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Audio not synced with video when using Bluetooth

When using Bluetooth (LG tone) for audio, I am having problems with audio/video syncing on some apps i.e. Netflix. The audio lags the video stream by sometimes half a sec which makes the whole experience terrible. I tried different Bluetooth headsets and the problem is still there. When I use wired headphones the problem is gone.
I have read a few threads and this is a problem that exists in a variety of android devices (phones, tablets of different models/manufacturers). It also manifests itself in other video apps.
I did not see any solution to this but maybe I am missing something.
I guess I am wondering If anyone could verify this with their tablet.
Also, can anyone shed some light as to why this is happening?
Does anyone know of a solution?
Thanks!

Bluetooth in general is... Laggy. That's why, for example, PS3 Sony wireless headphones aren't bluetooth. In the case that you're only listening to music it's ok but for watching a video I would only use wired headphones or non-bluetooth wireless ones. Bluetooth is still evolving, for the best connection and audio quality you want to be wired. Remember that the less steps on the chain the better, qualitywise and "lagwise".
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spky818 said:
When using Bluetooth (LG tone) for audio, I am having problems with audio/video syncing on some apps i.e. Netflix. The audio lags the video stream by sometimes half a sec which makes the whole experience terrible. I tried different Bluetooth headsets and the problem is still there. When I use wired headphones the problem is gone.
I have read a few threads and this is a problem that exists in a variety of android devices (phones, tablets of different models/manufacturers). It also manifests itself in other video apps.
I did not see any solution to this but maybe I am missing something.
I guess I am wondering If anyone could verify this with their tablet.
Also, can anyone shed some light as to why this is happening?
Does anyone know of a solution?
Thanks!
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Use DICE player for local files as for Netflix I don't know . Dice player is free and perfect for any video files .

Yeah unfortunatly bluetooth is laggy on all devices. Lags on my S3 and Laptop and when I had an iPhone it was the same out of sync experiance. So in the end i just used it for listening to music and tbh they were great for that.
Will be class whenever they no longer have lag.. will happily pay some good money for some.

That's right but the problem aren't the headphones/devices, the problem is the bluetooth itself, the way it processes the data makes it laggy for real time stuff..
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Geordie Affy said:
Yeah unfortunatly bluetooth is laggy on all devices. Lags on my S3 and Laptop and when I had an iPhone it was the same out of sync experiance. So in the end i just used it for listening to music and tbh they were great for that.
Will be class whenever they no longer have lag.. will happily pay some good money for some.
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Same here. Thanks for your response. I understand that the bluetooth protocol is not meant for watching video but I don't understand why I can play the same movie on Netflix on my transformer prime tablet with the same bluetooth headset and have zero lag in sound. Same goes for my Nexus4 and yet I can't get it work properly on this tablet.
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spky818 said:
Same here. Thanks for your response. I understand that the bluetooth protocol is not meant for watching video but I don't understand why I can play the same movie on Netflix on my transformer prime tablet with the same bluetooth headset and have zero lag in sound. Same goes for my Nexus4 and yet I can't get it work properly on this tablet.
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mmmm that is very very odd.
AHHHH I have just thought about this...What if you make the audio play a few milliseconds before the video or something maybe that could work....well it seems to work in my head haha, I dont have a Note 10.1 yet or even my Bluetooth headset with me otherwise I'd give it a go on my laptop.

