[Q] Can you unroot and keep custom ROM? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I would like to use a custom ROM on my HTC One M8 (e.g. ARHD) but I would like to unroot it after installing the custom ROM so that I can use my banking apps.
Is this possible?
Thanks.

Should work, try it and see (backup ROM first obviously)

I believe CyanogenMod's CM11 and CM12 builds both have switches in their developer options to enable/disable root access. I'm not sure how your apps are detecting root, but that might work for you.

It is not possible.
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Siddharth121 said:
It is not possible.
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I hope you have a great story why it is impossible ? To me it is very possible......and very simple actually.

Mr Hofs said:
I hope you have a great story why it is impossible ? To me it is very possible......and very simple actually.
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Agreed:thumbup:
You don't need root to install a custom ROM or even run a custom ROM on your device. Obviously you won't be able to use any apps that require root, but the ROM in and of itself will still function.

Mr Hofs said:
I hope you have a great story why it is impossible ? To me it is very possible......and very simple actually.
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Magnum_Enforcer said:
Agreed:thumbup:
You don't need root to install a custom ROM or even run a custom ROM on your device. Obviously you won't be able to use any apps that require root, but the ROM in and of itself will still function.
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And this is something I never knew.
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mjichi said:
Hi,
I would like to use a custom ROM on my HTC One M8 (e.g. ARHD) but I would like to unroot it after installing the custom ROM so that I can use my banking apps.
Is this possible?
Thanks.
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I've been rooted and running custom ROMs for a few years, and I've never had any problems with using banking apps.

Some apps detect root, others don't care. I bank with NatWest and it's fine but apparently Barclays won't work. Same with other apps like Sky Go (live TV), even if you 'hide' root access it finds it in the kernel and won't run

Barclay's app requires the phone to be unrooted and I can't seem to live without it...
Is there instructions on how to install a ROM without root? All instructions online say root needs to be done.
Thanks!

I'm also wondering about this. I need to install a corporate app that needs a minimum of android 4 on my Samsung i9000. The last stock rom for i9000 was 2.3.6 so I need a custom rom. At he same time it also checks if the phone is rooted each time the app runs.
I've read something about deleting some files:
/system/bin/busybox,
/system/xbin/busybox,
/system/bin/su,
/system/xbin/su,
/system/app/superuser
Has anyone tested this?
Now in this forum thread I am reading about apps being able to detect root in the kernel of the phone. Does anyone out there have a way to unroot a custom rom??

remichi said:
I'm also wondering about this. I need to install a corporate app that needs a minimum of android 4 on my Samsung i9000. The last stock rom for i9000 was 2.3.6 so I need a custom rom. At he same time it also checks if the phone is rooted each time the app runs.
I've read something about deleting some files:
/system/bin/busybox,
/system/xbin/busybox,
/system/bin/su,
/system/xbin/su,
/system/app/superuser
Has anyone tested this?
Now in this forum thread I am reading about apps being able to detect root in the kernel of the phone. Does anyone out there have a way to unroot a custom rom??
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This forum section is specific to the HTC M8, so any help you get from the users here maybe of limited help. Advice may not work on your device, or even harm it.
Did you try to hide root (various apps to do this)? Although that may be circumventing the security reason why your workplace is checking for root in the first place.

