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Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled?

Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
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If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.

geocine said:
Will I be able to apply/receive software updates when root enabled? I am worried that I won't be able to apply google updates once root enable, is this an issue? Is there a workaround?
Thanks!
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Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
Custom recovery means you probably need to download the update file and apply it via the recovery instead of the automatic updater.
Changing or removing system files will almost definitely prevent updates being applied.
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gbroon said:
Just rooting doesn't prevent updates. You just lose root and have to reapply after update.
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Actually I was surprised also, but SuperSU does prevent the OTA from completing successfully.
Read the referenced link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339

I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
Then I booted into 15Q. I lost root and TWRP. Flashed over TWRP through fastboot and rooted.
No issues.
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player911 said:
I JUST did this. I had TWRP and rooted. I has 15J. Booted my nandroid. Downloaded the 15Q update, restarted to install. TWRP caught the stock image and flashed it.
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Are you rooted using SuperSU, what version, and can I examine the zip file.

Thanks guys, actually I haven't rooted this device yet. Because I am still reading on stuff here on xda how to do it the right way and the links you posted
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sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?

I've been rooted since day one and gotten ota updates fine.
I use twrp and just make sure to flash supersu each time and call it good. Not a single problem on my end.
Even still if you bork it just flash factory image. It's pretty simple to get out of a pinch. But rooting and ota should work fine as long as you keep stock image. Just reflash supersu each time and you're good to go.
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geocine said:
hi sfhub, do I need to do
fastboot oem unlock
before doing
fastboot boot twrp.img ?
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If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.

sfhub said:
If you aren't already unlocked then, yes.
Most people will already be unlocked though if they are rooted.
fastboot oem unlock process will force a factory reset for security purposes so backup anything important.
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I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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geocine said:
I haven't rooted my device yet , I am on all stock. Does 'fastboot boot' just loads the twrp image and not flash it?
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Yes.
geocine said:
How will I be able to backup stuff, are there any other options aside from titanium backup that requires root .
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There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.

sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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Thanks, I am currently backing up using adb., a non 100% backup is better than no backup at all. I hate redoing things.

sfhub said:
Yes.
There are some backup apps that don't need root, but probably need to restore.
You can also try adb backup, but it may not backup 100% of your stuff.
I'm not the best person to ask on the backup as I always unlock before I do most of the software installs just so I can avoid losing customizations later on.
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While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.

geocine said:
While we are it, I just want to ask if it is also possible to bring back the bootloader to a locked state. thanks.
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Yes, very simple, just type
fastboot oem lock
I would advise against doing so unless you plan to return the unit though, as if you ever need to do stuff to your system (even factory restore) then you'd need to unlock again, which would factory reset again.

sfhub said:
If you install the simple fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44597339#post44597339
You can install future OTAs successfully and keep root.
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Here is a post from sfhub
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geocine said:
Here is a post from sfhub
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BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.

sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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The 1.55 update doesn't appear to want to install properly for me from Google Play. Is this an issue of having the OTA fix installed?
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?

The Holocron said:
Nevermind...i guess i needed to reboot...but, this does beg the question, is there anything related to the OTA fix that needs to be "uninstalled" in general?
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No, there is nothing to uninstall. It is very clean.

sfhub said:
BTW the author of SuperSU recently implemented the change I made so starting in v1.55 the separate fix is no longer necessary.
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Is there anything I should do if I already have your fix installed?
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[Q] Can't flash any rom. Stuck. M8 UK

Hi,
I am not new to rooting and flashing but I seem to have jammed.
I can flash custom recoveries(used both CWM and TWRP) no bother but I cannot flash rom.
I have tried pushing and side loading. TWRP just says failed.
CWM says cannot open update.zip from tmp (bad)
I am unlocked.
I am S-ON so I don't know a way around that atm without a ROM. I have tried reinstalling stock but failed.
HTC one M8 UK EE network.
Would love to fix this please.

