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Impressions of the Optimus G (I switched from the Galaxy S3)

Okay, I've had the Optimus G (OG) for about a week now, and I can honestly say I enjoy it more than the GS3 I owned for a few months. I've lurked XDA a lot but figured I'd post this impressions thread in hopes of helping others out who are on the fence. I know I was definitely deciding between these 2 phones, and these kinds of posts really helped me.
Hardware and build quality are A LOT better. I've already had a few comments from strangers when they see me playing with my phone (case-less for now, eek).. asking "hey what phone is that?" or "that looks sleek"
It feels more premium in your hand and the sleek black with a touch of chrome makes it look a lot better than the cheap plastic of the GS3 in my opinion. The front/bezel is purely black (and by this, I mean when the screen's off, the entire front is pure black) and for whatever reason, it just looks sexy with the rest of the black phone. Also, it feels better in your hand... like you're holding something of quality.
Software-wise, I'll be honest I didn't go default with either phone. I love Nova Prime launcher for the gestures. (I set up double tap screen for opening camera, swipe down to bring up navigation is clutch when driving, amongst other gestures). I can say though, I've used the quickmemo A LOT more than I thought I would. It's nice to just pull it up to scribble down a quick note... I mean that's the only kind of notes that I take on my cell phone anyway. Then, you can store it in your picture gallery or your notepad app. I haven't used Qslide at all... especially because it doesn't work on YouTube and I don't watch movies on my cell phone.
Speaking of software, you will definitely notice how faster, quicker, and instant everything is on the OG. It's a snappy phone. I never thought the GS3 had lag, but after using the OG, you definitely notice it. I've tried to slow/lag it down... opening up navigation, youtube videos, browser, texting, etc at once and everything is just fluid. VERY impressed with the quad core snap dragon.
The screen is noticeably more vibrant. I'm never too picky on screens though.
I really don't have any gripes on the phone itself. My only concern is the lack of exposure it has. Not many cases or accessories if you're into that and not really that much buzz... considering everything this phone has inside.
Having said that, it kind of makes me feel like I have something special in my hands with this phone. It makes it more unique and luxurious... if that makes sense.
As long as it gets software support, I am extremely happy with my decision so far. The GS3 is popular, will have great product support, and lots of people have it... so it has that sense of community (as Apple does). But all of that stuff really doesn't mean much to me in owning a phone besides the product support.

After having this device for a couple of days i thought it was time to post my thoughts on it.
First off... build quality is amazing. Finally feels like I'm holding an expensive device. Was able to get a case for it at best buy the day i bought it. Put a zagg hd screen protector on it so my phone is protected. Sound quality is pretty good and the camera isn't bad once you change some settings.
Software is great too. Love the little things they did and love the layout. I too installed Nova Launcher after playing around with the stock one for a day. This phone is fast and cant wait for some aosp rom to come out or even better cyanogen mod (crossing fingers).
Gaming is amazing too. The Amazing Spiderman game from Gameloft runs with no lag whatsoever. 2Gbs of ram really help out and should be a standard on phones.
The screen is just awesome.
Battery life varies depending on what you are doing or what you use a phone for which is true for any device. I can easily go a full day and still have 50% percent left by turning off sync and data connection and only turning them on when i need to use them. When i play games the battery goes down fast too but im playing graphic intense games and usually am close to a charger when i do.
Playing movies looks awesome and the dolby mobile enhances the sound even more when headphones are used.
Overall this is my six android phone in three years and by far the best I've owned or touch (my wife has a galaxy s3 which i told her to get since she uses her phone as her primary camera). Def recommend it.
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What kind of settings did you change with the camera? I don't think it's all that bad, but am open to suggestions.
I have the default and the Camera Zoom FX app
Also, how do you take screenshots?