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queries

Hello guys .. i have samsung galaxy nexus . Stock handset. Never been rooted
I want to root my nexus for first time so i have some confusions in my mind which i want to clarify so that rooting goes smooth
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Question : rooting erased all the prvious data and apps. I have heard there are some apps which bakup the game and software as well as the other mobile content. Please suggest Some good backup app
Question: i have 4.1.1 currently on device. Does it mean after root only 4.1.1 roms will work on my handset
Welcome to the Nexus club
Here are the answers to your question;
Data Wipe:
Rooting erases all the previous data and apps? NO. The process of rooting only provides you with root access. (But dont be so happy yet )
As I see, you have a stock Nexus. So before Rooting, you have to do a process called Unlocking. And Unlocking wipes EVERYTHING.
Once rooted and unlocked, when you flash switch ROM's you have to do a clean flash. This removes Apps. But preserves app data and sdcard contents.
Backup:
For backup of data, I'd recommend go for individual apps. The below are my personal favorites for backups:
For app backup, use ES File explorer (It only backs up free app, and no data backup)
For SMS and log backup, use SMS Backup & Restore and Call Logs Backup & Restore by Ritesh Sahu
Contacts and calendar and mails will anyways be synced with google account.
Do all the backups and copy these contents to your PC and then proceed with the Unlocking and Rooting.
Once Rooted, you can use Titanium Backup or ROM Toolbox for data and app backup.
Android Version
i have 4.1.1 currently on device. Does it mean after root only 4.1.1 roms will work on my handset. NO
When I bought my GNex, i was on 4.1.1 too. Currently I am on 4,2.2 ROM's
Hope this helps.
All the best.
Regards,
Neeraj
OP its spelled curious. English is crazy like that
Bloods thicker than water
namtombout said:
OP its spelled curious. English is crazy like that
Bloods thicker than water
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/queries
Was a play on words like don't start acting like queeries in here
Bloods thicker than water
Thanks for the reply.
I have recently updated to 4.1.1 OTA and notices the battery of my mobile phone is draining quite quickly.
I am thinking to root the device and update it to 4.2.2 (i think its latest available).
Is it possible ? Where to find software to update ?
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arslan_sweeto1 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I have recently updated to 4.1.1 OTA and notices the battery of my mobile phone is draining quite quickly.
I am thinking to root the device and update it to 4.2.2 (i think its latest available).
Is it possible ? Where to find software to update ?
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it is very much possible. u r on maguro/toro/toroplus?
How to chek that if im on moguro or anything else.
arslan_sweeto1 said:
How to chek that if im on moguro or anything else.
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What county are you in?
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It is maguro device
arslan_sweeto1 said:
It is maguro device
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here's the link of the stock 4.2.2 ROM for maguro
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#takjujdq39
Once i have downloaded the rom
I have to unlock bootloader, root the device and then flash 4.2.2 on the device. Is it right ?
And when i will flash custom roms on device it will replace the stock 4.2.2 ?
far streona
arslan_sweeto1 said:
Once i have downloaded the rom
I have to unlock bootloader, root the device and then flash 4.2.2 on the device. Is it right ?
And when i will flash custom roms on device it will replace the stock 4.2.2 ?
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yes & yes...
(& u don't have to root your device to flash this ROM)
please click on THANKS, if I have helped you...
I dnt have to root my device to update it to 4.2.2 ?
How to do that? Can u refer me some tutorial for that.
The only way i knew was to root the device and then update it.
arslan_sweeto1 said:
I dnt have to root my device to update it to 4.2.2 ?
How to do that? Can u refer me some tutorial for that.
The only way i knew was to root the device and then update it.
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follow this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20494965&postcount=1
if you have any question/confusion, feel free to ask :good:
please click on THANKS, if I have helped you...
if i flash with any custom rom, will it overwrite the 4.1.1 and is there possibility that it will solve my battery drqain problem ?
arslan_sweeto1 said:
if i flash with any custom rom, will it overwrite the 4.1.1 and is there possibility that it will solve my battery drqain problem ?
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yes, it will overwrite.
the battery life is more related to Kernel than ROM; so to get good battery life it would be better to flash a good kernel...
I have seen different tutorials for updating galaxy nexus to 4.2.2. It says something like this
"In order to do the update your device needs to be running build JOP40D"
But when i saw my settings in the mobile, my built number appears to be
JRO03C.I9250JPLH2
Now whats the point here .. ?
how to update the device in this situation
fastboot flash system nameofsystemimage.img
fastboot flash boot nameofbootimage.img
quite simple actually
the question here is that the build number of my device donot agree as given according to pre requistes of the process as per tutorials ..

