RAM management in CM/AOSP - Xiaomi Redmi 1S

I cant seem to figure out why ram management is so bad in CM and any AOSP rom......i can understand that for MiUi but not here.
I cant multitask.....using just chrome and whatsapp ......they get kicked out of memory way too often......chrome pages reload from scratch whenever i go to them.....very little scope for multitasking ...... Also the home launcher gets unloaded .
I previously used Xperia L on CM 11 with 1 GB Ram but it multitasked like champ .....also my friend's Moto G2 .......I thinkbmaybe cuz we are using JB kernel for kitkat . I hope it gets fixed after the sources are out .... For now ,the user experience is too bad .
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Really? Would you mind checking out this screenshot of mine?

sherry_94 said:
I cant seem to figure out why ram management is so bad in CM and any AOSP rom......i can understand that for MiUi but not here.
I cant multitask.....using just chrome and whatsapp ......they get kicked out of memory way too often......chrome pages reload from scratch whenever i go to them.....very little scope for multitasking ...... Also the home launcher gets unloaded .
I previously used Xperia L on CM 11 with 1 GB Ram but it multitasked like champ .....also my friend's Moto G2 .......I thinkbmaybe cuz we are using JB kernel for kitkat . I hope it gets fixed after the sources are out .... For now ,the user experience is too bad .
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check out my posts n it may help you in multi-tasking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56660619&postcount=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56660672&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56682770&postcount=7
first try only ultimate experience mod this will be enough but if you want go for PurePerformances™X_CM.1.4 mod

zTweaked said:
Really? Would you mind checking out this screenshot of mine?
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O M G ....wat did u do ?? [emoji15]
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RajGopi said:
check out my posts n it may help you in multi-tasking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56660619&postcount=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56660672&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56682770&postcount=7
first try only ultimate experience mod this will be enough but if you want go for PurePerformances™X_CM.1.4 mod
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zTweaked said:
Really? Would you mind checking out this screenshot of mine?
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These screenshots are crazy .....i ve checjed the links and i ll try them ASAP
I ve a qyick ques , has this much free ram affected the performance ?? I looks like ur phone has no cached apps
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sherry_94 said:
These screenshots are crazy .....i ve checjed the links and i ll try them ASAP
I ve a qyick ques , has this much free ram affected the performance ?? I looks like ur phone has no cached apps
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Mine does have cached apps. I don't think RajGopi's phone has cached apps as his used ram is only 98mb in one of the screenshots. Even phones with 256mb ram have more than 98mb used ram at boot, i guess!
I was using carbon rom when i took this screenshot, with no added tweaks. Now i'm on pac. Clearing all the recent apps gives like 450+ mb free ram. (Again, no tweaks)

zTweaked said:
Mine does have cached apps. I don't think RajGopi's phone has cached apps as his used ram is only 98mb in one of the screenshots. Even phones with 256mb ram have more than 98mb used ram at boot, i guess!
I was using carbon rom when i took this screenshot, with no added tweaks. Now i'm on pac. Clearing all the recent apps gives like 450+ mb free ram. (Again, no tweaks)
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well you are right
those screenshots were taken after flashing new rom so there were no cached apps
here are latest screenshots(same rom) with many apps installed now n all are cached
i even hibernate most of the system apps with greenify
rename the attached screenshots to .png(because of size restriction i renamed them as .apk)

never believe ram bar at the recent apps.. check the ram at settings/apps/running

epulrevo said:
never believe ram bar at the recent apps.. check the ram at settings/apps/running
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It is actualy true....most of the time it shows the mem in use by apps, excluding the cached apps
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I ve started using swap in cache and data partition with ulmatemod (or something) .....ram management has drastically improved. Still the device performance leaves a lot to be desired
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sherry_94 said:
I ve started using swap in cache and data partition with ulmatemod (or something) .....ram management has drastically improved. Still the device performance leaves a lot to be desired
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Swap in cache eventually will destroy your cache partition because that is on internal SDCard

pgreed said:
Swap in cache eventually will destroy your cache partition because that is on internal SDCard
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I agree .....but will it die in a year ??? Cuz i m not gonna keep this phone much longer
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[Q] Get bigger RAM ?

