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I thought SGX540 that's superior than iphone4 would run new games without any lags but for new games such as 9mm and let's golf 3 i've face many stutter on those games. I'd like to ask others that you have problem like me or not ? or maybe next time i'd go back to ios or waiting ice cream sandwich. Those games are smooth in iphone4 but not in galaxy s that has superior GPU.
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
im currently on JVT.firmware
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
Yeah, sgx540 is better than the 535 use in iphone 4, but it's all about drivers and optimisations. And we can't deny that Apple is doing a wonderfull job with iOS.
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
Simplicitiy is very good!
alwo1303 said:
Simplicitiy is very good!
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how many ram does system take with that rom?
For games playing, 2.2.1(JSD) is a Must!
titooo7 said:
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
_breez_ said:
indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
lpalvaro said:
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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No, custom roms, even so called simple and bare ones, use more ram than stock roms. I recommend ZSJPK 2.2.1, which has about 180mb of ram on boot, and an average of 120-140mb or ram after two days' usage.
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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Then you do it without the script. What's the problem here? I have over 2,000 games on my phone. And no, that wasn't a typo. None of them lag.
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
bigmem kernel may help? its what i use
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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I've rolled back to froyo and now without apps in the background i0ve about 140mb of ram used, and now 9mm goes smooth. I'm not moving from froyo any more.
Also, now the battery lasts in 6 hours of screen usage, and with jvt only 4 hours
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
leroys said:
Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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Are they though? When I help someone out, I tell them correct information. If I don't know the correct information, I don't tell them anything. Why? Because incorrect information is worse than not helping at all. Few people in this thread have given remotely acceptable advice. No one needs to do a 3-step process, including rebooting your phone, just to play games; likewise, no one needs to downgrade to Froyo in order to game either.
I have Let's Golf! 3D installed currently, but I don't have the most recent revision of 9MM—although I have played it in the past. I have my phone's CPU and GPU overclocked, like I'm sure many of us do here, and I can play both without noticeable lag. I didn't have to reboot my phone to play them. I didn't have to uninstall apps to play them. I didn't have to flash an entirely new ROM to play them. And I certainly didn't need to stand on one leg with the phone above my head to play them.
Bad advice is just bad.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
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I posted what helped reducing lag in 9mm on my phone.
if you don't need the help i posted, that's too ****ing bad. the fact this topic was started shows people are facing the same problem with lack of usable ram memory for 9mm.
looks like you have some sort of magic phone with unlimited amounts of ram memory that never lags
the reason why i told him to reboot his phone is because ram usage is much less in most cases, right after booting up.
and btw, next time do some more effort instead of posting one line if my information is not correct
As in topic. Im looking for any enhancements form my xperia play such as increasing size of ram, applications memory or sth like that. I didnt put it in offtopic cos i dont think that it is offtopic. Please move my topic if u think different.
Two things I would definately recommend.
1: V6 SuperCharger
2: Xperia PLAY Tweaks from this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456777
Between those two and some build.prop tweaks my phone just screams... And dont forget ROOT..... move all your apps to SD via Titanium Backup
You cannot make ure Ram or anything bigger by replace hardware just optimise with software
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Ram Is Fixed To a Certain Size eg plays is 512mb I believe,
Jgregory Is right V6 and others Make Your Phone mental
jgregoryj1 said:
Two things I would definately recommend.
1: V6 SuperCharger
2: Xperia PLAY Tweaks from this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456777
Between those two and some build.prop tweaks my phone just screams... And dont forget ROOT..... move all your apps to SD via Titanium Backup
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do I need an unlocked bootloader for the V6 supercharger? and what does that tweak do? No one in that thread knows :S
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do I need an unlocked bootloader for the V6 supercharger? and what does that tweak do? No one in that thread knows :S
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No you do not need a unlocked BL. Just need root and busybox and script manager. But honestly just get your bootloader unlocked. It's worth the 24$.
Potato13 said:
No you do not need a unlocked BL. Just need root and busybox and script manager. But honestly just get your bootloader unlocked. It's worth the 24$.
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What's script manager?
How does it work though? Do they add something to the hardware or is it software based? :S If it's software why can't I do it for free?
