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[Q] Upgrading from Nexus 4 to LG G Pro. Should I?

Hi friends.
I currently own a Nexus 4 and I have loved this device for a REALLY long time. However, now I think its time to upgrade. My upgrade is due to the following 4 reasons ONLY.
1) Screen Size. I want a bigger screen size than my N4
2) Available Memory. 16 GB. Every now and then its full. Cant expand. I take lotsa pictures and videos.
3) Camera. Oh I hate my phone whenever I open the camera app. The camera itself is just plain pathetic. It just cant focus AT ALL. The pictures are 95% of the times blur. No my hands are not shaky. But this phone requires your hands to be trained on a snipper perhaps. And the pics are always dull, without life.
4) Battery. Need to charge it quite a lot. Although I am not a heavy user at all. But KitKat has ruined the phone. Moreover, I do NOT play games at all and never use data. If it had a removable battery, I would have easily charged the extra battery and use it on the go.
I am thinking of LG Optimus G pro for the following reasons.
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed in my country. Say its costs even lower than $280, unlocked. Which is a steal at this price.
2) Camera. I dont know but have read in the reviews that it's not on par with S4, however it miles better than N4.
3) Battery. Again, tech site and customers reviews say it is awesome. And ya, its removable. Lets say if it fails in a couple of year, i can easily buy one and replace it.
4) Got a micro SD card slot upto 64 Gig. So memory shouldn't be a problem.
5) 1080p. Of course an upgrade from the 720p I currently use.
6) OTG, for even more space.
Prices of other phones in my country.
LG G2: $440
Galaxy Note 3 Neo: $400 (without 3G version)
Galaxy S4: $450
OnePlus One: *ock Teaser lol
As you can see, all these phones are priced quite above G Pro, so I am toooo inclined towards the G Pro as it has KILLER specs at such a low price. Moreover, I don't much care about Android updates. But still would want to know, have you guys gotten KITKAT? If yes, which variant do you own? Since there are a few 988, F240 etc
I would request you guys to let me know how the camera is. The camera is very important for me, so please tel me your experiences. And is there any other flaw you guys found with the G Pro that you suggest me not opting for it?
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to G Pro. Please suggest.

Based on those reasons, yes, the G Pro would serve you very well. The only thing the N4 has over the G Pro is the Google Android. The most annoying issue with 4.1.2 on the G Pro was the crappy BT audio quality, and that has been fixed in the recent 4.4.2 update. IMO, it is one of the best values for the $$ in smartphones.

My 2 cents:
I upgraded from an optimus G(which is very much like the N4), definitely loving this phone. The size takes a while getting used to if you don't have big hands(I'm not a big guy) but the thinness of the phone helps a lot. The camera is really good, way better than the OG(and the N4).Kitkat brought a few more shooting modes and options (I really like the dual cam option), check the picture thread in the main section for samples). Battery life is good, especially in your case since you don't do gaming. The one low point for this phone is dev support. There aren't many custom roms available in comparison to the N4, so if you are a flashaholic i suggest you look at the dev section first to see what's available. We have 3 flavors of stock kitkat currently(1 for the 240 variant, 1 for the E988 and 1 for the E980). Personally I am using Spinx kitkat by radeonmaya which is based on the 240K. Rom is really nice with added goodies(slide aside, several themes, weather effects on the lockscreen), downside is the main thread is in LG viet forum so you need google translate to navigate it. Plus installing is a bit of a pain(need to flash rom, modded stock kernel, an edited build prop and modem) but in the end it works really good. Also there seems to be issues with the recoveries. Lets say you need to do a backup suing CWM/Phils. When donde you reboot to system, but for some strange reason the phone bootloops back to recovery. TWRP is the only recovery that i have used that gets me out of the bootloop and back on the rom. Also when flashing your files need to be on the internal storage and not on the SD.
If you don't mind that the i say go for it, for that price it's a great deal.

filthykid said:
I am thinking of LG Optimus G pro for the following reasons.
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed in my country. Say its costs even lower than $280, unlocked. Which is a steal at this price.
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to G Pro. Please suggest.
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At this price, you won't get anything better than GPro,,,go for it..
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manav_patial said:
At this price, you won't get anything better than GPro,,,go for it..
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Yes. I upgraded wife's phone from N4 to OGP in October 2013. Actually I bought it from craigslist for $275 for myself but she couldn't get her eye off it as soon as I brought it home. So she got the OGP and I got a G2 a month later. It was definitely a worthy upgrade and we took many family pictures with the OGP. It's a very huge phone though so it may take a while to get used to. That may be less of an issue to women because they usually have a purse wherever they go... I got the E980 unlocked with 32GB storage.

