When using Bluetooth (LG tone) for audio, I am having problems with audio/video syncing on some apps i.e. Netflix. The audio lags the video stream by sometimes half a sec which makes the whole experience terrible. I tried different Bluetooth headsets and the problem is still there. When I use wired headphones the problem is gone.
I have read a few threads and this is a problem that exists in a variety of android devices (phones, tablets of different models/manufacturers). It also manifests itself in other video apps.
I did not see any solution to this but maybe I am missing something.
I guess I am wondering If anyone could verify this with their tablet.
Also, can anyone shed some light as to why this is happening?
Does anyone know of a solution?
Thanks!
Bluetooth in general is... Laggy. That's why, for example, PS3 Sony wireless headphones aren't bluetooth. In the case that you're only listening to music it's ok but for watching a video I would only use wired headphones or non-bluetooth wireless ones. Bluetooth is still evolving, for the best connection and audio quality you want to be wired. Remember that the less steps on the chain the better, qualitywise and "lagwise".
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spky818 said:
When using Bluetooth (LG tone) for audio, I am having problems with audio/video syncing on some apps i.e. Netflix. The audio lags the video stream by sometimes half a sec which makes the whole experience terrible. I tried different Bluetooth headsets and the problem is still there. When I use wired headphones the problem is gone.
I have read a few threads and this is a problem that exists in a variety of android devices (phones, tablets of different models/manufacturers). It also manifests itself in other video apps.
I did not see any solution to this but maybe I am missing something.
I guess I am wondering If anyone could verify this with their tablet.
Also, can anyone shed some light as to why this is happening?
Does anyone know of a solution?
Thanks!
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Use DICE player for local files as for Netflix I don't know . Dice player is free and perfect for any video files .
Yeah unfortunatly bluetooth is laggy on all devices. Lags on my S3 and Laptop and when I had an iPhone it was the same out of sync experiance. So in the end i just used it for listening to music and tbh they were great for that.
Will be class whenever they no longer have lag.. will happily pay some good money for some.
That's right but the problem aren't the headphones/devices, the problem is the bluetooth itself, the way it processes the data makes it laggy for real time stuff..
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Geordie Affy said:
Yeah unfortunatly bluetooth is laggy on all devices. Lags on my S3 and Laptop and when I had an iPhone it was the same out of sync experiance. So in the end i just used it for listening to music and tbh they were great for that.
Will be class whenever they no longer have lag.. will happily pay some good money for some.
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Same here. Thanks for your response. I understand that the bluetooth protocol is not meant for watching video but I don't understand why I can play the same movie on Netflix on my transformer prime tablet with the same bluetooth headset and have zero lag in sound. Same goes for my Nexus4 and yet I can't get it work properly on this tablet.
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Same here. Thanks for your response. I understand that the bluetooth protocol is not meant for watching video but I don't understand why I can play the same movie on Netflix on my transformer prime tablet with the same bluetooth headset and have zero lag in sound. Same goes for my Nexus4 and yet I can't get it work properly on this tablet.
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mmmm that is very very odd.
AHHHH I have just thought about this...What if you make the audio play a few milliseconds before the video or something maybe that could work....well it seems to work in my head haha, I dont have a Note 10.1 yet or even my Bluetooth headset with me otherwise I'd give it a go on my laptop.
Interesting... The note 2014 has bluetooth 4.0 which is the newest out there, hopefully a future firmware update will fix that...? (or maybe a Netflix update). Remember the note still has some flaws here and there. If you have NO lag in your transformer there should be a fix for that in ours... (more than no lag, synced correctly).
I know this isn't the answer you want, just my thoughts.
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No Bluetooth isn't laggy by itself, that's ridiculous. What you're experiencing is caused by interference. The main culprit is usually Wi-Fi
My Sony Bluetooth Headphones don't lag one bit on any device. But one time while I had it on, playing the PS3 (with the Bluetooth controller) and connected to the internet via Wifi, I was experiencing audio lag. I turned off the wi-fi and went hardwired and the lag disappeared.
Try listening to you headphones via bluetooth on this device. But shut off wifi and listen to something that's on the storage. Tell me if it lags. If it doesn't then you'll know it's the wifi that's interfering and maybe we can remedy the situation by switching what channel you router uses for it's wifi signal so it doesn't interfere with whatever channel the Bluetooth is using.
Don't automatically assume that Bluetooth is laggy by nature and that's that. That's nonsense.
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Bluetooth in general is... Laggy. That's why, for example, PS3 Sony wireless headphones aren't bluetooth. In the case that you're only listening to music it's ok but for watching a video I would only use wired headphones or non-bluetooth wireless ones. Bluetooth is still evolving, for the best connection and audio quality you want to be wired. Remember that the less steps on the chain the better, qualitywise and "lagwise".
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Every Sony PS3 headset is Bluetooth. Where do you guys get this misinformation that they avoid it? The only way Bluetooth will lag is if your headphones are using an old, slow profile or you're trying to pass heavy content over Bluetooth (and I mean HEAVY high quality content) or your environment is littered with interference.
