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I thought SGX540 that's superior than iphone4 would run new games without any lags but for new games such as 9mm and let's golf 3 i've face many stutter on those games. I'd like to ask others that you have problem like me or not ? or maybe next time i'd go back to ios or waiting ice cream sandwich. Those games are smooth in iphone4 but not in galaxy s that has superior GPU.
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
im currently on JVT.firmware
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
Yeah, sgx540 is better than the 535 use in iphone 4, but it's all about drivers and optimisations. And we can't deny that Apple is doing a wonderfull job with iOS.
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
Simplicitiy is very good!
alwo1303 said:
Simplicitiy is very good!
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how many ram does system take with that rom?
For games playing, 2.2.1(JSD) is a Must!
titooo7 said:
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
_breez_ said:
indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
lpalvaro said:
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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No, custom roms, even so called simple and bare ones, use more ram than stock roms. I recommend ZSJPK 2.2.1, which has about 180mb of ram on boot, and an average of 120-140mb or ram after two days' usage.
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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Then you do it without the script. What's the problem here? I have over 2,000 games on my phone. And no, that wasn't a typo. None of them lag.
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
bigmem kernel may help? its what i use
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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I've rolled back to froyo and now without apps in the background i0ve about 140mb of ram used, and now 9mm goes smooth. I'm not moving from froyo any more.
Also, now the battery lasts in 6 hours of screen usage, and with jvt only 4 hours
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
leroys said:
Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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Are they though? When I help someone out, I tell them correct information. If I don't know the correct information, I don't tell them anything. Why? Because incorrect information is worse than not helping at all. Few people in this thread have given remotely acceptable advice. No one needs to do a 3-step process, including rebooting your phone, just to play games; likewise, no one needs to downgrade to Froyo in order to game either.
I have Let's Golf! 3D installed currently, but I don't have the most recent revision of 9MM—although I have played it in the past. I have my phone's CPU and GPU overclocked, like I'm sure many of us do here, and I can play both without noticeable lag. I didn't have to reboot my phone to play them. I didn't have to uninstall apps to play them. I didn't have to flash an entirely new ROM to play them. And I certainly didn't need to stand on one leg with the phone above my head to play them.
Bad advice is just bad.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
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I posted what helped reducing lag in 9mm on my phone.
if you don't need the help i posted, that's too ****ing bad. the fact this topic was started shows people are facing the same problem with lack of usable ram memory for 9mm.
looks like you have some sort of magic phone with unlimited amounts of ram memory that never lags
the reason why i told him to reboot his phone is because ram usage is much less in most cases, right after booting up.
and btw, next time do some more effort instead of posting one line if my information is not correct
Hi i want to ask
How to optimize my phone RAM i use v6 supercharger but my ram is still 163mb
I use 4 messenger Catfizz,Line,yahoo,facebook
Thanks before:beer::beer:
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Use adrenaline engine
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Technically, it's hard to tell the difference performance-wise. Android does it's own memory management, but also it won't hurt anyone if you try RAM tweaks and see the result for yourself.
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Technically, it's hard to tell the difference performance-wise. Android does it's own memory management, but also it won't hurt anyone if you try RAM tweaks and see the result for yourself.
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remove facebook, yahoo, and all other apps that runs on the background,
even if you have v6, the apps still runs in the memory
no matter what ram tweak you do if you have background hog memory apps and due to the limitation of our device you shall fail
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remove facebook, yahoo, and all other apps that runs on the background,
even if you have v6, the apps still runs in the memory
no matter what ram tweak you do if you have background hog memory apps and due to the limitation of our device you shall fail
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I did not quite get that you said there, but I didin't encounter a single problem due to low RAM. Of course it can be because I don't usually run a lot of apps at once.
Thx but i very loves facebook app
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if you are much conscious about ram then never use and go product they are the hogger beast
check every app's ram consumption then you their alternative with less ram consumption
if you love ics keyboard, then there are 2, one uses about 10 mb and other uses about 20 mb
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I did not quite get that you said there, but I didin't encounter a single problem due to low RAM. Of course it can be because I don't usually run a lot of apps at once.