Go for it
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KennyWRX said:
Based on those reasons, yes, the G Pro would serve you very well. The only thing the N4 has over the G Pro is the Google Android. The most annoying issue with 4.1.2 on the G Pro was the crappy BT audio quality, and that has been fixed in the recent 4.4.2 update. IMO, it is one of the best values for the $$ in smartphones.
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I don't much care about latest android updates. After owning a Nexus device, I now know how unimportant these updates are. Since past a year n a half, Google hasn't released any major updates. They rather have FIXED issues on it (except for a few features). So I care less now.
luisoman2000 said:
My 2 cents:
I upgraded from an optimus G(which is very much like the N4), definitely loving this phone. The size takes a while getting used to if you don't have big hands(I'm not a big guy)...... when flashing your files need to be on the internal storage and not on the SD.
If you don't mind that the i say go for it, for that price it's a great deal.
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I do not ROOT or flash ROMs on my phone. Have never done it and don't plan to. I already think the features LG G Pro has on top of android are very handy and useful (Quick Memo etc). So I guess I won't be rooting my device
manav_patial said:
At this price, you won't get anything better than GPro,,,go for it..
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Thank Bro. Will grab one this weekend.
View92612 said:
Yes. I upgraded wife's phone from N4 to OGP in October 2013. Actually I bought it from craigslist for $275 for myself but she couldn't get her eye off it as soon as I brought it home. So she got the OGP and I got a G2 a month later. It was definitely a worthy upgrade and we took many family pictures with the OGP. It's a very huge phone though so it may take a while to get used to. That may be less of an issue to women because they usually have a purse wherever they go... I got the E980 unlocked with 32GB storage.
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Ahan. I guess I should go for G Pro now.
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Bdw, what do u guys have to say about the build quality? Speakers etc.
Speakers were very bad in N4. I guess due to the low price may be.
Plus, COLORRRR... Which color do u guys own?
I am thinking to get white one. Saw both on youtube and black one looks more like cheap plastic whereas white one looks classy. I know it all comes down to ones preferences but want to know which one do u own.

I own the dark blue and i like it, but the phone does look good in white.
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I got a white E980
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I have white and I love it
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I've had both. Hands down the OGP is better.
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luisoman2000 said:
I own the dark blue and i like it, but the phone does look good in white.
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polar2792 said:
I got a white E980
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thathamiam said:
I have white and I love it
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Alright. Thanks.
How's the built quality? Speakers esp.
And how long does it takes to charge the battery from ZERO to 100%?
Furthermore, whats with the brightness going dim when phone getting hot? Never heard of it before on any handset.
"Problem: Overheating and screen dimming
Some owners have reported overheating issues with the Optimus G Pro. This is another complaint that’s becoming increasingly common with all smartphone models. There isn’t room for a fan, and as devices get more powerful they require more juice and they inevitably get hotter. When the Optimus G Pro gets too hot it will start to dim the screen to help reduce the temperature. In extreme cases it might shut off completely."
SOURCE: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/lg-optimus-g-pro-problems/#!UOC3j

ackliph said:
I've had both. Hands down the OGP is better.
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Really? How about the camera? 99% of the reviewers have said it's bad. And the image samples on internet are very very cold.

filthykid said:
Really? How about the camera? 99% of the reviewers have said it's bad. And the image samples on internet are very very cold.
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As for brightness, the screen does dim a bit when getting very hot, or it wont let you set 100% brightness. It only happened once to me while playing ingress, could only set brightness to 85%. Build quality seems solid, and the speaker is decently loud.
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I switched from nexus 4 to ogp and it was a great decision. The ogp is very powerful and the best part is that you can add a zero lemon battery case that gives me three days of good use without a charge.
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Upgrade to the G Pro it's great
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I don't listen to the external speakers often. I had an HTC EVO 4G from 4 years ago busted speakers as soon as i got em. Then had a HTC EVO 4G LTE 2 years ago and busted those speakers. These havent busted yet so I'd say they're decent.
The 2nd EVO was also bent. This phone appears to be rock solid so far. Backs not glass so you don't have to worry about that
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luisoman2000 said:
As for brightness, the screen does dim a bit when getting very hot, or it wont let you set 100% brightness. It only happened once to me while playing ingress, could only set brightness to 85%. Build quality seems solid, and the speaker is decently loud.
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Thanks man. Appreciate your help and effort.
asl9622 said:
I switched from nexus 4 to ogp and it was a great decision. The ogp is very powerful and the best part is that you can add a zero lemon battery case that gives me three days of good use without a charge.
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That will make it bulky. Don't like bulky phones
rjmxtech said:
Upgrade to the G Pro it's greatH
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Aye aye captain.
polar2792 said:
I don't listen to the external speakers often. I had an HTC EVO 4G from 4 years ago busted speakers as soon as i got em. Then had a HTC EVO 4G LTE 2 years ago and busted those speakers. These havent busted yet so I'd say they're decent.
The 2nd EVO was also bent. This phone appears to be rock solid so far. Backs not glass so you don't have to worry about that
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Cool. thanks for the input. How long does it take to charge the phone from 0 to 100%