Is there anyway to make my one v Free RAM space gets bigger ? i always get lags whenever i play temple run after done some activities on my phone. I always need to delete all task with Task Manager so i wont get any lags when playing.
It says that it has 512mb, but in most of use i only have less than 100mb. So isnt it possible to make it bigger ?
handisetyadi said:
Is there anyway to make my one v Free RAM space gets bigger ? i always get lags whenever i play temple run after done some activities on my phone. I always need to delete all task with Task Manager so i wont get any lags when playing.
It says that it has 512mb, but in most of use i only have less than 100mb. So isnt it possible to make it bigger ?
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Anything is possible after you've rooted your phone and installed custom rom!
If you don't have these, you will probably stress yourself with the amount of free ram. Remember that SENSE is using HUGE ram. Once you've installed a custom rom without sense(Just android 4) you can enjoy playing with your phone because then it will have something like 150mb free
We don't have stock Android 4 yet mate..
arkatis said:
We don't have stock Android 4 yet mate..
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I was talking "in future" !
so that means no for my question at the moment ?
handisetyadi said:
so that means no for my question at the moment ?
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Well, sort of...
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nahh, the only reason i bought htc device is bcs of htc sense
im just gonna wait until someone release a rom with a better RAM management than what htc does
you can try virtual RAM or compcache.

[Ask]Hiw i can Optimize my RAM

Hi i want to ask
How to optimize my phone RAM i use v6 supercharger but my ram is still 163mb
I use 4 messenger Catfizz,Line,yahoo,facebook
Thanks before:beer::beer:
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Use adrenaline engine
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Technically, it's hard to tell the difference performance-wise. Android does it's own memory management, but also it won't hurt anyone if you try RAM tweaks and see the result for yourself.
Chamiakas said:
Technically, it's hard to tell the difference performance-wise. Android does it's own memory management, but also it won't hurt anyone if you try RAM tweaks and see the result for yourself.
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remove facebook, yahoo, and all other apps that runs on the background,
even if you have v6, the apps still runs in the memory
no matter what ram tweak you do if you have background hog memory apps and due to the limitation of our device you shall fail
deathnotice01 said:
remove facebook, yahoo, and all other apps that runs on the background,
even if you have v6, the apps still runs in the memory
no matter what ram tweak you do if you have background hog memory apps and due to the limitation of our device you shall fail
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I did not quite get that you said there, but I didin't encounter a single problem due to low RAM. Of course it can be because I don't usually run a lot of apps at once.
Thx but i very loves facebook app
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if you are much conscious about ram then never use and go product they are the hogger beast
check every app's ram consumption then you their alternative with less ram consumption
if you love ics keyboard, then there are 2, one uses about 10 mb and other uses about 20 mb
Chamiakas said:
I did not quite get that you said there, but I didin't encounter a single problem due to low RAM. Of course it can be because I don't usually run a lot of apps at once.
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even if you don't run the app, they actually run on the background doing things you don't know, consuming your battery and your ram
Death notice can u make a theme for M.U.R v2 with blacksense?thanks
:beer::beer::beer::beer:
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deathnotice01 said:
even if you don't run the app, they actually run on the background doing things you don't know, consuming your battery and your ram
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Well, thats true, but the RAM is meant to be cached (fully used) for quickly launching the desired application.
Best way to optimize RAM for starters is to monitor your background, cached and running processes well. First, freeze stock background running bloatware using TB. Mainly DRM content (some say it messes with ringtones and stuff but I never experienced that), wsynclmps, syncmIDs, maps (unfreeze it only when needede), software update(this really doesnt help and is waste of RAM+space), pico TTS , TTS service(these two are for voice to text conversion and are literally not much used), samsung account(is waste compared to play store), two email ones (use gmail app these dont help much), social hub , samsung push service.Choose adrenaline engine if you want multi tasking and v6 if you want more free ram.You can mix both of them but its risky and needs some scripting skills to remove the conflicts they make and highly NOT recommended.
Chamiakas said:
Well, thats true, but the RAM is meant to be cached (fully used) for quickly launching the desired application.
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completely agree with this one. less ram is not alway a good news in android system since it has unique RAM management. for quick acces and less RAM r/w some of app is stored in RAM's cache. SGY's default ram setting is already good enough for multitasking and gaming option. if you want a better performance in your device you don't need lesser RAM. instead of it you need a better memory and app management.
Thnks i use lessly ram now 121
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[Q] Low Ram

