I would like to know if once you fully root your phone and go S-Off can you still use Android pay?
I haven't rooted yet but plan on doing so but just want to be fully aware of what I would lose by rooting. Also outside of Android pay is there anything else you would lose or won't work correctly after root.
Oh and sorry if this has been said before, I at least didn't see quickly anything posted about this...
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Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
nobnut said:
Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
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Prefect, will try that method. Do you know what the difference is with that method compared to others?
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nobnut said:
Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
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Do you have a link for this method? Maybe I'm blind or just overlooked it but couldn't find using my xda app on my phone.
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madskills843 said:
Do you have a link for this method? Maybe I'm blind or just overlooked it but couldn't find using my xda app on my phone.
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Indeed. Install TWRP and root following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
anees167 said:
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
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its working still. flash the super user in the guide. don't modifiy anything in system and should be fine to use. but just being s-off and unlocked 100% wont effect AP at all, its the act of modifying the system is what breaks it.
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I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
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You're mistaken.
Hi, I've unfortunately not followed what, for me, would have been the most important bit of this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
Namely the line that would have enabled me to flash SuperSU and maintain encryption rather than blundering in and flashing the latest SuperSU regardless...doh!
The most important thing for me is to be able to use Android pay which obviously now I can't.
Can I undo my stupidity?......or not?
Related
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
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If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
Custom recovery means you probably need to download the update file and apply it via the recovery instead of the automatic updater.
Changing or removing system files will almost definitely prevent updates being applied.
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Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
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Actually I was surprised also, but SuperSU does prevent the OTA from completing successfully.
Read the referenced link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
Then I booted into 15Q. I lost root and TWRP. Flashed over TWRP through fastboot and rooted.
No issues.
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player911 said:
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
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Are you rooted using SuperSU, what version, and can I examine the zip file.
Thanks guys, actually I haven't rooted this device yet. Because I am still reading on stuff here on xda how to do it the right way and the links you posted
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sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?
I've been rooted since day one and gotten ota updates fine.
I use twrp and just make sure to flash supersu each time and call it good. Not a single problem on my end.
Even still if you bork it just flash factory image. It's pretty simple to get out of a pinch. But rooting and ota should work fine as long as you keep stock image. Just reflash supersu each time and you're good to go.
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geocine said:
hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?
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If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
sfhub said:
If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
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I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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geocine said:
I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
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Yes.
geocine said:
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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Thanks, I am currently backing up using adb., a non 100% backup is better than no backup at all. I hate redoing things.
sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
geocine said:
While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
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Yes, very simple, just type
fastboot oem lock
I would advise against doing so unless you plan to return the unit though, as if you ever need to do stuff to your system (even factory restore) then you'd need to unlock again, which would factory reset again.
sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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Here is a post from sfhub
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geocine said:
Here is a post from sfhub
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BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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The 1.55 update doesn't appear to want to install properly for me from Google Play. Is this an issue of having the OTA fix installed?
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
The Holocron said:
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
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No, there is nothing to uninstall. It is very clean.
sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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Is there anything I should do if I already have your fix installed?
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Morning all!
Possibly a silly question but I run 100% stock because of one app that will not work when rooted - Sky Go (a UK video streaming app). There is nothing that has got it to work when rooted so I've not bothered. I don't even need root access these days. BUT I'd like to give CM11 a go and I was wondering if you can turn off the root access in the ROM and then use a stock kernel and it would still boot/run?
If not, not to worry but seeing as CM11S does't have root it'd be nice to see the same available for other phones and not just the OnePlus One
I guess you could run the super su zip in recovery and then full unroot it through the app. Not sure if you'll run into any issues in cm without root, never tried it before
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otariq said:
I guess you could run the super su zip in recovery and then full unroot it through the app. Not sure if you'll run into any issues in cm without root, never tried it before
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Kinda what I was thinking, it's the kernel I'm more worried about as that needs to be a secure kernel otherwise the app won't work
Might just have to give it a try...
