[Q] Digital Audio Output - G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a digital audio output from this tablet? Stereo is fine - don't need surround sound or anything fancy, although that would be nice too!

drb01 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a digital audio output from this tablet? Stereo is fine - don't need surround sound or anything fancy, although that would be nice too!
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Yes, I was surprised that when I plugged my Fiio E17 in it just worked with the standard LG ROM. Recent custom ROMs also now support USB audio.

Armpowered said:
Yes, I was surprised that when I plugged my Fiio E17 in it just worked with the standard LG ROM. Recent custom ROMs also now support USB audio.
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Great news, but how in practice do I do it? I am hoping to plug the lg into my hifi audio amp via the coax digital input...

drb01 said:
Great news, but how in practice do I do it? I am hoping to plug the lg into my hifi audio amp via the coax digital input...
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You need a USB "on the go" (otg) cable, £1-2 from famous "auction" site.
Then (something I haven't used) you'd need a USB to coax converter - which seem to exist. I just tried a cheap (£11) USB sound card that I have and it happily converted the USB output of gpad into optical or analogue (not coax).
An alternative could be to look at a Bluetooth solution.

Armpowered said:
You need a USB "on the go" (otg) cable, £1-2 from famous "auction" site.
Then (something I haven't used) you'd need a USB to coax converter - which seem to exist. I just tried a cheap (£11) USB sound card that I have and it happily converted the USB output of gpad into optical or analogue (not coax).
An alternative could be to look at a Bluetooth solution.
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As you say it seems like an OTG connector plugged into a sound card would do the trick. But is there a more direct method? E.g. my old laptop has a straight digital output. I am trying to avoid latency apart from anything, as one application would be to use it at the same time as Miracast (my surround sound pre-amp is very good but doesn't have HDMI so my blu-ray player's HDMI goes to a projector, and the sound is handled separately via coax - works surprisingly well). Would like to replicate with the LG.

drb01 said:
As you say it seems like an OTG connector plugged into a sound card would do the trick. But is there a more direct method?
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I've not come across a tablet with direct digital audio out via optical or coax. This is now a different question from how I originally understood it (I assumed just wanting to listen to audio).
Can't you get the audio via Miracast (I'm not getting it ATM but I thought it did when I've tried previously)? I suppose it really depends on what you are trying to play and what to, there are all sorts of possibilities.
I use the Netflix and YouTube apps on tablet to control play on recent Samsung tv / Chromecast dongle (not actually streaming). You can play audio/video via dlna to appropriate players, you can stream to Apple TV with appropriate app. etc..

Armpowered said:
I've not come across a tablet with direct digital audio out via optical or coax. This is now a different question from how I originally understood it (I assumed just wanting to listen to audio).
Can't you get the audio via Miracast (I'm not getting it ATM but I thought it did when I've tried previously)? I suppose it really depends on what you are trying to play and what to, there are all sorts of possibilities.
I use the Netflix and YouTube apps on tablet to control play on recent Samsung tv / Chromecast dongle (not actually streaming). You can play audio/video via dlna to appropriate players, you can stream to Apple TV with appropriate app. etc..
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I guess I have two needs, one for straight audio which now seems fairly straight forward (and thanks for your help), and then it would be nice to get video as well. I thought the LG was Miracast, not Chromecast or can it do both? Either way I would need to get a dongle for HDMI into my projector, and separate sound to the audio processor.
But how would it do DLNA? My Sony blu ray player BDP-S570 does DLNA and that would be a really neat way to do the video as it would handle sound at the same time...

drb01 said:
I thought the LG was Miracast, not Chromecast or can it do both? Either way I would need to get a dongle for HDMI into my projector, and separate sound to the audio processor.
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Miracast is the screen mirroring system, Chromecast is Google's dongle for playing some streaming video sources on TV. Matching apps on tablet/phone can control the playback on Chromecast, some recent TVs use the same control protocol (DIAL) so their respective streaming apps can be controlled in the same way
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But how would it do DLNA? My Sony blu ray player BDP-S570 does DLNA and that would be a really neat way to do the video as it would handle sound at the same time...
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I use the BubbleUPnP app, it discovers media servers and playback devices on you home network and allows you to control play. It also acts as a dlna server itself, so video stored on phone/tablet can be played on dlna player (TV/blu ray/streaming box/other mobile device).
Note that dlna doesn't guarantee playback, the rendering device needs to understand the format of media from the server, the more recent the equipment the greater the chance of success (eg my recent TV plays streamed video better than the two year old bluray player, my 4 year old TV won't even play video via dlna but will music and jpegs).