Take screenshots by using quickmemo. Just dont draw anything and hit the save icon. I'm not for sure what all i changed since i reset it to default. Just play around a bit you can reset camera to defaults in the camera settings
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I'm currently on the S3 and I've seen an RF sheet that shows the Optimus G has overall, the best signal strength out of any other device on Sprint. The issue is whether or not I can put up with the lack of development support. I know it's new and all but there's not much action as of yet. On the GS3, we had people upload ROMs before the phone was out!
Also - I just purchased a 32GB sd card that would be useless on the LG so I'm kind of at a stalemate. I'm just torn pretty much. I like the LG Optimus G's performance and UI (Samsung's stock UI is disgusting on Jellybean). Also the quad core would be nice. But I'm kind of a signal freak. I'm a big fan of s4gru and I literally drive to local towers on a week basis to check network vision progress lol. Biggest reason behind wanting an LG is the signal strength. In bestbuy, my phone had varied from -89-99dBm on EvDo while the LG Optimus held a steady -83-88dBm. This means the LG is more secure with holding onto a signal than the GS3 is and that is fact, according the to RF sheets provided by FCC documentation.
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(The higher the number, the better). The LG and Motorola Photon appear to be the best in terms of signal strength. Surprisingly, Samsung's GS3 is of the lowest!

I think if your on the fence about the microSD card. Consider this.
On my previous phone, I had a 64gb microsd card, which housed a large amount of my data-videos, ebooks, music, etc.
However, when I switched to this phone, and was transferring my data, I slowly realized that a lot of that data was useless. They were either books I previously read, songs that I didn't really listen to, so I then got a premium account on spotify, and videos that I should really just delete after I download.
All in all, I was capable of using only 10GB of my 32gb. And, I feel like I haven't missed a beat with storage. And this includes having a PSX emulator, Chrono trigger, and chaos rings on the device.
Also, the response time of apps opening is much faster when stored on main disk.
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Plus you have 50 gigs of air cloud too
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I came from GS3. So I also had 50gb Dropbox. And now with the OG I also have 50gb from box.Net
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T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".

MikeEx said:
T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".
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Also, it hasn't been that long till devs actually had source access+recovery. Can't develop and test very well without those. Or backup stuff...

MikeEx said:
T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".
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I've decided to stick it out with galaxy s3 mostly due to expandable battery and SD card slot. Still very tempting though lg!
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So far very impressed coming from 3d, still no root, navigation of screens is a little difficult, but sure when root and dev kicks in this will not be problem.
Big plus for me is battery and most importantly signal. Tried HTC LTE on launch and signal worse on 3d, this is by far the best signal I have had on Sprints crappy. Network in Arizona. Speed and performance amazing, though awesome on 3d with custom kernel and tweaks with antutu at 8000ish, higher now of course with no tweaks.
Want to wait for quad core HTC or maybe Samsung, but need change and BestBuy price last few days $100 decided to try. Thinking will be keeping, next week will determine.
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I'm liking mine very much so far. What do you mean "No Root yet", I've ben rooted for 4 or 5 days now atleast. Anyways it's a shame I have to keep his sexy sleek thing in a case just to keep me from going crazy thinking somethng will happen. I just hope they are willing to develop the software that'll push the 13mp lens to its fullest potential, far better than my Evo3D was but I see room for improvement still. Fast fast fast...just the way I like em, even without tweaks this thing is fast enough for me. Just with root alone I'm happy running my apps like WifiTether, don't need it any faster so I probaby won't run anything custom yet when it comes out. Overall very happy, was wanting an HTC quad core but not willing t wait till next spring so here I am with an LG-OG in my hands

[Q] Looking to buy G3, questions

As title states...
I'm the primary account holder and bought my Galaxy S4 out right. Well I'm thinking of using one of the lines that has jump and swapping it out for the LG G3 for myself (and give the S4 to the other party).
1.) How does the T-Mobile variant differ from the international version?
2.) Does it have FM included in it?
3.) How easy is this thing to root/flash recovery? Does it come with a locked bootloader? If so, how do you unlock it? I'm coming from owning Galaxy and Nexus products and all had no bootloader problems so I'm a bit leery going to another manufacturer.
4.) How's battery life on this device? I've just about had my fair share of TouchWiz and Samsung (even with AOKP on it as we speak). I really enjoy my fiance's Nexus 5 the way I had it set up but my biggest pet peeve is the battery is small and limited on that device
5.) Most important question, does anyone have any experience with the Xperia Z2 as well? This was the phone I really wanted to get but I can't justify spending $600 on eBay with no warranty on a device versus basically a free upgrade (I pay for all the lines on the account). Any thoughts on the camera on the LG G3 compared to the other flagships (e.g. Xperia Z2, Galaxy S5, Lumina, iPhone)? I use the camera a lot and some reviews I saw said it can be washed out and isn't the greatest.
Thanks for the help. :good:

If you like the Nexus then you'll love the g3. Its the big brother of the Nexus. I say go for it.
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Nosferatu. said:
As title states...
I'm the primary account holder and bought my Galaxy S4 out right. Well I'm thinking of using one of the lines that has jump and swapping it out for the LG G3 for myself (and give the S4 to the other party).
1.) How does the T-Mobile variant differ from the international version?
2.) Does it have FM included in it?
3.) How easy is this thing to root/flash recovery? Does it come with a locked bootloader? If so, how do you unlock it? I'm coming from owning Galaxy and Nexus products and all had no bootloader problems so I'm a bit leery going to another manufacturer.
4.) How's battery life on this device? I've just about had my fair share of TouchWiz and Samsung (even with AOKP on it as we speak). I really enjoy my fiance's Nexus 5 the way I had it set up but my biggest pet peeve is the battery is small and limited on that device
5.) Most important question, does anyone have any experience with the Xperia Z2 as well? This was the phone I really wanted to get but I can't justify spending $600 on eBay with no warranty on a device versus basically a free upgrade (I pay for all the lines on the account). Any thoughts on the camera on the LG G3 compared to the other flagships (e.g. Xperia Z2, Galaxy S5, Lumina, iPhone)? I use the camera a lot and some reviews I saw said it can be washed out and isn't the greatest.
Thanks for the help. :good:
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1. WiFi calling, you don't get an antenna(only works on korea), unlocked bootloader, and you don't get headphones nor a spare battery in the box like the korean version. I think the international phone brings headphones.
2. It's incredibly easy thanks to the developers. Root/recovery is available for T-Mobile. Root is available to everyone except sprint(coming soon). Only T-Mobile has recovery so far.
3. Everyone's usage is different but I love the battery if this phone. I easily get 16-20 hrs of standby and 5-5.5 of screen time.
4. I have no experience with the Z2 but I really like the G3 camera. There are picture threads on the T-Mobile and regular g3 sections that you can take a look at.
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No FM, not sure which phones even have it since it's not a feature I look for.
Battery life is much better than it was for me with the N5. I used Greenify and Lux brightness to keep it low on the N5 and I would still be under 15% at night with maybe 1.5 hours of screen time, at the most.
The G3 has been much better. I went to bed last night with 22 % left after 12 hours of use and 2.5 hours of screen time. I had never achieved that on the Nexus 5. I have a ton of apps that wake up the phone: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Hangouts, SMS, Google Music runs often. I even spent all day off of work's WiFi. Today I have turned it on, so we'll see if battery life improves. I had also turned off WiFi when screen is off due to the privacy bug, but today I enabled it again to see how much impact it has on the battery.
I am not a fan of Samsung devices and dislike Touchwiz. The skin on the G3 is pretty decent. It's not very intrusive, and even though I miss some of the N5's icons and cleaner notification drawer and status bar, the G3 has a pretty clean interface without having to disable everything.
The big advantage of the Tmo version is we already have a recovery, so we should be able to get more tweaks in ROMs soon.
I have been unable to get tethering to work (without the usage counting towards your tether bucket), and there are reports of international roaming issues.
Phone is running 4.4.2, and I'm not sure how good LG will be with an L update, but I don't think they'd be too bad. Hopefully a GPE version comes along and we can convert the phone to that.
The camera is pretty good, much better than my N5. The built in camera app does a pretty sh**ty job at auto White Balance in low light, but it is fast. I haven't used a Z2 in person, but the Z1 I tried a while back didn't blow me away in terms of camera quality. This one doesn't blow me away either, but it's an improvement over what I had before. I always had to use HDR+ mode on the N5, which meant photos took a long time, but they came out pretty good. I do miss HDR+ for low light photos.

