Morning all!
Possibly a silly question but I run 100% stock because of one app that will not work when rooted - Sky Go (a UK video streaming app). There is nothing that has got it to work when rooted so I've not bothered. I don't even need root access these days. BUT I'd like to give CM11 a go and I was wondering if you can turn off the root access in the ROM and then use a stock kernel and it would still boot/run?
If not, not to worry but seeing as CM11S does't have root it'd be nice to see the same available for other phones and not just the OnePlus One
I guess you could run the super su zip in recovery and then full unroot it through the app. Not sure if you'll run into any issues in cm without root, never tried it before
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otariq said:
I guess you could run the super su zip in recovery and then full unroot it through the app. Not sure if you'll run into any issues in cm without root, never tried it before
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Kinda what I was thinking, it's the kernel I'm more worried about as that needs to be a secure kernel otherwise the app won't work
Might just have to give it a try...
EddyOS said:
Kinda what I was thinking, it's the kernel I'm more worried about as that needs to be a secure kernel otherwise the app won't work
Might just have to give it a try...
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I take it root cloak doesn't work?
grentuu said:
I take it root cloak doesn't work?
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No, otherwise I would've used it
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
App: Sky Go - BSkyB - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bskyb.skygo
Method: Most likely detects root via native library (built with Android NDK). Unsure of exact method, but the Java portion of the app contains "VGDRM_STATUS_DEVICE_IS_ROOTED = -41942891", and based on the library name, it's a safe bet.
Relevant Files: libvgc.so
I think Sky Go looks for more than root doesn't it? I think it looks at kernel and software version also, so if you are running anything "custom" it instantly thinks you are rooted.
I just set up a separate rom on my Nexus 7 (Using multirom) for this exact reason.
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This is like my 10th android phone however with trying to root this i noticed some techniques have a built in image file or whatever that won't let you install roms? I want to be able to install roms, is there a good one click root option for me? Also what would be the best kernel?
why do you actually have 60 posts? Were the other 59 in the development section as well?
Hhhmmm.......
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Everything you need is right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic&useskin=vector
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why do you actually have 60 posts? Were the other 59 in the development section as well?
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Was that a douchebag comment orrrrr are you actually asking? I don't use xda as much as i did droidxforums, androidforums, androidcentral, and droidforums...
lets not bicker about posts, and just get along.. simple question, quick answer......
1. Unrevoked
2. No one can tell you what will be a good kernel for your phone
3. Wrong section
They're all good kernels. Some just work better with some phones. It really depends on the phone.
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Nickdroid86 said:
This is like my 10th android phone however with trying to root this i noticed some techniques have a built in image file or whatever that won't let you install roms? I want to be able to install roms, is there a good one click root option for me? Also what would be the best kernel?
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I found its trial and error with different roms also like three previous poster stated depends on phone. Kernels are easy to flash. Just give em a couple days to settle in. its like getting a new puppy. At first it may not look like its going to work out. After a couple days and conditioning things are better lol. Good luck and enjoy your evo! I do!
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Q&A Section I believe would be a good place to start, dont you?
I use unrevoked getting failed but s now off without su..
then trying z4root and succes. I dont know how. I never see this method before. But it works for me..
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snxxxxx said:
I use unrevoked getting failed but s now off without su..
then trying z4root and succes. I dont know how. I never see this method before. But it works for me..
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Well you'll need to run unrevoked again because z4root only gives you temporary root, and goes away once the phone is rebooted, meaning you'll have to run it again.
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Well you'll need to run unrevoked again because z4root only gives you temporary root, and goes away once the phone is rebooted, meaning you'll have to run it again.
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No my phone is still rooted. Now i use warm rls5, flash kernel, theme,and other and it still rooted.. like before id said. I dont know how it happen. I know in forum or other website that z4root just for temporary root for evo. But now my evo about 1 month being rooted by it with many flashing.
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Awkward...well if it unroots for any reason, or something happens, that's the course of action you should take.
teh roxxorz said:
Awkward...well if it unroots for any reason, or something happens, that's the course of action you should take.