Armpowered said:
Miracast is the screen mirroring system, Chromecast is Google's dongle for playing some streaming video sources on TV. Matching apps on tablet/phone can control the playback on Chromecast, some recent TVs use the same control protocol (DIAL) so their respective streaming apps can be controlled in the same way
So I can buy either a Chromecast HDMI dongle or a Miracast HDMI dongle and both should be compatible with my LG G Pad? I see in Settings on the LG there is a Miracast toggle, but no Chromecast setting. Sorry - I guess I am a bit ignorant about all this! Ill try the DLNA when I get a chance...
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drb01 said:
So I can buy either a Chromecast HDMI dongle or a Miracast HDMI dongle and both should be compatible with my LG G Pad? I see in Settings on the LG there is a Miracast toggle, but no Chromecast setting. Sorry - I guess I am a bit ignorant about all this! Ill try the DLNA when I get a chance...
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It really depends exactly what you want to do.
Miracast mirrors the tablet display, so anything you see on the tablet will appear on TV including games (but lag is too much to really be usable for this).
Google's Chromecast dongle doesn't allow you to show any random video, there needs to be a matching Chromecast app. (I've only used Netflix and Youtube). You start the matching app on the tablet, tap an icon and choose where (on which device) to view the video, you can then pause/play rewind etc. using the tablet.

Armpowered said:
It really depends exactly what you want to do.
Miracast mirrors the tablet display, so anything you see on the tablet will appear on TV including games (but lag is too much to really be usable for this).
Google's Chromecast dongle doesn't allow you to show any random video, there needs to be a matching Chromecast app. (I've only used Netflix and Youtube). You start the matching app on the tablet, tap an icon and choose where (on which device) to view the video, you can then pause/play rewind etc. using the tablet.
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Thanks again. I get the difference between the two, but I just want to make sure that my LG G Pad is compatible with both Miracast and Chromecast dongles. I have to say that these dongles don't get very good reviews on Amazon but I guess Ill have to get one or the other ...

drb01 said:
I have to say that these dongles don't get very good reviews on Amazon but I guess Ill have to get one or the other ...
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If you don't mind the cable you could use a Slimport adapter to get HDMI out of the USB socket - have never tried it so don't know the pros/cons.

Armpowered said:
If you don't mind the cable you could use a Slimport adapter to get HDMI out of the USB socket - have never tried it so don't know the pros/cons.
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That could well be the way forward - at least it should work! I am surprised there are not people commenting on miracast etc.

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What about DLNA?

