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gaming performance in n5100/5110

heyyy... anyone can give me a review about gaming performance in note 8.... i found article say it stutering when play real racing 3... and this gadget have a poor performance in gaming??
can anyone give me a review about that...
i want to buy this n5100...
sorry for my bad english...

devilzzzz said:
heyyy... anyone can give me a review about gaming performance in note 8.... i found article say it stutering when play real racing 3... and this gadget have a poor performance in gaming??
can anyone give me a review about that...
i want to buy this n5100...
sorry for my bad english...
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For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.

My son just got this tablet and I can tell you every game we have put on it has worked flawlessly. For us any game that works on my 10.1 has played as well if not better on the note 8 (including real racing 3).

duyminhphan said:
For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
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Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....

rpmbnsf said:
My son just got this tablet and I can tell you every game we have put on it has worked flawlessly. For us any game that works on my 10.1 has played as well if not better on the note 8 (including real racing 3).
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Do you mean everything that work on note 10.1 also work for. Note 8???
I also have note 10.1 but that's to big for me...

devilzzzz said:
Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
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I think he means the shelf life... that it wont take long for games to start demanding more than what the note 8 has.
not that i agree completely..

devilzzzz said:
Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
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All devices with Exynos 4412 are proved to be great in stability test, almost no throttling.

I'm doing a complete thumb suck here, but I expect the mali400 gpu that's in the Note 8.0 to start showing it's age in a year to two years.
What I mean by that is top games will still be very playable... But lag will become more and more noticeable in certain areas of the game. Either that or some of the bells and whistles will be turned off in the version that's 'officially' available to us on the Play Store.
After all... There will be a never ending push for ever more demanding games to 'show off' just how much better flagship devices are to previous generations. The Note 8.0 has a weaker gpu than the phone I bought 2 years ago... It can't be *that* much longer before it can no longer keep pace...
Just sayin....

FaeMinx said:
I'm doing a complete thumb suck here, but I expect the mali400 gpu that's in the Note 8.0 to start showing it's age in a year to two years.
What I mean by that is top games will still be very playable... But lag will become more and more noticeable in certain areas of the game. Either that or some of the bells and whistles will be turned off in the version that's 'officially' available to us on the Play Store.
After all... There will be a never ending push for ever more demanding games to 'show off' just how much better flagship devices are to previous generations. The Note 8.0 has a weaker gpu than the phone I bought 2 years ago... It can't be *that* much longer before it can no longer keep pace...
Just sayin....
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True, but this applies to almost all new technology. Always something new coming out. I'll keep mine for a year and sell it when I upgrade to the next greatest thing

ok thanks... now i just wait for the gadget come hope everything work perfectly... gaming,browsing,watching... and the battery life i hope just from morning till afternoon or night... :laugh:

duyminhphan said:
For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
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Note 8 OR Nexus 7 Which one is good for gaming? Which is future proof (1 year atleast) in terms of gaming?

livetech2 said:
Note 8 OR Nexus 7 Which one is good for gaming? Which is future proof (1 year atleast) in terms of gaming?
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I think note 8.0 better. And maybe 6 month for heavy game. Normal games is no problems. Sorry for my bad English.
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The note 8 is very fast but uses the Mali 400 GPU, an older (is it two years old now?) GPU.
For gaming, I'd hold off until after Google I/O to see what devices are announced. If the N7 is refreshed with the Mali 604 or so (and/or a Tegra 4) and a decent display, you might want to wait until it can be ordered.
In ordinary use, the GN8 is the fastest Android device I've used, and has the least lag of any Android device I've used. The Nexus 7 is very good, but it's just not playing in this league. I'm sure there are some Tegra optimized games that the N7 will do better on, but the UI overall is not this quick.

Incredibly fast in my use, and I play numerous graphics intensive games. DEFINITELY better than n7, trust me, I've owned both
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Can the Mali 400 GPU be overclocked with a custom kernel in order to squeese a little more performance from it?
Overclocking the Tegra 2 GPU on my ASUS Transformer as well as the CPU made a big difference in its gaming performance.

roustabout said:
The note 8 is very fast but uses the Mali 400 GPU, an older (is it two years old now?) GPU.
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I'm having a little trouble tracking down exactly when the Mali-400 MP gpu was first released, but here's an article on it from 2008: !!!
http://beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=48319
It was still a pretty beefy gpu in the Galaxy SII in 2011... But as far as I know was upstaged by the Adreno 220, which was to be found in the HTC Sensation (the phone I bought in 2011).
Some more info from back then:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968

[Q] Nexus 7 CPU GPU vs Tegra 4

Hey Guys,
i want to buy a new Tablet soon. But I cant choose which device I should buy.
I heard the new Nexus 7 has a Snapdragon 600 not S4 Pro, just underglocked.
But is the new Nexus 7 faster than the Nvidia Shield ?
Thank you

Wait for custom kernels to come out to see how much we can overclock the new Nexus 7.