EddyOS said:
Kinda what I was thinking, it's the kernel I'm more worried about as that needs to be a secure kernel otherwise the app won't work
Might just have to give it a try...
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I take it root cloak doesn't work?
grentuu said:
I take it root cloak doesn't work?
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No, otherwise I would've used it
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
App: Sky Go - BSkyB - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bskyb.skygo
Method: Most likely detects root via native library (built with Android NDK). Unsure of exact method, but the Java portion of the app contains "VGDRM_STATUS_DEVICE_IS_ROOTED = -41942891", and based on the library name, it's a safe bet.
Relevant Files: libvgc.so
I think Sky Go looks for more than root doesn't it? I think it looks at kernel and software version also, so if you are running anything "custom" it instantly thinks you are rooted.
I just set up a separate rom on my Nexus 7 (Using multirom) for this exact reason.
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Everyone was talking about wanting, or needing root or their bootloader unlocked, now that we have root, you can hear a mouse fart in our forum. Let's get some ROMS or kernels, and xposed mods going! Where's the excitement people!?!? Lol
Enzopreme said:
Everyone was talking about wanting, or needing root or their bootloader unlocked, now that we have root, you can hear a mouse fart in our forum. Let's get some ROMS or kernels, and xposed mods going! Where's the excitement people!?!? Lol
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Locked boot loader means no roms.
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nrage23 said:
Locked boot loader means no roms.
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That's not true. It means no kernels... There's things like safestrap that allow you to flash a ROM to a different partition, and select either stock, or (ROM name here) from initial boot-up.
The ROM is just the body of the car, (what we see), but to access the motor, (everything that makes what we see actually happen), that requires bootloader unlock ?.
Enzopreme said:
Everyone was talking about wanting, or needing root or their bootloader unlocked, now that we have root, you can hear a mouse fart in our forum. Let's get some ROMS or kernels, and xposed mods going! Where's the excitement people!?!? Lol
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We JUST got root. How about waiting a week for this stuff? Jeeze
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Enzopreme said:
That's not true. It means no kernels... There's things like safestrap that allow you to flash a ROM to a different partition, and select either stock, or (ROM name here) from initial boot-up.
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We have no safestrap (developer bailed), loki, or bump. So no custom roms yet. Some devices cannot flash anything without unlocked bootloader. We have only had root a couple of days things will come. I should have been more clear in my previous post, I forgot this is XDA where everyone knows everything already.
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Locked boot loader means no roms.
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if I root my stock ui and modify with gravitybox and other xposed tweaks, will it effect on ota update?
Enzopreme said:
Everyone was talking about wanting, or needing root or their bootloader unlocked, now that we have root, you can hear a mouse fart in our forum. Let's get some ROMS or kernels, and xposed mods going! Where's the excitement people!?!? Lol
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Root is all I need, I don't need fancy roms and such.
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sourav5780 said:
if I root my stock ui and modify with gravitybox and other xposed tweaks, will it effect on ota update?
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Without custom recovery we may not get Xposed, hence no gravity box, but we can hope they get a non-recovery version working on the G4.
If you are rooted and run Xposed you NEED to freeze the OTA update checker, otherwise prepare for a bricked device after an update.
now what if I unroot?
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geoff5093 said:
Without custom recovery we may not get Xposed, hence no gravity box, but we can hope they get a non-recovery version working on the G4.
If you are rooted and run Xposed you NEED to freeze the OTA update checker, otherwise prepare for a bricked device after an update.
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Why would we need a custom recovery for Xposed? I only rooted my G3, nothing else, and I'm using G3 TweaksBox just fine.
All I need on the G4 is a new, updated TweaksBox and I'm good to go. Between that and titanium backup I have my G3 running perfect.
TWRP Recovery has been released for carrier branded devices as of a few hours ago
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Why would we need a custom recovery for Xposed? I only rooted my G3, nothing else, and I'm using G3 TweaksBox just fine.
All I need on the G4 is a new, updated TweaksBox and I'm good to go. Between that and titanium backup I have my G3 running perfect.