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even if you don't run the app, they actually run on the background doing things you don't know, consuming your battery and your ram
Death notice can u make a theme for M.U.R v2 with blacksense?thanks
:beer::beer::beer::beer:
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even if you don't run the app, they actually run on the background doing things you don't know, consuming your battery and your ram
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Well, thats true, but the RAM is meant to be cached (fully used) for quickly launching the desired application.
Best way to optimize RAM for starters is to monitor your background, cached and running processes well. First, freeze stock background running bloatware using TB. Mainly DRM content (some say it messes with ringtones and stuff but I never experienced that), wsynclmps, syncmIDs, maps (unfreeze it only when needede), software update(this really doesnt help and is waste of RAM+space), pico TTS , TTS service(these two are for voice to text conversion and are literally not much used), samsung account(is waste compared to play store), two email ones (use gmail app these dont help much), social hub , samsung push service.Choose adrenaline engine if you want multi tasking and v6 if you want more free ram.You can mix both of them but its risky and needs some scripting skills to remove the conflicts they make and highly NOT recommended.
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Well, thats true, but the RAM is meant to be cached (fully used) for quickly launching the desired application.
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completely agree with this one. less ram is not alway a good news in android system since it has unique RAM management. for quick acces and less RAM r/w some of app is stored in RAM's cache. SGY's default ram setting is already good enough for multitasking and gaming option. if you want a better performance in your device you don't need lesser RAM. instead of it you need a better memory and app management.
Thnks i use lessly ram now 121
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Is this normal?. my ram is really low and im only running what you can see?
Any advice please:fingers-crossed:
I wouldn't say that's too low. So you can sit back and relax
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oh rite thanks!
Yes show me ur cached process es
Mine is alot more like 144 mb free
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Sorry for the late reply. I was root/s-off a friends desire for him
here it is.
EDIT:::: I have 0 ram free now!
striped121 said:
Sorry for the late reply. I was root/s-off a friends desire for him
here it is.
EDIT:::: I have 0 ram free now!
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Reboot, delete some useless apps, close out of your programs more often.. etc
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that's too less mate.. i never have less than 70mb ram
even though i use SwiftKey and whats app
what i use is titanium tweaker app from the market
go to voltage set it to - 150 (for battery)
note set to - 150 only if you're oc to 1024
if higher don't do.. The phone won't respond..
then go to advance/turbocharger lmk
select megaram2
done see the difference
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dude unless u play games mine always shows 144 mb, remove **** that u dont use
download this from the market
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autorun.pro&hl=en
the paid one is awesome,but there is a free one also!, diavle the startup of junk bloatware and reboot!
4 bucks for a 87KB app? xD
Lowest ram I had was 51MB, and I use Sense 4.1. I would say using task killers help if your one of them people who want to see your ram high. If your device feels sluggish after use, use a task killer, or reboot.
I'm sure CM has that low mem problem though ither way. I saw someone posting bugs about it.
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Curiousn00b said:
4 bucks for a 87KB app? xD
Lowest ram I had was 51MB, and I use Sense 4.1. I would say using task killers help if your one of them people who want to see your ram high. If your device feels sluggish after use, use a task killer, or reboot.
I'm sure CM has that low mem problem though ither way. I saw someone posting bugs about it.
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use the free version then!
Suppose ill just ignore it then as my phone is smooth and fast anyhow. just curiious to why really. it's at about 70 now on average.
striped121 said:
Suppose ill just ignore it then as my phone is smooth and fast anyhow. just curiious to why really. it's at about 70 now on average.
