Just now, first time reading about this Knox bit. I just this morning purchased from Best Buy a Galaxy Tab S 8.4" tablet. Going to old habits, I immediately look to a rooting method, and what some of the more popular ROMs are. But just curious on feedback, should I be worried about this Knox bit? If I ever have to return to stuck for a warranty claim, are they immediately able to tell that bit has been flipped? Does flipping the bit really lead to potential overheating and other issues?
Thoughts?
Well.. Someone claimed that they got warrenty repaired even if knox was tripped. And it was a power button defect. And someone else said that they still had to pay since they tripped knox.
So its a 50/50 chance that samsung will repair your tab s if knox is tripped. I too was worried. Rooted and tripped knox and had no hardbricks so far. Twrp and odin saves me from softbricks but odin can fail sometimes.
To answer your question: knox being tripped doesnt do anything it just trips an efuse and say that knox is tripped. It doesnt overheat or nothing. If you return it for warrenty claim they can tell if it was tripped. Some may not check some do. Hope this helps!
That does help, thank you!!!
I have two more questions:
1) If I have a hardware failure I can't fix myself, can I still pay to have it fixed by an authorized Samsung person? I understand it just wouldn't be covered under warranty.
2) It's not clear to me if it's tripped on whatever rooting changes (guessing so), or if it's when ROMs are loaded. Assuming it's rooting (which must typically bring new kernel?), does anything thing there's a chance that if we hold out that someone will find a rooting method that won't trip it. I stumbled across the Galaxy Tab Pro section and I see they claim to have a rooting method that doesn't trip the bit. So wondering if I suffer without root for a while if we might see such a thin here? Mind you, I know no one is a fortune teller.
crackface said:
That does help, thank you!!!
I have two more questions:
1) If I have a hardware failure I can't fix myself, can I still pay to have it fixed by an authorized Samsung person? I understand it just wouldn't be covered under warranty.
2) It's not clear to me if it's tripped on whatever rooting changes (guessing so), or if it's when ROMs are loaded. Assuming it's rooting (which must typically bring new kernel?), does anything thing there's a chance that if we hold out that someone will find a rooting method that won't trip it. I stumbled across the Galaxy Tab Pro section and I see they claim to have a rooting method that doesn't trip the bit. So wondering if I suffer without root for a while if we might see such a thin here? Mind you, I know no one is a fortune teller.
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1. If they check you tripped knox and denied your warranty claim, I belive they will ask you the option to pay for the fix. Though I cant be sure as thats what I heard but im pretty sure.
2. Well cfautoroot flashes root and reverts your recovery back to stock. Um.. With the towelroot method of not tripping knox... For the tab pro you downgrade your kernel/build. Though no one has tried downgrading their kernel to like a build before towelroot was patched for the tab s.. I dont know if it will work for the tab s.
I dont even know if we will see a universal root like towelroot. Geohotz is working for google and isnt updating towelroot for newer devices. But there is a huge bounty for rooting the note4 or something like that. But the chances of it working for other devices are pretty low. Hope this helps!
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Hi all,
I'm heading over from the Evo4g finally. After tearing through these forums, I wanted to confirm what I've been reading. My plan is to throw TWRP on the phone and try out a couple of roms.
From what I have read, installing TWRP will trip the KNOX flag no matter what method is used. Correct?
I bought this device off craigslist and it is fully paid off. I don't have any sort of warranty on it. It doesn't seem like tripping this flag matters in any way to me whatsoever. Is there anything I cannot do with the phone or with t-mobile service after tripping it, or is it purely a warranty thing?
Thanks
If the phone isn't warrantied you can do what you want.
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Correct, flashing a custom recovery will trip the flag no matter what. The only thing that won't work afterwards is the Knox security container, which most people want gone anyways.
That's what I was hoping. Thanks.
I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
t3tr1s_ said:
I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
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Knox isn't really for T-mobile to detect root/custom firmware but for Samsung warranty. A fair amount of people on here have stated that they still sent their phones in to Sammy for warranty and they still got their phones fixed. T-mobile really only look for cracked screens, water damage and that the phone powers on and boots up. Not to say you'll never have an issue but i would say it's not really that big of a deal to trip the Knox counter. Especially if you bought the insurance like Asurion. I don't think they even care if your rooted and ROM'd
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
t3tr1s_ said:
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
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On the old 4.3 firmware yes you can root with Root De La Vega and not trip the Knox counter but once you put ANY custom recovery it will trip the counter. Now on the OTA 4.4.2 that was released on Wednesday, the only 2 current ways to root (TWRP or Philz CWM) will trip the Knox counter no matter what. So until something comes out like an updated ROOT De La Vega, there's no way to even root without tripping the Knox counter.
Also from what i read, RDLV isn't being developed anymore so unless they decide to do something with it for the all the 4.4.2 releases hitting phones these days there may not be anything for a bit to root without tripping knox.
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Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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That is true for 4.3 but so far you can't on 4.4 from everything I have seen. Do you now of a way to not trip knox on 4.4?
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Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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Did I miss something? Is there a way to Root 4.4.2 without tripping Knox? I don't care I've tripped Knox the first night i had my N3 but I didn't think there was a way. Kningo and RDLV i thought borked the phones and caused bootloops.
My t-mobile store says that if you root your phone then it voids your warranty, so obviously they won't allow me to upgrade... So I know they check for it.. How is it you guys have stores where they don't seem to care?
I need to root my tablet so I can use a few apps I like. I had it on my Samsung note 10.1 2012 and used triangle away. Not really looking for a rom, at this point I like stock ROM.
Any help please?
This has been answered a 1000 x before. Knox flag will trip and no known way to reset.