I take it neither of the Desire Z or HD have capabilities to connect to a HDTV via a cable... but the Desire HD was shown to have DLNA compatibility.
does anyone know if the Desire Z will have DLNA compatibility out of the box??
Also would it be via Wifi? i.e if i had a HDTV with Wifi and DLNA compatibility - i wouldnt need anythin else?? (or even the ps3...)
i vaguely remember the Touch Pro, or TP2 having TV-Out, i dont exactly like the idea of being strapped to a tv via a cable, but anyone reckon a mod could be made to duplicate screens?
on a final note, there is an app on the market that claims to add DLNA compatibilty to your current android device - couldnt get it to work (didnt really try hard enough tbh)
According to the spec at http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html (Multimedia section) , yes, the Desire Z has DLNA.
While waiting for my Desire Z to arrive...
I have an AZBox HD satellite received and can install something like ushare or something which basically (so they say) makes it DLNA capable.
EDIT: I've just read that my Qnap TS-219P Turbo NAS also had DLNA, and all my multimedia is stored on it.
How, in few words, would I be able to use this on my phone?
I know NOTHING about DLNA yet
htc's official promotional video says that it has it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=KUeW6-HTtSU
I'm running the desire HD rom and I have a pre-installed htc app called 'push media'. I lets you share photos, video and music via wifi
I can not find DNLA the specifications to the G2 but "z" has it.
so maybe it's better with a z then a G2
I'm surfing on youtube every day to see the latest news on the G2 and it appears that no one has 4gig memory it the same as the z 2gig
It can be the HTCSense, I want to put it on my G2
I belive there is also an HTC option for connecting it to HDTV with cable if the TV is not DLNA compatible.
LickTheEnvelope said:
I belive there is also an HTC option for connecting it to HDTV with cable if the TV is not DLNA compatible.
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You sure about that? How? I don't recall it having a video-out port (but I could be wrong)
Pickx said:
You sure about that? How? I don't recall it having a video-out port (but I could be wrong)
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I saw it briefly in the official HTC Desire Z marketing video. Looks like a little hub that changes micro-usb/usb cable to HDMI.
I imagine it's similar to this Samsung Micro USB to HDMI cable:
*can't post link but there is one on the market*
From advertising there's no HDMI output on HTC Vision.. and well, in G2 forums there isn't anyone that claims that Vision has got HDMI output.
DLNA is only a WiFi data sharing program, I've tried it on my old Motorola Milestone and it's really, really useless.
However, I've tried it for sharing with my PC as I haven't got a TV that supports DLNA, so maybe I'm wrong when I say that it's useless, but anyway the last hope is getting TVOut from 3.5mm jack as some phones and cameras can output video signal from there (analog, not HDMI).
I'm running mdeejay's desire z 1.3 rom on my hd2. I have a Samsung 46" C670 series TV. I have the TV wired to my router. When I'm on wifi with the phone I can control the TV through the 'Connected Media' app and view pics, vids, and music.
kholk said:
From advertising there's no HDMI output on HTC Vision.. and well, in G2 forums there isn't anyone that claims that Vision has got HDMI output.
DLNA is only a WiFi data sharing program, I've tried it on my old Motorola Milestone and it's really, really useless.
However, I've tried it for sharing with my PC as I haven't got a TV that supports DLNA, so maybe I'm wrong when I say that it's useless, but anyway the last hope is getting TVOut from 3.5mm jack as some phones and cameras can output video signal from there (analog, not HDMI).
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There's a micro usb to HDMI cable sold by Samsung and I believe HTC has a similar option.
kholk said:
From advertising there's no HDMI output on HTC Vision.. and well, in G2 forums there isn't anyone that claims that Vision has got HDMI output.
DLNA is only a WiFi data sharing program, I've tried it on my old Motorola Milestone and it's really, really useless.
However, I've tried it for sharing with my PC as I haven't got a TV that supports DLNA, so maybe I'm wrong when I say that it's useless, but anyway the last hope is getting TVOut from 3.5mm jack as some phones and cameras can output video signal from there (analog, not HDMI).
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Here is HTC's solution for tv's that dont have dlna or a eithernet port its a dlna wifi adapter . http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htcs-media-link-provides-the-wireless-dlna-support-your-phone-a/
bled82 said:
Here is HTC's solution for tv's that dont have dlna or a eithernet port its a dlna wifi adapter . http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htcs-media-link-provides-the-wireless-dlna-support-your-phone-a/
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There it is! Much appreciated.
here we go - have my Desire Zeee in hands for second day . Regarding dlna:
- watching content from dlna servers (pc, synology disc station) on the phone is there out of the box via "gallery" application where you can choose "connected media" which scans your wifi network and finds compatible sources. Have managed to see photos and play songs, but not video as "format not supported". Anybody know where supported formats can be found?
- watching content on your phone via TV that supports dlna: it not there out of the box, but there are apps that makes phone a "dlna server". Have used "twonky serverver mobile" that seems to be free and do the job, but again: photos and musing from phone on my TV is ok, but not video (at least for me: my TV - Philips...- dlna client does not support 3gp to which Zeee is recording via camera).
I'm guessing most of your videos are downloaded movies in divx or xvid format. The Desire Z does not play these.
The DLNA sharing facility is in the manual so that you can share media off the phone onto a PS3 etc but I haven't got it to work yet...still trying.
I just got it to work with Windows Media Player!!! On the PC, you need to go into Media Player, Stream menu, and tick "Allow remote control of my player". Then go onto phone, All apps, Connected Media, pick Music, then choose your PC name, and it will play on the PC!! And you can control it from the phone!! Awesome. Works with vids and pics too.
AMoosa said:
I'm guessing most of your videos are downloaded movies in divx or xvid format. The Desire Z does not play these.
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You can use the app arcmedia from market to play these.
I've also used the twonky media server app to stream a divx downloaded movie via dlna from the phone to the tv, via a ps3.
Works beautifully.
cool! works for me as well from cell > computer. does it go from computer > cell tho?