Interesting... The note 2014 has bluetooth 4.0 which is the newest out there, hopefully a future firmware update will fix that...? (or maybe a Netflix update). Remember the note still has some flaws here and there. If you have NO lag in your transformer there should be a fix for that in ours... (more than no lag, synced correctly).
I know this isn't the answer you want, just my thoughts.
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No Bluetooth isn't laggy by itself, that's ridiculous. What you're experiencing is caused by interference. The main culprit is usually Wi-Fi
My Sony Bluetooth Headphones don't lag one bit on any device. But one time while I had it on, playing the PS3 (with the Bluetooth controller) and connected to the internet via Wifi, I was experiencing audio lag. I turned off the wi-fi and went hardwired and the lag disappeared.
Try listening to you headphones via bluetooth on this device. But shut off wifi and listen to something that's on the storage. Tell me if it lags. If it doesn't then you'll know it's the wifi that's interfering and maybe we can remedy the situation by switching what channel you router uses for it's wifi signal so it doesn't interfere with whatever channel the Bluetooth is using.
Don't automatically assume that Bluetooth is laggy by nature and that's that. That's nonsense.
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Dusko75 said:
Bluetooth in general is... Laggy. That's why, for example, PS3 Sony wireless headphones aren't bluetooth. In the case that you're only listening to music it's ok but for watching a video I would only use wired headphones or non-bluetooth wireless ones. Bluetooth is still evolving, for the best connection and audio quality you want to be wired. Remember that the less steps on the chain the better, qualitywise and "lagwise".
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Every Sony PS3 headset is Bluetooth. Where do you guys get this misinformation that they avoid it? The only way Bluetooth will lag is if your headphones are using an old, slow profile or you're trying to pass heavy content over Bluetooth (and I mean HEAVY high quality content) or your environment is littered with interference.
You think my Sony MDR1RB, a $400 pair of cans, is a laggy by nature? No. Who would pay $400 for that? Why would Sony even make that?
And the Sony MDR1RB isn't even Bluetooth 4.0 it's 2.1

vdc530 said:
No Bluetooth isn't laggy by itself, that's ridiculous. What you're experiencing is caused by interference. The main culprit is usually Wi-Fi
My Sony Bluetooth Headphones don't lag one bit on any device. But one time while I had it on, playing the PS3 (with the Bluetooth controller) and connected to the internet via Wifi, I was experiencing audio lag. I turned off the wi-fi and went hardwired and the lag disappeared.
Try listening to you headphones via bluetooth on this device. But shut off wifi and listen to something that's on the storage. Tell me if it lags. If it doesn't then you'll know it's the wifi that's interfering and maybe we can remedy the situation by switching what channel you router uses for it's wifi signal so it doesn't interfere with whatever channel the Bluetooth is using.
Don't automatically assume that Bluetooth is laggy by nature and that's that. That's nonsense.
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Every Sony PS3 headset is Bluetooth. Where do you guys get this misinformation that they avoid it? The only way Bluetooth will lag is if your headphones are using an old, slow profile or you're trying to pass heavy content over Bluetooth (and I mean HEAVY high quality content) or your environment is littered with interference.
You think my Sony MDR1RB, a $400 pair of cans, is a laggy by nature? No. Who would pay $400 for that? Why would Sony even make that?
And the Sony MDR1RB isn't even Bluetooth 4.0 it's 2.1
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That was my initial thought. This is why I am using the 5GHz WiFi band since Bluetooth sits at 2.4GHz (same out of sync result). Also some streaming apps have no problem with audio sync i.e. Youtube, streaming from local NAS video and even streaming from Slingbox. I find it tough to swallow that it is a problem with the Bluetooth headphones since they actually work perfectly on my TF201 and Nexus4.
I think it is the actual implementation of the Bluetooth stack on the tablet that is at fault.

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That was my initial thought. This is why I am using the 5GHz WiFi band since Bluetooth sits at 2.4GHz (same out of sync result). Also some streaming apps have no problem with audio sync i.e. Youtube, streaming from local NAS video and even streaming from Slingbox. I find it tough to swallow that it is a problem with the Bluetooth headphones since they actually work perfectly on my TF201 and Nexus4.
I think it is the actual implementation of the Bluetooth stack on the tablet that is at fault.
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How you tried switching your wifi channel? There is an app on the Play store that scans your environment and shows you which channels are most congested. Search "wifi channel" and see which one looks best, I'm sure there are multiple ones.
As far as the implementation of the Bluetooth stack being at fault, if that was so, then wouldn't my Sony's lag as well? But the don't

vdc530 said:
How you tried switching your wifi channel? There is an app on the Play store that scans your environment and shows you which channels are most congested. Search "wifi channel" and see which one looks best, I'm sure there are multiple ones.
As far as the implementation of the Bluetooth stack being at fault, if that was so, then wouldn't my Sony's lag as well? But the don't
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Thanks for your response. This is actually really good info. Your Sony works with Netflix streaming with no lag issues on this Note??? If so maybe it is worth for me buying and trying one.
As far as the channel scanner, I used it and tried a few channels for my WiFi with no improvement. The higher end of the band i.e. ch11 is very clean. Anyway, I ended up going to 5GHz to at least ensure that there is no interference with the Bluetooth coming from my Wifi system.

