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[Q] Is it finally time to upgrade? EVERYTHING seems so slow...

I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!

I'm running PA 3.65 on lk 7. Oc'd to 1.3 ghz. Phone seems pretty fluid to me. Definitely there is a difference between my phone and say, a Galaxy s3, but it's not to where it makes me feel my phone is obsolete. Plus, the gnex has a great development base with not only Roms but kernels as well. This extends the lives of our devices greatly. I plan to stick and wait it out a while longer myself.
My advice, delve deeper into your gnex and try some more combinations and tweaks. See if there's something you could do. Currently I've been on a governor binge--trying all the various governors, looking for the best for me, battery-wise and performance. Overall I'm happy.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

lourivellini said:
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
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I'm on stock 4.2.2 which is rooted and I've modified certain elements using Paul O'Brien's MoDaCo Toolkit (which uses the Xposed Framework Mod). I think about upgrading from time to time but never because I feel I need to. I am more than happy with my Galaxy Nexus (bearing in mind I don't play intensive games).
I would wait a bit longer and see what the LG Optimus G2 is like and maybe upgrade early 2014. The next Nexus might be released in November anyway.
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if u want the S4, go for the Snapdragon version coz it has more development goin on
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My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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mrgnex said:
My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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+1 to that
maybe time slowed down for him xD
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"Upgrade" to android 4.1 and your phone will suddenly seem like less of a bag.

Seraz007 said:
+1 to that
maybe time slowed down for him xD
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At least he can try
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mrgnex said:
My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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I don't think the phone is really slow, it's just that the amount of memory available is starting to be a problem. When you have plenty of memory the phone is fine, but between the OS, Chrome, the new Hangouts, the new Music player, and whatever else you have running you can quickly run out of memory and when all your background apps are restarting the phone is definitely not smooth.

Since 4.2.2 the Gnex started to be more laggy. If you use a custom rom and kernel (i.e. CM 10.1 based rom and fancy or franco or ak kernel) you can indeed tweak it up so it feels quite fast again, then again, the battery drains like crazy, a solution for this is buy an extended 3800mAh battery (I've one in my Nexus and it at least doubles the battery life, means you EASILY get through the day, even with overclocked settings and heavy use).
Imo it's still a very nice device.. But don't expect quad core performance from a 2011 dual core phone
My Note 2 with AOSP 4.2.2 rom absolutely is a beast and battery life is awesome (stock 3100mAh battery).
So long story short, if you overall still like your nexus: install CM 10.1 and i.e. fancy kernel, overclock it to about 1.4GHz, get the extended 3800mAh battery and it will make a big difference already to stock.
If you have enough money aside and feel like having something new, get a SGS4 or HTC One (awesome design), or if you like a big screen on top of that like me, I definitely recommend the Note 2 (it's considerably cheaper than the SGS4 and in terms of performance with irl use the difference is not really noticeable), or wait for the Note 3 .

When is a downgrade an upgrade?
lourivellini said:
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
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Before you write your phone off, try going back to 4.1.2. I've been using MiNCO v5 (which was my favourite 4.1.2 ROM, comes with franco's milestone 6 and is super stable and minimal.) Just flash v2.1 of this transformation pack as if it were a gapps package (actual gapps are already built into the ROM)
Your phone will have all the 4.2.2 goodies (except toggles and LS widgets, but there's an app for that) with none of the slow sluggish feel.
Try it. I promise you won't be disappointed.
P.S This mod and crossbreeder are the only 2 additions I'd STRONGLY reccomend. The first unifies the "holo" theme of stock JB (read the thread, it's awesome!) and the second does some amazing things which include system wide adblocking and smooth DNS caching just for starters.
P.P.S If you go back to 4.1.2 just make sure you have the latest radio for your region and DON'T RESTORE SYSTEM APPS FROM TITANIUM BACKUP.

thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.

lourivellini said:
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
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Try greenify instead of faffing about with freeze and unfreeze in TB. Also, this might be the radio you want, I'm not sure if you're gsm or cdma on AT&T (I'm from the UK) so the best way is to check in your settings on your current setup:
Settings>About phone>Baseband version
Though I'd highly recommend reading the thread just to check, it's amazing how big the change is when using an out of date radio.