I have already rooted but have since noticed an issue with my display and I am past the return date for Best Buy. Because I have tripped Knox, I will not be able to send it in to Samsung?
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I have already rooted but have since noticed an issue with my display and I am past the return date for Best Buy. Because I have tripped Knox, I will not be able to send it in to Samsung?
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You can always send it back for repair. Whether the repair cost is covered by warranty will depend on your local laws and or willingness of the service center. Just return it in official status and "play dumb"
Triangle away won't work?
Nope... it wont work on knox... will only work on normal counter.
edan1979 said:
Nope... it wont work on knox... will only work on normal counter.
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I didn't bother answering only to repeat myself again. .....
I too would love to root but don't want to trip Knox. Samsung are real bastard for introducing it. Too bad the only capable hacker Geohot sold out and works for Google patching exploits now...
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What about this towel root thing? It says it roots without tripping Knox, is this true?
please read... towel root no longer working on new release since geohot = the guy who make it are now working with google to patch those exploit.
So I know how to root and unroot and how to use triangle free but I heared about knox software and they say it can be tripped
So I unroot &uninstall root software, use triangle and put stock firmware from sam firmware website back on.
Is my warranty back on at this point or they can check bootloader and knox to find out that I have rooted before.
If its not back tell me what else to do.
Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5. SM-T800
Tripping knox isn't reversibel.
But usually that doesn't matter in warranty cases.
If you have a defective device and have knox tripped, you should be fine as it wasnt your fault. Someone( xda user formeriphoney) had a faulty power button, then later and faulty chip or something cuasing it not to turn on. He get it all replaced by samsung and he was even running cm11 when he sent it to him.
Basically you cant untrip knox. And its a 50/50 chance of samsung servicing it because of an defective part.
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If you have a defective device and have knox tripped, you should be fine as it wasnt your fault. Someone( xda user formeriphoney) had a faulty power button, then later and faulty chip or something cuasing it not to turn on. He get it all replaced by samsung and he was even running cm11 when he sent it to him.
Basically you cant untrip knox. And its a 50/50 chance of samsung servicing it because of an defective part.
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So whats the point of unrooting and using triangle free if they can figure out that you rooted your device from checking knox records?
Anyway on my new tablet I cant even find knox maybe it's not protected by knox???. (Galaxy s4 phone has it and its visible)
Thanks for helping
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So whats the point of unrooting and using triangle free if they can figure out that you rooted your device from checking knox records?
Anyway on my new tablet I cant even find knox maybe it's not protected by knox???. (Galaxy s4 phone has it and its visible)
Thanks for helping
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Triangle free wont work. Newer devices have a knox that cant be untriped.
To see knox status, go into download mode and it should say "knox 0x0" and if you triped it it should say "knox 0x1"
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So I know how to root and unroot and how to use triangle free but I heared about knox software and they say it can be tripped
So I unroot &uninstall root software, use triangle and put stock firmware from sam firmware website back on.
Is my warranty back on at this point or they can check bootloader and knox to find out that I have rooted before.
If its not back tell me what else to do.
Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5. SM-T800
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Would never think about rooting if google hadn't messed with kitkat's sd card permission. Hate google
New to all this but I was worried to root my new device because I keep hearing about this knox. I got a feeling my device will need warranty one day. The power button is just so flimsy I can't see it not breaking, getting stuck. I wouldn't think it would matter if I messed with the software and a button got stuck but you never know. I would hate to give them an excuse not to fix it if something goes wrong.
On a side note are the buttons a easy fix?
ddbigs said:
New to all this but I was worried to root my new device because I keep hearing about this knox. I got a feeling my device will need warranty one day. The power button is just so flimsy I can't see it not breaking, getting stuck. I wouldn't think it would matter if I messed with the software and a button got stuck but you never know. I would hate to give them an excuse not to fix it if something goes wrong.
On a side note are the buttons a easy fix?
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In Europe tripping knox won't do anything to your warranty.
However, opening the device just to fix the buttons might harm your warranty, so I wouldn't do that myself.
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In Europe tripping knox won't do anything to your warranty.
However, opening the device just to fix the buttons might harm your warranty, so I wouldn't do that myself.
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I think I really want to root this device. I wonder how they treat warranty claims in Canada, I'm in Toronto.
I was asking on how easy it is to fix smaller things on the device so I can make a decision on if I should root. If its fairly easy maybe I'll take my chances and if anything happens I can try to fix it myself. We also have a lot of small repair places around here that can be fairly cheap, as long as nothing big happens.
Is there anyway to root the Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 4(SM-N910P) with out Tripping KNOX? I have tried towel root and it is not supported. Any help would be appreciated
Chain fire auto root then install twrp through the ROM I think. I just flashed through Odin though
I believe there is no way not to trip the knox if you root. It is a permanent change. However sprint will honor the warranty as long as you flash back to stock.
Damn, one can only hope. And when I had my s4 and I tripped knox. I had a SIM card issue, and they said sense it was tripped there is nothing I can do.. sorry about your luck
I had my s4 and it lost all audio in the headphone port somehow and I was running slimrom at the time. He wanted to see my phone and he asked if he could install root checker, of course I said yes. But said one sec let me check something, went into the settings and disabled root that way. He did his thing and then fixed my phone. When I turned in my phone, I am on the easy pay thing, it was still rooted and Knox was tripped. After I had my new phone and was ready to walk out. I asked him about it. He said he didn't care cause it gets shipped out and they wipe the phones and reinstall the factory image.
I guess it just depends on the tech that's helping you.
My screen had a bit of dust under the screen, I was rooted Knox tripped and had the screen replaced no questions asked. Like stated above just depends on the tech.
Shouldn't have posted this here and needs to be moved.
Does the sprint exchange work if you didn't buy it at store ..? Bought mine at bestbuy