Apologies on wrong info @spky818 but I could only go on what I have experienced with Bluetooth ... If what VDC530 says is true then I think I'll invest in some good quality BT headphones aswell...Hate wires haha.

Geordie Affy said:
Apologies on wrong info @spky818 but I could only go on what I have experienced with Bluetooth ... If what VDC530 says is true then I think I'll invest in some good quality BT headphones aswell...Hate wires haha.
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No worries. Thanks for taking the time to comment to begin with. Hate those wires too so if better headsets do the trick then I am all for it too.
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Sorry but I'll have to disagree with vdc530, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or start a controversy here, but you are assuming that I'm assuming things. In my experience with bluetooth I found it most of the times laggy, that's why I said "in general", that doesn't mean "everything", (obviously because I don't have every single device/configuration). If you didn't have mayor lags so far or you found a way around it that's great and I mean it, and great you share it.
Not every Sony Headset/phones are bluetooth, http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Stereo-Headset-Playstation-3/dp/B0053OLY9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384458305&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+ps3+headphones , That's the one I was talking about, and I was assuming (I'm human) that Sony didn't make it bluetooth because it would overload the bluetooth on the PS3, that makes sense to me according to my bluetooth experience, and yes I can be wrong on that. Anyway at the end that's out of the main point here, so I don't want to expand on that.
I wouldn't say "nonsense" to something someone says, even if I know everything there is to be known about this or that matter, we can strongly disagree, explain our points and/or correct someone in a more polite way.
That's the beauty of a forum, I always make sure to specify if it's my knowledge, my thoughts or an assumption, i apologize if I didn't.

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I know it doesn't help with Netflix but I use BS player which has an audio offset option to synch the audio.

thomlh said:
I know it doesn't help with Netflix but I use BS player which has an audio offset option to synch the audio.
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Works good. Dice Player also allows for audio syncing. It's what I use, when I stream via bluetooth.
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vdc530 said:
No Bluetooth isn't laggy by itself, that's ridiculous. What you're experiencing is caused by interference. The main culprit is usually Wi-Fi
My Sony Bluetooth Headphones don't lag one bit on any device. But one time while I had it on, playing the PS3 (with the Bluetooth controller) and connected to the internet via Wifi, I was experiencing audio lag. I turned off the wi-fi and went hardwired and the lag disappeared.
Try listening to you headphones via bluetooth on this device. But shut off wifi and listen to something that's on the storage. Tell me if it lags. If it doesn't then you'll know it's the wifi that's interfering and maybe we can remedy the situation by switching what channel you router uses for it's wifi signal so it doesn't interfere with whatever channel the Bluetooth is using.
Don't automatically assume that Bluetooth is laggy by nature and that's that. That's nonsense.
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No worries. Thanks for taking the time to comment to begin with. Hate those wires too so if better headsets do the trick then I am all for it too.
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Update:
So I fished out my old Bluetooth Headset (Sony DR-BT22) that I bought back in 2009 for a mere £20 on a clearance sale, these headphones were the reason I said all Bluetooth lags since I tested it on a multiple different devices (S3, Iphone 3G and Laptop).....anyways so I decided to test them on the Note 10.1 just to test something I already know and that I need to invest in some expensive £70 ($110) Bluetooth headphones I have seen.
To my shock there is no lag whatsoever when using the DR-BT22 via Youtube or even while playing a video stored on the Note 10.1...AWESOME
I really have no idea why it works on my Note efficiently yet doesn't on other devices but I no longer care - I now have Wireless headphones for my Note 10.1 that I didn't even know worked haha. I always loved the foldaway design of these headphones and now I can actually utilise this on my travels.
Thanks vdc530 and spky818 I wouldn't have bothered trying my old ones if it wasn't for yous - saved myself some canny dosh :good:

I was watching BS player yesterday with wired headphones and I had lag in the audio caused by fast forwarding. The only way to get rid was to close the player and reload the movie after which it was perfect.
So is it Bluetooth or the player or a combination?