You think my Sony MDR1RB, a $400 pair of cans, is a laggy by nature? No. Who would pay $400 for that? Why would Sony even make that?
And the Sony MDR1RB isn't even Bluetooth 4.0 it's 2.1
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No Bluetooth isn't laggy by itself, that's ridiculous. What you're experiencing is caused by interference. The main culprit is usually Wi-Fi
My Sony Bluetooth Headphones don't lag one bit on any device. But one time while I had it on, playing the PS3 (with the Bluetooth controller) and connected to the internet via Wifi, I was experiencing audio lag. I turned off the wi-fi and went hardwired and the lag disappeared.
Try listening to you headphones via bluetooth on this device. But shut off wifi and listen to something that's on the storage. Tell me if it lags. If it doesn't then you'll know it's the wifi that's interfering and maybe we can remedy the situation by switching what channel you router uses for it's wifi signal so it doesn't interfere with whatever channel the Bluetooth is using.
Don't automatically assume that Bluetooth is laggy by nature and that's that. That's nonsense.
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Every Sony PS3 headset is Bluetooth. Where do you guys get this misinformation that they avoid it? The only way Bluetooth will lag is if your headphones are using an old, slow profile or you're trying to pass heavy content over Bluetooth (and I mean HEAVY high quality content) or your environment is littered with interference.
You think my Sony MDR1RB, a $400 pair of cans, is a laggy by nature? No. Who would pay $400 for that? Why would Sony even make that?
And the Sony MDR1RB isn't even Bluetooth 4.0 it's 2.1
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That was my initial thought. This is why I am using the 5GHz WiFi band since Bluetooth sits at 2.4GHz (same out of sync result). Also some streaming apps have no problem with audio sync i.e. Youtube, streaming from local NAS video and even streaming from Slingbox. I find it tough to swallow that it is a problem with the Bluetooth headphones since they actually work perfectly on my TF201 and Nexus4.
I think it is the actual implementation of the Bluetooth stack on the tablet that is at fault.
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That was my initial thought. This is why I am using the 5GHz WiFi band since Bluetooth sits at 2.4GHz (same out of sync result). Also some streaming apps have no problem with audio sync i.e. Youtube, streaming from local NAS video and even streaming from Slingbox. I find it tough to swallow that it is a problem with the Bluetooth headphones since they actually work perfectly on my TF201 and Nexus4.
I think it is the actual implementation of the Bluetooth stack on the tablet that is at fault.
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How you tried switching your wifi channel? There is an app on the Play store that scans your environment and shows you which channels are most congested. Search "wifi channel" and see which one looks best, I'm sure there are multiple ones.
As far as the implementation of the Bluetooth stack being at fault, if that was so, then wouldn't my Sony's lag as well? But the don't
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How you tried switching your wifi channel? There is an app on the Play store that scans your environment and shows you which channels are most congested. Search "wifi channel" and see which one looks best, I'm sure there are multiple ones.
As far as the implementation of the Bluetooth stack being at fault, if that was so, then wouldn't my Sony's lag as well? But the don't
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Thanks for your response. This is actually really good info. Your Sony works with Netflix streaming with no lag issues on this Note??? If so maybe it is worth for me buying and trying one.
As far as the channel scanner, I used it and tried a few channels for my WiFi with no improvement. The higher end of the band i.e. ch11 is very clean. Anyway, I ended up going to 5GHz to at least ensure that there is no interference with the Bluetooth coming from my Wifi system.
Apologies on wrong info @spky818 but I could only go on what I have experienced with Bluetooth ... If what VDC530 says is true then I think I'll invest in some good quality BT headphones aswell...Hate wires haha.
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Apologies on wrong info @spky818 but I could only go on what I have experienced with Bluetooth ... If what VDC530 says is true then I think I'll invest in some good quality BT headphones aswell...Hate wires haha.
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No worries. Thanks for taking the time to comment to begin with. Hate those wires too so if better headsets do the trick then I am all for it too.
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Sorry but I'll have to disagree with vdc530, I'm not trying to be disrespectful or start a controversy here, but you are assuming that I'm assuming things. In my experience with bluetooth I found it most of the times laggy, that's why I said "in general", that doesn't mean "everything", (obviously because I don't have every single device/configuration). If you didn't have mayor lags so far or you found a way around it that's great and I mean it, and great you share it.
Not every Sony Headset/phones are bluetooth, http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Stereo-Headset-Playstation-3/dp/B0053OLY9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384458305&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+ps3+headphones , That's the one I was talking about, and I was assuming (I'm human) that Sony didn't make it bluetooth because it would overload the bluetooth on the PS3, that makes sense to me according to my bluetooth experience, and yes I can be wrong on that. Anyway at the end that's out of the main point here, so I don't want to expand on that.
I wouldn't say "nonsense" to something someone says, even if I know everything there is to be known about this or that matter, we can strongly disagree, explain our points and/or correct someone in a more polite way.