With the standard charger about 2 hours. I use a 1000mA charger at work and it takes a bit more. Standard charger is 1.5 mA if im not mistaken.
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G Pro all the way, for sure.
One thing is important to consider. If you ever want to use custom roms you will notice we don't have many. But, the ones we have rock.
Another thing, before starting flashing custom roms try to read as much as possible. This device is a bit tricky as we do not have the bootloader unlock. Actually, it is bypassed.
Thus, making backups is mandatory to save you from headaches.
I, personally am running @tdm Pace Plus 4.4.3 and am enjoying very much. Qremote is working properly and @ballhandslow 13MP Camera is also working very well.
By the way, if after flashing the camera you do not see it at the drawer, re-enable the stock. Then you might see two cameras. Check which one is 8MP and which is 13MP and disable it. Everything is gonna work fine.

Waiting on Nexus 6, how many of you would jump?

My Nexus 6 should arrive on Dec 15 and I'm totally looking forward to dumping LG G3. It took half year to bump the bootloader and get AOSP, it's too much for me. And I can't stand LG firmware, it's crap and laggy.
so I wonder, how many ppl here are waiting/ready to jump the ship ?

Why do so many people complain about lag i have zero lag. And as for development being slow if it was that big of a problem learn to do it yourself which a lot of people dont have time for. Nexus 6 will get way better development support because its bootloader can already be unlocked and its completely open source so hardly a fair comparison imo. Wouldnt ditch my G3 entirely for a n6 but would love to try one
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its way too big... i find the LG G3 big... its not a device you can carry around in jeans etc... Nexus 6 is a tablet IMHO..
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Wouldn't switch right now, myself. The N6 is showing the same early-adopter problems the N5 did. Also not willing to encourage Google to take the road they are starting to lean towards. Given the spec comparisons between the N6 and the current and near-term competition, the asking price is a bit, optimistic shall we say, on Google's part. Beyond those concerns, I really like my G3. Beautiful display, snappy and responsive. I can't even say that LG's skin bothers me all that much. There were some additional features I wanted, so I rooted and did some tinkering with Xposed, but I am still running the stock ROM, and expect to be for the foreseeable future. Being that I haven't run stock for longer than it took me to root my previous phones, that's saying something. The only thing I can think of that might tempt me to flash a custom ROM would be if the PA team added the G3 to their list of officially supported devices. Even that might not be enough. Having been a flash junkie for a bit, I do appreciate the stability of a (mostly) stock ROM these days.

This years nexus phone simply costs too much this time off-contract. I think more people would opt to get the OPO. I managed to snag a G3 for $69 on contract. I wouldn't normally go on-contract, but we got a really sweet deal from work that made it worthwhile. (Free roaming data in any country, massive minutes package, special international rates, etc...)

This device is clearly intended for international users, For US/Canadian users your better off owning a Samsung, HTC or Motorola, If your into custom anything.
I personally would like to change over from the G3 to the Nexus 6 or the Moto x 2014. If the Nexus 6 is to big for me i'll defnitly go for the Moto X 2014. Either way eff this lg ****.
The G3 is THE NICEST device, Physically. But when it comes anything about the phone that isn't physical it just sucks sack. (except that notification area, LG did right here, But failed everywhere else)
Neurom707 said:
Why do so many people complain about lag i have zero lag. And as for development being slow if it was that big of a problem learn to do it yourself which a lot of people dont have time for. Nexus 6 will get way better development support because its bootloader can already be unlocked and its completely open source so hardly a fair comparison imo. Wouldnt ditch my G3 entirely for a n6 but would love to try one
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I can't speak for everyone here, But for myself my G3 lags like **** and the responsiveness goes into the toilet the instant ANY Xposed module is installed (I haven't found a module yet that doesn't cause a system wide lag and/or battery drain). After I disable module and everything is fine, Re-enable ANY module and phone is back to performing like ****.
On my phone some apps cause the same thing.
It's not the fact that we "can't" reset, It's the fact that your playing Russian roulette on this device everytime you install anything and then having to flash every damn time an app causes an internal slowdown. (Most of the time uninstalling the bad app doesn't help, Usually requires a full flash to get rid of the problem.)
All Xposed modules on D852 = Will cause system wide phone lag for no explainable reason.
All Custom kernel on D852 = Will cause system wide phone lag for no explainable reason.
Some apps on D852 = Will cause system wide phone lag for no explainable reason.
Just because someone develops their own stuff isn't going to make anything faster.
It would take you just as long to develop anything as it would for anyone that is currently already developing for this platform.
If your not waiting for someone to build you something, You're just sitting there waiting the same amount of time waiting on yourself to do the exact same thing. Not only that but you can sit here on the G3 and get 1 rom a month or you can get a phone with real development and have roms fired at you so fast you can't even test them all.