pfmiller said:
I don't think the phone is really slow, it's just that the amount of memory available is starting to be a problem. When you have plenty of memory the phone is fine, but between the OS, Chrome, the new Hangouts, the new Music player, and whatever else you have running you can quickly run out of memory and when all your background apps are restarting the phone is definitely not smooth.
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I'm no expert but it seems to me that Android devices are similar to Windows in respect to slowing down over time. I think the complexity of today's apps contribute greatly to a phones alitity to keep up but not as much as you may think. I uses chache cleaner ng to get rid of a good portion of garbage on a regular basis and once in awile a fresh flash really speeds things up again. Don't forget about all those apps we think we need but never use. Get rid of them.
I ran errands today Streaming Slacker Radio, running navigation, and answering and making phone calls and my phone never game me a reason to think it was time to a new one.

Here is my solution - I suffered the same problem like you.
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
The problem is that the storage is not trimmed properly. You can use Lagfix to trim storage. Try it, it will work.
But the real solution is to factory reset your mobile (I mean wiping everything, restore the original system and root again). This way the storage will be trimmed too and it will be blazing fast again. If you leave at least 3GB free storage, the slowdown won't happen too soon again. Although a 4.2.2 ROM will then be fast too, the real speed you will only get with 4.1.2 (I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
That's my experience and I won't change my ROM until Android 5 is out... :fingers-crossed:

I get where you're coming from, but the GNex has a dual-core processer, with 1gb of RAM, if its feeling slow because you've been playing with you're friends quad-core phones with twice the RAM, then its definitely time to upgrade because no matter what ROM or Kernel you use, you're going to notice the difference. IMO I love my GNex, I'm running AOKP 4.2.2 and I couldn't be happier for the moment. However, when the Nexus 5 comes out I'll be the first in line.
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(I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
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Do you have a download link? I can only find that ROM for other devices than GNex.
I'm coming from Liquid Smooth 2.5 and running CM 10.0 since a few days. So far so good, but I'm missing a few features of Liquid Smooth and would love to give it a try again... Thanks!!
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hudl said:
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
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I know how Android memory management works, and that's exactly what I'm taking about. When apps get stopped it makes the phone slower because the apps need to be started again when you go back to them.

hudl said:
Here is my solution - I suffered the same problem like you.
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
The problem is that the storage is not trimmed properly. You can use Lagfix to trim storage. Try it, it will work.
But the real solution is to factory reset your mobile (I mean wiping everything, restore the original system and root again). This way the storage will be trimmed too and it will be blazing fast again. If you leave at least 3GB free storage, the slowdown won't happen too soon again. Although a 4.2.2 ROM will then be fast too, the real speed you will only get with 4.1.2 (I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
That's my experience and I won't change my ROM until Android 5 is out... :fingers-crossed:
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Trimming /data trims the storage as well as storage is /data/media. I don't think every phone is affected by this trim problem as they don't all use the same emmc (see the trim thread in this forum).
I also agree with you 100% that 4.1.2 performed a lot faster for me than 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus. I don't think the hardware of the Galaxy Nexus or even the Nexus 7 fully handled Android 4.2 smoothly. Software optimizations could improve that. Actually on my HTC One on the GE (AOSP like) version of 4.2.2, the UI could get a little jittery.
While I agree with you that Android killing apps is normal when it runs low on memory, I can confirm CM10 killed apps a lot less often than CM10.1. Even with the memory leak patches implemented earlier this year into CM10.1, my RAM would get low enough that the lowmemorykiller would kick into gear a lot more often than CM10. I don't think this is the only cause of slowness in Android 4.2 but it can contribute. The most likely candidate is systemUI which Google changed how it works as in 4.2 it shows the background on the launcher in recents instead of overlaying recents on top of your current app. As that has to load the wallpaper from the launcher it may slow down if it has to pull it from memory.
PS. You say you won't change your ROM until Android 5 is out but 4.3 may fix a lot of the issues in 4.2 and the updated bluetooth support is a must have for users with Low Energy devices.

lourivellini said:
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
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U live in the US? then u should've no problem gettin the snapdragon version
Snapdragon version is the quad core one not exynos( Octa core)
More devving for the Quad Core one since samsung didn't release exynos source code
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So laggy..please help.

Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!

sw6lee said:
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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One thread is enough, you don't have to post the same question in multiple sections.
As I said on your other thread, stop blaming the device and look at your apps. My 8.0 isn't laggy at all. In fact it's pretty zippy. Chances are one of your apps is causing the issue or you have too much stuff filling your memory. Do a factory reset. If the lag stays gone add your apps back a couple at a time till you find the one that's not playing nice. How much free space/memory do you have left? The fact that the lag goes away when you reboot points to it being an app problem.

sw6lee said:
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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go to developers options and turn off all animations,
also disable CPU power saving option in power saving mode,
then check if you feel any difference

Thanks for replies guys!
So I believe it was ram issue. Too little ram left when it was stuttering really bad. However, I'm wondering why this device was not releasing ram by closing open apps for the forgoing app to run well. This is the android way of managing ram isn't it? But when I checked the ram manager in the task manager app that came with the tab, there was very little ram left, less than 100mb I believe.
After I have been using it for more now, I also rooted it, and I deleted almost all the unnecessary bloatware. I think I see a huge improvement in performance after I did this, deleting bloatware.
The tablet runs pretty well now.
Although..I still see some stutters in animations, where the animation has dropped frame rates. Is this just due to Touchwiz? It doesn't happen every time, but sometime when opening app, or switching between apps in recent apps panel. The animations sometimes are pretty choppy. It is not a huge deal, but I just remember that my S2X was much smoother. Maybe it's because I was running a custom rom which was heavily tweaked by deviant development.
Any info would be great!
Thanks for your help again guys.

Hmmm, i have no problem at all, the tab 3 runs pretty smooth, stock. Now I have set the animations to 0.5 in developer options and it runs even smoother. Ok, it's not as fast as the Note 2, but it runs very nice. Very happy with it. (Using Nova launcher)
(I also disabled some if the apps that come with it, SNS Samsung Facebook, Samsung widgets, flipboard an the lot)
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Gede said:
Hmmm, i have no problem at all, the tab 3 runs pretty smooth, stock. Now I have set the animations to 0.5 in developer options and it runs even smoother. Ok, it's not as fast as the Note 2, but it runs very nice. Very happy with it. (Using Nova launcher)
(I also disabled some if the apps that come with it, SNS Samsung Facebook, Samsung widgets, flipboard an the lot)
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I see. Mine is running pretty nice right now but I'm feel kind of afraid as I use it thinking "will this animation be choppy?" As I long press the home button or something. Lol I really don't like choppiness.
So you don't notice ANY choppiness in animation? I want to know if it's only my device so that I can figure out what's the cause. I'm using nova launcher as well btw.
Thanks!
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sw6lee said:
I see. Mine is running pretty nice right now but I'm feel kind of afraid as I use it thinking "will this animation be choppy?" As I long press the joke button or something. Lol I really don't like choppiness.
So you don't notice ANY choppiness in animation? I want to know if it's only my device so that I can figure out what's the cause. I'm using nova launcher as well btw.
Thanks!
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Can't remember I did. Running smooth.
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Gede said:
Can't remember I did. Running smooth.
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Okay thanks for letting me know. Now I need to find why sometimes it lags even though it's better than before now. Hmm..
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Browsing. Why can't it be smooth?

So i have a top of the line tablet with octacore, 3gb of ram and the latest KitKat 4.4.2, I don't use energy saving either. And no matter what browser I use the experience is never satisfactory.
Chrome is pretty good but it has 0 functionality. We use our fingers not a mouse! And still laggy in certain situations (same goes for Samsung stock browser).
UC browser HD is very good too in terms of scrolling, but when you're typing text is lagging behind and switching and creating tabs stutters horribly.
And Firefox, the mother of lag. When you scroll down a page really fast it takes the browser up to 5 seconds to render the damn page! While you are already looking at it. Try it out for yourself, you scroll then you only get a gray page, then everything plops in very blurry and then after another few seconds stuff gets rendered and is finally sharp.
I know that every browser has this issue to some extent. But most render much faster than firefox so it doesn't appear as an issue. Anyway can't android keep a Web page in memory completely? I have 3gb of it!
Or maybe I'm doing it wrong or you guys can suggest me a different browser with good usability and smoothness? Thx in advance

Unfortunately it's not smooth and it seems that it will never be. Only next browser seems to be little better from others.
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Maybe you should try Dolphin Browser, imo its quite smooth and not laggy...
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I use Opera ,,very fast and smooth..
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Boat Browser and Habit Browser both are smooth and offer a lot if functionality.
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Thing is, some sites are "busy" and others are not.
Sent via my Note 8

Freakstyler said:
Boat Browser and Habit Browser both are smooth and offer a lot if functionality.
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Then maybe we just have different perceptions boat browser is not smooth at all on my tablet... Maybe I have to do a video or something because boat browser is one of the most laggy browsers I've tried :/ not as bad as firefox but pretty annoying.

nearly all browsers are laggy, there is so much ad crap loaded these days.
Once the page has loaded mine is smooth, so depends on you internet speed I guess.
My Ipad is the same.