Allshare cast using default video player

Hi guys,
Im using the default video player for my vids. There are some videos(Taken on iPhone 4S) which i have stored in my SGS3. They play fine on the device but when i try to stream them to my TV using all share cast i get an error message on my TV(Samsung) saying Codec not available.
Anyone know of all apps I can use to share videos on my TV?
Thanks
I didn't think the AllShare Cast was not available yet.
Ive got a samsung UA46D5000 Led smart Tv. Its got a built in wifi so i don't need the all share dongle. I can stream it directly from my SGS3 to the TV.
elevation_2 said:
Ive got a samsung UA46D5000 Led smart Tv. Its got a built in wifi so i don't need the all share dongle. I can stream it directly from my SGS3 to the TV.
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It’s my understanding that Allshare Cast is not available yet. When it is available there’ll be another option under Settings/Wireless and networks/More settings.
If you want to stream video to your TV then use Settings/Wireless and networks/Nearby devices, this turns the S3 into a DLNA server allowing you to share your media files with your Smart TV.
MaNIaC
MaNIaCv1 said:
It’s my understanding that Allshare Cast is not available yet. When it is available there’ll be another option under Settings/Wireless and networks/More settings.
If you want to stream video to your TV then use Settings/Wireless and networks/Nearby devices, this turns the S3 into a DLNA server allowing you to share your media files with your Smart TV.
MaNIaC
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Hi,
I can stream just fine. The issue is that some formats dont play on the tv. It just says codec not found whereas they play fine on the device itself. Shouldnt it be able to stream any format that can be played on the device?
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elevation_2 said:
Hi,
I can stream just fine. The issue is that some formats dont play on the tv. It just says codec not found whereas they play fine on the device itself. Shouldnt it be able to stream any format that can be played on the device?
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It depends on the TV, the TV needs to have the appropriate codec to play it. They’ve got better over time and my D7000 plays more or less any format I throw at it. I can only assume that your D5000 doesn’t have the required codec. The only alternative would be to transcode the video into one that is supported by your TV.
MaNIac
elevation_2 said:
Hi guys,
Im using the default video player for my vids. There are some videos(Taken on iPhone 4S) which i have stored in my SGS3. They play fine on the device but when i try to stream them to my TV using all share cast i get an error message on my TV(Samsung) saying Codec not available.
Anyone know of all apps I can use to share videos on my TV?
Thanks
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First of all streaming videos to your tv via dlna has nothing to do with all share cast, which means your device's screen will be entirely mirrored on your dlna capable tv (not necessarily samsung), using a certified dongle.
Second, the error message you get is due to the fact that your tv does not have the appropriate codec to play your file (the tv's media player is used for the playback). The exact same error message you will get if you try to play the same file with your tv via a usb flash drive or external hdd using the tv's buit in media player.
protego said:
First of all streaming videos to your tv via dlna has nothing to do with all share cast, which means your device's screen will be entirely mirrored on your dlna capable tv (not necessarily samsung), using a certified dongle.
Second, the error message you get is due to the fact that your tv does not have the appropriate codec to play your file (the tv's media player is used for the playback). The exact same error message you will get if you try to play the same file with your tv via a usb flash drive or external hdd using the tv's buit in media player.
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Thanks for the info. But what is weird is that the videos shot by
s3 are also giving this error. Shouldn't Samsung devices be compatible with each other that way?
protego said:
First of all streaming videos to your tv via dlna has nothing to do with all share cast, which means your device's screen will be entirely mirrored on your dlna capable tv (not necessarily samsung), using a certified dongle.
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The irony is that if Allshare Cast were available now, codec compatibility wouldn’t be a problem, the latest Samsung SmartTV's will just mirror anything the S3 can display without a dongle, and the same with the dongle but the TV only needs an HDMI port, it doesn’t need to be DLNA capable.