You can use hdr on the g3 camera app.

so to be clear, no locked bootloader correct? Just run ADB to obtain root and flash a recovery?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2821005
[ROOT / TWRP][D851 ONLY][OSX/Linux/Windows] Root/TWRP your TMO G3 with PurpleDrake!
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IXChicharitoXI said:
You can use hdr on the g3 camera app.
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You can, but it's not nearly as good as Google's exclusive HDR+ I keep forgetting to see if someone has ported the feature over to another device.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2821005
[ROOT / TWRP][D851 ONLY][OSX/Linux/Windows] Root/TWRP your TMO G3 with PurpleDrake!
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Yup, all done for you in a script, or you can do it manually if you so desire. I did it on mine and I have TWRP (it looks funny because it only takes about two thirds of the screen) and root.

Nosferatu. said:
As title states...
I'm the primary account holder and bought my Galaxy S4 out right. Well I'm thinking of using one of the lines that has jump and swapping it out for the LG G3 for myself (and give the S4 to the other party).
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1.) As noted above, the T-Mobile G3 has does not come with earbuds or a spare battery. It does support Qi wireless charging, if you have the right cover.
2.) No FM radio.
3.) T-Mobile G3 bootloader is unlocked out of the box. Rooting is brain-dead simple, thanks to PurpleDrake.
4.) Battery life is above average, but not exceptional. My old Note 2 went longer between charges, but my G3 always has >20% left at the end of the day, so I can't complain. It really depends on how you use the phone. You could completely drain it playing heavy 3D games or watching Netflix all day, but that would drain any device (except perhaps a Droid Maxx)
5.) I have no experience with the Xperia Z2, so I cannot comment about that.
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If you like the Nexus then you'll love the g3. Its the big brother of the Nexus. I say go for it.
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Not necessarily. If you like the "vanilla" android experience of the Nexus 5, then you might not care for the LG UI. It is less laggy than Touchwiz, but it's still there. People that are used to no-frills style of AOSP might be turned off by the LG UI. Of course, that will change once the G3 gets cyanogenmod support, but that is down the road.

YAY! Phone rocks. Got it rooted and whatnot. Don't see much out there yet for development. Anyways, how do we go about getting wireless charging? I noticed it doesn't come with anything out of the box stock.
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Nosferatu. said:
YAY! Phone rocks. Got it rooted and whatnot. Don't see much out there yet for development. Anyways, how do we go about getting wireless charging? I noticed it doesn't come with anything out of the box stock.
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You can get the quick case, it replaces the back and has wireless charging. If you don't like the flip cover (I don't), you can get a back cover with wireless charging. There's a Verizon version that has been confirmed to work with our D851.

[Q] G2 Owner, Shall I Buy The G3 ?!

Dears LG G3 Owners ,
With LG G3 16GB price is very good now around 430USD for the 16GB/2GB Version , Shall i buy it ? is it worth the upgrade as i am already a G2 owner , the 32GB/3GB version is still very expensive and it will cost me extra 100USD which is very much
Is the QHD screen differ a lot from the FHD and worth the upgrade ?! or it's the same experience.
I just got my G2 4 months ago an i really love it so much and happy with it on every aspect
Does the 2GB RAM version runs good with the QHD or the Processor and RAM struggles
i watched almost every review from every popular site on YouTube and still can't decide :silly:
so please inform me with the Pros and Cons for the G3 specially the 16GB/2GB version
Appreciated your always help
Thanks

Honestly, if you are satisfied with G2, its not worth it.
Stick with G2 little but and get Snapdragon 810 device next year.

I find it never worthwhile to upgrade to the next flagship device
G2 to G3
S4 to S5
Note 3 to Note 4
And so on the specs are never worth the upgrade
Always skip a generation and its a real upgrade
The absolute worst so far has got to be the Z2 to Z3 practically nothing changed anyone going from a Z2 to a Z3 is just throwing money away
Just my 50 Cents

Stick with the G2 man, stick with it. I had one and picked up the G3, and am not happy with it. It's actually still sitting in the plastic still since LG fixed my cracking issue, and am back on my M8.