That's the beauty of a forum, I always make sure to specify if it's my knowledge, my thoughts or an assumption, i apologize if I didn't.
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I know it doesn't help with Netflix but I use BS player which has an audio offset option to synch the audio.
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I know it doesn't help with Netflix but I use BS player which has an audio offset option to synch the audio.
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Works good. Dice Player also allows for audio syncing. It's what I use, when I stream via bluetooth.
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No Bluetooth isn't laggy by itself, that's ridiculous. What you're experiencing is caused by interference. The main culprit is usually Wi-Fi
My Sony Bluetooth Headphones don't lag one bit on any device. But one time while I had it on, playing the PS3 (with the Bluetooth controller) and connected to the internet via Wifi, I was experiencing audio lag. I turned off the wi-fi and went hardwired and the lag disappeared.
Try listening to you headphones via bluetooth on this device. But shut off wifi and listen to something that's on the storage. Tell me if it lags. If it doesn't then you'll know it's the wifi that's interfering and maybe we can remedy the situation by switching what channel you router uses for it's wifi signal so it doesn't interfere with whatever channel the Bluetooth is using.
Don't automatically assume that Bluetooth is laggy by nature and that's that. That's nonsense.
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No worries. Thanks for taking the time to comment to begin with. Hate those wires too so if better headsets do the trick then I am all for it too.
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Update:
So I fished out my old Bluetooth Headset (Sony DR-BT22) that I bought back in 2009 for a mere £20 on a clearance sale, these headphones were the reason I said all Bluetooth lags since I tested it on a multiple different devices (S3, Iphone 3G and Laptop).....anyways so I decided to test them on the Note 10.1 just to test something I already know and that I need to invest in some expensive £70 ($110) Bluetooth headphones I have seen.
To my shock there is no lag whatsoever when using the DR-BT22 via Youtube or even while playing a video stored on the Note 10.1...AWESOME
I really have no idea why it works on my Note efficiently yet doesn't on other devices but I no longer care - I now have Wireless headphones for my Note 10.1 that I didn't even know worked haha. I always loved the foldaway design of these headphones and now I can actually utilise this on my travels.
Thanks vdc530 and spky818 I wouldn't have bothered trying my old ones if it wasn't for yous - saved myself some canny dosh :good:
I was watching BS player yesterday with wired headphones and I had lag in the audio caused by fast forwarding. The only way to get rid was to close the player and reload the movie after which it was perfect.
So is it Bluetooth or the player or a combination?
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Update:
So I fished out my old Bluetooth Headset (Sony DR-T22) that I bought back in 2009 for a mere £20 on a clearance sale, these headphones were the reason I said all Bluetooth lags since I tested it on a multiple different devices (S3, Iphone 3G and Laptop).....anyways so I decided to test them on the Note 10.1 just to test something I already know and that I need to invest in some expensive £70 ($110) Bluetooth headphones I have seen.
To my shock there is no lag whatsoever when using the DR-T22 via Youtube or even while playing a video stored on the Note 10.1...AWESOME
I really have no idea why it works on my Note efficiently yet doesn't on other devices but I no longer care - I now have Wireless headphones for my Note 10.1 that I didn't even know worked haha. I always loved the foldaway design of these headphones and now I can actually utilise this on my travels.
Thanks vdc530 and spky818 I wouldn't have bothered trying my old ones if it wasn't for yous - saved myself some canny dosh :good:
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I am having audio lag with a nexus 10 I just received using bluetooth, and actually have an old pair of sony dr-bt22s in the shed, just got them out and charging, hope this works for me as well!
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Hi, I'm looking for a way to stream all pc audio to my android phone. The idea is to use the android phone as wireless headphones.
This would probably involve some sort of client server setup similar to Gmote, or what the winamp app does. However I only want audio, so that I can play Video on my TV and listen via wifi on my headphones through my android (HTC Desire).
I've searched the forums, and have only found a few similar questions but no solutions. Its my opinion that this would be an excellent app, if a developer would pick up on it.
I have looked at virtual audio cable as a possible solution - unfortunately I don't have the tech know-how to acheive this. Possibly the audio could be grabbed by VAC and input into Winamp (e.g.) and then streamed via winamp to my phone?
.... any ideas.
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Hi, I'm looking for a way to stream all pc audio to my android phone. The idea is to use the android phone as wireless headphones.
This would probably involve some sort of client server setup similar to Gmote, or what the winamp app does. However I only want audio, so that I can play Video on my TV and listen via wifi on my headphones through my android (HTC Desire).
I've searched the forums, and have only found a few similar questions but no solutions. Its my opinion that this would be an excellent app, if a developer would pick up on it.
I have looked at virtual audio cable as a possible solution - unfortunately I don't have the tech know-how to acheive this. Possibly the audio could be grabbed by VAC and input into Winamp (e.g.) and then streamed via winamp to my phone?
.... any ideas.