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you really made me afraid. I really do not know why this could occur. you think what do I do now? I use the latest version unrevoked before and always failed. at least I tried 4 times. and when I use z4root, my evo be like now. all working with normal functions. superuser always work properly.
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snxxxxx said:
you really made me afraid. I really do not know why this could occur. you think what do I do now? I use the latest version unrevoked before and always failed. at least I tried 4 times. and when I use z4root, my evo be like now. all working with normal functions. superuser always work properly.
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Not trying to scare you, just saying from what I heard, you lose root after rebooting after z4root, unless the unrevoked did work. But if its all good, no need to go messing with it.
Nickdroid86 said:
This is like my 10th android phone however with trying to root this i noticed some techniques have a built in image file or whatever that won't let you install roms? I want to be able to install roms, is there a good one click root option for me? Also what would be the best kernel?
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ok if you just got the phone you probably have the newest hboot. I got my phone in december and i had the newest one at the time. (i dont know if its been updated). i wasnt able to use unrevoked, but maybe that has changed since. If you cant use unrevoked, then there should be a sticky on one of the categories, ( i think android development) that will tell you how to root your phone using SDK, abd, and your PC ( thats the way i did it).
As for kernels, like everyone has been saying, it really depends on how the device accepts the kernel, but I am currently using netarchy toastmod 4.3.1 cfs no havs sbc more universal. I would try using the netarchy toastmods, they seem to treat me the best. Download a few and then give them a try. For hardware version 004, dont use BFS... they will cause reboots constantly...
Enjoy your new phone and welcome to the family.
here is the kernels page i use...
http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/
Try this page for rooting...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-evo-4g/123714-everything-evo-rooting-nand-flashing-roms-wipe.html
Nickdroid86 said:
This is like my 10th android phone however with trying to root this i noticed some techniques have a built in image file or whatever that won't let you install roms? I want to be able to install roms, is there a good one click root option for me? Also what would be the best kernel?
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I believe this is what you're looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
Just plug your phone into your PC and launch the program. The program does all the work until your phone is rooted and nand unlocked. After it's rooted, you can install custom kernel, ROM's, radio's, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsoVzMadiQE
Stock GB, S-OFF, 4EXT Recovery, SU installed and I still don't have root access. No matter which app with root access I try (AdFree for example) SU won't ask me for root and app failed to gain it. How to fix this?
why don't you just flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200261&highlight=stock+gb
Because I don't need or want to.
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Because I don't need or want to.
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but you wanted to root the stock GB ROM.. the link I sent practically solves your problem
There is an issue with SU lately that is if you just updated SU. Try to flash an old SU zip.
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Open the super user application and try to update it
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stankyou said:
There is an issue with SU lately that is if you just updated SU. Try to flash an old SU zip.
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I reflashed older one, it's working now. But how can I update it through market? It shows I have latest version.
You don't really need to be updating it via the market. All it is is a gateway for your applications to root access. It's a list of what is and is not allowed.
It's a bouncer on the door of a night club.
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But I want latest version. Not having it is making me very nervous.
See a therapist.
Seriously though, I had no issues updating su with the market version. See the permissions of su binary after the process is complete. You might want to chmod 755 it..
Tell me how it goes.
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
bortak said:
but you wanted to root the stock GB ROM.. the link I sent practically solves your problem
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Hmm..to precise, it doesn't root the stock ROM, but replaces it with a rooted ROM made by teppic. There may be other additions.. It's just as easy to root a ruu if you're s off.
Oh btw, Terepin, you have to modify init.rc to make an unprotected boot..
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Terepin said:
But I want latest version. Not having it is making me very nervous.
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haha. Nice to see you exhibit some of the human qualities of the human android user
"I want update, I know not why but its newer, gimme gimme gimme"
hahaha
Droidzone said:
Hmm..to precise, it doesn't root the stock ROM, but replaces it with a rooted ROM made by teppic. There may be other additions.. It's just as easy to root a ruu if you're s off.