Is this normal?. my ram is really low and im only running what you can see?
Any advice please:fingers-crossed:
I wouldn't say that's too low. So you can sit back and relax
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oh rite thanks!
Yes show me ur cached process es
Mine is alot more like 144 mb free
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Sorry for the late reply. I was root/s-off a friends desire for him
here it is.
EDIT:::: I have 0 ram free now!
striped121 said:
Sorry for the late reply. I was root/s-off a friends desire for him
here it is.
EDIT:::: I have 0 ram free now!
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Reboot, delete some useless apps, close out of your programs more often.. etc
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that's too less mate.. i never have less than 70mb ram
even though i use SwiftKey and whats app
what i use is titanium tweaker app from the market
go to voltage set it to - 150 (for battery)
note set to - 150 only if you're oc to 1024
if higher don't do.. The phone won't respond..
then go to advance/turbocharger lmk
select megaram2
done see the difference
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dude unless u play games mine always shows 144 mb, remove **** that u dont use
download this from the market
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autorun.pro&hl=en
the paid one is awesome,but there is a free one also!, diavle the startup of junk bloatware and reboot!
4 bucks for a 87KB app? xD
Lowest ram I had was 51MB, and I use Sense 4.1. I would say using task killers help if your one of them people who want to see your ram high. If your device feels sluggish after use, use a task killer, or reboot.
I'm sure CM has that low mem problem though ither way. I saw someone posting bugs about it.
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Curiousn00b said:
4 bucks for a 87KB app? xD
Lowest ram I had was 51MB, and I use Sense 4.1. I would say using task killers help if your one of them people who want to see your ram high. If your device feels sluggish after use, use a task killer, or reboot.
I'm sure CM has that low mem problem though ither way. I saw someone posting bugs about it.
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use the free version then!
Suppose ill just ignore it then as my phone is smooth and fast anyhow. just curiious to why really. it's at about 70 now on average.
striped121 said:
Suppose ill just ignore it then as my phone is smooth and fast anyhow. just curiious to why really. it's at about 70 now on average.
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i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
When an Android app is no longer in use, the system will automatically suspend it in memory - while the app is still technically "open," suspended apps consume no resources (e.g. battery power or processing power) and sit idly in the background until needed again. This has the dual benefit of increasing the general responsiveness of Android devices, since apps don't need to be closed and reopened from scratch each time, but also ensuring background apps don't waste power needlessly
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Android manages the apps stored in memory automatically: when memory is low, the system will begin killing apps and processes that have been inactive for a while, in reverse order since they were last used (i.e. oldest first). This process is designed to be invisible to the user, such that users do not need to manage memory or the killing of apps themselves.[65] However, confusion over Android memory management has resulted in third-party task killers becoming popular on the Google Play store; these third-party task killers are generally regarded as doing more harm than good.
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source: Wikipedia
1ceb0x said:
i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
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source: Wikipedia
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Thanks for giving everyone who isn't aware some knowledge :highfive:Getting tired of these kinds of topics.
"More doesn't always mean better"
1ceb0x said:
i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
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source: Wikipedia
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but 1ce keeping them in the memory drains battery also right? so i prefer just remove some bloatware auto start aps
rockstar_26 said:
Thanks for giving everyone who isn't aware some knowledge :highfive:Getting tired of these kinds of topics.
"More doesn't always mean better"
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if your tired of these kind of topics then simply dont read them.
I Thank you for the info and understand perfectly now as i've never used linux prior to android annd never wanted to.
cybervibin said:
but 1ce keeping them in the memory drains battery also right? so i prefer just remove some bloatware auto start aps
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wrong. they remain in memory but they will not consume anything. that's what cache memory means.
1ceb0x said:
wrong. they remain in memory but they will not consume anything. that's what cache memory means.
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I am backig up everything Ice wrote above...
Also if you need auto start manager(free) go check this two https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImltb2JsaWZlLnRvb2xib3guZnVsbCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94Il0.
Much more then just auto start managers..enjoy

Multitasking on stock Xperia android

I don't know if it's just me or anythinh else. Did y'all notice Xperia stock android can't do multitasking very well? When I was on AOSP stock android 4.2.2 when I leave an app or switch to another one the previous app freezes/purges or something like that(I don't know the correct term) and when I come back to it, it stays where I left from. Meanwhile when I use stock Xperia android, when I leave an app open and when I return to it, it restarts, the app gets kicked out of the memory.
Because Aosp based Roms have more Ram free than stock ones, If there isn't enough free Ram when you're opening a new app, some apps running in background must be stopped to make room for newly opened app. The fact of the matter is lacking of Ram free.
Cheers
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lilude56214 said:
Because Aosp based Roms have more Ram free than stock ones, If there isn't enough free Ram when you're opening a new app, some apps running in background must be stopped to make room for newly opened app. The fact of the matter is lacking of Ram free.
Cheers
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So tweaking OOM could help?
lewis021 said:
So tweaking OOM could help?
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How do you tweak OOM ? As i've never heard that word before. Btw, Removing bloatware, unnecessary system apps and exploiting "greenify" app to hibernate unused apps running automatically in background (even you do not need it) have been the best solution so far, this could improve a little bit lack of Ram free issue because we're aware of what's appropriating Ram then manage it better.
lilude56214 said:
How do you tweak OOM ? As i've never heard that word before. Btw, Removing bloatware, unnecessary system apps and exploiting "greenify" app to hibernate unused apps running automatically in background (even you do not need it) have been the best solution so far, this could improve a little bit lack of Ram free issue because we're aware of what's appropriating Ram then manage it better.
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Sorry for the late reply. I was on school lately. OOM means "Out Of Memory" in kernel tuner.
if you want serious multitasking flash AOSPA 3+ and play around with HALO..
boyheadkick said:
if you want serious multitasking flash AOSPA 3+ and play around with HALO..
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Since when S has AOSPA 3.+?
Felimenta97 said:
Since when S has AOSPA 3.+?
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whoops sorry i meant PAC rom
boyheadkick said:
whoops sorry i meant PAC rom
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I would but I'm still waiting for the 3.4 kernel. It's very unstable.