kgoel13 said:
Thanks for the info. But what is weird is that the videos shot by
s3 are also giving this error. Shouldn't Samsung devices be compatible with each other that way?
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It would be a bit much to expect a TV made some years ago to be fully compatible with devices made today. Video compression and new codecs are being developed and improved all the time. Having said that it may be worth checking the Samsung support site to make sure you have the latest firmware for your TV.
MaNIaC
kgoel13 said:
Thanks for the info. But what is weird is that the videos shot by
s3 are also giving this error. Shouldn't Samsung devices be compatible with each other that way?
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I must admit, your post frightened me a bit and the first thing I did was to make a short 1080p movie with my SGSIII and stream it to my Samsung LE32C650 tv. Well now I'm ok, since it worked just fine, so you definitely must check to see if you have the latest firmware for your tv. The easiest way to do that is directly from your tv's menu, under Support - Software Upgrade - By Online. Hope this helps.
Thanks for all the info guys.
Well, I just got prompted to update for the dongle software so why don't you give it a try to see if it works with the smart tv, without the actual dongle. I will order the dongle next week, as it sounds much better than the wired microusb to hdmi adapter.
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I tried to send a video I recorded on my S3 to my Samsung UE40D6575 LED Smart-TV. It came up on the tv-screen if I wanted to play the material from I9300, though I was stupid enough to press cancel because my kida wanted to watch television. Now I can't seem to get this to function again. I have deleted the I9300 from the tvs "NO"-list (???), so that shouldn't be a problem.
Does anyone know what I mean, and what can I do about it (if anything)?
Thanks for answering!
I guess restart both the tv and the sgs3
Or go to your wifi and press Forget so it forgets the network and then reconnect.
Both the tv and phone have been restarted several times with no luck
Try reseting your TV.
MaNIaCv1 said:
the latest Samsung SmartTV's will just mirror anything the S3 can display without a dongle, and the same with the dongle but the TV only needs an HDMI port, it doesn’t need to be DLNA capable.
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Is there any info about what Samsung consider 'latest SmartTV'?
Will C series be able to accept Allshare Cast?
Currently on my UE46C8000 I have (under Allshare setup menu) options for 'ScreenShare' (where TV auto-recognized and allowed my 'GT-I9300'. But is ScreenShare same as AllshareCast?
Also, is AllshareCast app already available for S3 (but just not working), or it will be available later on? Since I cant find it on phone, nor on any app store.
gmnenad said:
Is there any info about what Samsung consider 'latest SmartTV'?
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I haven’t found any official info on which TV’s will be supported. So this is pure speculation but I’m guessing that it will support the same TV’s that Samsung Smart View on Play supports, which still isn’t available for the S3 yet.
[Supported Models]
- Samsung Smart TV released in 2011: Models greater or equal to LED 7000, PDP 8000
- Samsung Smart TV released in 2012: Models greater or equal to LED ES7500,(Models greater or equal to LED ES7000 in Europe, Models greater or equal to PDP E8000 Models(E7000 Models in North America)
gmnenad said:
Also, is AllshareCast app already available for S3 (but just not working), or it will be available later on? Since I cant find it on phone, nor on any app store.
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This was posted by lelik11a here
lelik11a said:
Samsung Sweden answered a question about missing allshare cast option on facebook. They said that this option is not activated yet, and will be activated late summer, presumably when dongle will be available.
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protego said:
I must admit, your post frightened me a bit and the first thing I did was to make a short 1080p movie with my SGSIII and stream it to my Samsung LE32C650 tv. Well now I'm ok, since it worked just fine, so you definitely must check to see if you have the latest firmware for your tv. The easiest way to do that is directly from your tv's menu, under Support - Software Upgrade - By Online. Hope this helps.
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Just to back this up, it also works great on my LE46C650 (these are the 2010 series TVs)