I want to. I want to get the moto x '14. But I'm on verizon edge. And that means to do it now is have to pay 200 bucks and give them the phone. Or wait 8 months and just give them the phone. (I have to pay 75% of the phones off contract price at 26 bucks a month.) or if I pay it off 100% I can keep it. So I'm going to wait another month or so and see how lollipop treats us vzw people. If I don't get lp by then I'm going to pay them the money and go on my merry way. I'll never buy a phone with a aftermarket skin again. Just moto and nexus.
My wife got the m8. Hate dealing with it. Mom got the s5. Its a pain. And me with LG. I rocked moto back in the devour days with blur. I'd rather have that **** than this. But. Hey. Whatever. I think Motorola should do a devour redo. Same unibody metal shell, New specs, New screen, no blur. Oh man it'd be amazing.
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I was thinking but not any more. Love g3 for external memory and removable battery.

I was between the N6 and the G3, and picked the G3 because it is half the price! I even got the 32/3GB version for a little bit more. I couldn't believe Google's asking price for the Nexus 6. Oh well, good for them! It seems it's selling well even though it has a SLEW of problems! For its size it has terrible battery life and mediocre imaging... For their asking price I'd say it's not a good deal, except for the whole idea that it's going to get updated for years to come! But by next year or the following at most I'll be changing devices anyways...
Regardless, the Nexus 6 looks like a good phone. But I'm too happy with my G3 awesome battery, awesome screen, 0 lag, great camera. No complaints! Enjoy your Nexus 6 It's a monster of a phone

I would like a N6 but its rather pricey and more of a sideways moment on the G3.
The main reason I want a N6 is for the Dev support not due to lag on the G3 cause I have non, my is lighting fast.

Neurom707 said:
Why do so many people complain about lag i have zero lag. And as for development being slow if it was that big of a problem learn to do it yourself which a lot of people dont have time for. Nexus 6 will get way better development support because its bootloader can already be unlocked and its completely open source so hardly a fair comparison imo. Wouldnt ditch my G3 entirely for a n6 but would love to try one
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Same... zero lag ever, still on 4.4.2 waiting for OTA.
I don't know why people say this phone is laggy... I think they're just whingers. Mine is slick as a really slick thing. No root, no XPosed fail modules, just stock smooth.

One year in, how is the G3 holding up? And a few other questions

Hello All!
I currently have a G2 on ATT. I had bought a used G3 about 6 months ago and was disappointed in battery life and performance- felt it was a little stuttery. My best friend has 2 G3s and claims I had a defective one as he gets great battery and performance. G2 is a great device but I am just getting bored with it.
I was curious how this phone is holding up a year after its release and if performance has gotten better with Lolipop? How is the battery life doing these days?
Lastly, any clue as to why the tmobile variant is so much more expensive than any other? Seems to be about $100 more than the att, verizon, us cellular, and sprint versions. Even though I am on ATT, I want the Tmobile version because of the QI charging (and not crappy pma) and the unlocked bootloader. I should still get LTE on the ATT network with a tmo phone yes?
Im hoping with the impending g4 release, prices on the g3 will fall sharply and I can give it a shot again.

shaxs said:
Hello All!
I currently have a G2 on ATT. I had bought a used G3 about 6 months ago and was disappointed in battery life and performance- felt it was a little stuttery. My best friend has 2 G3s and claims I had a defective one as he gets great battery and performance. G2 is a great device but I am just getting bored with it.
I was curious how this phone is holding up a year after its release and if performance has gotten better with Lolipop? How is the battery life doing these days?
Lastly, any clue as to why the tmobile variant is so much more expensive than any other? Seems to be about $100 more than the att, verizon, us cellular, and sprint versions. Even though I am on ATT, I want the Tmobile version because of the QI charging (and not crappy pma) and the unlocked bootloader. I should still get LTE on the ATT network with a tmo phone yes?
Im hoping with the impending g4 release, prices on the g3 will fall sharply and I can give it a shot again.
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It's hard to change from G2 to any other phone since G2 has the best battery life (Droid Turbo is probably only phone which has better battery life).
If I was you, I would stick with G2 until prices of G4 drops down, then buy G4. six more months wont kill you and G2 is still a beast phone.
Even i own G3 and I love it, I dont consider G3 an upgrade over G2 (upgrade is something that works better and works properly.) G3 still has some errors which can be fixed by rooting, but G4 hasn't got any of those errors and is even better than G3.
But if you really got some extra cash that bothers you, you can buy G3.