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wrong forum mate
Oi, I guess this should go in the general android dev?
My bad.
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Oi, I guess this should go in the general android dev?
My bad.
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it shoud go to Desire Q&A
im also searching for an app like that. Ive been looking for that the whole web but didnt find anything, just other people aksing for the same thing. there are apps for iphone called Airphones and AudioIn that do exactly that. isnt anyone able to port that or something ? would be of so much use :/
Not sure but I believe the SE MW600 headphones can pair two devices simultaneously. Can anyone confirm? I can check in a couple of days...
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im also searching for an app like that. Ive been looking for that the whole web but didnt find anything, just other people aksing for the same thing. there are apps for iphone called Airphones and AudioIn that do exactly that. isnt anyone able to port that or something ? would be of so much use :/
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Looking in to writing an one from the ground up. problem is I'll have to do a lot of studying to learn the languages.
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@eKeith I have the SE MW600 headphones they can be used to pair up to 3 devices simultaneously (multipoint technology).
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These are then just wireless headphones? The idea is to be able to use wired headphones wirelessly, by stalin audio over wifi to our phones.
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@eKeith I have the SE MW600 headphones they can be used to pair up to 3 devices simultaneously (multipoint technology).
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I was also looking for something like this. Currently the Desire comes with a Bluetooth profile to do the opposite - that is direct all phone output to elsewhere e.g. laptop, but it'd be great for the other way around!
Thanks MasDroid. I have a pair also but not with me on my long weekend vacation...
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OK, then you want to do more than "use the Android phone as wireless headphones" as per your first post. You want your phone to receive the audio in order to process it? If so, can you clarify? Sounds interesting and potentially useful.
Will VLC serve your purpose? You can setup a VLC http server on your PC and you can browse your PC files from your phone VLC app. Not sure but maybe, on the PC, you can direct all audio to a filestream. Anyone?
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These are then just wireless headphones? The idea is to be able to use wired headphones wirelessly, by stalin audio over wifi to our phones.
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no no...
we are thinking of an app that streams whatever sound is coming from the pc to the android phone. me for example i control my pc with the phone via gremote when im laying on my bed. and because the cable of my wired headphones are too short i cannot listen to videos and movies without disturbing the ppl at night. so such "active" apps like the one with vlc and so on isn't really what (at least) im looking for. it should be passive and just stream the whole audio.
i hope u understand
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spinhead said:
no no...
we are thinking of an app that streams whatever sound is coming from the pc to the android phone. me for example i control my pc with the phone via gremote when im laying on my bed. and because the cable of my wired headphones are too short i cannot listen to videos and movies without disturbing the ppl at night. so such "active" apps like the one with vlc and so on isn't really what (at least) im looking for. it should be passive and just stream the whole audio.
i hope u understand
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Yup. I want a wireless output port for all audio on a pc, so that I may receive all audio on my android over wifi.
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spinhead said:
no no...
we are thinking of an app that streams whatever sound is coming from the pc to the android phone. me for example i control my pc with the phone via gremote when im laying on my bed. and because the cable of my wired headphones are too short i cannot listen to videos and movies without disturbing the ppl at night. so such "active" apps like the one with vlc and so on isn't really what (at least) im looking for. it should be passive and just stream the whole audio.
i hope u understand
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plz first read and then write..
isnt there anything so far? :s
someone maybe knows when jamcast for android will be released? they will support streaming audio via wifi
Nope.
Good to know about jamcast.
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Pretty sure gmote can stream music to your phone. There is a little check box to say weather it's phone controlling media player on your pc, or pc streaming media to your phone. Use it when I'm doing gardening so I have access to all 200Gb of my music.
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Pretty sure gmote can stream music to your phone. There is a little check box to say weather it's phone controlling media player on your pc, or pc streaming media to your phone. Use it when I'm doing gardening so I have access to all 200Gb of my music.
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Gmote is not a solution. read the first few posts. play video on your pc and stream audio of the same video to your phone.
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Hi!
Is it possible to use the (unrooted) AFTV as a Bluetooth Audio Speaker?
I want to connect my Smartphone, to play my music on my home cinema System, which is plugged into the AFTV.
Thanks in advance
ChelseaSmile
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Hi!
Is it possible to use the (unrooted) AFTV as a Bluetooth Audio Speaker?
I want to connect my Smartphone, to play my music on my home cinema System, which is plugged into the AFTV.
Thanks in advance
ChelseaSmile
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it's easier to use bubbleupnp or some other UPnP through XBMC. Right now Bluetooth audio is not working very well on the firetv.
I would be very interested in the same solution as well. My Fire TV is hooked up to my stereo as well. The huge disadvantage of UPnP is, that it is not as easy to use as bluetooth. Often I'm having friends over and we play music from different sources such as Spotify, Youtube, streams from websites etc. With bluetooth I can just connect my tablet and everything is working.
