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How's TI OMAP4 performance on GNex?

Guys, I don't know if it's the right section, so I'll gladly ask to a moderator to move it, if I'm wrong.
To the point, I'm about to get a new GNex to me, and every single place where I read, I always hear good things about the phone. I wanted to ask how is the day-to-day performance, gaming performance and how it performs when compared to Tegra 2 or Qualcomm S3 or S4. I know Quadrant is not an indicative of the phone's real performance, so I want your help to figure out why Quadrant results are poor compared even to Tegra 2, and if I'll feel any hiccups or something like that...
Thanks for the help!

jhnjrdan said:
Guys, I don't know if it's the right section, so I'll gladly ask to a moderator to move it, if I'm wrong.
To the point, I'm about to get a new GNex to me, and every single place where I read, I always hear good things about the phone. I wanted to ask how is the day-to-day performance, gaming performance and how it performs when compared to Tegra 2 or Qualcomm S3 or S4. I know Quadrant is not an indicative of the phone's real performance, so I want your help to figure out why Quadrant results are poor compared even to Tegra 2, and if I'll feel any hiccups or something like that...
Thanks for the help!
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I haven't experienced any hiccups since the 4.1.1 update and gaming is definitely very smoothe.
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Games are smooth, and the performance is good. Overall the OMAP is adequate for the purposes.
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you get low quadrant scores on aosp/cm builds. Stock Google is also like aosp, thus lower scores.
If you really want to check, try antutu.

day-to-day performance:
Tegra 2 + Snapdragon S3: TI OMAP 4460 wipes the floor with those two.
Snapdragon S4: Best mobile "day-to-day" SOC to date, so you figure it out.

Well,
I came from an LG Optimus 2x (Tegra2 @ 1GHz, 512MB of RAM) and the change was HUGE!!!
Tegra 2 was a great graphics oriented SoC and with the Nexus I still get more performance with more pixels to render (1280x720 vs 800x480). I know that more RAM on the Nexus helps, but gaming is still great in the Nexus.
In many websites they still recommend the Galaxy Nexus from newer phones because of the value/price ratio. In fact, in Android Central, the Galaxy Nexus was still the best android phone as of July 2012 thanks to the buttery UI in Jelly Bean which makes it as fast as an S3 or a OneX. I only have a couple of weeks with the phone and I love it.
Cheers!

gokpog said:
day-to-day performance:
Tegra 2 + Snapdragon S3: TI OMAP 4460 wipes the floor with those two.
Snapdragon S4: Best mobile "day-to-day" SOC to date, so you figure it out.
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what you mean with that? OMAP is better or not? didn't understand it

when you wipe floor with something, that means that thing is rubbish.

atifsh said:
when you wipe floor with something, that means that thing is rubbish.
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so OMAP4 > S3, okay

Yes the omap is a superb chipset one of my favorites. Its more elegantly designed then some others out there. Dual channel memory is huge. Decodes 1080p video at the hardware level. Its good.

atifsh said:
you get low quadrant scores on aosp/cm builds. Stock Google is also like aosp, thus lower scores.
If you really want to check, try antutu.
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So, if GNex was a TouchWiz Samsung, for example, Quadrant scores would be higher? If that's true, that's a relief, because AnTuTu produces higher scores than Exynos, for instance. About JB 4.1.1, does it affect gaming performance in anyway?

Snapdragon S4 is the king of dual core.
However, OMAP 4460 is still quite the respectable processor.

Optimus G Pro vs Galaxy Note 2

Optimus G Pro vs Galaxy Note 2
Hey guys i need help with this list, i have never used a LG phone, Im listing the advantages of both plz let me know if i have left something out
Galaxy Note 2
S Pen
microSD, up to 64 GB
Stereo FM
True Blacks (AMOLED Display)
Air View
64 GB storage
Split Screen
Simultaneous Video & Image Recording
Removable Battery
Optimus G Pro
13MP Camera
Lighter
1080p Resolution
Higher PPI
Brighter Display (IPS Display)
True Whites (IPS Display)
Adobe Flash Built In
2.4 MP Front Camera
Slimmer Bezel
Curved Glass

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note 2 got true black? while og pro got true colors
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Miracast for LG.
LG Optimus G E971

Note 2 winner big battery.n quadrant high score

nabilsweet007 said:
Note 2 winner big battery.n quadrant high score
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Quadrant means nothing. I would go with the optimus since it has a superior processor, screen, and build quality.
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nabilsweet007 said:
Note 2 winner big battery.n quadrant high score
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Wuuuuut? Are you natttttttz? The OG Pro has bigger battery it's 3140mAh. And Quadrant is 12300
Also it only slightly inferior to Intel's tablets in memory speed and is top of the hill in overall speed

cyprusx said:
microSD, up to 64 GB
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OG Pro has
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OG Pro has
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What's that? Miracast? OG Pro has it
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Sort of has
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OG Pro has
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OG Pro has