I recommend sticking with the g2. I switched carriers and was forced to buy the g3(g2 not available on us cellular) and performance/battery life is hard to get used to when coming from a g2. In my experience the lollipop update made battery life worse. If you are bored with it just try a new ROM until the price on the g4 drops.
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Do y'all think the G4 will be that much better of a phone over the G3?

shaxs said:
Do y'all think the G4 will be that much better of a phone over the G3?
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Yes it definitely is, especially the screen and camera.

Tomogitarist said:
...G3 still has some errors which can be fixed by rooting, ...
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What errors are you talking about?

Altair681 said:
What errors are you talking about?
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Overheating, oversharpening and lag can all be fixed by rooting and installing necessary mods.

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Overheating, oversharpening and lag can all be fixed by rooting and installing necessary mods.
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Ah alright. Mods for xposed or is just rooting enough? Could you post some links?
cheers

Altair681 said:
Ah alright. Mods for xposed or is just rooting enough? Could you post some links?
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Xposed isn't necessary. I dont use it because it's still buggy. Rooting will be enough.
Mods:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/fix-sharpening-mod-script-1-0-beta-t2957648
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/thermal-mod-t2907363
You might also install custom LG's rom which will provide faster and more responsive OS. (like CloudyROM or Androidnow HD G3)

Everyone is telling you to wait for the G4 but it will have even worse battery than the G3 due to its larger screen size (since battery life seems to be your main concern)
I had the G2 (loved it) and now have the G3 and a year later it seems to be running smoother than when i just purchased it. and with the one year mark approaching i will be buying a new battery (cant do that with the G2) although i can go a full day with one charge.
Camera is better than G2
Screen is larger and better res than G2
Processor is better
Ram is better
Expandable memory
replaceable battery
Did i mention wireless charging?
and IMO it looks better than the G2
So you decide. :good:
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bootloader is not an issue, it can be bumped and have custom roms on any variant.

ingoljosh said:
Everyone is telling you to wait for the G4 but it will have even worse battery than the G3 due to its larger screen size (since battery life seems to be your main concern)
I had the G2 (loved it) and now have the G3 and a year later it seems to be running smoother than when i just purchased it. and with the one year mark approaching i will be buying a new battery (cant do that with the G2) although i can go a full day with one charge.
Camera is better than G2
Screen is larger and better res than G2
Processor is better
Ram is better
Expandable memory
replaceable battery
Did i mention wireless charging?
and IMO it looks better than the G2
So you decide. :good:
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bootloader is not an issue, it can be bumped and have custom roms on any variant.
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I had the att version g3 and sold it for these reasons:
- locked bootloader so no custom roms (at the time)
- laggy , stuttering performance
- poor battery life
- stupid pma wireless charging instead of qi standard
As in understand it, the bootloader for att and other variants has been bypassed and now there are custom roms.
Now that there are custom roms, is the overall over heating, lag, and stuttering been fixed? I have no problem rooting and exploring new roms and tweaks.
I can buy the t-mobile version to enable standard qi wireless charging. Will I get lte on att using the d851 t-mobile version?
Battery life may be better now with custom roms amd now that I know how to use greenify and read battery stats better. Or I can get an extended battery as I don't mind a thicker phone.
I predict the g3 will drop to the $250 range soon and for that price it seems worth it.
Thoughts?

ingoljosh said:
Everyone is telling you to wait for the G4 but it will have even worse battery than the G3 due to its larger screen size (since battery life seems to be your main concern)
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The G4 has the same size screen as the G3.
I have had the G3 since launch day, coming from a G2, and it still looks in brand new condition without ever using a case. I have the while model, so you can't see fine scratches on the back like a dark glossy phone. Absolutely no hairline scratches on the display either, and with custom ROMs performance is fantastic.