Geordie Affy said:
Update:
So I fished out my old Bluetooth Headset (Sony DR-T22) that I bought back in 2009 for a mere £20 on a clearance sale, these headphones were the reason I said all Bluetooth lags since I tested it on a multiple different devices (S3, Iphone 3G and Laptop).....anyways so I decided to test them on the Note 10.1 just to test something I already know and that I need to invest in some expensive £70 ($110) Bluetooth headphones I have seen.
To my shock there is no lag whatsoever when using the DR-T22 via Youtube or even while playing a video stored on the Note 10.1...AWESOME
I really have no idea why it works on my Note efficiently yet doesn't on other devices but I no longer care - I now have Wireless headphones for my Note 10.1 that I didn't even know worked haha. I always loved the foldaway design of these headphones and now I can actually utilise this on my travels.
Thanks vdc530 and spky818 I wouldn't have bothered trying my old ones if it wasn't for yous - saved myself some canny dosh :good:
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I am having audio lag with a nexus 10 I just received using bluetooth, and actually have an old pair of sony dr-bt22s in the shed, just got them out and charging, hope this works for me as well!

[Q] Digital Audio Output

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a digital audio output from this tablet? Stereo is fine - don't need surround sound or anything fancy, although that would be nice too!

drb01 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a digital audio output from this tablet? Stereo is fine - don't need surround sound or anything fancy, although that would be nice too!
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Yes, I was surprised that when I plugged my Fiio E17 in it just worked with the standard LG ROM. Recent custom ROMs also now support USB audio.

Armpowered said:
Yes, I was surprised that when I plugged my Fiio E17 in it just worked with the standard LG ROM. Recent custom ROMs also now support USB audio.
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Great news, but how in practice do I do it? I am hoping to plug the lg into my hifi audio amp via the coax digital input...

drb01 said:
Great news, but how in practice do I do it? I am hoping to plug the lg into my hifi audio amp via the coax digital input...
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You need a USB "on the go" (otg) cable, £1-2 from famous "auction" site.
Then (something I haven't used) you'd need a USB to coax converter - which seem to exist. I just tried a cheap (£11) USB sound card that I have and it happily converted the USB output of gpad into optical or analogue (not coax).
An alternative could be to look at a Bluetooth solution.

Armpowered said:
You need a USB "on the go" (otg) cable, £1-2 from famous "auction" site.
Then (something I haven't used) you'd need a USB to coax converter - which seem to exist. I just tried a cheap (£11) USB sound card that I have and it happily converted the USB output of gpad into optical or analogue (not coax).
An alternative could be to look at a Bluetooth solution.
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As you say it seems like an OTG connector plugged into a sound card would do the trick. But is there a more direct method? E.g. my old laptop has a straight digital output. I am trying to avoid latency apart from anything, as one application would be to use it at the same time as Miracast (my surround sound pre-amp is very good but doesn't have HDMI so my blu-ray player's HDMI goes to a projector, and the sound is handled separately via coax - works surprisingly well). Would like to replicate with the LG.

drb01 said:
As you say it seems like an OTG connector plugged into a sound card would do the trick. But is there a more direct method?
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I've not come across a tablet with direct digital audio out via optical or coax. This is now a different question from how I originally understood it (I assumed just wanting to listen to audio).
Can't you get the audio via Miracast (I'm not getting it ATM but I thought it did when I've tried previously)? I suppose it really depends on what you are trying to play and what to, there are all sorts of possibilities.
I use the Netflix and YouTube apps on tablet to control play on recent Samsung tv / Chromecast dongle (not actually streaming). You can play audio/video via dlna to appropriate players, you can stream to Apple TV with appropriate app. etc..