Need a new ROM

I will be needing to use Barclays app tomorrow for a number of different meetings tomorrow but as I have root access on my phone it currently doesnt work.
Can anyone recommend me a ROM to flash that doesnt have root and will therefor allow me to use the barclays app?
Thanks in advance...
xploitUK said:
I will be needing to use Barclays app tomorrow for a number of different meetings tomorrow but as I have root access on my phone it currently doesnt work.
Can anyone recommend me a ROM to flash that doesnt have root and will therefor allow me to use the barclays app?
Thanks in advance...
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Could go back to stock your stock rom
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OK will have to look and check which tomorrow I need - any easy way to do this?
xploitUK said:
OK will have to look and check which tomorrow I need - any easy way to do this?
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Sure have a read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 to see if your stock rom is listed & don't forget to hit the :thumbup: for @Mr Hofs thread
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md5 mismatch on hasoon2000's M8 toolkit
edit nvm
or, you could try this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-rootcloak-completely-hide-root-t2574647
@wase4711 I don't know of any that work for Barclays app, because it uses native code to check.
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or, you could try this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-rootcloak-completely-hide-root-t2574647
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BenPope said:
@wase4711 I don't know of any that work for Barclays app, because it uses native code to check.
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Thanks, have already tried that, as @BenPope pointed out, not working at the moment though
Managed to get Barclay's app working - used twrp recovery file manager to delete the su files and apk

[Q] CM11 WITHOUT root

Morning all!
Possibly a silly question but I run 100% stock because of one app that will not work when rooted - Sky Go (a UK video streaming app). There is nothing that has got it to work when rooted so I've not bothered. I don't even need root access these days. BUT I'd like to give CM11 a go and I was wondering if you can turn off the root access in the ROM and then use a stock kernel and it would still boot/run?
If not, not to worry but seeing as CM11S does't have root it'd be nice to see the same available for other phones and not just the OnePlus One
I guess you could run the super su zip in recovery and then full unroot it through the app. Not sure if you'll run into any issues in cm without root, never tried it before
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otariq said:
I guess you could run the super su zip in recovery and then full unroot it through the app. Not sure if you'll run into any issues in cm without root, never tried it before
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Kinda what I was thinking, it's the kernel I'm more worried about as that needs to be a secure kernel otherwise the app won't work
Might just have to give it a try...
EddyOS said:
Kinda what I was thinking, it's the kernel I'm more worried about as that needs to be a secure kernel otherwise the app won't work
Might just have to give it a try...
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I take it root cloak doesn't work?
grentuu said:
I take it root cloak doesn't work?
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No, otherwise I would've used it
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
App: Sky Go - BSkyB - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bskyb.skygo
Method: Most likely detects root via native library (built with Android NDK). Unsure of exact method, but the Java portion of the app contains "VGDRM_STATUS_DEVICE_IS_ROOTED = -41942891", and based on the library name, it's a safe bet.
Relevant Files: libvgc.so
I think Sky Go looks for more than root doesn't it? I think it looks at kernel and software version also, so if you are running anything "custom" it instantly thinks you are rooted.
I just set up a separate rom on my Nexus 7 (Using multirom) for this exact reason.
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[Q] Upadating Question

