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Games on the Galaxy Nexus [VIDEO]

It handles quite good and the phone didn't get that hot.

Hah.. It's not about me it's about you and showing you these games.
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looks smooth - well impressed

now get a list of the best games and apps together

really really good

All I'm worried about is that the next gen games won't work well with the Galaxy Nexus. These games look great, but with Apple and other companies (e.g Samsung) pushing mobile gaming, and the new mobile GPU's that are coming out, ours is already obsoleted and probably won't be good enough to play a lot of games in the future
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mohitrocks said:
All I'm worried about is that the next gen games won't work well with the Galaxy Nexus. These games look great, but with Apple and other companies (e.g Samsung) pushing mobile gaming, and the new mobile GPU's that are coming out, ours is already obsoleted and probably won't be good enough to play a lot of games in the future
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From what I've seen, gaming on the "higher end" phones simply just add useless eye candy and don't effect overall game play at all. I love eye candy, don't get me wrong, but I don't fear that we'll be left out in the cold.
With Quad-Core not even out yet, I don't think we'll be seeing anything that requires a "Quad-Core or higher" for a long time.
I also just noticed how the software buttons rotate depending on orientation. Life's simple joy!

Forgive me for not being so knowledgeable on technology, but I would be mistaken in thinking that even if Quad-Core is released, most phones won't even be able to utilise it properly for a good year or two? And by the time they are put to good use, all our Galaxy Nexus contracts will be up and we'll be eligible for an upgrade and we'll be hopping on the newest Nexus?
So quad-core doesn't even matter for a while even if they are being released next year?
Back on topic the phone looks insanely smooth, even when you had all them games open it was silky! I'm loving it a lot, getting it tomorrow

could you test the kairosoft games? like game dev story and the others?
on honeycomb if you used mulittouch zooming all their apps crashed. kinda worried it may be the same with the GNex.

The screen is good but until the games are updated 'proper' we will not know how good performance can really be.
The screen is really good.

I read on another thread that Gameloft games will not work on the Nexus, is that true?
Edit: Nevermind, I just saw the video and he plays 9mm

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The screen is good but until the games are updated 'proper' we will not know how good performance can really be.
The screen is really good.
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Exactly my thoughts. For example on mine Plants v. Zombies looks great and works great for a few minutes, then freezes when under heavy load (i.e. "Final Wave" pushes). It can't be the GPU or memory issues because other (just as graphically heavy- if not more so) games (like Tiki Golf 2) are perfect.

I just want to clarify how good that first game is?

Check out the Verge's Transformer Prime review http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2601558/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-review
They play the game and attach it to a 52" HD screen!

The subject that was bound to come back sometime - Gaming

Hey everyone,
This question was bound to come back sometime, and since I have one day left to return the Galaxy Nexus, I wanted to re-raise the issue.
First of all, the GPU of the Galaxy Nexus is the PowerVR SGX540 clocked at 307mhz. Other phones that have come out relatively close to the Galaxy Nexus are the Samsung Galaxy S ll , HTC EVO 3D and finally the iPhone 4s (or the iPad in the site below) have much better benchmark scores compared to the Galaxy Nexus. Now I know the performance heavily depends on the drivers/etc installed but would that make any difference from a phone like the Galaxy S in terms of gaming performance?
According to these benchmarks: here the phone with the PowerVR SGX 540 at 300mhz (Optimus 3D) performs pretty horribly, and I have this phone for another 14 months. Since I consider myself an avid gamer, I want to know if you guys think this phone can last 14 months in terms of the GPU. I know its found in plenty of older devices such as the Galaxy S and the Nexus S, but there are so many games already optimized for it so do you guys think developers will continue to support this fairly dated GPU for the 14 months to come?
Now I'm no technology expert, so I'd appreciate if someone else could help me out here
Thanks,
Mosh

benchmarks don't really mean much to be honest. you could run the exact same test 10 times and get a different result each time.
as far as what this phone can handle... well, i have tried the following:
Shadow Gun
Sentinel 3
Samurai II
Fruit Ninja
Field Runners HD
Shinobi Barrage
all those games play fine for the most part, just a lil slow down here & there in the more graphically intense games like Shadow Gun(this game also makes the phone run very hot). as far as other phones go, i have tried all those games on my Rezound and they played just fine on that phone to. actually, Shadow Gun was a bit smoother on the Rezound(but only slightly).
i'd say as far as 'top-of-line' phones go(on Verizon at least) the 2 tops are the Nexus & the Rezound.
as for the future, supposedly Asus & HTC have quad-core phones with Tegra 3 GPU's coming out 1st Q 2012, but who knows how soon that actually will be(most likely will be push backs & won't see the light until summer or later)