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do I need an unlocked bootloader for the V6 supercharger? and what does that tweak do? No one in that thread knows :S
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Its much easier to use Ram manager app. I found it seams to do more for our play's we have. Then Supercharger V6 and a lot easier to set up when you want different setting's. We just wondered why the supercharger dev never made his script into an app instead of using script manager. This is really what ram manager did. All you need is root.
hope this helps as is another option.
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What's script manager?
How does it work though? Do they add something to the hardware or is it software based? :S If it's software why can't I do it for free?
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Script manager runs written coded scripts that change things written in your device's code.
Supercharger is software based. All it add's is some build.prop tweek's really and tells you device to kill running background apps like a hardcore version of Advanced Task Killer
I already have ram manager pro,running the script for V6 supercharger now.
What scrolling speed should I select as mentioned in the V6 Thread?
Thanks
ShahinTehShiz said:
What scrolling speed should I select as mentioned in the V6 Thread?
Thanks
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Really? The scrolling speed is what speed the text is going move in Script Manager. If you're having problems that early on with the options, good luck getting the rest of it set up.
I would seriously recomend doomlord's doomkernel. It supports over clocking. I'm loving it at 2Ghz. I ran v6 but in all honesty I didn't notice a difference what so ever. I'm actually doubting wether it does anything at all.
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I would seriously recomend doomlord's doomkernel. It supports over clocking. I'm loving it at 2Ghz. I ran v6 but in all honesty I didn't notice a difference what so ever. I'm actually doubting wether it does anything at all.
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I have doomlord kernel and i can overclock it 2 2GHz too but it drains battery so much that it is pointless to do it.
Otherwise - thanks every1 for help especially jgregoryj1 and poo-tang
super charger 100% does work look at the ram games such as six guns seem to work way better with little to no lag, before i used super charger this game was unplayable
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I would seriously recomend doomlord's doomkernel. It supports over clocking. I'm loving it at 2Ghz. I ran v6 but in all honesty I didn't notice a difference what so ever. I'm actually doubting wether it does anything at all.
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I used v6 with the diehard launcher and super UL for 512 mb of ram for my phone and that made my phone noticeably faster
V6 Supercharger on Stock SE ROM ?
Hi guys,
I noticed some of you in this thread are having excellent results with V6 Supercharger script.
I tried to install this script on my XPeria Play R800i under Stock SE ROM 2.3.4 without success.
Frozen screen on reboot and recovery through ClockWorkMod to get it up again.
Do you use the V6 Supercharger on stock ROM or on a custom ROM ?
Thanks for your answers,
Hi there,
As nobody answered my call so far, I come back to give feedback on my own experience.
I tried again to install the V6Supercharger Script and manage to get through this time.
The first time, I guess I simply did not wait enough time.
In fact, I had to wait like almost 10 minutes on the Sony-Ericson XPeria logo (after the boot animation) before my phone came back to life.
It can be quite stressful so just be prepared !
After that, I went through the pin code entry screen and found out some of my widgets did not properly load and some applications were not showing up.
Therefore, I rebooted and everything went fine on the second time. All the apps showed up properly (only mixed up in the scrolling app section).
Launching the script again, it confirmed my phone was 100% supercharged with the following settings (script previously set as root, run at boot):
- DieHard launcher
- Rock&Roll Kernel
- Miscellaneous tweaks and 3G enhancement installed
- 512HP setting with V6 CustOOMizer option
- Minfrees set at 8, 12, 40, 47, 55 and 62MB
with 367MB of Ram (is this correct for the XPlay ?).
This was applied on the Sony Ericsson stock ROM 2.3.4 and the stock Kernel.
The first impression was that the scrolling between various home displays was faster.
I started Dead Trigger, running correctly (maybe just a bit slower, not sure) and when I exited the game, I had almost no Redraw time to wait.
Before V6 Supercharger, I used to wait around 5 seconds before all the icons were there again and I could scroll.
This time, the icons were right there and the scrolling hesitated for maybe 1 second but got super smooth again right after that.
Ok, this is to share my experience with you, guys.
No idea if anyone has experience on the XPlay ? Maybe using other settings ?
As there is a clear note that this script is not intended for heavy gamers, it tends to indicate it should not be really used on the XPlay, mainly used by heavy gamers.