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I would be very interested in the same solution as well. My Fire TV is hooked up to my stereo as well. The huge disadvantage of UPnP is, that it is not as easy to use as bluetooth. Often I'm having friends over and we play music from different sources such as Spotify, Youtube, streams from websites etc. With bluetooth I can just connect my tablet and everything is working.
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Dito!
That's exactly the reason why I explicitely asked for bluetooth support and not for streaming in general. Anyone here with a more useful idea?
@t3ch42: You wrote "...Bluetooth audio is not working very well ...". So can you please tell me how to setup this "not working very well" configuration? I think it would be better than nothing.
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Dito!
That's exactly the reason why I explicitely asked for bluetooth support and not for streaming in general. Anyone here with a more useful idea?
@t3ch42: You wrote "...Bluetooth audio is not working very well ...". So can you please tell me how to setup this "not working very well" configuration? I think it would be better than nothing.
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Wow could you be more of a **** about it.
To elaborate a little more, to setup the not working well config, you would use a bluetooth receiver and use an android settings apk sideloaded and connect. None of the bluerooth devices so far that need a code to connect will connect yet. But with a standard bluetooth reciever, you get a lag. Somewhere between 3/10 and 4/10 of a second usually. But thats not what you're after is it?
As far as using the firetv as a bt receiver; not supported. I would hope that this is not the case forever. I'd love to use my phone or the firerv as a bt receiver too. But the particular protocol is not supported right now.
So you see, bluetooth audio is not working very well. And not at all in the manner in which you inquired about. So, for streaming using bt, i'd suggest going to amazon and purchasing a bt receiver for about 7dollars delivered.
Since you don't seem to want to use upnp, that's your best option.
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hi all this is what I've notice installed new update bluetooth headset was working fine i then zero cache aftv now 1 sec delay
couldn't find a fix so factory reset aftv setup bluetooth again now working
zero cached again now delay back again
so all with this problem have you zero cache your aftv I'm not gonna reset as I've to many add ons to try and remember to install
if someone could look into that side and maybe find a fix
I prefer watching things with headphones rather than using tv speakers so I can watch what I want when I want without disturbing anyone and I'd rather not have to get one of those rf headphones just for this. ..can't anyway my LG tv doesn't have headhone jack ..I was able to set up bluetooth on Aftv box ..has 4.0 useing the settings apk..
Do we need a settings.apk thats 3.0 BT compatible?..When I tried with settings.apk on fire tv stick I could manually connect but thats all ,no sound to headphones.
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I prefer watching things with headphones rather than using tv speakers so I can watch what I want when I want without disturbing anyone and I'd rather not have to get one of those rf headphones just for this. ..can't anyway my LG tv doesn't have headhone jack ..I was able to set up bluetooth on Aftv box ..has 4.0 useing the settings apk..
Do we need a settings.apk thats 3.0 BT compatible?..When I tried with settings.apk on fire tv stick I could manually connect but thats all ,no sound to headphones.
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I tried it awhile back with aftv and couldn't connect with my BT speaker or headphone. Not sure why it's an issue because it supports some 3rd part BT game pads. Hopefully you find a solution or maybe it's already been answered??? I kind of moved on but this is a nice feature and aftv should support it. You could try Amazon tech support.
Just wondering if there are any new success story for listening to FireTV Stick audio on their Bluetooth headphones.
I was about to order a new Bluetooth headphones, glad I look here because the FTV Stick doesn't seem to be working with any Bluetooth headphones even with Settings.apk installed.
I will hold off on my Bluetooth headphone order for now...
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Just wondering if there are any new success story for listening to FireTV Stick audio on their Bluetooth headphones.
I was about to order a new Bluetooth headphones, glad I look here because the FTV Stick doesn't seem to be working with any Bluetooth headphones even with Settings.apk installed.
I will hold off on my Bluetooth headphone order for now...
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This topic comes up often and the consensus is you can get it to work, but it's more trouble than it's worth because the audio is out of sync with the video. Even if you add a delay (for example, via Kodi's options) and get things synced, they eventually go out of sync again because the amount they're out of sync is not constant.
I haven't tried this myself. This is just information that I've read from other people's experience.
I got my BT speakers working with the settings.apk but alas it was out of sync.
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This topic comes up often and the consensus is you can get it to work, but it's more trouble than it's worth because the audio is out of sync with the video. Even if you add a delay (for example, via Kodi's options) and get things synced, they eventually go out of sync again because the amount they're out of sync is not constant.
I haven't tried this myself. This is just information that I've read from other people's experience.
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I believe this is the case with the aftv. I believe with the aftv stick you are unable to even get that much (no audio at all). At least that had been my experience.
Any new update on this ? Just bought a FireTVStick and didn't know bluetooth headphone is not supported.
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Any new update on this ? Just bought a FireTVStick and didn't know bluetooth headphone is not supported.
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it does out of the box with the latest update. I have a few issues but generally it works pretty good.
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it does out of the box with the latest update. I have a few issues but generally it works pretty good.
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it doesn't work for me.. are you talking about the box or stick? IF you are talking about the stick .. how did you do it?
apologies SptMogul, I mean the box. I read too quickly and didn't pick up that you mention the stick.