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Optimus G Pro vs Galaxy Note 2
Hey guys i need help with this list, i have never used a LG phone, Im listing the advantages of both plz let me know if i have left something out
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The primary differences are the screen & the S-Pen.
720 vs 1080 => G PRO
Pen => Note II
Everything else is subjective; too close to call.
Highly capable quad-core processors, screen (phone) size is 5.5", µSD card slot in both devices and removable battery in both - battery capacity is 3100 (Note) vs 3140 (G Pro).
Standard eMMC storage: G Pro is listed as 32GB vs. 16GB for the Note II
If the 32GB G Pro comes in at the same cost as the 16GB Note II, then the G Pro edges out the Note (in my book).
Here, this small comparison from Phone Arena should help.

hirent said:
The primary differences are the screen & the S-Pen.
720 vs 1080 => G PRO
Pen => Note II
Everything else is subjective; too close to call.
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The Qualcomm Adreno320 blows Eyxos 4412 out of the water, it's twice as fast especially in new benches, not like in outdated Quadrant, Nenamark etc

Billy Madison said:
The Qualcomm Adreno320 blows Eyxos 4412 out of the water, it's twice as fast especially in new benches, not like in outdated Quadrant, Nenamark etc
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You are comparing a GPU to a CPU. Our CPU (APQ8064) kicks the 4412's ass, but our GPU is about equivalent. Our CPU is more efficient and theoretically faster than the Exynos due to a newer ARM architecture base and other Qualcomm optimizations.

I have both Note2 and E975.(No G pro of course)
If you want a phone with 5.5 inch screen, I think you should treat it as a memo or notebook, not a regular phone.
So S-Pen is a very essential part of this kind of usage(memo and notebook).
I am going to sell out my Note2 because it's not very convenient for daily use.(too big to handle with one hand)
I think I will not apply any phone with screen bigger than 4.8/5.0 inch in the future.
E975 is perfect for me, both in performance and look and size~
So, please consider usage of your phone before you buy one of these big devices.

xboxfanj said:
but our GPU is about equivalent
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No, you've mistaken. Go in this thread, catch GPU mark, fire it on both 4412 and adreno 320 and post your results 2 compare. You'll see that 320 is twice faster than your Mali 400.
You simply look into old benchmarks results if you think our GPUs are equivalent

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No, you've mistaken. Go in this thread, catch GPU mark, fire it on both 4412 and adreno 320 and post your results 2 compare. You'll see that 320 is twice faster than your Mali 400.
You simply look into old benchmarks results if you think our GPUs are equivalent
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In antutu, we beat exynos in 3d graphics but they beat us in 2d.
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xboxfanj said:
In antutu, we beat exynos in 3d graphics but they beat us in 2d.
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2D? What's that? The most irrelevant spec to bench in the first place. When your 2d rendering speed is slow and not enough? And probably Exynos is faster in 2d cause it renders 2d at full throttle while Qualcomm only work on slow speed like 384Mhz or something. Just probably

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2D? What's that? The most irrelevant spec to bench in the first place. When your 2d rendering speed is slow and not enough? And probably Exynos is faster in 2d cause it renders 2d at full throttle while Qualcomm only work on slow speed like 384Mhz or something. Just probably
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I believe he was only talking benchmark wise, not real situation. However, 2D is also important. since your launcher run in 2d. You are also mixing CPU and GPU speed.

Buy this, or wait for Tegra 4 Tablet?

Hello,
I was going to buy this tablet soon but I just found out about the Tegra 4 CPU.
It is supposed to have better performance than SnapDragon S4 CPU which the Nexus 7 flo tablet has.
Do you think I should wait until a 7 inch Tegra 4 Tablet comes onto the market or should I buy the Nexus 7 now?
Thanks,
The Doolster

Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.

Do whatever will make you happy. If you're the patient type then just wait.
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Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.
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Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?

RCranium666 said:
Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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Gotta be able to flip those pages faster than you can blink, yo.

Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.

RCranium666 said:
Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
2013 N7 Rocking CleanRom!

conan1600 said:
Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.
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I'm thinking that I should just get this tab and be happy with it for a year or more. I mean the most intensive game I play is Riptide GP2, and my Nexus 4 runs that fine on stock with high settings. I will also be doing some emulation on it, but if my Nexus 4 can run it, the Nexus 7 will be able to even better
2.3 GHz is insane for a mobile device that is $230. But since money is pretty tight for me maybe a $230 tablet is probably all I will be able to afford. And about the Kindle Fire, those have always been bad for development and I like to have root and custom roms, and stuff.
So I think this will be the tablet that I'm going to get.
Thanks

sonofevil77 said:
I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
2013 N7 Rocking CleanRom!
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Kindle community's for me is meh. But if nook follows in the steps of kindle well then that could be an inexpensive toy with some real nice specs after root and rom.

Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.

Hello,
the Tegra 4 SoC do not support OpenGL ES 3.0 fully.
If you want to enjoy AAA games or apps in the near future you might not be able to do so.
Also most of the recent Tegra SoC had bad sound quality through headphones and tend to overheat.
Best regards,
pootney

You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android game made today.
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Richieboy67 said:
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android have made today.
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However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.

i use to be all about tegra myself but tegra is not all that good. battery life is horrible and there are heat issues, the htc one x i had got pretty freaking hot. i wanted a tegra 4 tablet like the new toshiba excite but for $480<==F that. i already spent $400 for preordering my ps4 so im not gonna spend that kind of money on a tablet. Nexus 7 is perfect and lightweight. its $270 i can run android games and emulators. with a rooted nexus 7 you can bluetooth a ps3 controller to it for those games and emulators. plus it runs the default android OS which is the best OS out there. The nexus 7 will have a lot more support from devs for kernels, roms, mods, etc...... Seriously buy a nexus 7 and with the money, give it a nice case. kernels for this device can OC the cpu/gpu as well.

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However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.
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Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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Richieboy67 said:
Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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No, I don't THINK that will happen, but let's be honest. 95% of devices won't get KLP anyways. I'm not saying it wont run it, just that the overkill may not be overkill in 5 months. History says otherwise, but look at apple updates. Sometimes the new releases run like crap on older devices.
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icase81 said:
Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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I assure you, I have PLENTY of Tegra device experience. Moto Xoom, LG G2x, Nexus 7, Droid X2, HTC One X+, development in general for all devices. Believe me when I say, nVidia says things work one way, and more often than not, they don't. They require a LOT of extra development workarounds and time to optimize and get them to behave acceptably. I have a feeling that Asus benefited from the Google relationship with the Nexus 7 being a Tegra 3 and applied that knowledge to the rest of their devices. If Asus was willing to spend the time and engineering brains to figure out all those work arounds, kudos to them. Most other manufacturers were not. Even things that are EASY to develop for barely get Android updates, and if theres any sign of it not working right, they just throw in the towel.
The original Nexus 7 worked well, and I'm not saying your Asus tablet doesn't, but the vast majority of nVidia powered devices are not good in the long run.
Check out this article about the history of the way nVidia has dealt with the Tegra chips.
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/02/18/nvidias-telegraphs-tegras-woes-at-ces/
Also, sweet Mustang. I happen to drive a 64 Mercury Comet wagon with a 427FE that runs high 8's. Its a Dyno Don car. I dont own it, just drive it, but its a blast.

stanglifemike said:
WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
SwiftKey'ed from my White Sprint Note 2 using XDA Premium
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Tegra Devices in general are just bleh. Video play back always seems lacking. /shrug
Asus will only update their devices once. maybe twice. That isn't support. They only do that as they have a "Life cycle" of their devices. Once reached. Its end of line.
Best display? Lol you lost me there.

The Tegra 4's CPU is equal or better than the SD 800. The Tegra 4's GPU is also equal or better than the Adreno 330.
For those saying that the battery life is horrible - what are you smoking? One of the things the Tegra 3 was lauded for was battery life. Anandtech recorded 18 HOURS of video playback with the Tegra 4 - not even the iPad could touch that.
IMO, the Tegra 4 is a premium SoC. If you really want the latest and greatest, wait for the Tegra 4. Otherwise, the N7v2 will do just fine.
Don't kid yourselves into thinking the Tegra 4 is horrible though...

[Q] What can i do about the lag?

General question i realize. But even when playing simple games like candy crush it feels like my old note 2 was faster and my now iPhone 5s is definitely less lagging or not at all. I like the tablet but feel like i should have gotten the 8 instead. Im in south korea and got this at a PX; because tablets here are outrageously high. Should i put a rom on it? all i use it for is media,games,surfing, and reading.

bocaccio said:
General question i realize. But even when playing simple games like candy crush it feels like my old note 2 was faster and my now iPhone 5s is definitely less lagging or not at all. I like the tablet but feel like i should have gotten the 8 instead. Im in south korea and got this at a PX; because tablets here are outrageously high. Should i put a rom on it? all i use it for is media,games,surfing, and reading.
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I'm going to assume you have the T210 since you didn't say.
Your "old note 2" has much better specs than this Tab. Note 2 has Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A9, with 2g of ram
Tab 3 T210 has dual-core Marvel 1.2 GHz with 1g of ram.
Yes, a custom rom will help, but it can only do so much with those specs.