What is your opinion on that ?
Cheers,
Hello to everyone, i have installed a custom rom for my Xperia Play with Locked Bootloader, the Custom Rom is NXT 1.3 and its performance in games was excellent newly installed, but when i started to install my apps or restore my apps the performance felt. So i thought that was ocurred cause was filling up the internal memory, so I put most of the applications on the SD card and some go to the ROM, but the performance doesn't improve as well, i read and a i have try different things like install Ram Manager Pro to free more RAM in games, to Use Task killer for Tasks in Ejecution and i dont see an considerable change in its performance. So Can i do for play more smooth?
The another thing is the NXT 1.3 have Busybox and support for scripts Init.d but i try to use an option for swap but maybe my stock kernel dont support it and another option for max size aplication's data in Ram Manager Pro ask me for busybox as if i didnt installed it, and i don't know why.
Thank yo
PD: Sorry for my poor English cause my native language is Spanish. XD
you need to overclock your rom.
here is the link for download No-frills CPU Control (i use this one): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwiaXQuc2luZW8uYW5kcm9pZC5ub0ZyaWxsc0NQVSJd
After download that overclock it to: Max - 1,709 Ghz | Min - 249 Mhz | Governor - smartassV2 | I/Oscheduler - sio
Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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olokos said:
Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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i use doomlord kernel.
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But if i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel i cant to overclock cause i cant change kernel. is there another option for improve the game experience with the NXT 1.3 Rom or another???
I know this might not help but could you tell me how good heavy 3d gaming was when you first installed the ROM. Did you play games like GTA:VC/GTA 3/Modern Combat 3/4 / Batman Dark Knight Rises etc without NO LAG or with minimal lag? Im on dixperia 2 and out of the 3 ROMs ive been on, its provided me with the good performance although it does slightly lag when doing heavy 3d gaming...
Nxt Light 1.3
I was experiencing the same issue. I am using the light version of the custom ROM, and it was blazing fast upon installation. Now that all of my games are installed, it is slightly slower than it was before, not very noticable though. If it helps, before playing a game, I use Es Task Manager to clear up about 200mb of memory so more is available for the games. My bootloader is locked as well. I wish there was a stable ICS on the Xperia Play. The ICS user interface, in my opinion, is much smoother than gingerbread.
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
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Sdojoin
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Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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My phone using NXT 1.3 has 204-215Mb free almost the times.
lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.
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Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
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Sdojoin
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Thank you man, but i have another question if i have Ram Manager Pro running for "Harder Gamming" it is going a trouble with the NXT rom? cause that to free RAM too but i have lag too. The Task killer i used only for free ram before i play, or maybe can you tell me how can i do for boost my gamming experience on NXT rom in my XP with locked bootloader. Thank you people for your support!
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Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.
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Thank you, can you tell me what apps can i use for improve the gamming experience in XP or maybe boost the XP with NXT rom cause i have almost 20 apps and i have 100 mb free on Internal Memory, the Rom Memory with 35 Mb free, but the RAM fill up fast and i only use the defalult launcher of NXT Rom with Static Theme and a few widgets like Timescape, Photos/Videos, Searchbox and Music. But i feel the rom less smooth than newlsy installed, Thank you for answering!!!
Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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Another question my friend what app can i used for cache/dalvik cache (For no reboot all time XD) and i can't use swapping on Stock Kernel? cause i cant in my XP with NXT ROM with locked bootloader. Thank you!!!
U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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Sdojoin
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U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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Sdojoin
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I've tried to install a swapper but when i verify if it is running on memory use the swap space are in 0 like if i didnt install the swapper or if it isn't running, what can i do? The another question is this:
I found a tweaks collection and i want to try that but i dont know if that could generate conflict with the tweaks of the NXT ROM have with it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456777
Somebody said games are better installed in internal memory than SD Card, that is right? by the way what configuration or tweaks or apps you used for games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 or Street Fighter IV? Thank you for answering!!!!
Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.
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Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.
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Then your stuck with your limited "options."
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Then your stuck with your limited "options."
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So nothing can i do? :S. And if i put apps in Rom Memory (Rom's Space) will generate lag or no? Cause i thought in the posibility to move the apps in SD Car and Rom Space for more space on internal memory....