So you all agree that it doesn't worth the upgrade.
I intend to use it as another phone with another SIM side by side with the G2 , Sadly that LG doesn't have a decent Dual SIM Phone, or if i found that i really don't need to carry 2 phones i will sell the G2 and keep the G3
i guess i might keep the money for now and waiting for the next generation.
if you have any other recommendations i will be glad to hear it
Thanks All

MohamedYousri said:
So you all agree that it doesn't worth the upgrade.
I intend to use it as another phone with another SIM side by side with the G2 , Sadly that LG doesn't have a decent Dual SIM Phone, or if i found that i really don't need to carry 2 phones i will sell the G2 and keep the G3
i guess i might keep the money for now and waiting for the next generation.
if you have any other recommendations i will be glad to hear it
Thanks All
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There is G3 dual SIM.
You have 16gb and 32gb version

DelBoy said:
There is G3 dual SIM.
You have 16gb and 32gb version
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Not available in entire Middle East First time to hear about it

Im going to totally contradict my previous comment
Even though i say its not worth the upgrade i am one of those guys who just wants the next best thing
I never had a LG device but i bought my daughter the G2 last christmas and instantly fell for the device
Once i heard The G3 was out and had a QHD screen i just wanted it
I had a Note 3 (Loved this phone) found someone looking to swap for a Z2 so i did for a change (didn't like the Z2 at all poor dev support visible touch screen panel not very responsive screen)
Then just last week someone looking to swap G3 for a Z2 couldn't believe my luck
Ive seen G3's selling on gumtree for £200 so if you can get £160 for your G2 id say why the hell not

manemzjum said:
Ive seen G3's selling on gumtree for £200 so if you can get £160 for your G2 id say why the hell not
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Those for £200 are cracked or broken.

DelBoy said:
Those for £200 are cracked or broken.
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Maybe now but ive seen fully working ones for £200
Theres one there now for £260 open to offers unlocked which is not bad could easily get them down to £230

@manemzjum
i am thinking the same way , why not getting the LG flagship device while it's cheap and still great and later search for a deal to sell the G2 so the upgrade is done for a few money
do you have the 16GB/2G RAM or 32GB/3GB RAM , How do you compare it to the G2 once you have both in your hand
found a Z3 Dual SIM for a good deal around 550USD brand new sealed , but what LG managed to do adding a 5.5" screen in same size as Z2/Z3 is amazing and let me think a lot before getting a Xperia device
It's really hard to decide

The size of the G3 is great in your hand feels smaller somehow because of the curved back
I have the 16Gb version haven't really stress tested it yet but i just love looking at some QHD sample videos on the 5.5" display its like porn for my eyes
Lots of folk complaining about the camera but i find it excellent especially with laser focus
I cant really compare to the G2 as i haven't used it much like i say it is my daughters phone
Overall im very happy with it and will stick with it till im due a new contract in October 2015

manemzjum said:
The size of the G3 is great in your hand feels smaller somehow because of the curved back
I have the 16Gb version haven't really stress tested it yet but i just love looking at some QHD sample videos on the 5.5" display its like porn for my eyes
Lots of folk complaining about the camera but i find it excellent especially with laser focus
I cant really compare to the G2 as i haven't used it much like i say it is my daughters phone
Overall im very happy with it and will stick with it till im due a new contract in October 2015
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Thanks for your feedback , i meant for daily usage and common used applications is there is any lags or delay in touch or something like that ?! few reviews said that the device struggle and overheat sometimes due to high screen resolution "2GB RAM Version" and it's better to get the 3GB RAM , although the 3GB RAM performance was just 5~10% more than the 2GB version which isn't huge
Also already tried a G3 port to my G2 and everything was working fine , i noticed that the RAM consumption is a little bit high than regular G2 ROM so this is why asking is the G3 2GB have same behavior ?!

Only issues ive noticed is the default sms app lags but this is only an application problem as 3rd party apps work fine
phone has heated up once with excessive camera use but not with general use throughout the day
screen does have an over sharpened look to it (hopefully be fixed with lollipop update)
Ive only had the device a few days so not really looked into ram consumption don't tend to do this unless i have lag issues which i have had none (other than sms app) so its performing well by my books
Hard to tell if using QHD display for a long period of time will cause heating issues as most videos are quite short

manemzjum said:
Only issues ive noticed is the default sms app lags but this is only an application problem as 3rd party apps work fine
phone has heated up once with excessive camera use but not with general use throughout the day
screen does have an over sharpened look to it (hopefully be fixed with lollipop update)
Ive only had the device a few days so not really looked into ram consumption don't tend to do this unless i have lag issues which i have had none (other than sms app) so its performing well by my books
Hard to tell if using QHD display for a long period of time will cause heating issues as most videos are quite short
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so you so far happy with device performance , camera and screen overall
the first impression is important and since the device is new in your hand and you like it so this is good , sometimes you buy a new device and feel that you shouldn't bought it if you know what i mean
What about battery life ?!
will try to get a good price for the 3GB/32GB version , or may wait till Lollipop hit the G2 and see .