I'm a novice, this is my first android phone but I believe you have to be s-off to flash ROMs. I'm on EE too, what I done was paid for Sunshine, about £14 I think, that unlocked the bootloader and s-off. I can flash ROMs no issues.
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oaklandm said:
I'm a novice, this is my first android phone but I believe you have to be s-off to flash ROMs. I'm on EE too, what I done was paid for Sunshine, about £14 I think, that unlocked the bootloader and s-off. I can flash ROMs no issues.
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You don't need to be s-off to flash a custom rom.. just a unlocked bootloader.
Put the rom on your internal sdcard not external sdcard and try again.
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Onem8 said:
oaklandm said:
I'm a novice, this is my first android phone but I believe you have to be s-off to flash ROMs. I'm on EE too, what I done was paid for Sunshine, about £14 I think, that unlocked the bootloader and s-off. I can flash ROMs no issues.
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You don't need to be s-off to flash a custom rom.. just a unlocked bootloader.
Put the rom on your internal sdcard not external sdcard and try again.
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I thought the same with S status but I didn't have s-off when i flashed my first rom. It was only when I flashed Viper that i ran into this issue.
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Onem8 said:
oaklandm said:
I'm a novice, this is my first android phone but I believe you have to be s-off to flash ROMs. I'm on EE too, what I done was paid for Sunshine, about £14 I think, that unlocked the bootloader and s-off. I can flash ROMs no issues.
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You don't need to be s-off to flash a custom rom.. just a unlocked bootloader.
Put the rom on your internal sdcard not external sdcard and try again.
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I have tried repeatedly, all I get is failed.
Right now I have flashed TWRP.
I am going to try flashing Viper once again and should that fail, try HD revolution.
I am also now using Hasson2000 AIO toolkit on my pc incase I was going wrong with shell.
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I only use adb..

Onem8 said:
I only use adb..
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As I would, normally.

Toolkits cause more issues than they solve.
Try:
fastboot erase cache
Then flash recovery again, and see if that helps.
Also, do you get the phone model number as a response when you type both:
adb devices
fastboot devices

finally fixed it. Now enjoying Venom.
Thanks for your suggestions

DOWmad said:
finally fixed it. Now enjoying Venom.
Thanks for your suggestions
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You should tell us how your fixed it. Both for our curiosity; and for others that might have a similar issue.
Also, there is a button to thank the posts you found helpful.

redpoint73 said:
You should tell us how your fixed it. Both for our curiosity; and for others that might have a similar issue.
Also, there is a button to thank the posts you found helpful.
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Not entirely sure how i fixed it but I'll list what I did.
Usually I work from a mac but decided to start afresh on my desktop.
I downloaded venom for m8
reflashed TWRP recovery.
Booted to recovery.
wiped cache and such.
Then adb side loaded the rom.
Some reason it worked. I have done this a good few times previously and with various rooms, not just venom.
I was using the AIO toolkit to side load this rather than the ADB cmd prompt.

Thanks for posting the steps that worked for you.
Like you said, hard to say what fixed it. Perhaps getting away from the toolkit, maybe just re-flashing recovery (even though you had done so previously) or wiping cache.
If moving a ROM to the device form the PC, I prefer adb push to adb sideload. Sideload seems to fail sometimes where push is fine. Push is some more steps (booting recovery and a few taps there to flash the ROM) but it seems more reliable. Although if it worked, it worked!

[Guide] HTC Desire 300 S-OFF Rumrunner

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rumrunner s-off is the results of hundreds of hours of hard work by beaups and fuses. The binaries contained within the rumrunner package you download should not be shared, rehosted, bat’d, integrated into a one-click, repackaged, or otherwise distributed or reused. This software is NOT open source.
This software is provided free of charge for personal non-commercial use. For commercial use or redistribution a WRITTEN agreement with the authors is required.
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For downloads and instructions please head to the Rumrunner site here:
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All credit goes to the Rumrunner team: @beaups @Fuses
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Does it erase a data on phone or sdcard?

matek11523 said:
Does it erase a data on phone or sdcard?
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Nope, it just somekind replace/overwrite the bootloader... *cmiiw
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Ok?
(Yes/No)
Yes
!! Do NOT for any reason taunt, unplug, drop, eat or pet your device !!
Please wait....
..........
Checking for updates......
ERROR: looks like device is not rooted AND lacks an unsecure kernel. su or FU!!
!
Press ENTER to exit
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I root the phone and don't change kernel. I'm running on stock.
edit. Work now. I reboot the PC and kill the programs that run in start, turn off firewall and antivirus and run soju.exe as administrator.

matek11523 said:
I root the phone and don't change kernel. I'm running on stock.
edit. Work now. I reboot the PC and kill the programs that run in start, turn off firewall and antivirus and run soju.exe as administrator.
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Congrats! I should add notice about antivirus and firewall. Thanks anyway..
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It works great. It took some time because I had to find Win7 32 bit with direct internet connection (I'm on Win8 64 bit) but at the end it is S-OFF.
Thank you!

