[Q] Upgrading from Nexus 4 to LG G Pro. Should I? - LG Optimus G Pro

Hi friends.
I currently own a Nexus 4 and I have loved this device for a REALLY long time. However, now I think its time to upgrade. My upgrade is due to the following 4 reasons ONLY.
1) Screen Size. I want a bigger screen size than my N4
2) Available Memory. 16 GB. Every now and then its full. Cant expand. I take lotsa pictures and videos.
3) Camera. Oh I hate my phone whenever I open the camera app. The camera itself is just plain pathetic. It just cant focus AT ALL. The pictures are 95% of the times blur. No my hands are not shaky. But this phone requires your hands to be trained on a snipper perhaps. And the pics are always dull, without life.
4) Battery. Need to charge it quite a lot. Although I am not a heavy user at all. But KitKat has ruined the phone. Moreover, I do NOT play games at all and never use data. If it had a removable battery, I would have easily charged the extra battery and use it on the go.
I am thinking of LG Optimus G pro for the following reasons.
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed in my country. Say its costs even lower than $280, unlocked. Which is a steal at this price.
2) Camera. I dont know but have read in the reviews that it's not on par with S4, however it miles better than N4.
3) Battery. Again, tech site and customers reviews say it is awesome. And ya, its removable. Lets say if it fails in a couple of year, i can easily buy one and replace it.
4) Got a micro SD card slot upto 64 Gig. So memory shouldn't be a problem.
5) 1080p. Of course an upgrade from the 720p I currently use.
6) OTG, for even more space.
Prices of other phones in my country.
LG G2: $440
Galaxy Note 3 Neo: $400 (without 3G version)
Galaxy S4: $450
OnePlus One: *ock Teaser lol
As you can see, all these phones are priced quite above G Pro, so I am toooo inclined towards the G Pro as it has KILLER specs at such a low price. Moreover, I don't much care about Android updates. But still would want to know, have you guys gotten KITKAT? If yes, which variant do you own? Since there are a few 988, F240 etc
I would request you guys to let me know how the camera is. The camera is very important for me, so please tel me your experiences. And is there any other flaw you guys found with the G Pro that you suggest me not opting for it?
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to G Pro. Please suggest.

Based on those reasons, yes, the G Pro would serve you very well. The only thing the N4 has over the G Pro is the Google Android. The most annoying issue with 4.1.2 on the G Pro was the crappy BT audio quality, and that has been fixed in the recent 4.4.2 update. IMO, it is one of the best values for the $$ in smartphones.

My 2 cents:
I upgraded from an optimus G(which is very much like the N4), definitely loving this phone. The size takes a while getting used to if you don't have big hands(I'm not a big guy) but the thinness of the phone helps a lot. The camera is really good, way better than the OG(and the N4).Kitkat brought a few more shooting modes and options (I really like the dual cam option), check the picture thread in the main section for samples). Battery life is good, especially in your case since you don't do gaming. The one low point for this phone is dev support. There aren't many custom roms available in comparison to the N4, so if you are a flashaholic i suggest you look at the dev section first to see what's available. We have 3 flavors of stock kitkat currently(1 for the 240 variant, 1 for the E988 and 1 for the E980). Personally I am using Spinx kitkat by radeonmaya which is based on the 240K. Rom is really nice with added goodies(slide aside, several themes, weather effects on the lockscreen), downside is the main thread is in LG viet forum so you need google translate to navigate it. Plus installing is a bit of a pain(need to flash rom, modded stock kernel, an edited build prop and modem) but in the end it works really good. Also there seems to be issues with the recoveries. Lets say you need to do a backup suing CWM/Phils. When donde you reboot to system, but for some strange reason the phone bootloops back to recovery. TWRP is the only recovery that i have used that gets me out of the bootloop and back on the rom. Also when flashing your files need to be on the internal storage and not on the SD.
If you don't mind that the i say go for it, for that price it's a great deal.

filthykid said:
I am thinking of LG Optimus G pro for the following reasons.
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed in my country. Say its costs even lower than $280, unlocked. Which is a steal at this price.
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to G Pro. Please suggest.
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At this price, you won't get anything better than GPro,,,go for it..
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manav_patial said:
At this price, you won't get anything better than GPro,,,go for it..
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Yes. I upgraded wife's phone from N4 to OGP in October 2013. Actually I bought it from craigslist for $275 for myself but she couldn't get her eye off it as soon as I brought it home. So she got the OGP and I got a G2 a month later. It was definitely a worthy upgrade and we took many family pictures with the OGP. It's a very huge phone though so it may take a while to get used to. That may be less of an issue to women because they usually have a purse wherever they go... I got the E980 unlocked with 32GB storage.