Many ram doesn't mean will smooth. Because it use power of GPU and app can be use it and resoluiton.
Opera i see very smooth. Chrome and fire fox lag like hell.

clouds5 said:
Then maybe we just have different perceptions boat browser is not smooth at all on my tablet... Maybe I have to do a video or something because boat browser is one of the most laggy browsers I've tried :/ not as bad as firefox but pretty annoying.
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We must... I've tried just about every browser on my P600.... Boat is about as fast as they come... ( I have recently started to use Habit a little more due to lower CPU use, and a few nice features).
Boat both Tablet and Phone versions have been used daily for 6months, it simply doesn't lag... I can pinch to zoom, pan, scroll all completely with ease and without any lag, stutter or hiccup. Even browsers like Opera were too slow for me, I could see the text blur for a second before becoming sharp when zooming, panning or scrolling quickly. I don't have any such issues with Boat. Others like Chrome and Firefox just aren't even close.
I have of course optimized my tablet in numerous ways (without root) such as developer option animations, and Nova launcher etc.
Feel free to try other browsers mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516754
If you are receiving lag on boat, you are doing something wrong or you have a problem with your tablet...

Thx for your lengthy post. I'd like to believe then, that I have different settings or something... I tried to make a video and compare boat browser and UC HD (which is smooth but has other issues).
I used n4g.com and Watson.ch both are big pages with lots of images. It's not that apparent in the video though because it's not 60fps (duh) but I think you can see the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsG3DVLW_g

Oh well ..
On an IPAD , you cant really scroll completely like you can in Android ...
On Android the faster you move your finger the sooner it reaches the bottom of the page .. But on IPAD it only scrolls to an extent , hiding the fact that its still loading the rest of the webpage in the background . IOS is really good at hiding a lot of other things too and I actually like that and dont mind that since the experience is nice .. The only reason why I dont like IOS is because of a lack of a file browser , no usb pen drive connectivity , expandable storage , and itunes for doing anything and very little customization ..
The UI on an IPAD is really smooth and thats how its been ... plus ios talks in low level language ( Objective - C ) to the hardware directly where as Android has a middle man ( JAVA ) in between itself and the hardware
I have a surface pro .. and thats really really smooth for anything but its too heavy ..
So I have realized there is no happy place yet
Ideally I would wish there will be an os that has Flexibility of Android , Smoothness and optimization like IOS and Power of The Surface pro .. with Accurate Stylus support .... Oh well I can only dream .. but its funny that such technology still does not exist in 2014 .

No happy place :crying: wurde
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We have some amazing browsers out there... It would just be nice if they were a bit smoother overall. And somehow it feels like it's simple a matter of better code and not hardware limitations... That's what's bugging me!

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Thx for your lengthy post. I'd like to believe then, that I have different settings or something... I tried to make a video and compare boat browser and UC HD (which is smooth but has other issues).
I used n4g.com and Watson.ch both are big pages with lots of images. It's not that apparent in the video though because it's not 60fps (duh) but I think you can see the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsG3DVLW_g
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No problems... I can see the differences in your video, I'm not sure it's a huge difference but I can notice it.
Can you try the Mobile version of Boat instead of the Tablet version, for some reason I mainly stuck with the Phone version, although I have both loaded. I will try and also post a video at some stage of the varying browsers on mine to also show the difference, but it may take a few days...
Also UC browser (which has a reputation for being one of the fastest) seems to work fairly well on your video. What were/are your other issues, perhaps it's easier to address those issues than trying to get the other browsers working as fast for you.