I don't know if it's just me or anythinh else. Did y'all notice Xperia stock android can't do multitasking very well? When I was on AOSP stock android 4.2.2 when I leave an app or switch to another one the previous app freezes/purges or something like that(I don't know the correct term) and when I come back to it, it stays where I left from. Meanwhile when I use stock Xperia android, when I leave an app open and when I return to it, it restarts, the app gets kicked out of the memory.
Because Aosp based Roms have more Ram free than stock ones, If there isn't enough free Ram when you're opening a new app, some apps running in background must be stopped to make room for newly opened app. The fact of the matter is lacking of Ram free.
Cheers
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Because Aosp based Roms have more Ram free than stock ones, If there isn't enough free Ram when you're opening a new app, some apps running in background must be stopped to make room for newly opened app. The fact of the matter is lacking of Ram free.
Cheers
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So tweaking OOM could help?
lewis021 said:
So tweaking OOM could help?
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How do you tweak OOM ? As i've never heard that word before. Btw, Removing bloatware, unnecessary system apps and exploiting "greenify" app to hibernate unused apps running automatically in background (even you do not need it) have been the best solution so far, this could improve a little bit lack of Ram free issue because we're aware of what's appropriating Ram then manage it better.
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How do you tweak OOM ? As i've never heard that word before. Btw, Removing bloatware, unnecessary system apps and exploiting "greenify" app to hibernate unused apps running automatically in background (even you do not need it) have been the best solution so far, this could improve a little bit lack of Ram free issue because we're aware of what's appropriating Ram then manage it better.
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Sorry for the late reply. I was on school lately. OOM means "Out Of Memory" in kernel tuner.
if you want serious multitasking flash AOSPA 3+ and play around with HALO..
boyheadkick said:
if you want serious multitasking flash AOSPA 3+ and play around with HALO..
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Since when S has AOSPA 3.+?
Felimenta97 said:
Since when S has AOSPA 3.+?
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whoops sorry i meant PAC rom
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whoops sorry i meant PAC rom
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I would but I'm still waiting for the 3.4 kernel. It's very unstable.
Ok i really hate to say it and i know we all experienced this one time or another but, the HTC one v lags A LOT. It has its ups and sometimes is fast, but overall it's starting to really affect the whole experience. I've tried a lot of roms before and the problem is always there, even if i o/c or use scripts and stuff. But im not here to complain, i just want to know how you guys deal with lag, if any.
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Ok i really hate to say it and i know we all experienced this one time or another but, the HTC one v lags A LOT. It has its ups and sometimes is fast, but overall it's starting to really affect the whole experience. I've tried a lot of roms before and the problem is always there, even if i o/c or use scripts and stuff. But im not here to complain, i just want to know how you guys deal with lag, if any.
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Tbh I don't have any lags man. Maybe you just use/install too many apps? I use Greenify app to freeze unused apps and generally that's it. What kind of lags do you experience?
kwitu said:
Tbh I don't have any lags man. Maybe you just use/install too many apps? I use Greenify app to freeze unused apps and generally that's it. What kind of lags do you experience?
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Just general lag every now and then. I also use greenify. But i think its because of all my apps that i have. On my old optimus v i had hundreds of apps and now i have to make sure to keep them low on the one v. Honestly the lag isn't all that bad, im really just curious as to how other people config there phones and what stuff they use.
Dbzavatar said:
Just general lag every now and then. I also use greenify. But i think its because of all my apps that i have. On my old optimus v i had hundreds of apps and now i have to make sure to keep them low on the one v. Honestly the lag isn't all that bad, im really just curious as to how other people config there phones and what stuff they use.
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You will need greenify paid ver(root) to freeze more apps, free ver doesn't freeze all.
Stock rom is a no go, you expected to be lag a lot. Custom rom is much smoother.
TheEndHK said:
You will need greenify paid ver(root) to freeze more apps, free ver doesn't freeze all.
Stock rom is a no go, you expected to be lag a lot. Custom rom is much smoother.
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I disabled greenify and it is still working smoothly. However I don't have loads of apps installed but still, ONE V releases free RAM memory when it's needed, keeping most of tasks running. So for example when you need that extra memory for some action, it will free it by for example closing an app when it decides to do so.