Go for it
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KennyWRX said:
Based on those reasons, yes, the G Pro would serve you very well. The only thing the N4 has over the G Pro is the Google Android. The most annoying issue with 4.1.2 on the G Pro was the crappy BT audio quality, and that has been fixed in the recent 4.4.2 update. IMO, it is one of the best values for the $$ in smartphones.
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I don't much care about latest android updates. After owning a Nexus device, I now know how unimportant these updates are. Since past a year n a half, Google hasn't released any major updates. They rather have FIXED issues on it (except for a few features). So I care less now.
luisoman2000 said:
My 2 cents:
I upgraded from an optimus G(which is very much like the N4), definitely loving this phone. The size takes a while getting used to if you don't have big hands(I'm not a big guy)...... when flashing your files need to be on the internal storage and not on the SD.
If you don't mind that the i say go for it, for that price it's a great deal.
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I do not ROOT or flash ROMs on my phone. Have never done it and don't plan to. I already think the features LG G Pro has on top of android are very handy and useful (Quick Memo etc). So I guess I won't be rooting my device
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At this price, you won't get anything better than GPro,,,go for it..
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Thank Bro. Will grab one this weekend.
View92612 said:
Yes. I upgraded wife's phone from N4 to OGP in October 2013. Actually I bought it from craigslist for $275 for myself but she couldn't get her eye off it as soon as I brought it home. So she got the OGP and I got a G2 a month later. It was definitely a worthy upgrade and we took many family pictures with the OGP. It's a very huge phone though so it may take a while to get used to. That may be less of an issue to women because they usually have a purse wherever they go... I got the E980 unlocked with 32GB storage.
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Ahan. I guess I should go for G Pro now.
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Bdw, what do u guys have to say about the build quality? Speakers etc.
Speakers were very bad in N4. I guess due to the low price may be.
Plus, COLORRRR... Which color do u guys own?
I am thinking to get white one. Saw both on youtube and black one looks more like cheap plastic whereas white one looks classy. I know it all comes down to ones preferences but want to know which one do u own.

I own the dark blue and i like it, but the phone does look good in white.
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I got a white E980
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I have white and I love it
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I've had both. Hands down the OGP is better.
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luisoman2000 said:
I own the dark blue and i like it, but the phone does look good in white.
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polar2792 said:
I got a white E980
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I have white and I love it
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Alright. Thanks.
How's the built quality? Speakers esp.
And how long does it takes to charge the battery from ZERO to 100%?
Furthermore, whats with the brightness going dim when phone getting hot? Never heard of it before on any handset.
"Problem: Overheating and screen dimming
Some owners have reported overheating issues with the Optimus G Pro. This is another complaint that’s becoming increasingly common with all smartphone models. There isn’t room for a fan, and as devices get more powerful they require more juice and they inevitably get hotter. When the Optimus G Pro gets too hot it will start to dim the screen to help reduce the temperature. In extreme cases it might shut off completely."
SOURCE: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/lg-optimus-g-pro-problems/#!UOC3j

ackliph said:
I've had both. Hands down the OGP is better.
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Really? How about the camera? 99% of the reviewers have said it's bad. And the image samples on internet are very very cold.

filthykid said:
Really? How about the camera? 99% of the reviewers have said it's bad. And the image samples on internet are very very cold.
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As for brightness, the screen does dim a bit when getting very hot, or it wont let you set 100% brightness. It only happened once to me while playing ingress, could only set brightness to 85%. Build quality seems solid, and the speaker is decently loud.
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I switched from nexus 4 to ogp and it was a great decision. The ogp is very powerful and the best part is that you can add a zero lemon battery case that gives me three days of good use without a charge.
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Upgrade to the G Pro it's great
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I don't listen to the external speakers often. I had an HTC EVO 4G from 4 years ago busted speakers as soon as i got em. Then had a HTC EVO 4G LTE 2 years ago and busted those speakers. These havent busted yet so I'd say they're decent.
The 2nd EVO was also bent. This phone appears to be rock solid so far. Backs not glass so you don't have to worry about that
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luisoman2000 said:
As for brightness, the screen does dim a bit when getting very hot, or it wont let you set 100% brightness. It only happened once to me while playing ingress, could only set brightness to 85%. Build quality seems solid, and the speaker is decently loud.
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Thanks man. Appreciate your help and effort.
asl9622 said:
I switched from nexus 4 to ogp and it was a great decision. The ogp is very powerful and the best part is that you can add a zero lemon battery case that gives me three days of good use without a charge.
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That will make it bulky. Don't like bulky phones
rjmxtech said:
Upgrade to the G Pro it's greatH
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Aye aye captain.
polar2792 said:
I don't listen to the external speakers often. I had an HTC EVO 4G from 4 years ago busted speakers as soon as i got em. Then had a HTC EVO 4G LTE 2 years ago and busted those speakers. These havent busted yet so I'd say they're decent.
The 2nd EVO was also bent. This phone appears to be rock solid so far. Backs not glass so you don't have to worry about that
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Cool. thanks for the input. How long does it take to charge the phone from 0 to 100%