[Q] send video to tv

Hi all.
I don't know why this seems to be such a difficult thing to do but I can't seem to get a straight answer.
I have a Galaxy Note 2, my wife has a Sensation XE and we both will soon have Nexus 7 and/or Nexus 10 - possibly. What I want to achieve is a way to send video content including things like netflix from our devices to our TV wirelessly.
I don't want to have seperate receivers etc for each device but I am happy for a software solution if a hardware one is not available.
Thanks
im not sure about netflix and stuff because i don't use it, but when you have any videos theres a button on the top with like a small tv and 3 lines or so all together like a little symbol, your tv provided its a samsung, should be connected on the same wifi as your phone and all you have to do is clack that button and it should work.
As for youtube which is what i sometimes use, i just pair it with the TV and it connects straight away.. really simple
This looks similar to what your after .
http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-wirelessly-stream-android-media-to-an-hdtv-doubletwist-airsync/
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If your tv is not dlna compliant
Yiu had to buy samsung dongle wbich connect to uiur tv and yiu can stream to your tv over wifi
I th8nk its called allshare cast
I use a free app skifta to stream my nas contents to my tv or my phone
Use it via my wd livetv smp to play contents to my tv from my note 2
LLanito said:
im not sure about netflix and stuff because i don't use it, but when you have any videos theres a button on the top with like a small tv and 3 lines or so all together like a little symbol, your tv provided its a samsung, should be connected on the same wifi as your phone and all you have to do is clack that button and it should work.
As for youtube which is what i sometimes use, i just pair it with the TV and it connects straight away.. really simple
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I've tried that with an app called 'Skifta' to a laptop running xbmc (for testing purposes) but it only supports local content and a select few stations/channels of which netflix isn't one. My TV is a 6 year old Bush LCD IDTV so no DLNA
b4d5h0t said:
This looks similar to what your after .
http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-wirelessly-stream-android-media-to-an-hdtv-doubletwist-airsync/
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Looks good except I don't have xbox 360 or PS3
boxer29 said:
If your tv is not dlna compliant
Yiu had to buy samsung dongle wbich connect to uiur tv and yiu can stream to your tv over wifi
I th8nk its called allshare cast
I use a free app skifta to stream my nas contents to my tv or my phone
Use it via my wd livetv smp to play contents to my tv from my note 2
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Does allshare cast work on non-samsung devices? I'll look at WD LiveTV
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I've tried that with an app called 'Skifta' to a laptop running xbmc (for testing purposes) but it only supports local content and a select few stations/channels of which netflix isn't one. My TV is a 6 year old Bush LCD IDTV so no DLNA
Looks good except I don't have xbox 360 or PS3
Does allshare cast work on non-samsung devices? I'll look at WD LiveTV
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yes allshare cast works on older tv which are not smart tv.
if your samsung tv is new it would be dlna or smart tv so you wont need that allshare cast
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yes allshare cast works on older tv which are not smart tv.
if your samsung tv is new it would be dlna or smart tv so you wont need that allshare cast
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Sorry, what I meant was, does allshare cast work with non-samsung phones/tablets (see OP).
I don't have a samsung TV nor can I afford one.
Well, it's a hardware solution, and right now is a lil bit on the pricey side. Gigabyte skyvision ws100.
The advantage, you can use it with whatever devices with hdmi i/o capability. It seems it pretty much works flawlessly and without lag, if I had came across it couple of months before I might have bought one instead a 30m+ HDMI cable than runs from my PC to the TV in the living room. If I had, now I could easily switch between PC (gaming), laptop (movie watching), and now phones (occasional viewing of photos and stuff). And, I could use it to stream av to the projector in our bedroom.... might still consider this Christmas.
Best regards.
The device is called Allshare cast dongle. It works with any TV with HDMI port. Plugs in to the hdmi port and you connects your to galaxy device over "wifi direct" (you dont need a wifi network for this to work). Its not sold in North America (thanks to apple) but is widely available on amazon and ebay for under $100.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Provinomico said:
Well, it's a hardware solution, and right now is a lil bit on the pricey side. Gigabyte skyvision ws100.
The advantage, you can use it with whatever devices with hdmi i/o capability. It seems it pretty much works flawlessly and without lag, if I had came across it couple of months before I might have bought one instead a 30m+ HDMI cable than runs from my PC to the TV in the living room. If I had, now I could easily switch between PC (gaming), laptop (movie watching), and now phones (occasional viewing of photos and stuff). And, I could use it to stream av to the projector in our bedroom.... might still consider this Christmas.
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I shall investigate. The problem with cables however is that the devices have different HDMI outputs (if at all) hence wanting wireless solution.
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The device is called Allshare cast dongle. It works with any TV with HDMI port. Plugs in to the hdmi port and you connects your to galaxy device over "wifi direct" (you dont need a wifi network for this to work). Its not sold in North America (thanks to apple) but is widely available on amazon and ebay for under $100.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
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I'm aware of the allshare dongle but I need it to work with more than samsung devices (see OP)
Would ANYBODY know ?
[/B]Does anybody know if it's possible to mirror the phone onto a smart tv without the use of a dongle????
and i don't mean videos, i mean complete mirroring???[/B]