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Yeah fair enough, and well yeah that's what I meant.. it'd be pretty much the same end result though right (since it's stock with optional additions)
In case you didn't see it, towelroot v3 was just released. It still does not support our device, but it does add the ability to temp root a device. Go to towelroot.com and click on the "fix your phone yourself" link.
Follow the instructions and use the string for temp root. Worked great for me. That being said, firewater s-off is now patched, and sunshine says it is incompatible with our rom/kernel. Hopefully jcase can update sunshine for us so we can obtain s-off.
It's a start!
Nvm got it.
Kernel contains HTC anti-firewater patch
Is anyone else getting "Kernel contains HTC anti-firewater patch!"?
Did they say firewater won't be updated?
beoxify said:
Did they say firewater won't be updated?
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Correct, no more updates to firewater. We will have to pay for sunshine once m7 is supported
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So using temproot, is it possible to install su and SuperUser to obtain permanent root?
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russjr08 said:
So using temproot, is it possible to install su and SuperUser to obtain permanent root?
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No, system is still write protected regardless of root or not
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Worked like a charm. Thanks for the heads-up.
Jcase just announced temp towelroot support for sunshine. M7 still doesn't work, but it seems most of the pieces are falling in place.
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nsmal24 said:
Jcase just announced temp towelroot support for sunshine. M7 still doesn't work, but it seems most of the pieces are falling in place.
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I'll drop 25 bucks to gladly drop a rom on this phone. This is probably the longest I've gone without root in forever.
asacado said:
I'll drop 25 bucks to gladly drop a rom on this phone. This is probably the longest I've gone without root in forever.
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Me too. Always been able to root and rom immediately with every other device.
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I must be missing something because I can't get it to work. You just click the banner 3 times change the last 0 to a 1 and hit the button? It either says I have root and I use root checker and it says I don't, or it reboots which means towelroot failed
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I must be missing something because I can't get it to work. You just click the banner 3 times change the last 0 to a 1 and hit the button? It either says I have root and I use root checker and it says I don't, or it reboots which means towelroot failed
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That was happening for me as well. I tried running weaksause after towelroot said it worked and it did the trick, maybe try that.
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Nowak4G said:
That was happening for me as well. I tried running weaksause after towelroot said it worked and it did the trick, maybe try that.
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hmm i wonder why this is working for some people but not others
Nowak4G said:
That was happening for me as well. I tried running weaksause after towelroot said it worked and it did the trick, maybe try that.
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So what version of Sense are you using? 5.5 or 6.0?
so, for those people that are trying towelroot on M7 with sense 6 did you make sure the modstring has:
Code:
Temp root, HTC, Motorola: "1337 0 1 0 4 1"
what is the point of temp root vs root?
d0m_ said:
what is the point of temp root vs root?
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Basically full root will survive a reboot, where as temp root is lost on reboot and the device must be temp rooted again. You can at least still have some sort of root access with temp root rather than have to stay 100% stock.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong or want to go into more detail.
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Basically full root will survive a reboot, where as temp root is lost on reboot and the device must be temp rooted again. You can at least still have some sort of root access with temp root rather than have to stay 100% stock.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong or want to go into more detail.
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With a locked bootloader and s-on, the system and boot positions are write protected also. This means you can read system files, but not edit them. Good for titanium backups
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so, for those people that are trying towelroot on M7 with sense 6 did you make sure the modstring has:
Code:
Temp root, HTC, Motorola: "1337 0 1 0 4 1"
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I just tried that and it does not work for sense 6. Sucks that I had to send my phone in for repair and I took the latest update. Now I can't root. Really miss the Rom section.
Hi,
I would like to use a custom ROM on my HTC One M8 (e.g. ARHD) but I would like to unroot it after installing the custom ROM so that I can use my banking apps.
Is this possible?
Thanks.
Should work, try it and see (backup ROM first obviously)
I believe CyanogenMod's CM11 and CM12 builds both have switches in their developer options to enable/disable root access. I'm not sure how your apps are detecting root, but that might work for you.
It is not possible.
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Siddharth121 said:
It is not possible.