[Q] need helping with RAM on Xperia S

I am currently on Xperia Nexus v3 and Trinity Kernel, and this gives me about 300MB free ram from the beginning. And I have used Greenify to help my low ram situation. However, Becuase I am running a lot of services in the background that I need, 300MB of ram is not enough for me and my phone lags like hell and always causing home launcher redraws etc.
So anyone can tell me how I can solve the problem? I heard AOSP ROMs gives more RAM, but then I won't be have cybershot mod along with AOSP, and camera is a big thing for me too.
Thanks guys for helping!!
In Linux, free RAM = wasted RAM
For "more RAM" it should mean "more usable RAM"
If Greenify really can't help you (it helps me a lot!), maybe you should uninstall some apps.
Ur lag isn't ram problem
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The only solution is to flash a custom rom or just wipe everything
try supercharger script... it help me a lot in reducing lag....
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lock launcher in memory
MrGezz said:
try supercharger script... it help me a lot in reducing lag....
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Where can you find this supercharger script?
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darksherko said:
Where can you find this supercharger script?
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lwhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12058585
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Thanks for the replies
Once I launch something like Brower, it closes my archives like LMT, call recorder etc, so free ram is not wasted ram in my case
And even I lock the launcher or even put in system, it stills redraw.
And I am already using custom Rom and kernels, and I believed it's already supercharged
xdax1 said:
And even I lock the launcher or even put in system, it stills redraw.
And I am already using custom Rom and kernels, and I believed it's already supercharged
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1. Then you did something wrong, no redraws for me
2. They are not
xdax1 said:
I heard AOSP ROMs gives more RAM, but then I won't be have cybershot mod along with AOSP, and camera is a big thing for me too.!
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exactly the same dilemma i had before i tried out PAC..you can always install a third party camera app..for me though, the stock AOSP camera is good enough
and regarding the RAM issue, i used PurePerformanceX..my lowest ram is at 80-90mb..no redraws or lags
boyheadkick said:
exactly the same dilemma i had before i tried out PAC..you can always install a third party camera app..for me though, the stock AOSP camera is good enough
and regarding the RAM issue, i used PurePerformanceX..my lowest ram is at 80-90mb..no redraws or lags
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I guess eventually I will have to go with PAC, just that I wish there is other solutions so I can keep my cybershot.
xdax1 said:
I guess eventually I will have to go with PAC, just that I wish there is other solutions so I can keep my cybershot.
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why not try greenify?and i think PurePerformanceX can also be used with stock rom
boyheadkick said:
why not try greenify?and i think PurePerformanceX can also be used with stock
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Greenify is good.
xdax1 said:
I am currently on Xperia Nexus v3 and Trinity Kernel, and this gives me about 300MB free ram from the beginning. And I have used Greenify to help my low ram situation. However, Becuase I am running a lot of services in the background that I need, 300MB of ram is not enough for me and my phone lags like hell and always causing home launcher redraws etc.
So anyone can tell me how I can solve the problem? I heard AOSP ROMs gives more RAM, but then I won't be have cybershot mod along with AOSP, and camera is a big thing for me too.
Thanks guys for helping!!
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There are a lot of ways the combat this issue. You can try simple fixes i.e uninstalling apps or closing background processes or the slightly more advanced stuff like the v6 supercharger script, u can also go to development options and limit background processes or choose the option to close app/process as soon as user leaves (forgot the actual title, but yeah u get the idea!)
thenoobkid said:
There are a lot of ways the combat this issue. You can try simple fixes i.e uninstalling apps or closing background processes or the slightly more advanced stuff like the v6 supercharger script, u can also go to development options and limit background processes or choose the option to close app/process as soon as user leaves (forgot the actual title, but yeah u get the idea!)
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v6 supercharger script only works in ICS, at least that's what is says on the page of the one who made it, if that script works in JB the one who made it should update his page from time to time.

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