From what you have said. I'll either keep it for what im using it for and deal w the lag or sell and buy the 8inch model. thanks

Option, power saving mode, un check cpu power. Something it turn auto and make your games lag. Only use the cpu power for when you are going to sleep
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Galaxy Tab S 10.5" Exynos vs Snapdragon Performance?

Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?

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The tab s will get you 8 hours of on screen time. No lag during gameplay but only at loading screens idk about note pro.

PunkOz said:
Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?
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i have just yesterday went to a seller, whose add for Pro 12.2 i saw yesterday. i checked the tab, and i was no convinced! its TOO big! its like those old laptops with huge screens. it FEELS quite heavy and makes it more usable for showing stuff to others, like more than 3 people. i mean that about screen size. its too bright, for night use as well. it would kinda lite up the room ur in at night. almost IMPOSSIBLE for one hand use and its thicker than Tab S. for comparison, LTE Pro 12.2 is 753Grams whereas, LTE Tab S 10.5 467Grams. its 268Gb lighter, the Tab S! also noticeably thinner at 6.6mm where Pro 12.2 is 8mm thick.
and honestly if u need it for school, the thinner and lighter it is the better. i would suggest Tab S 10.5 any day.

Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?

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Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?
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it should be Snapdragon cause of better development from devs and better optimization.

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Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?
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Have you considered the Nvidia shield? It's 8 inches but graphics performance is excellent and it got updated to Lolipop. For 10 inch tablets IMO the Samsung is the best out there.

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Have you considered the Nvidia shield? It's 8 inches but graphics performance is excellent and it got updated to Lolipop. For 10 inch tablets IMO the Samsung is the best out there.
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Yes I have, but Ive seen bad reviews about the Nvidia Shield display, I knkw that the speaker ans internals are better! But I need it for school and Im a casual gamer, I play games like PvZ, Real Racing, Clash of Clans, Dead Trigger 2... I wont use nvidias streaming service, I just want a tablet for school that allows me to play those games smoothly with a decent camera.

dude , buy a nexus 9

PunkOz said:
Yes I have, but Ive seen bad reviews about the Nvidia Shield display, I knkw that the speaker ans internals are better! But I need it for school and Im a casual gamer, I play games like PvZ, Real Racing, Clash of Clans, Dead Trigger 2... I wont use nvidias streaming service, I just want a tablet for school that allows me to play those games smoothly with a decent camera.
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See here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8670/google-nexus-9-preliminary-findings/3
Although I am not sure which version of Galaxy tab/Pro is reflected in the benchmarks.
And with regards to cameras on tablets, I advise you to forget about it. Even Phones dedicated to "Photography" give very poor results.

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dude , buy a nexus 9
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I'm not sure, I have a Nexus 5 already and.. I've heard bad reviews about Nexus 9 everywhere!
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See here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8670/google-nexus-9-preliminary-findings/3
Although I am not sure which version of Galaxy tab/Pro is reflected in the benchmarks.
And with regards to cameras on tablets, I advise you to forget about it. Even Phones dedicated to "Photography" give very poor results.
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Yeah, I just don't want it to be way too crappy like the Nvidia Shield camera.

sku|| said:
dude , buy a nexus 9
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Dont get the Nexus 9 yet, I exchange mine for the tab s 10.5 since Best Buy has the holiday sale for $399 but so far many apps arent optimized for the Nexus 9. I played some games on this tablet. its a bit laggy only on asphalt 8 but everything else is buttery smooth. I suggest put google launcher and google keyboard, it becomes a Nexus device in no time. It has a few updates that has stability issues so everything is good so far. Just hope Samsung does update it to lollipop. Samsung has a bad track record in updating tablets very late.

PunkOz said:
Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?
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I have used the entire of the 2014 galaxy tab and note tablet line. The note 12.2 is an enormous device. As someone stated earlier, it is like having a laptop with you. IMO if you like a 10" tablet, and don't mind the functionality of an S-pen, the Galaxy Note 10.1" (2014 edition) is very close in hardware specifications, to the Galaxy Tab S 10.5.
The Note is 299 ppi vs 288 ppi on the Tab S. Battery for the Note is 8220mAh where the Tab is 7990mAh. They both have the exact same camera, 8pm, with a 2mp front camera. Wifi, Bluetooth and USB are all exactly the same. Dual band AC wifi, Bluetooth 4.0 and USB 2.0.
The Note however is a Snapdragon processor, meaning if you wanted to root or install a customer rom, there is a greater chance of developer support over the Tab S.
I hope this helps. Anymore questions, just shoot me a message.