Now I have another problem. After S-OFF with this method I can not start Bluetooth. Tried with wiping data (factory reset) but no luck. It would be nice to have radio to download. Maybe that would help my situation.
For now I will try with different ROM.

ffroms said:
Now I have another problem. After S-OFF with this method I can not start Bluetooth. Tried with wiping data (factory reset) but no luck. It would be nice to have radio to download. Maybe that would help my situation.
For now I will try with different ROM.
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you don't have to reflash the radio, just reflash a new rom (of course clean install)
Try this one : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GviR_-GCNSVFRzbmdzN1lwdFE/edit?pli=1
i'm using it and everything is running well

Thanks. Just flashed same ROM over (dirty flash) and now it is OK.
Is that link for full stock?
Warning to everyone. Don't flash CM10 (unless you want to stay with it) because you want be able to get back to stock. I tried that and ended up with mixed version that FC. Luckily I had backup before all this and that helped.

Yes but deodexed, and you're right, we can't go back to stock factory untill htc release the rom firmware separately like samsung etc
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A backup is always recommended anyway so you can flash whatever you want

bangdes said:
you don't have to reflash the radio, just reflash a new rom (of course clean install)
Try this one : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GviR_-GCNSVFRzbmdzN1lwdFE/edit?pli=1
i'm using it and everything is running well
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how do I Install this rom? simply flash in recovery as i would do with any rom?

LukeHorizon said:
how do I Install this rom? simply flash in recovery as i would do with any rom?
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absolutely yes

how to lock back bootloader to be *** LOCKED***

aleksa55 said:
how to lock back bootloader to be *** LOCKED***
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I didn't try yet, but you may see a direction here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
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Do I need S-OFF for custom ROM? After unlocking the bootloader I flashed stock rooted rom with custom twrp and now when phone starts it's in airplane mode and asks me to input decryption key. Wtf is that? I've never seen that on my other phones happen. Does S-OFF help here?
Thanks in advance.

Atrax2010 said:
Do I need S-OFF for custom ROM? After unlocking the bootloader I flashed stock rooted rom with custom twrp and now when phone starts it's in airplane mode and asks me to input decryption key. Wtf is that? I've never seen that on my other phones happen. Does S-OFF help here?
Thanks in advance.
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Actually you don't really need s-off for cus-rom, except you want to tweak the device itself. For the problem recovery, I suggest to using cwm from developer '4m8' thread
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I tried this on Windows XP- but i cannot run ADB and Fastboot
I tried it on Windows 8.1 too (installed drivers, there was "My HTC")- but when it turn phone in bootloader it says device cannot be recognized
I tried it on Windows 7 - It said that my device isnt't rooted (It is 100%) or I flashed unsupportable rom. I have flashed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584435, can this cause this problem ? Should I flash back that odexed one ?

jukson said:
I tried this on Windows XP- but i cannot run ADB and Fastboot
I tried it on Windows 8.1 too (installed drivers, there was "My HTC")- but when it turn phone in bootloader it says device cannot be recognized
I tried it on Windows 7 - It said that my device isnt't rooted (It is 100%) or I flashed unsupportable rom. I have flashed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584435, can this cause this problem ? Should I flash back that odexed one ?
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Maybe the bootloader still locked?
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bangdes said:
Maybe the bootloader still locked?
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Nope, it's unlocked.

[VIDEOS] [GUIDE] unlock bootloader, Root, TWRP and more on the HTC 10

HTC 10 Video Tutorials
How to Factory Reset your HTC 10 in stock Android Recovery
https://youtu.be/JBee34qtVC4
How to Unlock the Bootloader on your HTC device like the HTC 10
https://youtu.be/gdYTeZ2pOUk
How to Root the HTC 10 and Install TWRP Recovery
https://youtu.be/btdllA1vlqI
How to S off the HTC 10 with SunShine App
https://youtu.be/mo6S9lLluJw
How to flash Stock RUU Firmware to you HTC 10 in Download Mode
https://youtu.be/1ACU3RGm9YI
The Best Rom for your HTC device Viper10 rom on the HTC 10 Tutorial
https://youtu.be/FZtvdA0wRW0
more videos to come.
please leave a comment if you have any suggestions on video i should make thanks

added a couple more videos to the OP

I can't wait to do this later today. Thank you!
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when i get to twrp after running sunshine for s-off, it has option to keep read only or swipe to allow modification. which do i choose for wiping data?

Does this work for Verizon devices? Also, if the phone is encrypted should we decrypt prior?
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slygeist said:
when i get to twrp after running sunshine for s-off, it has option to keep read only or swipe to allow modification. which do i choose for wiping data?
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keep read only is fine

eersfanpilot said:
Does this work for Verizon devices? Also, if the phone is encrypted should we decrypt prior?
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you cant unlock the bootloader on Verizon device unless you go this method
http://theroot.ninja/verizon10.html

Just added another video to the OP

Forgive me if this has been asked already, but I did search and found nothing.
Does anyone know for sure that the t mobile version will come unlocked or be unlockable?
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So...just to clarify...Verizon users cannot: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery/SU, or anything without using the mail-in method at the current time...is this correct?