using galaxy note 8 as an android tv only?

I accidentally sat on my galaxy note 8 yesterday (damn it) and the screen is now broken... i cannot see anything (part of the screen is dark and other part is "scrambled") ... anyway I now want to convert the device into an android tv device as repair will cost too much...problem is I cannot navigate with the device touchscreen as I can't see nothing....
what do i need to completely convert it into an android tv? software, cables, etc... I bought the mhl hdmi cables from ebay but none worked... recommend me the correct cables to buy plz.. thx
You're in a "catch 22" scenario, you could use an OTG cable and a mouse, to enable Bluetooth and pair to a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but you can't see the screen to make the pair and you can't use the MHL cable and the OTG cable together.
You'll be better off getting a new screen off eBay and replacing it yourself.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
no way to "navigate" using adb something like that and set up a bash script that outputs/tv mirroring with mhl?
Replacing the screen seems quite pricey (I am going to use that money to buy a budget chinese dual boot android/win8 tab instead)
As for using it as a TV...
Seems like the stock video player does pass 1080i 30pfs well, all other players paid or not only passes 720p.
As most all streaming services push 720p as High Def, using 1080i would be very rare, and with today's standards to allow Cable to choke our internet. There is a monopoly going on, and if it were the 70's Comcast and Verizon would be heading to court just like AT&T.
You can get a MHL HDMI adapter, and use it to use a TV to connect. I have a Samsung TV, so Anynet+ will automatically turn on the TV and switch to the input when connected to the tablet.
All you need to do, is make sure the MHL HDMI adapter is connected to the USB power before connecting to the tablet. You can either plug in the MHL adapter before powering on the tablet or plug in once the tablet has been booted up. If plugging in while off, give it a few minutes to display on the TV.
The nice thing is that the adapter will work without need of any settings changes. I use Miracast as it does not need cables and works a wee better. Though many complain about how it functions, i think it is because of modded ROMs and the lack that they do not use Samsung's update to fully optimize the workings of their tablets.
If using Miracast, you will need a MHL adapter to configure the tablet for syncing... once configured you wont need to connect the MHL adapter. Though if any Miracast settings get changed your not going to be able connect and use your tv, since your tablet's display is broken.
I prefer a stock ROM, as it is fully working, and don't having to fix what others break.
thx for the reply but the problem is I cannot use the screen as it's broken... any ideas are welcome
ok guys some progress!
using
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ and http://www.mymobiler.com/
I am able to control my galaxy note 8 from pc now with a usb connection
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ is straightforward but it is very slow and could not get keyboard and mouse to work. I used it to install mymobiler app and grant root access to it... with mymobiler, i can use mouse and keyboard and it is faster but still lags... if anyone knows better/lagless screen mirroring app, let me know.
Now, next step is to connect physical bluetooth mouse and keyboard and hdmi so that i can use it as an android desktop/tv pc
ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
yeahman45 said:
ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
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where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
yeahman45 said:
thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
yeahman45 said:
thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
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Yes it will work on any Monitor with HDMI.
Just TV was on the top of my head when making a quick setup.
it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
yeahman45 said:
it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
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Depending on Monitor settings, some will auto fit or allow for edge to edge adjustment.
Also if using video player, the Samsung video player does do edge to edge, while MXplayer will not through MHL. I gave up on Per App settings in Xposed, before I could ascertain that MXplayer will do edge to edge with H/W or Software decoder.
One thing with SecondScreen, it may adjust for proper scaling with Monitors, though with my TV the built in PC input scales to have a boarder to compensate for the 5% overscan most all TVs use to keep encoded signals from showing at the edges.
Not all Monitors and TVs are perfect, but I am able to use edge to edge with some adjustment with the display or using a 3rd party app such as secondscreen.
what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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Well the other option is to connect your tablet to your A/V receiver and pass the video to your monitor, or to get a signal splitter that will allow audio output. Depending on the quality and performance they can run as low as $20 and up to $150 so in some ways it is best to get an A/V receiver. If your A/V receiver is limited by inputs BlueJean cable has various HDMI switchers.
I have the link to the free app a few posts above this... just read the pages back till you find it. I am running the paid version so updates may be faster and better than the freebie. I went a head and updated to 1.4.5 just to see how much of a problem it is as for workarounds with Touchwiz. I still prefer 1.4.4 as it seems smoother at transitions between on and off / off and on. May revert back and just keep the old version as it does its job very well in automatic mode.
I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
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I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
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One note about secondscreen... it will shrink the display to have borders. Some TV / Monitors have zoom or scan adjustments to remove most of the borders.
Here is the link for the free version... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free