clouds5 said:
So i have a top of the line tablet with octacore, 3gb of ram and the latest KitKat 4.4.2, I don't use energy saving either. And no matter what browser I use the experience is never satisfactory.
Chrome is pretty good but it has 0 functionality. We use our fingers not a mouse! And still laggy in certain situations (same goes for Samsung stock browser).
UC browser HD is very good too in terms of scrolling, but when you're typing text is lagging behind and switching and creating tabs stutters horribly.
And Firefox, the mother of lag. When you scroll down a page really fast it takes the browser up to 5 seconds to render the damn page! While you are already looking at it. Try it out for yourself, you scroll then you only get a gray page, then everything plops in very blurry and then after another few seconds stuff gets rendered and is finally sharp.
I know that every browser has this issue to some extent. But most render much faster than firefox so it doesn't appear as an issue. Anyway can't android keep a Web page in memory completely? I have 3gb of it!
Or maybe I'm doing it wrong or you guys can suggest me a different browser with good usability and smoothness? Thx in advance
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Do you use developer options?
Boat browser was stuttering for me a lot also. Seeing this thread reminded me of the force GPU rendering option which I had checked.
I just unchecked it and it seems to be making a difference
Edit: Disregard that, doesn't make any difference.

Hmm. I like the stock browser in 4.4. It's a hell of a lot faster than 4.3 was. XDA and the WSJ are heavy sites; is this slow?

BarryH_GEG said:
Hmm. I like the stock browser in 4.4. It's a hell of a lot faster than 4.3 was. XDA and the WSJ are heavy sites; is this slow?
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To me that does seem a tad bit on the slow side. Not so much the page loading but the repressiveness to pinch-to-zoom and finger scrolling seemed a bit laggy.

elsamuraiguapo said:
To me that does seem a tad bit on the slow side. Not so much the page loading but the repressiveness to pinch-to-zoom and finger scrolling seemed a bit laggy.
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Screen painting is a bit slower than my N3 but that's to be expected considering the enormous difference in display area. Page loading (which is slower than screen painting) is exactly the same on both. So is navigating around a page once it's loaded. I guess I have low standards.

BarryH_GEG said:
Screen painting is a bit slower than my N3 but that's to be expected considering the enormous difference in display area. Page loading (which is slower than screen painting) is exactly the same on both. So is navigating around a page once it's loaded. I guess I have low standards.
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I don't have a Note 3 but I have a Nexus 5 and it's no where near that laggy. In fact I'm pretty sure my Note 10.1 2014 is smoother than that as well. But I'm rooted with a bunch of tweaks, custom ROM, and custom kernel.

Here my takes:
1) Boat browser - fastest and best features, support flash
2) dolphin browser - second place, similar features as Boat, support flash
3) Others that support flash.
Try http://finance.yahoo.com and see how fast and how the page display with your browser!!

[Q] Noticeable Lag When Using

Hey guys,
I've noticed lags and stutters a lot more than I feel I should with a device this powerful. A few areas where I've occasionally seen it:
- Typing on the keyboard
- Multitasking with certain apps (somewhat understandable)
- Recent apps menu
- Opening certain apps
Perhaps I've been a little spoiled in that I'm coming from the Nexus 5 with a lightweight rom, but just a few things I've noticed.
Anyone else noticing some lag? Are there any settings you've tweaked to minimize this lag?
Thanks!

Recent apps and keyboard have always been slow on Touchwiz unfortunately...so for app switching I use Switchr Pro (amazing app btw) and Google keyboard which is always fast as well. You can turn animations off in developer options but yeah, I used a Moto X 2nd Gen for two weeks and that thing is waaaaay faster and smoother than any Samsung I've ever used but I prefer the features that the S Pen brings so I deal with the occasional lag here and there lol

Thanks for the response Composi. A agree, the software value adds like multi-window and s-pen definitely out-weight the occasional lag. This is my second "Stock" Samsung device (had the S3 years back and g-nex) but my first Note device. I'll try your suggestion and use the google keyboard and check out Switchr Pro. Definitely a fantastic phone though and for the power a features it gives me I'm willing to live with the lag.

I have never experienced this much lag and stutter. It's unfortunate but I am experiencing everything you are...

There's the occasional spastic scrolling in the browser, which I don't get. My Note 3 was pretty bad regarding this and the only browsers that would scroll smoothly were Chrome Beta and Opera. At least with the Note 4 it seems to be mostly gone. Strange though how Samsung can't solve this.
The SMS app also stutters a tiny bit, but the Note 3 stuttered like crazy when scrolling through a long conversation. It's not enough to bother me though with this newest handset.
I don't see the specific issues you mention though, OP.