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Wait for custom kernels to come out to see how much we can overclock the new Nexus 7.
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Okay thanks for the Answer but what do you think could be faster? When Shield and Nexus 7 would be Overglocked which one would have more Performance?

the Shield for sure. the S4 Pro is a last gen processor. the T4 is still pretty new.
however, there are things to consider.
the New N7 is a tablet first, gaming "rig" second. its vice versa for the Shield.
the N7 is more portable
the N7 has a MUCH nicer screen
the Shield should only be bought if you plan on JUST playing games on it...something like a PS vita/Nintendo DS replacement. if you plan on using it for videos, surfing, other apps, i would stick with the N7.
my new N7 plays games beautifully....and honestly, I'm not sure i could tell the difference between it, and a T4 powered device. But I'm not one to get too cought up in the Frame Rate debate. the new one looks fantastic compared to my old N7, which looked fantastic compared to my galaxy nexu.

turdbogls said:
the Shield for sure. the S4 Pro is a last gen processor. the T4 is still pretty new.
however, there are things to consider.
the New N7 is a tablet first, gaming "rig" second. its vice versa for the Shield.
the N7 is more portable
the N7 has a MUCH nicer screen
the Shield should only be bought if you plan on JUST playing games on it...something like a PS vita/Nintendo DS replacement. if you plan on using it for videos, surfing, other apps, i would stick with the N7.
my new N7 plays games beautifully....and honestly, I'm not sure i could tell the difference between it, and a T4 powered device. But I'm not one to get too cought up in the Frame Rate debate. the new one looks fantastic compared to my old N7, which looked fantastic compared to my galaxy nexu.
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Hey i still have a old N7. But hasnt Tegra some Special effects on games? And is it possible to use These on a Nexus 7?

TeamEquinox said:
Hey i still have a old N7. But hasnt Tegra some Special effects on games? And is it possible to use These on a Nexus 7?
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Most likely not.
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TeamEquinox said:
Hey Guys,
i want to buy a new Tablet soon. But I cant choose which device I should buy.
I heard the new Nexus 7 has a Snapdragon 600 not S4 Pro, just underglocked.
But is the new Nexus 7 faster than the Nvidia Shield ?
Thank you
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No, the teardown reveals it is a s4 pro, I have a nexus 4, the s4 pro works best at 1.7ghz, for me, overclocking to 1.8 or higher actually makes the chip slower. The tegra 4 destroys the s4 pro, just because it is newer, just like the s800 desteroys the pro/s600. I have yet to get this tablet, but I suspect it is a lot faster than the tegra 3 of the original nexus 7
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IRX120 said:
No, the teardown reveals it is a s4 pro, I have a nexus 4, the s4 pro works best at 1.7ghz, for me, overclocking to 1.8 or higher actually makes the chip slower. The tegra 4 destroys the s4 pro, just because it is newer, just like the s800 desteroys the pro/s600. I have yet to get this tablet, but I suspect it is a lot faster than the tegra 3 of the original nexus 7
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I thought the opposite - the teardown shows it as a Snap 600...
SAUCE: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4

IRX120 said:
No, the teardown reveals it is a s4 pro, I have a nexus 4, the s4 pro works best at 1.7ghz, for me, overclocking to 1.8 or higher actually makes the chip slower. The tegra 4 destroys the s4 pro, just because it is newer, just like the s800 desteroys the pro/s600. I have yet to get this tablet, but I suspect it is a lot faster than the tegra 3 of the original nexus 7
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The chip is krait 300. Qualcomm can call it what it wants buts not the same s4 pro in the nexus 4.

albundy2010 said:
The chip is krait 300. Qualcomm can call it what it wants buts not the same s4 pro in the nexus 4.
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Oh? I'm confused then? So it is an s4? but a different one?
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Something like that. Its called one but its not one if that makes sense. Seems Qualcomm doesn't want to give the 600 name for anything under 1.7 GHz.
The naming scheme Qualcomm is using is nuts. But it is really essentially a 1.5 GHz snapdragon 600.
Edit. Adding link. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4

albundy2010 said:
Something like that. Its called one but its not one if that makes sense. Seems Qualcomm doesn't want to give the 600 name for anything under 1.7 GHz.
The naming scheme Qualcomm is using is nuts. But it is really essentially a 1.5 GHz snapdragon 600
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Yes this is the Website is it now a underglocked 600 or just a s4 pro?

IRX120 said:
Oh? I'm confused then? So it is an s4? but a different one?
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The iFixit teardown of the Galaxy S4 shows a chip named APQ8064, even if it's a Snapdragon 600.
Probably, it's just a new Snapdragon 600 version, made to run at 1.5 GHz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pF4G2k6NEk

Note 8.0 as a gaming tablet?

With the quad core processor and 2 gigs of ram it seems to hold up pretty good as a dedicated gaming tablet. What do you all think of the gaming potential of this little machine?
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I played all HD games that exist in play store!
All games played excellent on high graphic
GTA SA
Call of duty
Fifa 14
Anomaly 2
Backstab
MC 4
...
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perfect for gaming
Big4570 said:
With the quad core processor and 2 gigs of ram it seems to hold up pretty good as a dedicated gaming tablet. What do you all think of the gaming potential of this little machine?
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try ppsspp and play almost all your old psp games.so if it runs like a psp that's basically a portable gaming console...at least for me...even plays at higher resolutions....connect a joypad...but I try to keep gaming to a minimum...as in most lithium batteries, it will really push out the charge cycles and the battery is not replacable...still excellent bat life for me at least....