It's really amazing and so tempting what LG is doing fitting the screen in the smallest body
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As previously mentioned here is an LG G3 selling for £180

Very important question , What about the Sun/Outdoor Visibility ?!
Is it good and the auto brightness manages to bright the screen enough to be visible or it's hard to use screen in sunlight ?!

Ive been using g2 since the moment it was released, It was a scary change after 5 different samsung flagships and a nexus 4. So far i am so satisfied, i don't even want a new phone.
A friend of mine has the 32gb G3, and of boy that phone is so slow. It stock unrooted, i even factory reset it, still slow.
Lile really laggy and touch input take time to react. Annoying.
Knock knock is also hit and miss there, and battery sucks.
I'm keeping my G2 until a proper phone is found. My only gripe with the g2 us the camera, and i could used 300 mah more, but i enjoy it as it is as well.
My vote : don't go close to G3. Wait until there is something without compromise.

G3 is nice upgrade to g2. Sd card, much faster camera, removable battery, better plastic, bigger and overall better screen and it will be on lolipop soner. Only thing that is better on g2 is battery. G3 is very decent upgrade unlike many flagships..
The biggest g3 problem is poor auto lightning and to many haters that never used it more than few moments or never..

[Q] Worth the upgrade from a G2??

Noticing a lot of parallels with this phone and the LG G2/G3. Particularly in design. I've had a lot of different phones over the past year (One M8 GPE, OPO, MotoX, Nexus 5), and I keep going back to my G2. I really love this phone, the form factor, feel, and the volume on the back, it's just such an awesome phone. So when I saw this new offering by Asus it kind of peaked my interest.
A bit on the fence though. Immediately I saw one thing I'm not too thrilled about... fat bottom bezel. Would much rather had a shorter phone with onscreen navigation. That issue aside, few questions/concerns, and any input is appreciated....
- Does Android really dramatically benefit from 4GB of memory yet? or is this more of a future proof measure?
- Atom Z3580 vs Snapdragon 800. I honestly have little to no issue with my G2, for a phone that is 2 years old, the processor holds up rather nicely. I don't know a whole lot about Atom as a mobile platform, but is this comparable or better? Same concern with the GPU, PowerVR vs Adreno... I've always been under the impression PowerVR is pretty dodgy.
- Camera is somewhat important to me. I've read mixed reviews on the Toshiba sensor in it. The G2 isn't too shabby tbh, however, I noticed the Zenfone has a much wider aperture (f2.0 vs f2.4), and the FFC is also 5MP vs the 2.1MP on the G2. Can't seem to find any definitive answer on if the Zenfone has OIS, does anyone know for certain? Opinions on the camera??
Huge selling points for me is the SD card and dual SIM, two things the G2 doesn't have. Anyone else in the same boat, debating if it's worth upgrading from a G2?

I was actually with a similar dilemma, I could get a cheap g2 or the 550ML, decided for the zenfone at the end. since I have the 2 gig version I wouldn't know about the benefits. processor is snappy and the phone flies, tried a few games on it and no issues (dead trigger 2 and plants vrs zombies). little to no heat when playing ingress (gps and data enabled, screen on most of the time). got mixed feelings on the camera. no OIS as far as I know, night mode is impressive, but noise is really noticeable.
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the battery is actually the only issue I see. some people manage to get by, but there are some issues, asus is working on them though.
I'm happy with my purchase though.