I definitely notice more lag than I'd like or thought I would be, then I look at my RAM and I'm using up over 2GB of 2.7 GB, that's just background stuff! There's so much background processes running from, well, I don't really know but root would be nice to get rid of some of this crap; I've even disabled a lot of stuff. Whats running:
Quick Connect Interactive
Dropbox
TeslaUndrea
Evernote
com.sec.android.app.Smart
DeviceTest
ClipboardUIService
Direct pen input
Fingerprints
Beam Service
Smartcard service
Context Service
Google Play Service
Google play services
S Finder
S Health
Samsung Push Service
SoundAlive
Google Search
Syncronize
Weather
Facebook
com.sec.android.app.FalshBarservice
MyScript Resource Manager
Smart Remote
SwiftKey

I have also had 2 random reboots in less than 1 day. Maybe disabling bloat messes with things

I only experience lag when I press the recent apps button. Other than that, there isn't any lag on my Note 4.

Since I installed apex launcher I haven't noticed any lag except for a little keyboard lag when inputting the contact I want to text in the messaging app

Do you guys have power saving turned on? If you do check in that settings menu and if you have restrict performance on that turns the processor down at all times. I think that's a bug. If you just turn that part off the phone works great. Spent all night diagnosing that one.

You know what raiu, I do have PowerSaving mode on. I was under the impression that it needed to be toggled on for the auto-enable at x% to work. Turns out it doesn't. I would image this will fix my slight lag issue, and all fix the ridiculously good battery life I have seen since getting the phone.

Tab S lag?

Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards

tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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Your question will not get you a clear answer as you need to match your specific user profile and previous devices with those saying the device is laggy. I do not find my Tab S 10.5 laggy on stock, rooted 5.0.2. I'm not a gamer and mainly use the device for media consumption (reading news, YouTube, Netflix and email), none of which is too taxing. I replaced the stock launcher with Nova Prime launcher and used Titanium Backup to freeze the majority of bloat wear which reduced the start times and memory used. My previous devices are a Nexus 5 phone and a Nexus 10 tablet.
Using this kind of analysis you may be able to determine if this tablet is "laggy" for your personal usage profile.
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA Premium HD app

Root?
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?

I'm not sure where and when this lag occurs, but I've never experienced it.
However I'm not a gamer.

It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.

snapper.fishes said:
It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
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Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.

ashyx said:
Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
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Oh yes. Having used a Nexus 4 I know how smooth stock android can be. Samsung installs way too much crap on their devices, but I like the multi window feature too much to give up touchwiz. Last I heard the multiwindow feature still hasn't been implemented in AOSP Marshmallow.
Stock browser is amazing. I used to use chrome but it lagged like crazy. Not sure how Google can screw up chrome that badly, but then again chrome is a resource hog even on Windows.

NEver be a gamer on tablet, i always use it for media comsumption.
but, yeah, it's kinda laggy because my tablets installed with pre installed apps + full google apps.
And it's kinda lag sometime.

If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.

tarikkert71 said:
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
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I rooted for a few reasons. Proper device backups with Titanium Backups, superior audio with Viper4Android, Stickmount and immersion mode with GDM Gesture Control plus it's customized gestures. I use those root apps on all my devices.
I froze apps as several were being automatically started at boot time slowing down startup and unnecessarily using memory. I wanted a cleaner experience. The unwanted apps also clutter up your app menu, making it slightly more difficult to find the app you wanted to start. In general I freeze over removing as you cannot use that much of the freed up space except for SuperSU, Viper4Androis and Busybox. There are a few more but far less than the space freed by removing bloat wear.
I also dark themed TW settings and the notification bar as I cannot stand white backgrounds with black text but that was secondary to the root reasons listed above.
Due to the ability to root without tripping KNOX I could root without loosing my warranty. Without that I would have waited for a year until the warranty expired.
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA Premium HD app

steamrollerpark said:
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
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Does that work on the stock kernel if you are rooted?

tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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For what it's worth, b4 I rooted I used Package Disabler pro and disabled 104 different services/packages. It made a huge difference and everything worked just fine. But, I got the rooting fever and now I'm even happier with my Tab S.
TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks) ¤ Galaxy Tab S | SMT-T700 | klimtwifi ¤ AICP 5.1.1

Yes, running stock here.