geoff5093 said:
The G4 has the same size screen as the G3.
I have had the G3 since launch day, coming from a G2, and it still looks in brand new condition without ever using a case. I have the while model, so you can't see fine scratches on the back like a dark glossy phone. Absolutely no hairline scratches on the display either, and with custom ROMs performance is fantastic.
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You're absolutely right. I think i meant larger than the G2
but even though the G3 and G4 have the exact same screen
it manages to drain battery faster than the G3
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geoff5093 said:
The G4 has the same size screen as the G3.
I have had the G3 since launch day, coming from a G2, and it still looks in brand new condition without ever using a case. I have the while model, so you can't see fine scratches on the back like a dark glossy phone. Absolutely no hairline scratches on the display either, and with custom ROMs performance is fantastic.
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Which roms do you recommend? There are a few lg specific features I really enjoy like qslide apps. I have cloudy on my g2 and like it a lot. Should I stick with cloudy or what else do you recommend?

shaxs said:
Which roms do you recommend? There are a few lg specific features I really enjoy like qslide apps. I have cloudy on my g2 and like it a lot. Should I stick with cloudy or what else do you recommend?
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Jasmine ROM is a great stock-based ROM. I'm on BlissPop which is an AOSP 5.1.1 ROM, so no LG apps.

shaxs said:
Which roms do you recommend? There are a few lg specific features I really enjoy like qslide apps. I have cloudy on my g2 and like it a lot. Should I stick with cloudy or what else do you recommend?
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Best bet is stick to cloudy, buttery smooth and will let you keep all the lg features you like (ie.Qslide)

Well I bit the bullet and bought an "excellent condition" (so says the ad) LG G3 D851 for tmobile for $200! It doesnt have a charger and is missing the back camera lens (a $10, 3 minute fix), but all the other pictures look great. I checked the iemei with Tmobile by using their tool and talking to their chat and they say it is clear.
Right now it is on simple mobile which I assume means it is unlocked already right?

shaxs said:
Well I bit the bullet and bought an "excellent condition" (so says the ad) LG G3 D851 for tmobile for $200! It doesnt have a charger and is missing the back camera lens (a $10, 3 minute fix), but all the other pictures look great. I checked the iemei with Tmobile by using their tool and talking to their chat and they say it is clear.
Right now it is on simple mobile which I assume means it is unlocked already right?
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If T-Mobile gave you the OK with the IMEI it should be unlocked and ready for activation.

ingoljosh said:
If T-Mobile gave you the OK with the IMEI it should be unlocked and ready for activation.
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They said the imei was clear, but would not give me an unlock code. They said I have to have an account with them to request it or the original account holder has to request it. If it is not already unlocked I will buy an unlock code.

shaxs said:
They said the imei was clear, but would not give me an unlock code. They said I have to have an account with them to request it or the original account holder has to request it. If it is not already unlocked I will buy an unlock code.
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If you already bought the phone and they cleared the IMEI just sign up for one of their plans and they will provide the unlock code. no need to purchase a code first.
I'm telling you from experience, i bought a nexus4 a couple years back and was locked on T-Mobile took it to AT&T (My carrier at the time) and they provided an unlock code. didn't have to buy one. They were both GSM phones though, i don't know if that matters.

Anyone thinking of switching

28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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Since*
Also hate autocorrect on this thing. Keyboard is harder to type on. I had no problems on the lg g3
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The Verizon G4 section is quiet, but the general G4 forums are much more active.
I bought mine on Edge as well (albeit from Best Buy). This is the first I recall hearing of a 30 day return period, vs 14 days. If so, that's pretty nice.
What are your priorities in a phone? I chose the G4 largely based on the SD card and removable battery, along with the camera.
The rumors I've heard seem to imply no SD card on the Note 5, IIRC. And possibly no removable battery. Do you want a stylus?

RedOCtobyr said:
The Verizon G4 section is quiet, but the general G4 forums are much more active.
I bought mine on Edge as well (albeit from Best Buy). This is the first I recall hearing of a 30 day return period, vs 14 days. If so, that's pretty nice.
What are your priorities in a phone? I chose the G4 largely based on the SD card and removable battery, along with the camera.
The rumors I've heard seem to imply no SD card on the Note 5, IIRC. And possibly no removable battery. Do you want a stylus?
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I think youre right, its probably 14days.
I chose this phone because of camera and because i had the lg g3 before this. This phone seems a little slower than the g3. Ive had so many problems with the keyboard. Im a fast texter but this phone has me make so many typos. Sometimes the space bar won't even insert space after touching it. Seems as if it isnt very responsive to touch as the g3 was. Battery life is also very bad, Not that bad but i had more hours on the g3. The stylus wouldn't be bad i just like the bigger screen. I dont like the fact that the note 5 might not have a removable battery or support sd cards. The note 4 seems to be my best choice and suits more needs more but i just love the lg g3 and i figured that this one would be amazing. But the way the touch screen response is annoying me.
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The only reason I am sticking with my G4 for now is because of the camera, it's amazing. I'm leaning more towards the Moto X Pure though.