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I disabled greenify and it is still working smoothly. However I don't have loads of apps installed but still, ONE V releases free RAM memory when it's needed, keeping most of tasks running. So for example when you need that extra memory for some action, it will free it by for example closing an app when it decides to do so.
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Greenify free ver is just a kid. It only works for user apps, no system apps. The goal of greenify isn't memory managment, you are talking about somethings else like SuperCharged V6 script(I'm using it too).
One of the main problem on android is there are lots of app like to start itself even you aren't needed or do not run/call them out, they just come out random and waste your cpu/ram/battery a lot, install SystemPanel Lite on Google Play and check it period by yourself. Greenify is to stop these kinds of action completely and paid ver does 90% of its job.
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Dbzavatar said:
Ok i really hate to say it and i know we all experienced this one time or another but, the HTC one v lags A LOT. It has its ups and sometimes is fast, but overall it's starting to really affect the whole experience. I've tried a lot of roms before and the problem is always there, even if i o/c or use scripts and stuff. But im not here to complain, i just want to know how you guys deal with lag, if any.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338146
For the performance and battery friendly, I highly suggest you to try out this new rom Sense 4 Canadian KOODO(with SuperCharge V6), it got both advantages, really smoother than many other custom roms.
However, greenify donate ver is still a must on all roms. I also recommend you to install CrossBreeder 5.21 ver(only old ver is stable) on xda and remember to change the wake to 16 from 256 default, it is a script to fix android UI lag. Since 512MB ram isn't enough, you could give SuperCharge V6 memory management script a try as well.
I have used all stuffs above personally and my One V now is much more useable. Don't overclock much, some phones or kernel don't do good in overclocking.
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Greenify free ver is just a kid. It only works for user apps, no system apps. The goal of greenify isn't memory managment, you are talking about somethings else like SuperCharged V6 script(I'm using it too).
One of the main problem on android is there are lots of app like to start itself even you aren't needed or do not run/call them out, they just come out random and waste your cpu/ram/battery a lot, install SystemPanel Lite on Google Play and check it period by yourself. Greenify is to stop these kinds of action completely and paid ver does 90% of its job.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338146
For the performance and battery friendly, I highly suggest you to try out this new rom Sense 4 Canadian KOODO(with SuperCharge V6), it got both advantages, really smoother than many other custom roms.
However, greenify donate ver is still a must on all roms. I also recommend you to install CrossBreeder 5.21 ver(only old ver is stable) on xda and remember to change the wake to 16 from 256 default, it is a script to fix android UI lag. Since 512MB ram isn't enough, you could give SuperCharge V6 memory management script a try as well.
I have used all stuffs above personally and my One V now is much more useable. Don't overclock much, some phones or kernel don't do good in overclocking.
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I have not used any SuperCharged V6 script, did it come along with my myONEv ROM? If not, is it a big upgrade if I flash it? I think I'll consider buying Greenify full version as you said, this is going to help a lot. However still, I am not experiencing any lags yet(fresh system).
Just curious, what settings do you guys use for the paid greenify? And btw im on rhytmic rom 4.2.2
Dbzavatar said:
Just curious, what settings do you guys use for the paid greenify? And btw im on rhytmic rom 4.2.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
There is no extra settings in donate ver, the only different is allows you to freeze a lot more apps which doesn't support in the free ver but you have to install xposed installer and enable both free/donate in it and reboot.
kwitu said:
I have not used any SuperCharged V6 script, did it come along with my myONEv ROM? If not, is it a big upgrade if I flash it? I think I'll consider buying Greenify full version as you said, this is going to help a lot. However still, I am not experiencing any lags yet(fresh system).
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No, only Sense 4 Canadian KOODO comes with SuperCharge V6 but you can install it on myONEv rom. I'm using it on mySENSE 3.5 rom pretty much identical to yours but with full sense, it works nearly perfect with my rom/kernel fixed most of the memory problem. It doesn't give you God mode but provides a very constant/stable speed environment and hence, increased overall user experiences with the spend of a little bit battery(I think it actually uses me 20% battery more, not sure if my settings go wrong).