With the standard charger about 2 hours. I use a 1000mA charger at work and it takes a bit more. Standard charger is 1.5 mA if im not mistaken.
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G Pro all the way, for sure.
One thing is important to consider. If you ever want to use custom roms you will notice we don't have many. But, the ones we have rock.
Another thing, before starting flashing custom roms try to read as much as possible. This device is a bit tricky as we do not have the bootloader unlock. Actually, it is bypassed.
Thus, making backups is mandatory to save you from headaches.
I, personally am running @tdm Pace Plus 4.4.3 and am enjoying very much. Qremote is working properly and @ballhandslow 13MP Camera is also working very well.
By the way, if after flashing the camera you do not see it at the drawer, re-enable the stock. Then you might see two cameras. Check which one is 8MP and which is 13MP and disable it. Everything is gonna work fine.

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What are the features of this phone to persuade me to buy it?

I'm planning on getting an htc one in the next day or two but I'm still open to different phones. So what are some cool features of this phone other than the big screen?
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Well id say the customizability on the stock rom is second to none. Everything down to icons and size on the homescreen can be changed. Looking around this thing ive seen customization options ive never seen on modded roms much less stock. The multitasking with the qslide apps can come in handy here and there. Plus it supports wireless charging out of the box something thats likely impossible on the one due to the aluminum unibody. The camera is better hands down in every review ive seen and while the screen is bigger, it seems brighter and more true to life (only got to play with the one for about 20mins while I waited for a rep at att). Also battery life is amazing I get a full days use no problem. Plus my experience with phones has shown that samsung seriously lacks in build quality and duribility compared to lg. Ive said many times, u wanna see the real difference between lg and samsung take one device from each and throwem down a hallway... while htc has always been a little better, the one seems indestructible lol I spent weeks going between the sgs4, htc one, lgogpro and sony xperia z. Based on the total package and especially price lgogpro is the way to go.
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Plus my experience with phones has shown that samsung seriously lacks in build quality and duribility compared to lg
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Yes, can confirm, LG is better in terms of h/w, than software updates is their wellknown weakest point
In addition: you get a 1.7 Ghz quad-core CPU, a removable battery, 32 GB of storage with an additional 64 GB available via an SD card slot.
I prefer this phone to the HTC One because of its removable battery and SD card slot.
I prefer this phone to the Galaxy S4 because of its lack of TouchWiz garbage and Samsung shovelware (yes, there is some LG shovelware in this phone, but not much).
Finally, try watching an HD video on this phone's screen. It's almost beautiful enough to make a grown man weep.
I have a one to but its too small coming from the note 2. I used my upgrade and got the g pro. With some mods and tweaks its a great device. If we get this boot loader cracked and get aosp it will be the best device around. I say get it and if you don't like it, trade it in for the one.
The screen on the g pro gets brighter than the one. I have the one and the gpro yeah the one's hardware is sexier sure but the gpro is great for a road warrior like me with that awesome battery. Each phone has its pluses. If u want something that's in between get the s4. I had it for a couple weeks. If u can get past that touchwiz crap it's pretty awesome too. The gpro is my favorite of the 3. That led built into the home button is effing sweet.
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The camera fuzz you think that'll be fixed with an update?
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rambo8987 said:
The camera fuzz you think that'll be fixed with an update?
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What camera fuzz?
rambo8987 said:
The camera fuzz you think that'll be fixed with an update?
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You mean the software update that wipes the hand oil off your lens for you? I don't think we'll see any phone updates that do that any time soon.
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Why did you choose the HTC One over the LG G2?