I think it's one of the best tablets on the market.

Zaybatzu said:
I think it's one of the best tablets on the market.
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This! All Games i have are Smooth to play without laggs or something similar.
Games i tested:
GTA: San Andreas
GTA: Vice City
Ravensword2
NOVA 3
Order & Chaos
and a bunch of games like Final Fantasy (3 - 5), EKO online, Iruna Online, world of goo etc
All this Games are playable on the highest settings.

Its one of the higher spec tablets (if not the highest spec tablet in the "smaller" 7 to 8" form factor), so obviously its going to hold its own with games for some time to come.

Tablet is great, but the battery should be better.

galaxy note 3 not seen as a tablet on playstore?
So being the proud owner of samsung galaxy S3 I found my self jealous of my friend being able to play Magic the gathering duels of the planeswalkers 2014 on his samsung galaxy tab 7 everywhere i read that the game is only compatible in tablets and thought hey I can do the same so purchased the slightly larger screen and better spec Galaxy Note 8.0 tablet on craigslist brand new, quickly destroyed the box and jumped to the play store ready to get my beast on! And surprice surprice! "Your device is not compatible" irritating would be how I would describe my current status if some one can shed some light as of how to over come this aweful situation im not trying to illegally obtain the game I want to pay for it and play it be able to get addons and updates please help and thanks in advance.
Model number GT-N5110 android 4.2.2

Darth Breh said:
So being the proud owner of samsung galaxy S3 I found my self jealous of my friend being able to play Magic the gathering duels of the planeswalkers 2014 on his samsung galaxy tab 7 everywhere i read that the game is only compatible in tablets and thought hey I can do the same so purchased the slightly larger screen and better spec Galaxy Note 8.0 tablet on craigslist brand new, quickly destroyed the box and jumped to the play store ready to get my beast on! And surprice surprice! "Your device is not compatible" irritating would be how I would describe my current status if some one can shed some light as of how to over come this aweful situation im not trying to illegally obtain the game I want to pay for it and play it be able to get addons and updates please help and thanks in advance.
Model number GT-N5110 android 4.2.2
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I think you can unlock all apps/games in the app store (even those that are not compatible with your device) by installing xposed framework and the appropriate module using wanam xposed or xblast from the play store. Not 100% sure but worth a look unless someone else can shed some light or suggest something else.

[Q] What can i do about the lag?

General question i realize. But even when playing simple games like candy crush it feels like my old note 2 was faster and my now iPhone 5s is definitely less lagging or not at all. I like the tablet but feel like i should have gotten the 8 instead. Im in south korea and got this at a PX; because tablets here are outrageously high. Should i put a rom on it? all i use it for is media,games,surfing, and reading.

bocaccio said:
General question i realize. But even when playing simple games like candy crush it feels like my old note 2 was faster and my now iPhone 5s is definitely less lagging or not at all. I like the tablet but feel like i should have gotten the 8 instead. Im in south korea and got this at a PX; because tablets here are outrageously high. Should i put a rom on it? all i use it for is media,games,surfing, and reading.
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I'm going to assume you have the T210 since you didn't say.
Your "old note 2" has much better specs than this Tab. Note 2 has Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A9, with 2g of ram
Tab 3 T210 has dual-core Marvel 1.2 GHz with 1g of ram.
Yes, a custom rom will help, but it can only do so much with those specs.

From what you have said. I'll either keep it for what im using it for and deal w the lag or sell and buy the 8inch model. thanks

Option, power saving mode, un check cpu power. Something it turn auto and make your games lag. Only use the cpu power for when you are going to sleep
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Tab s4 vs pixel slate

Tab s4 vs pixel slate base model. Both are in the same price range. Which one do you recommend? I like to use the tablet as a laptop so DeX and chrome OS are important to me. I also like to play some 3D heavy android games.

F That Intel® Celeron® Processor £549 that's not worth it i would personally stick with Qualcomm Snapdragon 835

Even the i5 on the slate is suppose to struggle with games atm

Chromebook is not a replacement for Android in my opinion. They say Android tablets are dead, but here they are putting Android apps into Chromebook... Makes no sense. IMO get a Chromebook with keyboard or at least a convertible, or get a real Android tablet like s4... Neither one replaces the other. Pubg runs nicely on my tab s4, love it

Reuben_skelz92 said:
Even the i5 on the slate is suppose to struggle with games atm
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I also wasn't sure about the GPU performance on Intel. How is DeX? Is it better or on a par with ChromeOS?

starfall88 said:
I also wasn't sure about the GPU performance on Intel. How is DeX? Is it better or on a par with ChromeOS?
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I don't really use It but it seems to work well when I've tested it..I don't think the slate is worth the money. But both have there limitations and wont be able to completely replace a laptop. Imo if you want the best Android tablet it's the tab s4. Chrome os is early stages on a portable tablet