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I hope you have a great story why it is impossible ? To me it is very possible......and very simple actually.
Mr Hofs said:
I hope you have a great story why it is impossible ? To me it is very possible......and very simple actually.
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Agreed:thumbup:
You don't need root to install a custom ROM or even run a custom ROM on your device. Obviously you won't be able to use any apps that require root, but the ROM in and of itself will still function.
Mr Hofs said:
I hope you have a great story why it is impossible ? To me it is very possible......and very simple actually.
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Magnum_Enforcer said:
Agreed:thumbup:
You don't need root to install a custom ROM or even run a custom ROM on your device. Obviously you won't be able to use any apps that require root, but the ROM in and of itself will still function.
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And this is something I never knew.
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mjichi said:
Hi,
I would like to use a custom ROM on my HTC One M8 (e.g. ARHD) but I would like to unroot it after installing the custom ROM so that I can use my banking apps.
Is this possible?
Thanks.
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I've been rooted and running custom ROMs for a few years, and I've never had any problems with using banking apps.
Some apps detect root, others don't care. I bank with NatWest and it's fine but apparently Barclays won't work. Same with other apps like Sky Go (live TV), even if you 'hide' root access it finds it in the kernel and won't run
Barclay's app requires the phone to be unrooted and I can't seem to live without it...
Is there instructions on how to install a ROM without root? All instructions online say root needs to be done.
Thanks!
I'm also wondering about this. I need to install a corporate app that needs a minimum of android 4 on my Samsung i9000. The last stock rom for i9000 was 2.3.6 so I need a custom rom. At he same time it also checks if the phone is rooted each time the app runs.
I've read something about deleting some files:
/system/bin/busybox,
/system/xbin/busybox,
/system/bin/su,
/system/xbin/su,
/system/app/superuser
Has anyone tested this?
Now in this forum thread I am reading about apps being able to detect root in the kernel of the phone. Does anyone out there have a way to unroot a custom rom??
remichi said:
I'm also wondering about this. I need to install a corporate app that needs a minimum of android 4 on my Samsung i9000. The last stock rom for i9000 was 2.3.6 so I need a custom rom. At he same time it also checks if the phone is rooted each time the app runs.
I've read something about deleting some files:
/system/bin/busybox,
/system/xbin/busybox,
/system/bin/su,
/system/xbin/su,
/system/app/superuser
Has anyone tested this?
Now in this forum thread I am reading about apps being able to detect root in the kernel of the phone. Does anyone out there have a way to unroot a custom rom??
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This forum section is specific to the HTC M8, so any help you get from the users here maybe of limited help. Advice may not work on your device, or even harm it.
Did you try to hide root (various apps to do this)? Although that may be circumventing the security reason why your workplace is checking for root in the first place.
I would like to know if once you fully root your phone and go S-Off can you still use Android pay?
I haven't rooted yet but plan on doing so but just want to be fully aware of what I would lose by rooting. Also outside of Android pay is there anything else you would lose or won't work correctly after root.
Oh and sorry if this has been said before, I at least didn't see quickly anything posted about this...
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Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
nobnut said:
Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
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Prefect, will try that method. Do you know what the difference is with that method compared to others?
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nobnut said:
Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
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Do you have a link for this method? Maybe I'm blind or just overlooked it but couldn't find using my xda app on my phone.
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madskills843 said:
Do you have a link for this method? Maybe I'm blind or just overlooked it but couldn't find using my xda app on my phone.
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Indeed. Install TWRP and root following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
anees167 said:
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
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its working still. flash the super user in the guide. don't modifiy anything in system and should be fine to use. but just being s-off and unlocked 100% wont effect AP at all, its the act of modifying the system is what breaks it.
anees167 said:
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
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You're mistaken.
Hi, I've unfortunately not followed what, for me, would have been the most important bit of this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
Namely the line that would have enabled me to flash SuperSU and maintain encryption rather than blundering in and flashing the latest SuperSU regardless...doh!
The most important thing for me is to be able to use Android pay which obviously now I can't.
Can I undo my stupidity?......or not?