Armpowered said:
I've not come across a tablet with direct digital audio out via optical or coax. This is now a different question from how I originally understood it (I assumed just wanting to listen to audio).
Can't you get the audio via Miracast (I'm not getting it ATM but I thought it did when I've tried previously)? I suppose it really depends on what you are trying to play and what to, there are all sorts of possibilities.
I use the Netflix and YouTube apps on tablet to control play on recent Samsung tv / Chromecast dongle (not actually streaming). You can play audio/video via dlna to appropriate players, you can stream to Apple TV with appropriate app. etc..
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I guess I have two needs, one for straight audio which now seems fairly straight forward (and thanks for your help), and then it would be nice to get video as well. I thought the LG was Miracast, not Chromecast or can it do both? Either way I would need to get a dongle for HDMI into my projector, and separate sound to the audio processor.
But how would it do DLNA? My Sony blu ray player BDP-S570 does DLNA and that would be a really neat way to do the video as it would handle sound at the same time...

drb01 said:
I thought the LG was Miracast, not Chromecast or can it do both? Either way I would need to get a dongle for HDMI into my projector, and separate sound to the audio processor.
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Miracast is the screen mirroring system, Chromecast is Google's dongle for playing some streaming video sources on TV. Matching apps on tablet/phone can control the playback on Chromecast, some recent TVs use the same control protocol (DIAL) so their respective streaming apps can be controlled in the same way
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But how would it do DLNA? My Sony blu ray player BDP-S570 does DLNA and that would be a really neat way to do the video as it would handle sound at the same time...
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I use the BubbleUPnP app, it discovers media servers and playback devices on you home network and allows you to control play. It also acts as a dlna server itself, so video stored on phone/tablet can be played on dlna player (TV/blu ray/streaming box/other mobile device).
Note that dlna doesn't guarantee playback, the rendering device needs to understand the format of media from the server, the more recent the equipment the greater the chance of success (eg my recent TV plays streamed video better than the two year old bluray player, my 4 year old TV won't even play video via dlna but will music and jpegs).

Armpowered said:
Miracast is the screen mirroring system, Chromecast is Google's dongle for playing some streaming video sources on TV. Matching apps on tablet/phone can control the playback on Chromecast, some recent TVs use the same control protocol (DIAL) so their respective streaming apps can be controlled in the same way
So I can buy either a Chromecast HDMI dongle or a Miracast HDMI dongle and both should be compatible with my LG G Pad? I see in Settings on the LG there is a Miracast toggle, but no Chromecast setting. Sorry - I guess I am a bit ignorant about all this! Ill try the DLNA when I get a chance...
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So I can buy either a Chromecast HDMI dongle or a Miracast HDMI dongle and both should be compatible with my LG G Pad? I see in Settings on the LG there is a Miracast toggle, but no Chromecast setting. Sorry - I guess I am a bit ignorant about all this! Ill try the DLNA when I get a chance...
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It really depends exactly what you want to do.
Miracast mirrors the tablet display, so anything you see on the tablet will appear on TV including games (but lag is too much to really be usable for this).
Google's Chromecast dongle doesn't allow you to show any random video, there needs to be a matching Chromecast app. (I've only used Netflix and Youtube). You start the matching app on the tablet, tap an icon and choose where (on which device) to view the video, you can then pause/play rewind etc. using the tablet.

Armpowered said:
It really depends exactly what you want to do.
Miracast mirrors the tablet display, so anything you see on the tablet will appear on TV including games (but lag is too much to really be usable for this).
Google's Chromecast dongle doesn't allow you to show any random video, there needs to be a matching Chromecast app. (I've only used Netflix and Youtube). You start the matching app on the tablet, tap an icon and choose where (on which device) to view the video, you can then pause/play rewind etc. using the tablet.
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Thanks again. I get the difference between the two, but I just want to make sure that my LG G Pad is compatible with both Miracast and Chromecast dongles. I have to say that these dongles don't get very good reviews on Amazon but I guess Ill have to get one or the other ...

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I have to say that these dongles don't get very good reviews on Amazon but I guess Ill have to get one or the other ...
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If you don't mind the cable you could use a Slimport adapter to get HDMI out of the USB socket - have never tried it so don't know the pros/cons.

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If you don't mind the cable you could use a Slimport adapter to get HDMI out of the USB socket - have never tried it so don't know the pros/cons.
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That could well be the way forward - at least it should work! I am surprised there are not people commenting on miracast etc.