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Noticing a lot of parallels with this phone and the LG G2/G3. Particularly in design. I've had a lot of different phones over the past year (One M8 GPE, OPO, MotoX, Nexus 5), and I keep going back to my G2. I really love this phone, the form factor, feel, and the volume on the back, it's just such an awesome phone. So when I saw this new offering by Asus it kind of peaked my interest.
A bit on the fence though. Immediately I saw one thing I'm not too thrilled about... fat bottom bezel. Would much rather had a shorter phone with onscreen navigation. That issue aside, few questions/concerns, and any input is appreciated....
- Does Android really dramatically benefit from 4GB of memory yet? or is this more of a future proof measure?
- Atom Z3580 vs Snapdragon 800. I honestly have little to no issue with my G2, for a phone that is 2 years old, the processor holds up rather nicely. I don't know a whole lot about Atom as a mobile platform, but is this comparable or better? Same concern with the GPU, PowerVR vs Adreno... I've always been under the impression PowerVR is pretty dodgy.
- Camera is somewhat important to me. I've read mixed reviews on the Toshiba sensor in it. The G2 isn't too shabby tbh, however, I noticed the Zenfone has a much wider aperture (f2.0 vs f2.4), and the FFC is also 5MP vs the 2.1MP on the G2. Can't seem to find any definitive answer on if the Zenfone has OIS, does anyone know for certain? Opinions on the camera??
Huge selling points for me is the SD card and dual SIM, two things the G2 doesn't have. Anyone else in the same boat, debating if it's worth upgrading from a G2?
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I upgraded from my G2 but only because it randomly shuts down and reboots, among other issues. Also the SGX from imagination is what Apple uses in their mobile devices so I wouldn't call it buggy at all. Perhaps the implementation of bad drivers has caused it to be poor with some devices.
So far I've used it for a few hours & while I miss custom ROMs on the G2 the stock ASUS ROM is usable. Can't comment on the camera because I don't take pics frequently.
Performance seems better, can't say whether games are better yet until I load a few.
If your G2 doesn't have the issues mine does then I wouldn't recommend upgrading. You would be better off saving your money for the next Zen or whatever.
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I actually have my ZF2 CN version up on eBay right now, and am pondering whether to go with the US version or the LG G2. Lack of LTE wasn't a deal killer but the HSPA+ signal wasn't always dependable and two of my more frequently used video streaming apps force closed immediately upon opening (watch TNT) or upon loading a video (Xfinity to go). Right now I found a new Verizon G2 that also works on GSM networks for $150 and I also found a way to hide tethering on the G2 so that the carriers can't track the volume so I'm leaning that way right now.

I think I'm gonna pull the trigger and buy one. I guess if I don't like it I can always throw it on Swappa.

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So far I've used it for a few hours & while I miss custom ROMs on the G2 the stock ASUS ROM is usable. Can't comment on the camera because I don't take pics frequently.
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When you have had a chance to use it for a bit if you would please comment on the brightness and readability of the display while in sunlight, I would appreciate. Some reviews and nit specifications indicate it leaves a bit to be desired.
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Tool Belt said:
When you have had a chance to use it for a bit if you would please comment on the brightness and readability of the display while in sunlight, I would appreciate. Some reviews and nit specifications indicate it leaves a bit to be desired.
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At the lowest brightness the ZF2 is brighter than the G2's minimum...but the ZF2's max is visibly lower than a G2 at max. This will give you an idea of how it may work outside until I try it out tomorrow.
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If you care about camera, don't get this phone. I have it, and zooming into pictures shows just how horribly noisy the image is. But I knew this before buying the phone - check out the camera compare tools on gsmarena.com and you will see just how bad this sensor is. Ability to resolve detail and extreme dithering are present. Maybe the sensor is really only as good as a 5 MP. Is the camera still good enough for what I want? Yes. I bought it because it's really really cheap and overall an amazing phone for the price.
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I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...

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I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...
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I'd go back to the g3

dicecuber said:
I'd go back to the g3
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Already gave the g3 to the wife ... Seriously the stock rom on this one is faster than the fastest g3 rom with tens of optimization tricks applied, and I've tried them all.

dutch45612 said:
I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...
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I've got the latest firmware update which seems to have reduced camera noise which is good news. I haven't looked to see how much better it is. I didn't expect they could or would improve it. Kinda happy with Asus upgrading the software 3 times since I got the phone. At least they care to fix what they can.
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Anyone thinking of switching

28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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Also hate autocorrect on this thing. Keyboard is harder to type on. I had no problems on the lg g3
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The Verizon G4 section is quiet, but the general G4 forums are much more active.
I bought mine on Edge as well (albeit from Best Buy). This is the first I recall hearing of a 30 day return period, vs 14 days. If so, that's pretty nice.
What are your priorities in a phone? I chose the G4 largely based on the SD card and removable battery, along with the camera.
The rumors I've heard seem to imply no SD card on the Note 5, IIRC. And possibly no removable battery. Do you want a stylus?