I keep wondering if I should of went the LG G2 for the screen, processer, battery life, etc.
exzacklyright said:
I keep wondering if I should of went the LG G2 for the screen, processer, battery life, etc.
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Because screw bloated TouchWiz and it's crappy aesthetics. Seriously, the LG G2 is the same reason lol
Hardware wise, that LG G2 is amazing though. But those features are useless to me. HTC Sense has enough OEM skin features for me to use my phone daily.
DroidOnRoids said:
Because screw bloated TouchWiz and it's crappy aesthetics. Seriously, the LG G2 is the same reason lol
Hardware wise, that LG G2 is amazing though. But those features are useless to me. HTC Sense has enough OEM skin features for me to use my phone daily.
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Yeah but if you root and install a custom rom that's hardly an issue. Plus i heard they're getting 4.4 in NOV/DEC.
Metal. Heavy metal. And I looked seriously at the G2. I have had Samsung, used Nova launcher, I was happy with it. There are features this has though..blazing fast, GPS radio locks instantly, some others. I hate the camera, sorry not a fan, HTC could have done better. My Inc from 3 years ago beat it hands down. Heck, I think my old LG VX8300 beat it. Remember the "tank"? I hear that the S5 will be metal, and if it is, I'm leaving y'all. I'm just tired of the soft plastic crap.
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Metal. Heavy metal. And I looked seriously at the G2. I have had Samsung, used Nova launcher, I was happy with it. There are features this has though..blazing fast, GPS radio locks instantly, some others. I hate the camera, sorry not a fan, HTC could have done better. My Inc from 3 years ago beat it hands down. Heck, I think my old LG VX8300 beat it. Remember the "tank"? I hear that the S5 will be metal, and if it is, I'm leaving y'all. I'm just tired of the soft plastic crap.
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Hmm...your camera might have a hardware problem.
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brholt6 said:
Hmm...your camera might have a hardware problem.
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Maybe. It doesn't do the purple thing. Pictures just are not very sharp. Out of focus.
I owned a LG phone years ago an old flip phone and was not happy with the build quality as both screens cracked in no time from being in my pocket. Where as my Motorola razr was a tank and could take abuse . Since then I swore no more LG phones . It's a personal choice for me.
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Well in this case I wanted both plus I was eyeing the note 3. However with the deal at best buy I snagged this. Plus I signed up for something that allowed me a $50 bb card if I used them to upgrade. Total price: $3.74
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I've been a Motorola guy for a long time. When my upgrade rolled around in August, I was extremely happy that Verizon had finally gotten the One. I decided to pick it up in blue while it was on sale for $50 at Best Buy. Kinda regret getting the blue, but whatever..... The build quality is the only reason. It is astounding.
Build quality for sure.
Blue was still better looking than the white imo. If they had black, would've done that all day
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[Q] Should I actually get this phone?