[Q] AFTV as bluetooth audio receiver/speaker

Hi!
Is it possible to use the (unrooted) AFTV as a Bluetooth Audio Speaker?
I want to connect my Smartphone, to play my music on my home cinema System, which is plugged into the AFTV.
Thanks in advance
ChelseaSmile

ChelseaSmile said:
Hi!
Is it possible to use the (unrooted) AFTV as a Bluetooth Audio Speaker?
I want to connect my Smartphone, to play my music on my home cinema System, which is plugged into the AFTV.
Thanks in advance
ChelseaSmile
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it's easier to use bubbleupnp or some other UPnP through XBMC. Right now Bluetooth audio is not working very well on the firetv.

I would be very interested in the same solution as well. My Fire TV is hooked up to my stereo as well. The huge disadvantage of UPnP is, that it is not as easy to use as bluetooth. Often I'm having friends over and we play music from different sources such as Spotify, Youtube, streams from websites etc. With bluetooth I can just connect my tablet and everything is working.

puregenius said:
I would be very interested in the same solution as well. My Fire TV is hooked up to my stereo as well. The huge disadvantage of UPnP is, that it is not as easy to use as bluetooth. Often I'm having friends over and we play music from different sources such as Spotify, Youtube, streams from websites etc. With bluetooth I can just connect my tablet and everything is working.
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Dito!
That's exactly the reason why I explicitely asked for bluetooth support and not for streaming in general. Anyone here with a more useful idea?
@t3ch42: You wrote "...Bluetooth audio is not working very well ...". So can you please tell me how to setup this "not working very well" configuration? I think it would be better than nothing.

ChelseaSmile said:
Dito!
That's exactly the reason why I explicitely asked for bluetooth support and not for streaming in general. Anyone here with a more useful idea?
@t3ch42: You wrote "...Bluetooth audio is not working very well ...". So can you please tell me how to setup this "not working very well" configuration? I think it would be better than nothing.
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Wow could you be more of a **** about it.

To elaborate a little more, to setup the not working well config, you would use a bluetooth receiver and use an android settings apk sideloaded and connect. None of the bluerooth devices so far that need a code to connect will connect yet. But with a standard bluetooth reciever, you get a lag. Somewhere between 3/10 and 4/10 of a second usually. But thats not what you're after is it?
As far as using the firetv as a bt receiver; not supported. I would hope that this is not the case forever. I'd love to use my phone or the firerv as a bt receiver too. But the particular protocol is not supported right now.
So you see, bluetooth audio is not working very well. And not at all in the manner in which you inquired about. So, for streaming using bt, i'd suggest going to amazon and purchasing a bt receiver for about 7dollars delivered.
Since you don't seem to want to use upnp, that's your best option.

atfv bluetooth problem
hi all this is what I've notice installed new update bluetooth headset was working fine i then zero cache aftv now 1 sec delay
couldn't find a fix so factory reset aftv setup bluetooth again now working
zero cached again now delay back again
so all with this problem have you zero cache your aftv I'm not gonna reset as I've to many add ons to try and remember to install
if someone could look into that side and maybe find a fix

Chromecast Audio

I tried looking up this device on xda, but nothing yet, so i thought i'd post here first.
since it uses an audio jack, do you guys think you could plug this into your cars aux port, and stream using your phone? or is it dependent on wifi only?

It is wifi, not bluetooth. Might work in guest mode. I'm very interested in the device, but want to use if for DLNA streaming from my home server if at all possible.

Hi,
It also has dual output connector: analog 3.5 jack and optical spdif... equal to Apple Airport Express.

Anybody see if it has native FLAC support? I haven't found an answer to that yet. This may be a device I just have to buy and try...

Note10.1Dude said:
Anybody see if it has native FLAC support? I haven't found an answer to that yet. This may be a device I just have to buy and try...
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Yeah I'm still waiting for an answer as to if it supports 320kbps for high quality streaming from spotify. That would be the main advantage of it over a bluetooth receiver.
I'd love to know if it does support that if anyone can find out!