mikenjen0524 said:
So...just to clarify...Verizon users cannot: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery/SU, or anything without using the mail-in method at the current time...is this correct?
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yes that is correct. you could just buy the unlocked developer edition and then unlock root and s-off then flash the Verizon RUU and have a Verizon edition that is unlocked and awesome. or mail your phone to Jcase and he will unlock the bootloader and s-off for you. either way

Tomsgt said:
yes that is correct. you could just buy the unlocked developer edition and then unlock root and s-off then flash the Verizon RUU and have a Verizon edition that is unlocked and awesome. or mail your phone to Jcase and he will unlock the bootloader and s-off for you. either way
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Haha, well...too late for buying the unlocked version...but, if we cannot come up with a backup device to mail-in our current...from what I gather...jcase is pretty certain Sunshine will be available for the Verizon users in the future?

mikenjen0524 said:
Haha, well...too late for buying the unlocked version...but, if we cannot come up with a backup device to mail-in our current...from what I gather...jcase is pretty certain Sunshine will be available for the Verizon users in the future?
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yeah the problem is that Jcase is having trouble coming up with a good way to package the exploit he is using on the HTC 10 verizon so that it can be done in the SunShine app. Thats the hold up at this point.

Tomsgt said:
yeah the problem is that Jcase is having trouble coming up with a good way to package the exploit he is using on the HTC 10 verizon so that it can be done in the SunShine app. Thats the hold up at this point.
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K. Thank you for the response/added clarification.

mikenjen0524 said:
So...just to clarify...Verizon users cannot: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery/SU, or anything without using the mail-in method at the current time...is this correct?
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Correct.
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Great info and videos! Do you have any idea if custom Roms will be different (as in less development, choices, and frequency) for the Verizon variant? I'm debating which phone to get, thanks...
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mmvic said:
Great info and videos! Do you have any idea if custom Roms will be different (as in less development, choices, and frequency) for the Verizon variant? I'm debating which phone to get, thanks...
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If you want to use it on Verizon you likely will be stuck on custom roms and Verizon firmware anyways ....without firmware from vzw it won't work and without a rom that has vzw advanced call features built in you will be missing out on stuff.
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Thanks for this Tom,
But could explain why you need S-off? What are the benefits of having s-off or s-on?

If anyone can help or point me in the right direction would be appreciated because I think my phone is broke. I have an unlocked HTC 10 (non-carrier), unlocked bootloader, s-off(via sunshine), twrp 3.0.1-0-pme. The phone was rooted but ater a factory reset (s-on during that time) to try to get xposed to work data no longer works. I've done the following at least 3 time each with no change in results: format data, factory reset, flash SuperSU-v2.72-forceencrypt, flash SuperSU-v2.72, restore back up from twrp, re-flashed twrp. Can anyone tell me if I'm missing a step or is my phone useless. Thank you in advance!

Swarai said:
If anyone can help or point me in the right direction would be appreciated because I think my phone is broke. I have an unlocked HTC 10 (non-carrier), unlocked bootloader, s-off(via sunshine), twrp 3.0.1-0-pme. The phone was rooted but ater a factory reset (s-on during that time) to try to get xposed to work data no longer works. I've done the following at least 3 time each with no change in results: format data, factory reset, flash SuperSU-v2.72-forceencrypt, flash SuperSU-v2.72, restore back up from twrp, re-flashed twrp. Can anyone tell me if I'm missing a step or is my phone useless. Thank you in advance!
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yeah this does happen at times you need to restore a stock system image and boot image in twrp then wipe encryption to get your DATA working again.

How to get new update 1.53?

So I have an unlocked, rooted HTC 10 with Xposed and TWRP coming from a OnePlus One. With the One all you do is flash away, but it seems different for other brands. So my question is, how do I apply update 1.53 in my current setup? I've read about using the RUU, but I'm not too keen on wiping my data. Also not sure how to use the zip files provided in that thread.
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DIngusxp said:
So I have an unlocked, rooted HTC 10 with Xposed and TWRP coming from a OnePlus One. With the One all you do is flash away, but it seems different for other brands. So my question is, how do I apply update 1.53 in my current setup? I've read about using the RUU, but I'm not too keen on wiping my data. Also not sure how to use the zip files provided in that thread.
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I'm not positive how xposed will affect your ability to ota as I don't use it. But with just root and twrp, you should not have to wipe data but you will have to restore stock system image and firmware, so after the update you will need to redo all of your xposed mods and any root apps that modify system.
I wrote a guide about how to ota if you get an error with it, but the steps should apply to your current state as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-ota-receive-corrupt-message-t3378187
If you run into trouble ask in that thread.