Any idea if this works with the FireOS5 Beta (Android 5.1)?
I was able to pair my bluetooth headphones to my AFS but no audio from video would play. Even got the confirmation of a successful connection.
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I was able to pair my bluetooth headphones to my AFS but no audio from video would play. Even got the confirmation of a successful connection.
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Was this with FireOS 5?
Does FireOS 5 offer an option to pair bluetooth headphones, as FireOS 4 does not, and people have to use "hacks".
The firmware version on my AFS is 54.123
I paired the headphones using the setting hack and from the main settings menu. Both times, I got a message saying that audio should be working and that might headphones are connected. however, no audio gets played.
Problem might be my bluetooth headphones-the brand is Maze Exclusive. it might be sending "phone audio" but not "music" audio. i get a message like that on my cell phone when pairing this headphone to it on occasion and can;t hear audio from music.
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I tried looking up this device on xda, but nothing yet, so i thought i'd post here first.
since it uses an audio jack, do you guys think you could plug this into your cars aux port, and stream using your phone? or is it dependent on wifi only?
It is wifi, not bluetooth. Might work in guest mode. I'm very interested in the device, but want to use if for DLNA streaming from my home server if at all possible.
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It also has dual output connector: analog 3.5 jack and optical spdif... equal to Apple Airport Express.
Anybody see if it has native FLAC support? I haven't found an answer to that yet. This may be a device I just have to buy and try...
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Anybody see if it has native FLAC support? I haven't found an answer to that yet. This may be a device I just have to buy and try...
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Yeah I'm still waiting for an answer as to if it supports 320kbps for high quality streaming from spotify. That would be the main advantage of it over a bluetooth receiver.
I'd love to know if it does support that if anyone can find out!
FLAC is listed as supported media for google cast, so it SHOULD work.
https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/media
does anybody have any idea if Chromecast Audio would work as a car audio solution? I tried using a 1st Gen Chromecast but ran into the issue of the device's requiring an actual internet connection (not simply a wifi connection). My guess is that Chromecast Audio will similarly require an internet connection, but am wondering if there is a workaround?
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does anybody have any idea if Chromecast Audio would work as a car audio solution? I tried using a 1st Gen Chromecast but ran into the issue of the device's requiring an actual internet connection (not simply a wifi connection). My guess is that Chromecast Audio will similarly require an internet connection, but am wondering if there is a workaround?
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A lot of talk, no conclusion about this yet. Some suggest tethering the phone should work. I've got one on order, should know next week.
cool, let us know! =]
I am working on getting mine to work in my car today. I bought it yesterday and didn't have much time to mess with it. I had it working as I tethered through my phone and using my gfs phone to play music but I'm going to see if I can get it to work without tether.
Got it working but not perfect
So the main thing is IT WORKS!!
Its just buggy getting it started but after that it plays fine for the whole ride. Here is what I did (notice: must have working tether on your phone to get it to work)
I am running a nexus 6 with Chroma ROM. Also I'm using Spotify to play my music.
Steps I did to try to get it working.
1. I first went through the setup process on my gf galaxy s5 and updated the chromecast through my tether.
2. I hooked everything up in my car.
3. Turned on my phones WiFi and press the button on the Chromecast first and then connect to the WiFi that my Chromecast gives out.
4. Then open the Chromecast app and make sure it sees it. (Mine still says it needs to be setup even though it already is. Don't worry about that)
5. Open Spotify and in the devices area it should say nearby cast or something like that. Try to connect and it will ask for a pin. Ignore that and hit cancel.
6. Then turn on your hotspot on your phone. It will then show your Chromecast name correctly in Spotify and you can connect and play music. (Must leave your tether on)
All in all I got it working without having a separate wireless connection to connect both of them and have audio playing through my car audio. I tried it twice now and it has worked.
Also the Chromecast app will not show its connected even though you're playing music through it. I have a screenshot of it at the bottom.
Nice - I have a ground-loop issue in my car and can't charge my phone the same time it is plugged into the stereo - this might solve that. I'm using mine to add streaming to a bedroom system, but if I like it, I may replace the streamer box on the home stereo, which cuts out on FLAC from time to time.
UPDATE: you do not have to go through all those steps everytime. I've tested further and found that it is much easier.
After you already have it setup in your car, to connect do these steps:
1. Turn on your phones WiFi and connect to your Chromecast audio.
2.After a few seconds turn your hotspot on(do not turn off the WiFi at any time).
3. After a few seconds Spotify will see your device and work perfectly.
OK,
I have had my Chromecast Audio working for the last day. I am using it with BubbleUpNP to stream audio of of my DLNA server on my home network. Working well, more reliable than the Soundmate that I was using. Going to order a micro-toslink SPDIF cable to use my on DAC. It isn't a DLNA renderer, so it won't work with software that is expecting UPNP/DLNA, but BubbleUpNP is working well.