FLAC is listed as supported media for google cast, so it SHOULD work.
https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/media

does anybody have any idea if Chromecast Audio would work as a car audio solution? I tried using a 1st Gen Chromecast but ran into the issue of the device's requiring an actual internet connection (not simply a wifi connection). My guess is that Chromecast Audio will similarly require an internet connection, but am wondering if there is a workaround?

mcnoggin said:
does anybody have any idea if Chromecast Audio would work as a car audio solution? I tried using a 1st Gen Chromecast but ran into the issue of the device's requiring an actual internet connection (not simply a wifi connection). My guess is that Chromecast Audio will similarly require an internet connection, but am wondering if there is a workaround?
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A lot of talk, no conclusion about this yet. Some suggest tethering the phone should work. I've got one on order, should know next week.

cool, let us know! =]

I am working on getting mine to work in my car today. I bought it yesterday and didn't have much time to mess with it. I had it working as I tethered through my phone and using my gfs phone to play music but I'm going to see if I can get it to work without tether.

Got it working but not perfect
So the main thing is IT WORKS!!
Its just buggy getting it started but after that it plays fine for the whole ride. Here is what I did (notice: must have working tether on your phone to get it to work)
I am running a nexus 6 with Chroma ROM. Also I'm using Spotify to play my music.
Steps I did to try to get it working.
1. I first went through the setup process on my gf galaxy s5 and updated the chromecast through my tether.
2. I hooked everything up in my car.
3. Turned on my phones WiFi and press the button on the Chromecast first and then connect to the WiFi that my Chromecast gives out.
4. Then open the Chromecast app and make sure it sees it. (Mine still says it needs to be setup even though it already is. Don't worry about that)
5. Open Spotify and in the devices area it should say nearby cast or something like that. Try to connect and it will ask for a pin. Ignore that and hit cancel.
6. Then turn on your hotspot on your phone. It will then show your Chromecast name correctly in Spotify and you can connect and play music. (Must leave your tether on)
All in all I got it working without having a separate wireless connection to connect both of them and have audio playing through my car audio. I tried it twice now and it has worked.
Also the Chromecast app will not show its connected even though you're playing music through it. I have a screenshot of it at the bottom.

Nice - I have a ground-loop issue in my car and can't charge my phone the same time it is plugged into the stereo - this might solve that. I'm using mine to add streaming to a bedroom system, but if I like it, I may replace the streamer box on the home stereo, which cuts out on FLAC from time to time.

UPDATE: you do not have to go through all those steps everytime. I've tested further and found that it is much easier.
After you already have it setup in your car, to connect do these steps:
1. Turn on your phones WiFi and connect to your Chromecast audio.
2.After a few seconds turn your hotspot on(do not turn off the WiFi at any time).
3. After a few seconds Spotify will see your device and work perfectly.

OK,
I have had my Chromecast Audio working for the last day. I am using it with BubbleUpNP to stream audio of of my DLNA server on my home network. Working well, more reliable than the Soundmate that I was using. Going to order a micro-toslink SPDIF cable to use my on DAC. It isn't a DLNA renderer, so it won't work with software that is expecting UPNP/DLNA, but BubbleUpNP is working well.

I got one of these today, and the Hardware is really nice. It has a decent DAC, good WiFi, Dual (Analogue, Optical) output, so all good on that front. It also plays 24bit 192K FLAC from Qobuz without trouble. You should however make sure to turn the "High Dynamic Range" setting on in the CC app!
However, I don't like the way it's handled. I'm used to running Logitech Media Server with am Odroid U3 as Server and a couple of Raspberry Pi units with Hifiberry DAC/Digi/Amp addon boards, and with that setup starting music in the mornings is easy. I turn on the power, and that's it, after the Pi has booted, the music starts playing, choosing the last Playlist or Webradio Station I used when I turned it off. No need to even touch my phone.
With Chromecast I have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually get it playing any music, and that's it's biggest failure IMHO. It won't automatically reconnect, it won't resume playing where it left off, it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
This is a huge waste of potential! Sadly, I cannot use this neat piece of Hardware with Logitech Media Server, because it doesn't work as a DLNA Renderer, and LMS can't cast to Chromecast (since that only works from Android/iOS/Chrome OS).
So, while this COULD be great, it's currently badly underachieving. Maybe someone will work out a way to fix this by rooting CC and installing Squeezelite on it, of by some other means. There is always hope!