Hello XDA Developers! How are you doing?
I just got a Notification that, an update is available for my N7 2013. I guess it is the 4.4.3 one.
So, I rooted it with the Nexus Toolkit when I got the Tablet and have since then gotten around playing with Xposed (GravityBox[KK], Youtube AdAway, Instagram Downloader and AppOpsXposed).
My Questions now are the following:
Should I just OTA Update or should I take my Nexus Toolkit and use that?
Do I have to uninstall all the Xposed stuff? (everything on the latest stable version offered to me)
Is it necessary to Root again or is the Kernel still rooted afterwards?
Any resets necessary? Just a cache one?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Best Regards
MstrBubbles
MstrBubbles said:
Hello XDA Developers! How are you doing?
I just got a Notification that, an update is available for my N7 2013. I guess it is the 4.4.3 one.
So, I rooted it with the Nexus Toolkit when I got the Tablet and have since then gotten around playing with Xposed (GravityBox[KK], Youtube AdAway, Instagram Downloader and AppOpsXposed).
My Questions now are the following:
Should I just OTA Update or should I take my Nexus Toolkit and use that?
Do I have to uninstall all the Xposed stuff? (everything on the latest stable version offered to me)
Is it necessary to Root again or is the Kernel still rooted afterwards?
Any resets necessary? Just a cache one?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Best Regards
MstrBubbles
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Give this thread a read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523217. It's simple to understand and super informative when it comes to updating OTAs. I know it's in the Nexus 5 forums, but the same principals apply.
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charesa39 said:
Give this thread a read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523217. It's simple to understand and super informative when it comes to updating OTAs. I know it's in the Nexus 5 forums, but the same principals apply.
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Thanks allot! Read through but still got some questions:
If I want to OTA I have to go completely Stock I understand this now but, if I use the Nexus Toolkit, do I still need to Uninstall everything Xposed related and go back to stock first? Or just uninstall everything Xposed and continue with the Toolkits FW Flashing and afterwards re-rooting?
OR just use the Toolkit and everything is good to go?
Thanks again!
MstrBubbles said:
Thanks allot! Read through but still got some questions:
If I want to OTA I have to go completely Stock I understand this now but, if I use the Nexus Toolkit, do I still need to Uninstall everything Xposed related and go back to stock first? Or just uninstall everything Xposed and continue with the Toolkits FW Flashing and afterwards re-rooting?
OR just use the Toolkit and everything is good to go?
Thanks again!
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Not exactly sure how the toolkit works to update. I don't use them since I'm not a fan of toolkits. If it just boots you into custom recovery and flashes the OTA, then you need to be stock (with Xposed Framework uninstalled). If it boots you into the bootloader and fastboot flashes the individual image files, you don't need to uninstall, but you will need to reinstall/activate the framework after booting into 4.4.3. You'll also need to re-root, unless the toolkit does that for you too after updating.
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charesa39 said:
Not exactly sure how the toolkit works to update. I don't use them since I'm not a fan of toolkits. If it just boots you into custom recovery and flashes the OTA, then you need to be stock (with Xposed Framework uninstalled). If it boots you into the bootloader and fastboot flashes the individual image files, you don't need to uninstall, but you will need to reinstall/activate the framework after booting into 4.4.3. You'll also need to re-root, unless the toolkit does that for you too after updating.
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Alright thanks again!
It has been quite some time since I last used it so I googled it again and found this http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-t...ndroid-4-4-3-without-losing-any-data-0155334/
In the end there is this
You should now be up to date, with root and custom recovery restored and all of your data intact. If you use Xposed, you'll have to install the framework again for your modules to become active.
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So I guess I am okay with it!
Thank you very much for your help!

Using and android pay while being rooted?

I would like to know if once you fully root your phone and go S-Off can you still use Android pay?
I haven't rooted yet but plan on doing so but just want to be fully aware of what I would lose by rooting. Also outside of Android pay is there anything else you would lose or won't work correctly after root.
Oh and sorry if this has been said before, I at least didn't see quickly anything posted about this...
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Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
nobnut said:
Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
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Prefect, will try that method. Do you know what the difference is with that method compared to others?
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nobnut said:
Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
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Do you have a link for this method? Maybe I'm blind or just overlooked it but couldn't find using my xda app on my phone.
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madskills843 said:
Do you have a link for this method? Maybe I'm blind or just overlooked it but couldn't find using my xda app on my phone.
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Indeed. Install TWRP and root following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
anees167 said:
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
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its working still. flash the super user in the guide. don't modifiy anything in system and should be fine to use. but just being s-off and unlocked 100% wont effect AP at all, its the act of modifying the system is what breaks it.
anees167 said:
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
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You're mistaken.
Hi, I've unfortunately not followed what, for me, would have been the most important bit of this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
Namely the line that would have enabled me to flash SuperSU and maintain encryption rather than blundering in and flashing the latest SuperSU regardless...doh!
The most important thing for me is to be able to use Android pay which obviously now I can't.
Can I undo my stupidity?......or not?

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