I got one of these today, and the Hardware is really nice. It has a decent DAC, good WiFi, Dual (Analogue, Optical) output, so all good on that front. It also plays 24bit 192K FLAC from Qobuz without trouble. You should however make sure to turn the "High Dynamic Range" setting on in the CC app!
However, I don't like the way it's handled. I'm used to running Logitech Media Server with am Odroid U3 as Server and a couple of Raspberry Pi units with Hifiberry DAC/Digi/Amp addon boards, and with that setup starting music in the mornings is easy. I turn on the power, and that's it, after the Pi has booted, the music starts playing, choosing the last Playlist or Webradio Station I used when I turned it off. No need to even touch my phone.
With Chromecast I have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually get it playing any music, and that's it's biggest failure IMHO. It won't automatically reconnect, it won't resume playing where it left off, it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
This is a huge waste of potential! Sadly, I cannot use this neat piece of Hardware with Logitech Media Server, because it doesn't work as a DLNA Renderer, and LMS can't cast to Chromecast (since that only works from Android/iOS/Chrome OS).
So, while this COULD be great, it's currently badly underachieving. Maybe someone will work out a way to fix this by rooting CC and installing Squeezelite on it, of by some other means. There is always hope!
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I got one of these today, and the Hardware is really nice. It has a decent DAC, good WiFi, Dual (Analogue, Optical) output, so all good on that front. It also plays 24bit 192K FLAC from Qobuz without trouble. You should however make sure to turn the "High Dynamic Range" setting on in the CC app!
However, I don't like the way it's handled. I'm used to running Logitech Media Server with am Odroid U3 as Server and a couple of Raspberry Pi units with Hifiberry DAC/Digi/Amp addon boards, and with that setup starting music in the mornings is easy. I turn on the power, and that's it, after the Pi has booted, the music starts playing, choosing the last Playlist or Webradio Station I used when I turned it off. No need to even touch my phone.
With Chromecast I have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually get it playing any music, and that's it's biggest failure IMHO. It won't automatically reconnect, it won't resume playing where it left off, it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
This is a huge waste of potential! Sadly, I cannot use this neat piece of Hardware with Logitech Media Server, because it doesn't work as a DLNA Renderer, and LMS can't cast to Chromecast (since that only works from Android/iOS/Chrome OS).
So, while this COULD be great, it's currently badly underachieving. Maybe someone will work out a way to fix this by rooting CC and installing Squeezelite on it, of by some other means. There is always hope!
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You can use it with your DLNA server, but you need to manage the Chromecast with BubbleUpNP on your phone. Not perfect, but more stable than the renderer that I was using.
I got mine yesterday and I must say that I am very happy with it. One thing though, when I play music via YouTube (via casting screen/audio in the CC app) the sound volume is really low. It is much higher when I play music via Spotify. Is there a way to boost the output from the phone? I tried the hardware buttons of course
Workaround for the Volume being too low: Use a cast-native app like Spotify to crank up the Volume.
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it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
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Yes, I see your point, but IMHO it's more than just a WiFi equivalent of a BT adaptor because, whilst you CAN stream from your device/locally with the right app, most "standard/consumer" use cases have the Chromecast streaming content direct from the Internet which is controlled by the app in your device. Your device doesn't do the streaming, saving power, you don't have to stay in range, etc. If I start steaming using Spotify as the app, for example, the Chromecast will continue playing my playlist even if I close Spotify on my device.
True. However, it still lacks a lot of features other multiroom systems offer. This little dingle has loads of potential, but Google will have to work hard to make it shine...
I know it's ridiculous for some folks and maybe I do it just for the sake of doing it, but ah well. It's the future so I enjoy these things.
I have my hotspot from my LG V10, did the same with my Nexus 6 until a few weeks ago, and a Nexus 7 with a usb hub w/ 3 x 128GB tiny flash drives in it connected to that network. I do the cast screen function and use PowerAmp and shuffle like 300whatever gigs of music to the Chromecast Audio which is plugged into my Scion xB.
Might move from the Nexus 7 to a Huawei P8max in january with tax returns coming since it has 64gb and I'll put a 200gb card in it and that'll be close enough to the amount of music I'm using now.
I'm more concerned with convenience than quality outside of the fact that I avoid bluetooth audio, this is wifi and full quality. Otherwise I'd fiddle with an external DAC as well. Who knows what the future holds though.
That's actually so stupid that it's cool,have to try this myself also Always interested thinking outside the box, thanks for the idea!
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unfortunately one big disadvantage is that it still requires internet to initiate the casting connection, especially if you are not covered with network it stops working
thats why for car-usage it seems that bluetooth is far superior (especially if using apt-x)
Id like to see a way to circumvent the need for internet connection though. Any idea?
Update: Ive made an interesting discovery!!
While connected to the Setup-Wifi (when the Test-Tone can be played!) of the Chromecast Audio it is possible to enable Screen Mirroring / Casting via the Chromecast App then you can listen to anything the Phone plays. If this is stable and usable this would be really awesome. I will keep testing
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Have you tried this? It works quite well actually. Not so ridiculous.