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i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
When an Android app is no longer in use, the system will automatically suspend it in memory - while the app is still technically "open," suspended apps consume no resources (e.g. battery power or processing power) and sit idly in the background until needed again. This has the dual benefit of increasing the general responsiveness of Android devices, since apps don't need to be closed and reopened from scratch each time, but also ensuring background apps don't waste power needlessly
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Android manages the apps stored in memory automatically: when memory is low, the system will begin killing apps and processes that have been inactive for a while, in reverse order since they were last used (i.e. oldest first). This process is designed to be invisible to the user, such that users do not need to manage memory or the killing of apps themselves.[65] However, confusion over Android memory management has resulted in third-party task killers becoming popular on the Google Play store; these third-party task killers are generally regarded as doing more harm than good.
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source: Wikipedia
1ceb0x said:
i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
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Thanks for giving everyone who isn't aware some knowledge :highfive:Getting tired of these kinds of topics.
"More doesn't always mean better"
1ceb0x said:
i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
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but 1ce keeping them in the memory drains battery also right? so i prefer just remove some bloatware auto start aps
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Thanks for giving everyone who isn't aware some knowledge :highfive:Getting tired of these kinds of topics.
"More doesn't always mean better"
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if your tired of these kind of topics then simply dont read them.
I Thank you for the info and understand perfectly now as i've never used linux prior to android annd never wanted to.
cybervibin said:
but 1ce keeping them in the memory drains battery also right? so i prefer just remove some bloatware auto start aps
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wrong. they remain in memory but they will not consume anything. that's what cache memory means.
1ceb0x said:
wrong. they remain in memory but they will not consume anything. that's what cache memory means.
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I am backig up everything Ice wrote above...
Also if you need auto start manager(free) go check this two https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImltb2JsaWZlLnRvb2xib3guZnVsbCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94Il0.
Much more then just auto start managers..enjoy
I am currently on Xperia Nexus v3 and Trinity Kernel, and this gives me about 300MB free ram from the beginning. And I have used Greenify to help my low ram situation. However, Becuase I am running a lot of services in the background that I need, 300MB of ram is not enough for me and my phone lags like hell and always causing home launcher redraws etc.
So anyone can tell me how I can solve the problem? I heard AOSP ROMs gives more RAM, but then I won't be have cybershot mod along with AOSP, and camera is a big thing for me too.
Thanks guys for helping!!
In Linux, free RAM = wasted RAM
For "more RAM" it should mean "more usable RAM"
If Greenify really can't help you (it helps me a lot!), maybe you should uninstall some apps.
Ur lag isn't ram problem
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The only solution is to flash a custom rom or just wipe everything
try supercharger script... it help me a lot in reducing lag....
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lock launcher in memory
MrGezz said:
try supercharger script... it help me a lot in reducing lag....
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Where can you find this supercharger script?
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Where can you find this supercharger script?
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lwhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12058585
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Thanks for the replies
Once I launch something like Brower, it closes my archives like LMT, call recorder etc, so free ram is not wasted ram in my case
And even I lock the launcher or even put in system, it stills redraw.
And I am already using custom Rom and kernels, and I believed it's already supercharged
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And even I lock the launcher or even put in system, it stills redraw.
And I am already using custom Rom and kernels, and I believed it's already supercharged
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1. Then you did something wrong, no redraws for me
2. They are not
xdax1 said:
I heard AOSP ROMs gives more RAM, but then I won't be have cybershot mod along with AOSP, and camera is a big thing for me too.!
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exactly the same dilemma i had before i tried out PAC..you can always install a third party camera app..for me though, the stock AOSP camera is good enough
and regarding the RAM issue, i used PurePerformanceX..my lowest ram is at 80-90mb..no redraws or lags
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exactly the same dilemma i had before i tried out PAC..you can always install a third party camera app..for me though, the stock AOSP camera is good enough
and regarding the RAM issue, i used PurePerformanceX..my lowest ram is at 80-90mb..no redraws or lags
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I guess eventually I will have to go with PAC, just that I wish there is other solutions so I can keep my cybershot.
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I guess eventually I will have to go with PAC, just that I wish there is other solutions so I can keep my cybershot.