So..... if you don't encounter any memory shortage problem during multi-tasking, you might not need it, try it yourself. It ate me 40~50mb free memory but I think it just need some space to do management or caching, or again it might be my settings problem sololy. There are too much of tweaking options in this script. If you want a speed hack, you should try CrossBreeder script(5.21 build with wake16) instead, it does speed up your UI responsive and in my experiences, it saved me around 20% battery as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Supercharge V6 main page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42884332#post42884332
Supercharge V6 lastest build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914159
Ultimate Jar Power Tools
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252297&highlight=supercharger
The installation guide
Actually, the installation procedure isn't that hard but I just don't understand why they can write/explain it in 10 pages length with some crazy English and made me sat in front of monitor for an hour to read all stuffs.
1. I use adb shell(via windows7 command prompt)
2. Type adb shell and then sh /sdcard/supercharger/V6* <-- just put the script in /sdcard/supercharger
3. Pretty much it will go through the process itself in command prompt but just ask you to select some settings(with description so don't worry)
4. At the end, it will ask you to install Ultimate Jar Power Tools manually before continue.
5. The file after download appear to be Ultimatic_Jar_Patcher_Tools_RC6_ALL_DEX_Windows.exe.zip and I rename it to U.exe by myself in command prompt and double click it to run it in windows. Remember to put ALL_ROMS_Ultimate_Jar_Power_Tools-Smali_Patcher_RC9.sh in the same folder/directory.
6. The U.exe will auto-launch a command prompt out in your windows and start to pull the services.jar off your phone and patch it and push it back to your phone and phone will auto-reboot. That's it.
7. Now, you can go back V6 script to continue the setup. Type adb shell and then sh /sdcard/supercharger/V6* again, this time it will skip the installation menu but give you a config menu instead. You can change or enable/disable all settings here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
1. If you have some dated library in phone, you can update them with SuperCharger_Starter_Kit_RC12.zip. Extract it into your sdcard, use Smanager(script manager on play store) to run StartMeUp.sh, remember to click on the root(su icon) before run.
2. If your kernel or rom either one doesn't support init.d(script auto-run during boot). If you have this problem, your supercharge option menu will tell you at 50% level probably, not 100%. You will need to use smanager to click the /data/99supercharger.sh as run on boot and remember to click on the root(su icon) too. Click save and exit and reboot.
This is all the steps in short, I think my guide actually is the best....hehe
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
There is no extra settings in donate ver, the only different is allows you to freeze a lot more apps which doesn't support in the free ver but you have to install xposed installer and enable both free/donate in it and reboot.
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Which do you also suggest to freeze? I freezed only recently opened which I don't want to be running. Not used any from the "show more apps" thing. (talking about paid version now) Btw thank you for your detailed instruction about the scripts, I'll get to it one day when I feel my phone gets laggy.
One more thing, any battery tips? Dunno if it's just my feeling but today it drained a lot more than yesterday with no big difference in usage I guess.
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Which do you also suggest to freeze? I freezed only recently opened which I don't want to be running. Not used any from the "show more apps" thing. (talking about paid version now) Btw thank you for your detailed instruction about the scripts, I'll get to it one day when I feel my phone gets laggy.
One more thing, any battery tips? Dunno if it's just my feeling but today it drained a lot more than yesterday with no big difference in usage I guess.
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Some process/app like to come out in background sliently without tell you or ask your permission. You'll need to use SystemPanel Lite to keep checking periodly to find out which is bad, or you can use "show more apps" to freeze all of them. Just make sure don't freeze chat apps(Hangout, Whatsapp, Skype) and some important process/app like HTC connect to PC(USB Mass Storage mode), Bluetooth service, Setcpu, MyTask(or else no one could ring you maybe), Message(SMS).
Try to wipe the cache and d-cache partition and sometimes One V battery percentage/report isn't that accurate. Or try uninstall greenify if it conflicts with your rom?
Well, crossbreeder and supercharge they are free script and easy installation in mind. In my opinion, no reason not to give them a shoot. No lagging and fast, remember there is a big different. Supercharge I believe it's not useful anymore for new phones got 1GB+ ram but to the 384/512MB/768MB is still helpful. Crossbreeder got reporting good on even all new smartphones with S4 Dual/Quad CPU.