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Currently Xposed for 5.1 requires you to flash it from a custom recovery. 5.0 was simply a file you installed.
hsomnus said:
TWRP Recovery has been released for carrier branded devices as of a few hours ago
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Only the 815/811 have recovery
If you consider this forum silent, I'd hate to see what you think is active.
Dennisg34 said:
Only the 815/811 have recovery
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Cool. Soon though I imagine.
Thanks
madmaverickmatt said:
Cool. Soon though I imagine.
Thanks
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We need a bootloader unlock or a workaround like bump on the G3, I haven't heard of any progress with this yet but I'd love to be proven wrong.
I think the main theme here is be patient. We could not have ANYONE working on anything for this phone. Root is awesome. Hopefully bootloader unlock is released soon.
I think the same patients. We just got root im sure they have been working toward a work around since the phone has been released. So eventually if its possible someone will find an exploit i just hope eventually they find something that works for all current versions.
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Hi all,
I will receive my new 10 tomorrow. Is there a guide so I can root it right away? Not sure but I assume it will be a wwe version (401?)
I should unlock it via htcdev and what's next?
Thanks!
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twistednl said:
I should unlock it via htcdev and what's next?
Thanks!
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As usual .. after unlock, install TWRP and install SuperSU.zip
You need to read and understand this first : http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/psa-htc-policy-unlocking-bootloader-t3365986
and here is the TWRP : http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/recovery-twrp-touch-recovery-t3358139
Thanks for the answer. Both links give me an error in the xda app. Know where to find them but just FYI.
So I need to replace the recovery without doubt. Hmm, not sure if I want that reading the things about ota and stock recovery. I'm actually waiting for mike1986 to create a custom rom for the 10 but up until now no news about that.
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Prety interested in this one too... Looked around and on some sites it said that you can do it using various apps... I would also like to keep it as stock as possible but rooted, at least at the beginning
Is there any one touch root solution
What versions of SuperSU are people trying and having success with?
Latest versions had issues on my M9 so had an older version working great!
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Is there any one touch root solution
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Nope, and it as much as says so a few posts above yours.
I unlocked my device via htcdev, flashed trwp latest version and sideloaded the last beta version of supersu (2.71). These steps did the trick although some apps that require root (fstrim for example) claim I need to root the device. Rootchecker on the other hand claim my device is rooted. Main reason for me to unlock was adaway to get an almost ad free device.
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Was your device encrypted? Thought all devices are and you loose all userdata when you install TWRP. or even when you Unlock via htcDev?
Haldi4803 said:
Was your device encrypted? Thought all devices are and you loose all userdata when you install TWRP. or even when you Unlock via htcDev?
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It will wipe when you unlock but unlike previous years, because it is encrypted it will forget its access when you s-off as well.
The update is now available in my region but since I unlocked and rooted, how do I apply this? I assume nothing will get lost? Is there anybody with the ota file so I can at least restore stock recovery?
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twistednl said:
The update is now available in my region but since I unlocked and rooted, how do I apply this? I assume nothing will get lost? Is there anybody with the ota file so I can at least restore stock recovery?
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Relock and flash factory recovery.IMG. did you save any of recovery.IMG??
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How could I backup stock recovery? Backing up the rest is done with twrp but stock recovery wasn't possible of course. What I understood was the stock recovery could be pulled from RUU and since I'm on the wwe 401 version I was not afraid I couldn't find that. Only did not expect an ota that quick
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Typical verizon removed the "Enable OEM unlock" option from the developer settings. Hopefully someone will figure out temproot quickly.
twistednl said:
The update is now available in my region but since I unlocked and rooted, how do I apply this? I assume nothing will get lost? Is there anybody with the ota file so I can at least restore stock recovery?
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in my opinion I would not even bother with the OTA now that your unlocked and rooted. you will start seeing custom stuff soon enough. I'm still waiting for any info on mine even being shipped out.
What is the correct root procedure to keep signal?
I've tried:
1 unlock bootloader via htcdev.
2 flash TWRP.