Hey guys, so I'm upgrading from my old galaxy s3 tomorrow to Verizon's Edge program with my family. I'm a big multimedia user for my smartphone but I equally care very highly about durability, design, and future-proofing (raw performance). Therefore, I'm deciding between the Nexus 6 and the M9. Here's my breakdown of pros and cons:
Motorola Nexus 6 (24.99 on Verizon edge)
+1440p display
+/-phablet (I could see myself enjoying the size for videos)
+stock Google
+more likely will receive os updates earliest
-only somewhat metal construction
-about to be replaced by the next nexus only too soon
HTC One M9 (also 24.99 on Verizon edge)
+brand new
+snapdragon 810 latest cpu and gpu
+best build quality / design (big plus for me)
-eh screen size compared to competition
-1080p screen (will this really bite me in the next few years?)
-apparently a problematic device with regards to quality control?
Now: I'm especially concerned with some of the problems I've read with the m9 with regards to the poor battery performance, breaking of turbo charge with recent updates, the under-saturation of the color gamut which I didn't like seeing on store models, possible overheating which I heard was fixed before launch. Are these issues still plaguing the phone and would you stray away from the device altogether if I could instead choose the nexus 6?
Thanks in advance!
I love it, and when we get 5.1, it will be even better.
Frankly, I'm surprised that as a big-screen loving Sammy user, you don't have the Note on your short list.
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katana5 said:
Hey guys, so I'm upgrading from my old galaxy s3 tomorrow to Verizon's Edge program with my family. I'm a big multimedia user for my smartphone but I equally care very highly about durability, design, and future-proofing (raw performance). Therefore, I'm deciding between the Nexus 6 and the M9. Here's my breakdown of pros and cons:
Motorola Nexus 6 (24.99 on Verizon edge)
+1440p display
+/-phablet (I could see myself enjoying the size for videos)
+stock Google
+more likely will receive os updates earliest
-only somewhat metal construction
-about to be replaced by the next nexus only too soon
HTC One M9 (also 24.99 on Verizon edge)
+brand new
+snapdragon 810 latest cpu and gpu
+best build quality / design (big plus for me)
-eh screen size compared to competition
-1080p screen (will this really bite me in the next few years?)
-apparently a problematic device with regards to quality control?
Now: I'm especially concerned with some of the problems I've read with the m9 with regards to the poor battery performance, breaking of turbo charge with recent updates, the under-saturation of the color gamut which I didn't like seeing on store models, possible overheating which I heard was fixed before launch. Are these issues still plaguing the phone and would you stray away from the device altogether if I could instead choose the nexus 6?
Thanks in advance!
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I have held more than my fair share of m9 and not one has had a build quality issue let alone a single dead pixel. The latter actually amazed me.
With 5.1, HTC added this...
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As much as I love HTC (aside from one Motorola and one Samsung I have had HTC phones since the PPC 6700 in 2005) and how much I love Sense, I would say the Nexus 6 or LG4. I'm really wishing my One M8 would have lasted a bit longer so I could have gotten the LG4, even with the plastic chassis. My One M9 has really been a sore subject lately, I haven't been happy with it all. I definitely got one of the terrible battery life version. It seems, I to be great battery life or like mine and absolutely abysmal battery life. Plus the cell signal on mine is pretty sad and likes to drop signal/stay in 1x mode. Coming from the Samsung, it'll feel like a child's toy compared to the M9 though, metal chassis phones feel so much more sturdy.
I was hating on the M9 hard at first, on launch day, went to Verizon, and compared to the M8 the heat was shocking and wasn't happy at all.
I decided to go for it, and I couldn't be more happy.
I loved my M8, and got great battery life on it, and at first my M8 was getting better battery life, but since the update to Android 5.1 it has been such an upgrade for the M9 in terms off heat battery and performance.
As for quality, it's top notch, not a single issue to mention.
The signal on mine is wonderful.
That's my .2 cents.
Whatever you decide, I wish you the best!
I sympathize with you OP. I've been waiting quietly on this board hoping for sunshine to drop and CyanogenMod to support the phone. I don't care for sense or any skin, although I recognize sense is the best of the skins. I nevertheless prefer straight android though and could not see myself running sense for long. I'm getting by easily on my s3 running the latest cm12 nightly. But I really want this m9 and it's driving me crazy!!!
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I sympathize with you OP. I've been waiting quietly on this board hoping for sunshine to drop and CyanogenMod to support the phone. I don't care for sense or any skin, although I recognize sense is the best of the skins. I nevertheless prefer straight android though and could not see myself running sense for long. I'm getting by easily on my s3 running the latest cm12 nightly. But I really want this m9 and it's driving me crazy!!!
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Well keep note on where the Java card users are.
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Well keep note on where the Java card users are.
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Oh I'm well aware. I'm near state college, so I believe I would be shipping it off to you! It's more a matter of whether CyanogenMod supports this phone. At least for me. If I wanted to have to use the manufacturers take on the OS I'd just get an iPhone. Which at this point is something I'm considering for the very first time. Verizon locking these phones down like this is just an outrage.
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Oh I'm well aware. I'm near state college, so I believe I would be shipping it off to you! It's more a matter of whether CyanogenMod supports this phone. At least for me. If I wanted to have to use the manufacturers take on the OS I'd just get an iPhone. Which at this point is something I'm considering for the very first time. Verizon locking these phones down like this is just an outrage.