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Some process/app like to come out in background sliently without tell you or ask your permission. You'll need to use SystemPanel Lite to keep checking periodly to find out which is bad, or you can use "show more apps" to freeze all of them. Just make sure don't freeze chat apps(Hangout, Whatsapp, Skype) and some important process/app like HTC connect to PC(USB Mass Storage mode), Bluetooth service, Setcpu, MyTask(or else no one could ring you maybe), Message(SMS).
Try to wipe the cache and d-cache partition and sometimes One V battery percentage/report isn't that accurate. Or try uninstall greenify if it conflicts with your rom?
Well, crossbreeder and supercharge they are free script and easy installation in mind. In my opinion, no reason not to give them a shoot. No lagging and fast, remember there is a big different.
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So basicly flashing Crossbreeder from this post will improve my battery life right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
I also wanted to ask if this really is wroth goin for it? My battery drops by 2-4% by night, but I guess the trick here is that it improves the active battery usage right?
kwitu said:
So basicly flashing Crossbreeder from this post will improve my battery life right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
I also wanted to ask if this really is wroth goin for it? My battery drops by 2-4% by night, but I guess the trick here is that it improves the active battery usage right?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
If you really want to find out which is battery drain part, you will need BetterBatteryStats.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl
And Battery Monitor Widget(check with statistics since unplug)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gyw6uq
CrossBreeder will only helpful for UI. Only 5.21.13 is release ver thats why the developer keeps it, don't try 7.21.13 all recent build are beta, buggy and battery drain. I don't know why the developer didn't keep the 5.21.13 uninstaller but luckily I still have it in my HD so in case you meet any problem, you can uninstall it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42093679&postcount=2
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.root.browserfree&hl=zh_TW
For the 5.21.13, you will need to change the write_wakeup_threshold to 16 and reboot via root browser or root explorer.
TheEndHK said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
If you really want to find out which is battery drain part, you will need BetterBatteryStats.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl
And Battery Monitor Widget(check with statistics since unplug)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gyw6uq
CrossBreeder will only helpful for UI. Only 5.21.13 is release ver thats why the developer keeps it, don't try 7.21.13 all recent build are beta, buggy and battery drain. I don't know why the developer didn't keep the 5.21.13 uninstaller but luckily I still have it in my HD so in case you meet any problem, you can uninstall it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42093679&postcount=2
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.root.browserfree&hl=zh_TW
For the 5.21.13, you will need to change the write_wakeup_threshold to 16 and reboot via root browser or root explorer.
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Thank you for your time. I am installing the xda-dev link. I think the most draining part is the screen but we shall see after this apps gets onto my board. Whenever I will need this uninstaller for version 5.21.13 I'll contact you, thank you for your time and engagement. Learned a lot of new stuff today Cheers!
kwitu said:
Thank you for your time. I am installing the xda-dev link. I think the most draining part is the screen but we shall see after this apps gets onto my board. Whenever I will need this uninstaller for version 5.21.13 I'll contact you, thank you for your time and engagement. Learned a lot of new stuff today Cheers!
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/gyw6uq
This is the 5.21.13 uninstaller link.
I would like to introduce one more stuff in this thread. Though Supercharged V6 is great but used more battery and too complicated for beginner.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36794328#post36794328
That developer also has a small Kernel tweaking script with a bit memory management called KiskAssKerneler, it doesn't drain battery but works good, my system is also faster and memory management better alone with this script. For whose who want improvement but thought supercharge v6 is too complex, try this out.
EDIT: KickAss actually also used more battery but just might not be as much as V6. I would prefer to stick with V6 for more true performance.
I find that installing titanium backup and setting a schedule to clear system cache then reboot helps a ton with making it faster. I usually set this for 5-6 am in the morning when im asleep but you can change it to whatever time you want. I also set it to run everyday rather than every other day. I also recommend crossbreader, it helps a bunch!
To deal with lag I flashed Crossbreeder, OC'ed to 1.4GHz set zRam to 10%, set KSM, enabled purge assets, enabled 16-bit transparency, set SIO as I/O scheduler and Lionheart as CPU governor. I still get lag while multitasking but now is a good everyday phone.
Its gonna help a bit as there is no huge amount of data required to read over and over again. Not worth deleting music. Slightly noticable effect.
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