Chromecast Audio

I tried looking up this device on xda, but nothing yet, so i thought i'd post here first.
since it uses an audio jack, do you guys think you could plug this into your cars aux port, and stream using your phone? or is it dependent on wifi only?
It is wifi, not bluetooth. Might work in guest mode. I'm very interested in the device, but want to use if for DLNA streaming from my home server if at all possible.
Hi,
It also has dual output connector: analog 3.5 jack and optical spdif... equal to Apple Airport Express.
Anybody see if it has native FLAC support? I haven't found an answer to that yet. This may be a device I just have to buy and try...
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Anybody see if it has native FLAC support? I haven't found an answer to that yet. This may be a device I just have to buy and try...
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Yeah I'm still waiting for an answer as to if it supports 320kbps for high quality streaming from spotify. That would be the main advantage of it over a bluetooth receiver.
I'd love to know if it does support that if anyone can find out!
FLAC is listed as supported media for google cast, so it SHOULD work.
https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/media
does anybody have any idea if Chromecast Audio would work as a car audio solution? I tried using a 1st Gen Chromecast but ran into the issue of the device's requiring an actual internet connection (not simply a wifi connection). My guess is that Chromecast Audio will similarly require an internet connection, but am wondering if there is a workaround?
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does anybody have any idea if Chromecast Audio would work as a car audio solution? I tried using a 1st Gen Chromecast but ran into the issue of the device's requiring an actual internet connection (not simply a wifi connection). My guess is that Chromecast Audio will similarly require an internet connection, but am wondering if there is a workaround?
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A lot of talk, no conclusion about this yet. Some suggest tethering the phone should work. I've got one on order, should know next week.
cool, let us know! =]
I am working on getting mine to work in my car today. I bought it yesterday and didn't have much time to mess with it. I had it working as I tethered through my phone and using my gfs phone to play music but I'm going to see if I can get it to work without tether.
Got it working but not perfect
So the main thing is IT WORKS!!
Its just buggy getting it started but after that it plays fine for the whole ride. Here is what I did (notice: must have working tether on your phone to get it to work)
I am running a nexus 6 with Chroma ROM. Also I'm using Spotify to play my music.
Steps I did to try to get it working.
1. I first went through the setup process on my gf galaxy s5 and updated the chromecast through my tether.
2. I hooked everything up in my car.
3. Turned on my phones WiFi and press the button on the Chromecast first and then connect to the WiFi that my Chromecast gives out.
4. Then open the Chromecast app and make sure it sees it. (Mine still says it needs to be setup even though it already is. Don't worry about that)
5. Open Spotify and in the devices area it should say nearby cast or something like that. Try to connect and it will ask for a pin. Ignore that and hit cancel.
6. Then turn on your hotspot on your phone. It will then show your Chromecast name correctly in Spotify and you can connect and play music. (Must leave your tether on)
All in all I got it working without having a separate wireless connection to connect both of them and have audio playing through my car audio. I tried it twice now and it has worked.
Also the Chromecast app will not show its connected even though you're playing music through it. I have a screenshot of it at the bottom.
Nice - I have a ground-loop issue in my car and can't charge my phone the same time it is plugged into the stereo - this might solve that. I'm using mine to add streaming to a bedroom system, but if I like it, I may replace the streamer box on the home stereo, which cuts out on FLAC from time to time.
UPDATE: you do not have to go through all those steps everytime. I've tested further and found that it is much easier.
After you already have it setup in your car, to connect do these steps:
1. Turn on your phones WiFi and connect to your Chromecast audio.
2.After a few seconds turn your hotspot on(do not turn off the WiFi at any time).
3. After a few seconds Spotify will see your device and work perfectly.
OK,
I have had my Chromecast Audio working for the last day. I am using it with BubbleUpNP to stream audio of of my DLNA server on my home network. Working well, more reliable than the Soundmate that I was using. Going to order a micro-toslink SPDIF cable to use my on DAC. It isn't a DLNA renderer, so it won't work with software that is expecting UPNP/DLNA, but BubbleUpNP is working well.
I got one of these today, and the Hardware is really nice. It has a decent DAC, good WiFi, Dual (Analogue, Optical) output, so all good on that front. It also plays 24bit 192K FLAC from Qobuz without trouble. You should however make sure to turn the "High Dynamic Range" setting on in the CC app!
However, I don't like the way it's handled. I'm used to running Logitech Media Server with am Odroid U3 as Server and a couple of Raspberry Pi units with Hifiberry DAC/Digi/Amp addon boards, and with that setup starting music in the mornings is easy. I turn on the power, and that's it, after the Pi has booted, the music starts playing, choosing the last Playlist or Webradio Station I used when I turned it off. No need to even touch my phone.
With Chromecast I have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually get it playing any music, and that's it's biggest failure IMHO. It won't automatically reconnect, it won't resume playing where it left off, it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
This is a huge waste of potential! Sadly, I cannot use this neat piece of Hardware with Logitech Media Server, because it doesn't work as a DLNA Renderer, and LMS can't cast to Chromecast (since that only works from Android/iOS/Chrome OS).
So, while this COULD be great, it's currently badly underachieving. Maybe someone will work out a way to fix this by rooting CC and installing Squeezelite on it, of by some other means. There is always hope!
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I got one of these today, and the Hardware is really nice. It has a decent DAC, good WiFi, Dual (Analogue, Optical) output, so all good on that front. It also plays 24bit 192K FLAC from Qobuz without trouble. You should however make sure to turn the "High Dynamic Range" setting on in the CC app!
However, I don't like the way it's handled. I'm used to running Logitech Media Server with am Odroid U3 as Server and a couple of Raspberry Pi units with Hifiberry DAC/Digi/Amp addon boards, and with that setup starting music in the mornings is easy. I turn on the power, and that's it, after the Pi has booted, the music starts playing, choosing the last Playlist or Webradio Station I used when I turned it off. No need to even touch my phone.
With Chromecast I have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually get it playing any music, and that's it's biggest failure IMHO. It won't automatically reconnect, it won't resume playing where it left off, it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
This is a huge waste of potential! Sadly, I cannot use this neat piece of Hardware with Logitech Media Server, because it doesn't work as a DLNA Renderer, and LMS can't cast to Chromecast (since that only works from Android/iOS/Chrome OS).
So, while this COULD be great, it's currently badly underachieving. Maybe someone will work out a way to fix this by rooting CC and installing Squeezelite on it, of by some other means. There is always hope!
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You can use it with your DLNA server, but you need to manage the Chromecast with BubbleUpNP on your phone. Not perfect, but more stable than the renderer that I was using.
I got mine yesterday and I must say that I am very happy with it. One thing though, when I play music via YouTube (via casting screen/audio in the CC app) the sound volume is really low. It is much higher when I play music via Spotify. Is there a way to boost the output from the phone? I tried the hardware buttons of course
Workaround for the Volume being too low: Use a cast-native app like Spotify to crank up the Volume.
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it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
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Yes, I see your point, but IMHO it's more than just a WiFi equivalent of a BT adaptor because, whilst you CAN stream from your device/locally with the right app, most "standard/consumer" use cases have the Chromecast streaming content direct from the Internet which is controlled by the app in your device. Your device doesn't do the streaming, saving power, you don't have to stay in range, etc. If I start steaming using Spotify as the app, for example, the Chromecast will continue playing my playlist even if I close Spotify on my device.
True. However, it still lacks a lot of features other multiroom systems offer. This little dingle has loads of potential, but Google will have to work hard to make it shine...

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