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I work in Harrisburg and sometimes travel to state college. It would be a little drive for you lol
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I work in Harrisburg and sometimes travel to state college. It would be a little drive for you lol
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Haha. I'd make it though. I go to Harrisburg sometimes for work. But like I said, it may not matter. Come on CyanogenMod!
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Nexus 6. Definitely, for 2 more years of guaranteed upgrades, and for the big badass display. Oh, and the unmatched dev support.!!
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Honestly, I would say no... And I love HTC. Have had the m7 and m8-- loved them. This phone is a POS though
EDIT: And I do have the m9 BTW (typing on it right now)-not just some dude talking ish trying to troll this thread
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Honestly, I would say no... And I love HTC. Have had the m7 and m8-- loved them. This phone is a POS though
EDIT: And I do have the m9 BTW (typing on it right now)-not just some dude talking ish trying to troll this thread
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respect your opinion.
Can give reasons why, please?
I own the M9, G4, and Nexus 6.
Screen - G4, One M9 comes in a close 2nd (I mean reaaaallly close). I'm a sucker for LCD panels and the display on the nexus to me is its weakness. Whites are yellow and pink on the nexus, but you get deeper blacks. Whites are white on the G4 and M9. The is also the dimmest and has the worst outdoor disability.
Speakers - Nexus is the best to me, way louder. HTC has the better sound quality though. G4 is loud, but I hate the placement.
Battery - Nexus and m9 tie, (about 4 hrs SOT max brightness), the G4 falls short, about 2 hr 30 mins SOT (thats the tradeoff for those extra pixels). G4 does have iphone like standby time though and you can swap batteries ...
Camera - G4 1st, the nexus comes in 5th place and the m9 comes in 100th lol. Front facing - G4 edges the m9, and the nexus comes in dead last.
Root? - m9 u can unlock if you mail to or meet someone with a java card, nexus unlocks out the box, lg g4 is still locked like fort Knox. The nexus obviously has the better development community.
UI - love stock android, but will always have a soft spot for sense. LGs ui is just OK (too quirky)
All have decent reception, but the moto nexus gives me the best.
Overall, I like all three and there is not one I particularly prefer. Love the build, software, display, and battery of the m9 (hate the camera), love the screen, form factor, and camera of the G4 (hate that it's still locked and wish it had a better battery), love the speakers, size, and software of the nexus (wish it had a better display)...
Eh. If I had the choice to go back and the G4 was out already, I wouldve tried it out first. The Nexus looks good too spec wise. Looks cheap though as I have been spoiled with HTC build quality last couple years. I miss my m8 camera though. Tried to take some firework pics and videos this past weekend with my m9, not impressed. I'm on 5.1 as well. First time Samsung (girlfriend's note 4) shat all over my HTC camera. Heat and battery life aren't quite as good, especially out of the box. Custom roms and new firmware have helped with that so it's not such a big deal now. I miss the volume of the m8 as well. Overall, coming from an s3 I think it would be awesome. From an m8, maybe not the best choice. Just my opinion. I'm trying to stick with HTC. I really love their products.
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Try the M9 , I have one is very reliable
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andybones said:
respect your opinion.
Can give reasons why, please?
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Sorry...not on here much lately due to lack of root.
Anyway, reasons:
Heat/performance/battery life-- we'll put these together as they're all intertwined. Simply put, the phone gets hot doing almost anything which causes it to eat battery, and eventually, throttle.
Camera-- it's virtually impossible to take a good picture with this phone...it's almost always out of focus. Granted, I don't have the hands of a surgeon, but I didn't have these issues on my m8.
Connectivity-- I actually returned my first m9 and got another due to this issue... But the second one had the same issues. Specifically, I'm referring to Bluetooth and miricast issues. It's hard to really button these up and put them in a box because the issues are strange and intermittent: E.g., ppl can't hear me when on BT in my car sometimes, will lose connection randomly to my BT headset while working out (have exchanged headset but the issue persists). My car will suddenly not be able to access my phone's phone book sometimes... And this never happened with my m8, when streaming something to my TV, it is ridiculously buggy, losing connection randomly with no rhyme or reason... Again, I didn't have this issue with my m8.
And finally, the coating that they put on it to make it easier to grip and scratch resistant seems to have the exact opposite effect, scratching ridiculously easily. I accidentally put it in my pocket with some change once and the back has scratches all over it.
I wouldn't get this phone. I have it and especially unrooted I feel like it was a mistake. Horrible camera, back scratches if you look at it wrong (exaggerating), and it gets hot if you are doing anything taxing on the phone. The best way to describe this phone is it's one of those girls that you thought you wanted to date but all the rumors were true and youd regret it. Im switching to the Z4v soon.
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With the latest Dev updated, many reports with 5.1 that there are a bunch of improvements, including the camera. That is my only complaint with the HTC One the past several years...camera sucks compared to iPhone. Have to say, my wife/daughter and their iPhone 6 cameras are pretty amazing.
This last update that is coming down if we can get it on the Verizon by the devs with updates...should resolve a lot of issues, like the overheating, other issues...
I've got mine on the way back and ready for Rom updating...haha