You're going to return it.. Why? You're talking about switching to the note 5... The note 4 doesn't even have permanent root. Won't exactly get much better.
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zagan131313 said:
28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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Yeah you're going to switch to a phone that doesn't even have root and will never have an unlocked BL whereas the G4 has a chance to be unlocked?

zagan131313 said:
28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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I do agree that it makes me nervous that we are 2 months in and still not much activity, especially compared to the G2 and G3, it just shows that LG phones are becoming less popular it seems.
Going to the Note 5 because of this though is completely idiotic, look at the Note 4. It still doesn't have root.

As an admitted flashaholic, I am a bit frustrated with the current state of our devices. However, the camera is so good, and I really like the leather back, that I may be satiated if Xposed starts working. I am also keeping my eyes on news of the LG built Nexus 5 (2015). I have seen conflicting reports about the camera it will be using. If it's the same, or close to the G4, I will be all over it, as long as it's supported on the Verizon network.

I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.

joshw0000 said:
I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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Not exactly. The battery is about the same on the Style (Pure, whatever). The Play edition is getting the crazy big battery. Honestly, I wouldn't have my G4 if not for the fact that the 1) Play is not available in the US and 2) the Style mysteriously has the smaller battery of the two devices.
Otherwise,... I'm really quite happy with my G4. It's definitely got bloat... but it's nowhere near the nastiness that was TouchWiz (my last phone was an S5), and I've been pleasantly surprised at how little it has, and how much of it is easily disabled. Woohoo! no more baby detector!!

DarkWolf747 said:
Not exactly. The battery is about the same on the Style (Pure, whatever). The Play edition is getting the crazy big battery. Honestly, I wouldn't have my G4 if not for the fact that the 1) Play is not available in the US and 2) the Style mysteriously has the smaller battery of the two devices.
Otherwise,... I'm really quite happy with my G4. It's definitely got bloat... but it's nowhere near the nastiness that was TouchWiz (my last phone was an S5), and I've been pleasantly surprised at how little it has, and how much of it is easily disabled. Woohoo! no more baby detector!!
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Oops, crossed my facts. 3000 mah should be plenty with Turbo charging. The phone is a beast (in terms of specs). Add in Pure Android and (hopefully) and unlockable bootloader and its the right phone for me.
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I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
Thanks.

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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
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I'm thinking it'll be a true unlocked phone like the i6 and Nexus 6.
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shahsmerdis said:
but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
Thanks.
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Oh, it will be available on Verizon, just not FROM Verizon, if you know what I mean.

[Q] LG G3 for 2016?

Hi guys, thinking of purchasing a brand new LG G3 since I'm not happy with the Zenfone Selfie (looks better on paper but lags).
Would like to know/get some feedback from long time users regarding this unit. How has it been for you?
I will not be regularly flashing roms (I no longer have the time for this), but I will flash the most stable rom around (doesn't matter even if its kitkat )
I need good GPS (i use google maps for work, daily)
I need dual sim. (id have gotten the nexus 5x.)
is the g3 still good for 2016?
I don't play games but I multi task a lot. Facebook messenger (unfortunately need it for work), Facebook pages manager, Maps, Calls, text messaging, viber. On my zefone selfie, I get lags. My nexus 7 actually runs smoother!
Thank you! id appreciate any reply.
* I am afraid to buy the G4 because of the bootloop issues.
* g5 is out of the budget

honestly that depends on the price you're paying for the g3... if you can root it and flash fulmics, then you'll get better performance than stock kitkat.

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For a two year phone the g3
is not a bad purchase fella. Lots of ROMs to flash here on XDA to. Rockin the RR rom 6.0.1 at the min. from my experience with it Its the shiit so go get one ,,,[emoji12]
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How much you get G3? If it is same as Redmi note 3, take the Xiaomi

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How much you get G3? If it is same as Redmi note 3, take the Xiaomi
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that depends.. if you want a better camera, removable battery, nfc, a 2k screen go with g3.
if you want excellent battery backup, fingerprint scanner, better gaming performance, then go with redmi note 3. but if you're not a fan of miui, then you might wanna root it and go with custom rom path...
redmi note 3 also has excellent developer support imo.

dont buy better go with one plus one ... 2k display in this device ruined the true potential of the chip ... it drains battery and gaming performance also gets down as GPU has to render on 2k display ,,, OPO has same spec with 1080p display .. which is better .. battery backup is awesome .. but camera is no better than G3 ...

Thanks guys for the suggestions.
I'm not much into camera or gaming. I almost never play games. looking for a unit that can handle mutli tasking well (sms/facebook/viber/maps).
Will look into the other
will definitely flash a custom rom, and get as close to google (no other stuff) as possible.

no14me said:
How much you get G3? If it is same as Redmi note 3, take the Xiaomi
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G3 3gb 32gb dual sim = about $255
Redmi Note 3 3Gb 32gGb = about $$205
should I get the redmi?