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why not try greenify?and i think PurePerformanceX can also be used with stock rom
boyheadkick said:
why not try greenify?and i think PurePerformanceX can also be used with stock
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Greenify is good.
xdax1 said:
I am currently on Xperia Nexus v3 and Trinity Kernel, and this gives me about 300MB free ram from the beginning. And I have used Greenify to help my low ram situation. However, Becuase I am running a lot of services in the background that I need, 300MB of ram is not enough for me and my phone lags like hell and always causing home launcher redraws etc.
So anyone can tell me how I can solve the problem? I heard AOSP ROMs gives more RAM, but then I won't be have cybershot mod along with AOSP, and camera is a big thing for me too.
Thanks guys for helping!!
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There are a lot of ways the combat this issue. You can try simple fixes i.e uninstalling apps or closing background processes or the slightly more advanced stuff like the v6 supercharger script, u can also go to development options and limit background processes or choose the option to close app/process as soon as user leaves (forgot the actual title, but yeah u get the idea!)
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There are a lot of ways the combat this issue. You can try simple fixes i.e uninstalling apps or closing background processes or the slightly more advanced stuff like the v6 supercharger script, u can also go to development options and limit background processes or choose the option to close app/process as soon as user leaves (forgot the actual title, but yeah u get the idea!)
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v6 supercharger script only works in ICS, at least that's what is says on the page of the one who made it, if that script works in JB the one who made it should update his page from time to time.
My free ram is about at 1.7 with 0 apps running in the task bar. Iam already using greenify, lspeed and uninstalled bunch of bloatware after rooting my device. Was wondering if we can all share how to improve battery life, tweak the stock rom further to free up more ramp?
Mine can go as high as 2.1 GB, unroot | google now launcher | limited the auto-launched apps
Running FB, Messenger, Work Email, Gmail, YahooMail, AdGuard, Fingerprint Service etc in the background.
Why would you want more free ram? In linux based os, free ram=unused uram=useless ram
Incogn said:
Why would you want more free ram? In linux based os, free ram=unused uram=useless ram
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It will determine how optimum your device is.
More free RAM = More Apps that you can load throughout the usage period. And it will keep the OS from reloading your apps.
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It will determine how optimum your device is.
More free RAM = More Apps that you can load throughout the usage period. And it will keep the OS from reloading your apps.
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A bit of both though, clearing apps out of ram will then cause them to cold launch which is slower. I guess that's not really what you're after though. If you're after base level free ram, that's ok, as long as you're disabling things that you won't be relaunching. For what it's worth though, free ram is about the same on CM so that's just where it sits on this phone. I've personally never had anything close and redraw/reopen on this phone on stock, CM, or miui (though miui has ram management adjustments to play with). Has this been an issue for you?
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A bit of both though, clearing apps out of ram will then cause them to cold launch which is slower. I guess that's not really what you're after though. If you're after base level free ram, that's ok, as long as you're disabling things that you won't be relaunching. For what it's worth though, free ram is about the same on CM so that's just where it sits on this phone. I've personally never had anything close and redraw/reopen on this phone on stock, CM, or miui (though miui has ram management adjustments to play with). Has this been an issue for you?
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Rarely like when I loaded 10+ apps and games, couple of benchmarks then went back and forth to them.
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Rarely like when I loaded 10+ apps and games, couple of benchmarks then went back and forth to them.
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Ah, that's certainly understandable, that's quite a load!
My have 3,5-4,5 of free RAM.
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My have 3,5-4,5 of free RAM.
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6GB variant? :cyclops:
Ofc, 4 gb cant have over it.
Im currently running the cm13 for the x727 4gb variant. I always have around 2.3 of free ram. Disabled all the bloatware that I saw fit and it runs smoothly. No cold launch.
Good to disable bloatwares, rarely used apps, apps causing wakelocks. Other than that, good to keep the apps in RAM. I see lots of people misusing Greenify misunderstanding this concept.
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Im currently running the cm13 for the x727 4gb variant. I always have around 2.3 of free ram. Disabled all the bloatware that I saw fit and it runs smoothly. No cold launch.
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How do you use headphones.... the included ones dont work correct?