CommanderROR said:
I got one of these today, and the Hardware is really nice. It has a decent DAC, good WiFi, Dual (Analogue, Optical) output, so all good on that front. It also plays 24bit 192K FLAC from Qobuz without trouble. You should however make sure to turn the "High Dynamic Range" setting on in the CC app!
However, I don't like the way it's handled. I'm used to running Logitech Media Server with am Odroid U3 as Server and a couple of Raspberry Pi units with Hifiberry DAC/Digi/Amp addon boards, and with that setup starting music in the mornings is easy. I turn on the power, and that's it, after the Pi has booted, the music starts playing, choosing the last Playlist or Webradio Station I used when I turned it off. No need to even touch my phone.
With Chromecast I have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually get it playing any music, and that's it's biggest failure IMHO. It won't automatically reconnect, it won't resume playing where it left off, it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
This is a huge waste of potential! Sadly, I cannot use this neat piece of Hardware with Logitech Media Server, because it doesn't work as a DLNA Renderer, and LMS can't cast to Chromecast (since that only works from Android/iOS/Chrome OS).
So, while this COULD be great, it's currently badly underachieving. Maybe someone will work out a way to fix this by rooting CC and installing Squeezelite on it, of by some other means. There is always hope!
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You can use it with your DLNA server, but you need to manage the Chromecast with BubbleUpNP on your phone. Not perfect, but more stable than the renderer that I was using.

I got mine yesterday and I must say that I am very happy with it. One thing though, when I play music via YouTube (via casting screen/audio in the CC app) the sound volume is really low. It is much higher when I play music via Spotify. Is there a way to boost the output from the phone? I tried the hardware buttons of course

Workaround for the Volume being too low: Use a cast-native app like Spotify to crank up the Volume.

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it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
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Yes, I see your point, but IMHO it's more than just a WiFi equivalent of a BT adaptor because, whilst you CAN stream from your device/locally with the right app, most "standard/consumer" use cases have the Chromecast streaming content direct from the Internet which is controlled by the app in your device. Your device doesn't do the streaming, saving power, you don't have to stay in range, etc. If I start steaming using Spotify as the app, for example, the Chromecast will continue playing my playlist even if I close Spotify on my device.

True. However, it still lacks a lot of features other multiroom systems offer. This little dingle has loads of potential, but Google will have to work hard to make it shine...

App to turn FireTV into AirPlay Sender --NOT Receiever

I have TunedIn installed on my FireTV and I have an AirPlay speaker that I want to send the Audio to.
Is there any native FireTV app or any android app that anyone can suggest that I can use to transmit or mirror audio from my FireTV to my AirPlay speaker? Thanks!

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I have TunedIn installed on my FireTV and I have an AirPlay speaker that I want to send the Audio to.
Is there any native FireTV app or any android app that anyone can suggest that I can use to transmit or mirror audio from my FireTV to my AirPlay speaker? Thanks!
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Maybe its because i dont have any ios devices but when you say mirror does that mean just play audio through the airplay speakers? Are the speakers Bluetooth? Ive been able to pair headphones to aftv. Cant rememer if i sideloaded the settings apk or got it to work with just the stock settings.

By mirror, I meant play audio through airplay speaker I own. It is an airplay only device, not bluetooth. (http://shop.panasonic. com/support-only/SC-AP01.html)
I would think that there would software that would turn an Android device into an Airplay transmitting device, but maybe im wrong.

I use AllStream on my phone to stream to AirPlay and DLNA receivers. It forwards any sound playing on your device. Works well with Pandora, Spotify, Amazon Music etc. I am not sure if it would work on the Fire TV. It requires root and you would need a mouse to navigate it. Might also require Google Play Store for the paid version. So not a trivial project. Let us know how it goes.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kineticgamestudios.airtunes.android&hl=en
I use it regularly to stream from may phone TO the Fire TV running AirReceiver on the Fire TV which works great (I know this is not what you want, just as information for others).