Anne_Droid said:
G3 3gb 32gb dual sim = about $255
Redmi Note 3 3Gb 32gGb = about $$205
should I get the redmi?
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I was choosing between G3 and Redmi 3S and i went for G3 (because i had experience with Nexus 4 and G2).
I am happy with my G3, however the Xiaomi phones are excellent. You should try them out first before making the decision.

I have a G3 with 6.0 MM v30N stock firmware ( 3 GB ram) and I have to say that if you use a lot apps like Google Maps with gps always on and using 4G too you will have a big battery drain due to 2k display also considerig that you use also socials like Facebook and Messenger a lot, so I don't know if G3 is the best choose for you right now cause I think you wouldn't be able to cover all the day with your use of the phone. I hope I have helped you and sorry for my english

G3 is a great phone but it is really great for taking pictures !
At the time (2-3 years ago) it was considered as the best of its class ... with similar or better perfomances than Apple & Samsung for quality pictures and clips.
Speaking of camera, the only thing nicer in G4, the follower to G3, is that it supports camera2 api (useful for manual settings). But then, there were so many problems of "motherboard giving boot loop issues" that the G4 is really useless or rather a bet on money (except if your mother board has a serial starting with numbers 505 up to 508 ...., then you are sure you pulled the wrong number and will have bootloop issue and death.
Beware, every "new" phone, though really expensive, comes bundled with deadly issues ! G4, for sure, but Samsung as well ... like S5 (the equivalent of G3, or S6 = G5 or S7 ... A search for "common problems" is really creepy !
Back to G3, a nice thing also, it that the back is not "glued" as in Sony Z1-Z2- etc. or Samsung S5-S6-S7 or plenty new phones. So, ok, you cannot take a bath with it or take pictures underwater, but so the battery can be taken away and changed easily (a plain second battery .always charged ... is a nice thing).
For the rest, all 2-3 years old top phones ( handle quite well everything common such as calling, surfing, playing, etc ... (same thing as with PC). Except if you are a gamer, dont get fooled by power !
Development for G3 will decrease quite rapidly because it is already an end of life product and it will be only occasionally developped by developpers who really love new things and new possibilites (Think of Nougat coming out these days)
Launched with KK android system, fully supporting LP it handles quite well MM (=Marshmallow)!
There's plenty to say yet, but everything really depends on your needs and the money you have.
This is just as buying a second hand car .... AND DON'T FORGET TO GOOGLE for " xyz COMMON PROBLEMS" where xyz is replaced by G3, or ... G4, or Gç, or S5, S6, S7 (for Samsung)
Have a nice day !

i had galaxy j7 2016 and i switched it with LG G3 , really happy with it

There's some catch imo: Cracks shows up in sides, back cover is easily cracks.... But mostly great phone for office worker, nice display, loud speaker, easy to handle, double tap to wake is nice, like in meeting, having it on the table, double tap doesn't distract as much as having phone in hands, and double tap to sleep... As multitask use is decent, but more ram might be needed, I think. Switching from one to other apps is good too. Now some custom roms have dual-screen options (two apps in one screen), but I can't remember which one...

One plus 3.......
The best phone with 400 bucks
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cultofluna said:
One plus 3.......
The best phone with 400 bucks
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unfortunately out of my current budget.

cultofluna said:
One plus 3.......
The best phone with 400 bucks
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Kinda wish the G3 had Oneplus 3 stats.
It would easily be the best phone of 2014 again and 2015 and 2016!

Anne_Droid said:
G3 3gb 32gb dual sim = about $255
Redmi Note 3 3Gb 32gGb = about $$205
should I get the redmi?
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G3 for camera and 2K display
redmi note 3 for general performance and battery (and save 50$ :laugh

beeduq said:
There's some catch imo: Cracks shows up in sides, back cover is easily cracks.... But mostly great phone for office worker, nice display, loud speaker, easy to handle, double tap to wake is nice, like in meeting, having it on the table, double tap doesn't distract as much as having phone in hands, and double tap to sleep... As multitask use is decent, but more ram might be needed, I think. Switching from one to other apps is good too. Now some custom roms have dual-screen options (two apps in one screen), but I can't remember which one...
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" loud speaker " ... as you say. And the G3 got it !
And I even set all volumes to 64 with LG G3 Volume Booster mod !

with the amount of tweaks you can make the G3 depending on the version out perform a lot of the other flagships

It is still relevant in 2016, or even 2017. G3 is on the list that will get Nougat.