Anyone thinking of switching

28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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Also hate autocorrect on this thing. Keyboard is harder to type on. I had no problems on the lg g3
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The Verizon G4 section is quiet, but the general G4 forums are much more active.
I bought mine on Edge as well (albeit from Best Buy). This is the first I recall hearing of a 30 day return period, vs 14 days. If so, that's pretty nice.
What are your priorities in a phone? I chose the G4 largely based on the SD card and removable battery, along with the camera.
The rumors I've heard seem to imply no SD card on the Note 5, IIRC. And possibly no removable battery. Do you want a stylus?
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The Verizon G4 section is quiet, but the general G4 forums are much more active.
I bought mine on Edge as well (albeit from Best Buy). This is the first I recall hearing of a 30 day return period, vs 14 days. If so, that's pretty nice.
What are your priorities in a phone? I chose the G4 largely based on the SD card and removable battery, along with the camera.
The rumors I've heard seem to imply no SD card on the Note 5, IIRC. And possibly no removable battery. Do you want a stylus?
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I think youre right, its probably 14days.
I chose this phone because of camera and because i had the lg g3 before this. This phone seems a little slower than the g3. Ive had so many problems with the keyboard. Im a fast texter but this phone has me make so many typos. Sometimes the space bar won't even insert space after touching it. Seems as if it isnt very responsive to touch as the g3 was. Battery life is also very bad, Not that bad but i had more hours on the g3. The stylus wouldn't be bad i just like the bigger screen. I dont like the fact that the note 5 might not have a removable battery or support sd cards. The note 4 seems to be my best choice and suits more needs more but i just love the lg g3 and i figured that this one would be amazing. But the way the touch screen response is annoying me.
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The only reason I am sticking with my G4 for now is because of the camera, it's amazing. I'm leaning more towards the Moto X Pure though.
You're going to return it.. Why? You're talking about switching to the note 5... The note 4 doesn't even have permanent root. Won't exactly get much better.
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28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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Yeah you're going to switch to a phone that doesn't even have root and will never have an unlocked BL whereas the G4 has a chance to be unlocked?
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28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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I do agree that it makes me nervous that we are 2 months in and still not much activity, especially compared to the G2 and G3, it just shows that LG phones are becoming less popular it seems.
Going to the Note 5 because of this though is completely idiotic, look at the Note 4. It still doesn't have root.
As an admitted flashaholic, I am a bit frustrated with the current state of our devices. However, the camera is so good, and I really like the leather back, that I may be satiated if Xposed starts working. I am also keeping my eyes on news of the LG built Nexus 5 (2015). I have seen conflicting reports about the camera it will be using. If it's the same, or close to the G4, I will be all over it, as long as it's supported on the Verizon network.
I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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Not exactly. The battery is about the same on the Style (Pure, whatever). The Play edition is getting the crazy big battery. Honestly, I wouldn't have my G4 if not for the fact that the 1) Play is not available in the US and 2) the Style mysteriously has the smaller battery of the two devices.
Otherwise,... I'm really quite happy with my G4. It's definitely got bloat... but it's nowhere near the nastiness that was TouchWiz (my last phone was an S5), and I've been pleasantly surprised at how little it has, and how much of it is easily disabled. Woohoo! no more baby detector!!
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Not exactly. The battery is about the same on the Style (Pure, whatever). The Play edition is getting the crazy big battery. Honestly, I wouldn't have my G4 if not for the fact that the 1) Play is not available in the US and 2) the Style mysteriously has the smaller battery of the two devices.
Otherwise,... I'm really quite happy with my G4. It's definitely got bloat... but it's nowhere near the nastiness that was TouchWiz (my last phone was an S5), and I've been pleasantly surprised at how little it has, and how much of it is easily disabled. Woohoo! no more baby detector!!
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Oops, crossed my facts. 3000 mah should be plenty with Turbo charging. The phone is a beast (in terms of specs). Add in Pure Android and (hopefully) and unlockable bootloader and its the right phone for me.
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joshw0000 said:
I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
Thanks.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
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I'm thinking it'll be a true unlocked phone like the i6 and Nexus 6.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
Thanks.
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Oh, it will be available on Verizon, just not FROM Verizon, if you know what I mean.