RedOCtobyr said:
The Verizon G4 section is quiet, but the general G4 forums are much more active.
I bought mine on Edge as well (albeit from Best Buy). This is the first I recall hearing of a 30 day return period, vs 14 days. If so, that's pretty nice.
What are your priorities in a phone? I chose the G4 largely based on the SD card and removable battery, along with the camera.
The rumors I've heard seem to imply no SD card on the Note 5, IIRC. And possibly no removable battery. Do you want a stylus?
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I think youre right, its probably 14days.
I chose this phone because of camera and because i had the lg g3 before this. This phone seems a little slower than the g3. Ive had so many problems with the keyboard. Im a fast texter but this phone has me make so many typos. Sometimes the space bar won't even insert space after touching it. Seems as if it isnt very responsive to touch as the g3 was. Battery life is also very bad, Not that bad but i had more hours on the g3. The stylus wouldn't be bad i just like the bigger screen. I dont like the fact that the note 5 might not have a removable battery or support sd cards. The note 4 seems to be my best choice and suits more needs more but i just love the lg g3 and i figured that this one would be amazing. But the way the touch screen response is annoying me.
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The only reason I am sticking with my G4 for now is because of the camera, it's amazing. I'm leaning more towards the Moto X Pure though.

You're going to return it.. Why? You're talking about switching to the note 5... The note 4 doesn't even have permanent root. Won't exactly get much better.
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28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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Yeah you're going to switch to a phone that doesn't even have root and will never have an unlocked BL whereas the G4 has a chance to be unlocked?

zagan131313 said:
28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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I do agree that it makes me nervous that we are 2 months in and still not much activity, especially compared to the G2 and G3, it just shows that LG phones are becoming less popular it seems.
Going to the Note 5 because of this though is completely idiotic, look at the Note 4. It still doesn't have root.

As an admitted flashaholic, I am a bit frustrated with the current state of our devices. However, the camera is so good, and I really like the leather back, that I may be satiated if Xposed starts working. I am also keeping my eyes on news of the LG built Nexus 5 (2015). I have seen conflicting reports about the camera it will be using. If it's the same, or close to the G4, I will be all over it, as long as it's supported on the Verizon network.

I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.

joshw0000 said:
I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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Not exactly. The battery is about the same on the Style (Pure, whatever). The Play edition is getting the crazy big battery. Honestly, I wouldn't have my G4 if not for the fact that the 1) Play is not available in the US and 2) the Style mysteriously has the smaller battery of the two devices.
Otherwise,... I'm really quite happy with my G4. It's definitely got bloat... but it's nowhere near the nastiness that was TouchWiz (my last phone was an S5), and I've been pleasantly surprised at how little it has, and how much of it is easily disabled. Woohoo! no more baby detector!!

DarkWolf747 said:
Not exactly. The battery is about the same on the Style (Pure, whatever). The Play edition is getting the crazy big battery. Honestly, I wouldn't have my G4 if not for the fact that the 1) Play is not available in the US and 2) the Style mysteriously has the smaller battery of the two devices.
Otherwise,... I'm really quite happy with my G4. It's definitely got bloat... but it's nowhere near the nastiness that was TouchWiz (my last phone was an S5), and I've been pleasantly surprised at how little it has, and how much of it is easily disabled. Woohoo! no more baby detector!!
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Oops, crossed my facts. 3000 mah should be plenty with Turbo charging. The phone is a beast (in terms of specs). Add in Pure Android and (hopefully) and unlockable bootloader and its the right phone for me.
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joshw0000 said:
I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
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I'm thinking it'll be a true unlocked phone like the i6 and Nexus 6.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
Thanks.
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Oh, it will be available on Verizon, just not FROM Verizon, if you know what I mean.