3 flash SuperSU
4 run SunShine
5 re-enable data encryption via settings > storage
It then reboots and I see HTC logo (thought it was encrypting without giving any indication, so I left it overnight) and it was stuck in this state. In the morning I force rebooted and was still unencrypted and without signal, so I attempted step 5 with same result...
krismach said:
What is the correct root procedure to keep signal?
I've tried:
1 unlock bootloader via htcdev.
2 flash TWRP.
3 flash SuperSU
4 run SunShine
5 re-enable data encryption via settings > storage
It then reboots and I see HTC logo (thought it was encrypting without giving any indication, so I left it overnight) and it was stuck in this state. In the morning I force rebooted and was still unencrypted and without signal, so I attempted step 5 with same result...
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Critical step omitted... Format data
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/psa-htc-10-s-off-s-lock-unlock-t3371264
jollywhitefoot said:
Critical step omitted... Format data
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/psa-htc-10-s-off-s-lock-unlock-t3371264
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I tried it, and I lose root, but gain signal...
krismach said:
I tried it, and I lose root, but gain signal...
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Well at least it boots!
jollywhitefoot said:
Well at least it boots!
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That's always good
I've attempted to root it again and now it works, it's rooted, with s-off, unlocked, and encrypted and with signal working.
Not sure why you lose root after format data, is that normal?
Hello,
I'am on rom stock, no custom recovery and bootloader locked.
If I root my OP3, will I still receive rom stock updates and will I still install this updates like before ?
Thanks.
No. if u root you wont get updates
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Uh okay. It's embarassing..
In this case how get update ?
doums_ said:
Uh okay. It's embarassing..
In this case how get update ?
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Via incremental updates, flash it through TWRP recovery
And it's the officials updates ?
Yep, download from the oneplus website and flash
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ptoner said:
Yep, download from the oneplus website and flash
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Ok thanks all !
Sorry to hijack the thread.
Can someone tell me whether you can still use Android pay after you root?
Thanks.
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As long as you don't install xposed I think you are OK.
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Thanks for that ptoner
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doums_ said:
Hello,
I'am on rom stock, no custom recovery and bootloader locked.
If I root my OP3, will I still receive rom stock updates and will I still install this updates like before ?
Thanks.
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You have to unlock the bootloader too. Unblocking the bootloader will wipe your device.
As a rule of thumb, I always unlock bootloader on day one of purchasing my devices. (mostly Nexus or OP so far). This way you avoid potentially losing data.
Or u can download systemless xposed which will allow to turn on and off to use Android pay
Bradl79 said:
Or u can download systemless xposed which will allow to turn on and off to use Android pay
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You'll still have to reboot each time to use it
2x4 said:
You'll still have to reboot each time to use it
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What is the problem with Android pay with rooted device ? (I have never used Android pay and I dont know this app)
doums_ said:
What is the problem with Android pay with rooted device ? (I have never used Android pay and I dont know this app)
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With rooted it can work in certain conditions.
With xposed it cannot if it is active
2x4 said:
With rooted it can work in certain conditions.
With xposed it cannot if it is active
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Ok, and wath is the best way for rooting my device, xposed or traditional way (unlock bootloader, install TWRP and flash root apk ?)
doums_ said:
Ok, and wath is the best way for rooting my device, xposed or traditional way (unlock bootloader, install TWRP and flash root apk ?)
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root (access) is obtained via apps like SuperSU
xposed has nothing to do with root access - it is an additional framework allowing for low level modifications (like amplify, etc)
unlocking bootloader is always the first step, from there you can flash supersu (which is NOT just an APK file).
there's a number of threads about it that can explain it better than i.
2x4 said:
root (access) is obtained via apps like SuperSU
xposed has nothing to do with root access - it is an additional framework allowing for low level modifications (like amplify, etc)
unlocking bootloader is always the first step, from there you can flash supersu (which is NOT just an APK file).
there's a number of threads about it that can explain it better than i.
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Ok thanks you. I see the threads in OP3 xda forum.
One more question : is the warrantly lost after rooting ?