Considering buying ZF2

Hello there,
I am considering of buying a ZF2 and I have looked around at probably 15 reviews on this phone [emoji14] I don't care about design and such but the guides were saying that the brightness and the camera are a bit bad.
Is the brightness really bad on the ZF2 ? And how does the camera do ?
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Yup, the brightness are a little bit low at max. But still manage to clearly seen under the sunlight. And the lowest brightness are still too bright it hurt my eyes in dark environments. You may use screen filter app to solve this, and started on .90 fw update, the screen filter already implemented by asus. The camera...well, not too bad at this budget. Still can't compete with other flagship phones. If you are an expert at photography, you may consider buy another phone.
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Yup, the brightness are a little bit low at max. But still manage to clearly seen under the sunlight. And the lowest brightness are still too bright it hurt my eyes in dark environments. You may use screen filter app to solve this, and started on .90 fw update, the screen filter already implemented by asus. The camera...well, not too bad at this budget. Still can't compete with other flagship phones. If you are an expert at photography, you may consider buy another phone.
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ok that's great to know that you can still see under sunlight I'm not an expert with photography just wanted to know how well it took pictures
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The camera is really bad in my opinion. Every photo I take seems to be grainy or just not all that clear. There are much better options out there. The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now. there are also good deals on the note 4 and other devices that are a year old. The brightness is a bit low, but you'll get use to it. It was a great phone for the money when it launched, but there are better options now. It is a good phone, but not great anymore.
I've always been able to use it the whole day. I usually have 10-20% battery left at night when I plug it in.
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The camera is really bad in my opinion. Every photo I take seems to be grainy or just not all that clear. There are much better options out there. The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now. there are also good deals on the note 4 and other devices that are a year old. The brightness is a bit low, but you'll get use to it. It was a great phone for the money when it launched, but there are better options now. It is a good phone, but not great anymore.
I've always been able to use it the whole day. I usually have 10-20% battery left at night when I plug it in.
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Well I wanted to go for the zenfone because of the great specs and such but I'm open to any other 5"-5"5' phones just as long as its around 300€ or so. If anyone else has any other suggestions on what other phone I could buy I'd gladly appreciate it
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For the money its a great phone. I love mine! You get what you pay for.
I agree with Bushcrafter. Mine does everything I want, and at less than half the price of comparable handsets.
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Bushcrafter said:
For the money its a great phone. I love mine! You get what you pay for.
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I agree with Bushcrafter. Mine does everything I want, and at less than half the price of comparable handsets.
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what are ye guys experiences with the display and camera ?
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I am more than satisfied with the performance of mine. I watch a lot of videos on mine and I can't complain. It is very clear and the screen brightness is not as bad as I'd heard. Comparable to my M7. The camera takes decent shots in bright and low light. I have nothing but good thingscto say about the performance of this phone.
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I prefer the ZF2 over my Nexus 5. The reports regarding the screen brightness are, while true, exaggerated imho. The camera is worse than the Nexus 5's but I don't care about the camera anyway.
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The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now.
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I noticed OP posted the price in Euros, I assume he's European, so the median price of a Nexus 6 device in Europe right now is more than 450 to 500 euros at some cases, whereas the ZF2 can be found at 50 or 100 euro cheaper than the Nexus6
For the specs it has, I'd say it's a good offer
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I noticed OP posted the price in Euros, I assume he's European, so the median price of a Nexus 6 device in Europe right now is more than 450 to 500 euros at some cases, whereas the ZF2 can be found at 50 or 100 euro cheaper than the Nexus6
For the specs it has, I'd say it's a good offer
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Yeah the Nexus 6 is a bit pricey here. Yeah I'll go for the ZF2, great reviews here and loads of exaggeration of reviews elsewhere.
Caebron said:
I prefer the ZF2 over my Nexus 5. The reports regarding the screen brightness are, while true, exaggerated imho. The camera is worse than the Nexus 5's but I don't care about the camera anyway.
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Ok that's good to know that the screen brightness isn't that bad
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I am more than satisfied with the performance of mine. I watch a lot of videos on mine and I can't complain. It is very clear and the screen brightness is not as bad as I'd heard. Comparable to my M7. The camera takes decent shots in bright and low light. I have nothing but good thingscto say about the performance of this phone.
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Ok great thanks, I hope that the camera will be better than my current moto g (1st Gen) [emoji14]
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bublz654 said:
Yeah the Nexus 6 is a bit pricey here. Yeah I'll go for the ZF2, gear reviews here and loads of exaggeration of reviews elsewhere.
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true, I've also ordered it and wait it to be delivered since a local eshop had it on a special offer at 339€. Of course, If I could find both Nexus 6 and the ZF2 at the same money, I'd get the first mainly because you can mod it easily and without any repercussions (unlocked bootloader doesn't void the warranty, etc)
But then again, going from my current phone of 512 mb ram and 400 mb internal memory to a rocket like ZF2 doesn't leave me much room for complaints
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true, I've also ordered it and wait it to be delivered since a local eshop had it on a special offer at 339€. Of course, If I could find both Nexus 6 and the ZF2 at the same money, I'd get the first mainly because you can mod it easily and without any repercussions (unlocked bootloader doesn't void the warranty, etc)
But then again, going from my current phone of 512 mb ram and 400 mb internal memory to a rocket like ZF2 doesn't leave me much room for complaints
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although the nexus has a better stock experience it has a bit lower specs so I might as well get the ZF2 for the bit lower price
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bublz654 said:
although the nexus has a better stock experience it has a bit lower specs so I might as well get the ZF2 for the bit lower price
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got mine 2 hours ago, holy **** it's fast. Rooting was also easy and quick. Seems like it's very good actually
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got mine 2 hours ago, holy **** it's fast. Rooting was also easy and quick. Seems like it's very good actually
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that's great to hear good luck with your phone.
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Hello there,
I am considering of buying a ZF2 and I have looked around at probably 15 reviews on this phone [emoji14] I don't care about design and such but the guides were saying that the brightness and the camera are a bit bad.
Is the brightness really bad on the ZF2 ? And how does the camera do ?
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Im a new owner and I regret getting this phone. Battery life is terrible, camera is mediocre, many weird bugs, screen brightness is a joke, reminds me of my 2011 HTC. Oh and still no Android 5.1 and its probably never coming to this phone apparently and probably same story for Android marshmallow.
Avoid this phone at all cost. You can get a better phone for less IMO. Mine is going on Craig's list if the next big patch doesn't fix the battery life.
Relayers said:
Im a new owner and I regret getting this phone. Battery life is terrible, camera is mediocre, many weird bugs, screen brightness is a joke, reminds me of my 2011 HTC. Oh and still no Android 5.1 and its probably never coming to this phone apparently and probably same story for Android marshmallow.
Avoid this phone at all cost. You can get a better phone for less IMO. Mine is going on Craig's list if the next big patch doesn't fix the battery life.
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I don't care about android version [emoji14] can easily root it anyway and flash ROM. ROMS can easily fix battery life issue
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I don't care about android version [emoji14] can easily root it anyway and flash ROM. ROMS can easily fix battery life issue
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nope, none of the ROM currently available can give this phone a good battery life.
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nope, none of the ROM currently available can give this phone a good battery life.
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It has better battery life than lg g4 and galaxy s6(had both), so what's your point? If you personally have a bad experience with your unit, that doesn't make this a phone to "avoid at all cost".
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