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Update: Ive made an interesting discovery!!
While connected to the Setup-Wifi (when the Test-Tone can be played!) of the Chromecast Audio it is possible to enable Screen Mirroring / Casting via the Chromecast App then you can listen to anything the Phone plays. If this is stable and usable this would be really awesome. I will keep testing
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Nice find. I have been waiting for root or some solution like this before i purchase a CCA. My scenario is - bluetooth handsfree profile to car bluetooth, headset jack to car audio input. This works great for streaming music from tidal. The problem is the 2007 audio input jack sometimes makes loud pops. Yeah i could probably clean the jack, but i want fully wireless!
Last time i checked, Tidal was not supported on CCA.
I am on Metro PCS, who provides UNLIMITED tidal music streaming, so simply hotspotting the phone will not work for me(no tidal app for CCA)(data plan would be consumed).
I think my car has an optical input, and getting this setup working would be awesome- not ridiculous.
So does this quoted workaround work?
And if so, what steps are required every time you get in the car?
Thanks.
Frolob
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I got one for Xmas and it's been sitting around in a box looking for a purpose. That internet connection bs needs to go. If you want superimpose ads or whatever but let it function offline. For the same price I got a Hootoo portable htm05 router/nas/ battery and it works offline with dlna and bubble upnp. Too bad because the chromecast is smaller and more efficient. If anyone finds a practical workaround hit us up.
I am using Chromecast audio in both of my cars for these reasons:
Lack of bluetooth audio in car.
Steeamed media is far superior from an audio quality perspective.
The DAC in the Chromecast is exceptional.
VW Monsoon and Audi B&O both sound amazing.
I find the chromecast volume level should be at around 50% else distortion may occur on some of the high volume sections.
Post your vote for official support on mobile hotspots here:
https://productforums.google.com/fo...oter#!msg/chromecast/lpHteomXkhs/UJXgaDzbBAAJ
power issue in car
I plugged the chromcast audio in my car usb charger and I overburned 2 out of 2 chromecast devices.. anyone had similar issue? is there an Ampere limit I should stick to?
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Matteo
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I plugged the chromcast audio in my car usb charger and I overburned 2 out of 2 chromecast devices.. anyone had similar issue? is there an Ampere limit I should stick to?
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Matteo
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You can't "overburn" them. They probably went out for different reasons, like .. heat. Look at the factory charger the chromecast comes with and use that as your reference. I don't see why a regular 1amp charger would be an issue. The Chromecast will only pull as much as it needs, you can't feed it more.
Well car temperature was 18 celsius. Amp could have been 2.4 ...
Like the previous guy said, CCA will only pull as much power as it needs. Perhaps your power adapter is low quality and didn't supply enough power to the CCA which will cause failure.
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I plugged the chromcast audio in my car usb charger and I overburned 2 out of 2 chromecast devices.. anyone had similar issue? is there an Ampere limit I should stick to?
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What is the output voltage for your 12V adapter? The Chromecast takes 5V.
So I've made progress, and enjoyed using my chromecast audio (CCA) both to and from work today.
First, you need to decide whether you will only be playing local content on your phone, or will you want to play audio from the Internet via your phone. I'll only talk about Option 2 here for now.
To do this, you either need to have a mobile hotspot working on your phone, or you need to use a MIFI device in your car. I am using the mobile hotspot on my android phone.
In brief, you will set up the CCA to connect to the phone's hotspot when you turn on your car. Then, you will cast from your phone in guest mode (since your phone will turn off wifi when the hotspot comes on, you can't make the traditional wifi connection from your phone to the CCA via a wireless router). Once setup, your phone will notice that it is "close" to the CCA, and you can then cast to nearby CCA in guest mode.
The tricky piece is doing the initial setup. For now, you need to initialize your CCA in a different environment than your car. Choose an SSID and password that you will use in normal operation in your car. Find a wireless router that you can manage and change its SSID and password to your chosen values. (This router is only used in setup; I'll call it the "temp wifi router".) Connect your primary phone to this temp wifi router (scan for wifi, choose the appropriate SSID, and enter the right password).
Power up the chromecast nearby (in range of your temp wifi router) Now go to the Chromecast Home app. If all is running as it should, it should see the CCA and offer to set it up. Set up as you normally would, instructing the CCA to use your chosen SSID and password of the temp wifi router. Setup Guest mode on the CCA and remember the 4 digit pin. Turn off your primary phone's wifi, connecting to the Internet via the cellular network. Confirm operation by casting audio from your primary phone in guest mode to your CCA.
Now turn off the temp wifi router (or change its SSID). Turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone. Change the SSID and password of your mobile hotspot to your chosen values. Reboot the CCA and your phone. Turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone. In a 10-20 sec, your CCA will reconnect to your phone's mobile hotspot. Now use your phone to send audio to your CCA in guest mode. Done!