First, the GN GPU is clocked at 384 MHz, second there is not yet a single game (game, not benchmark!) out there that comes close to utilizing the Tegra2 GPU (which is not "very good" either) to its fullest. Draw your own conclusions.
Mine are that the GN GPU will be more than enough until the phone is "old tech" anyway.

Valynor said:
First, the GN GPU is clocked at 384 MHz, second there is not yet a single game (game, not benchmark!) out there that comes close to utilizing the Tegra2 GPU (which is not "very good" either) to its fullest. Draw your own conclusions.
Mine are that the GN GPU will be more than enough until the phone is "old tech" anyway.
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Umm.. no.. its actually clocked at 307MHZ. Only way to see it clocked at 384MHZ is if you OC to 1.4 GHZ (CPU) which many Nexus become unstable or become slower for some reason. The Rez plays games better but its not a huge upgrade either. If you want a stronger GPU, wait for the Adreno 225+ or the new Galaxy S3. The Tegra 3 from what I remember reading seems to be still slower than the Exynos chip which to me is a dissappointment.
If we get games like Real Racing 2 graphics or better, our GPU's will not be strong enough to support them. The iPad 2 at times slightly stutters on Real Racing 2 even with its strong GPU.

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benchmarks don't really mean much to be honest. you could run the exact same test 10 times and get a different result each time.
as far as what this phone can handle... well, i have tried the following:
Shadow Gun
Sentinel 3
Samurai II
Fruit Ninja
Field Runners HD
Shinobi Barrage
all those games play fine for the most part, just a lil slow down here & there in the more graphically intense games like Shadow Gun(this game also makes the phone run very hot). as far as other phones go, i have tried all those games on my Rezound and they played just fine on that phone to. actually, Shadow Gun was a bit smoother on the Rezound(but only slightly).
i'd say as far as 'top-of-line' phones go(on Verizon at least) the 2 tops are the Nexus & the Rezound.
as for the future, supposedly Asus & HTC have quad-core phones with Tegra 3 GPU's coming out 1st Q 2012, but who knows how soon that actually will be(most likely will be push backs & won't see the light until summer or later)
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Valynor said:
First, the GN GPU is clocked at 384 MHz, second there is not yet a single game (game, not benchmark!) out there that comes close to utilizing the Tegra2 GPU (which is not "very good" either) to its fullest. Draw your own conclusions.
Mine are that the GN GPU will be more than enough until the phone is "old tech" anyway.
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The only game that I've tried to play other than Words with friends and Hanging with friends is Airport Mania 2 HD, which runs horribly on my Galaxy Nexus (with and without GPU rendering forced). Just food for thought. I'm wondering if 4.0.3 will help it out any. If it does, good, if not, oh well as I really don't play games that often, but it would still be nice to be able to play it on a "top of the line" phone. Other than that, I still like my phone.

I noticed the slow downs in Shadow Gun too. Which prompted me to try overclocking. My phone stutters at 1.4 but very smooth at 1.35. Games play better too. And they're just getting started, who knows what they can do... I think its gonna work out great.
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mohitrocks said:
Other phones that have come out relatively close to the Galaxy Nexus are the Samsung Galaxy S ll , HTC EVO 3D and finally the iPhone 4s (or the iPad in the site below) have much better benchmark scores compared to the Galaxy Nexus.
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The A5 in the iPhone 4s and iPad 2 has a dual-core SGX543MP2, which is why it benchmarks a lot higher. If you want a mobile device that will give the best gaming experience, the iPhone 4s is your best bet as it has the most powerful GPU out of all phones available.

i thought the gpu was 308 mhz? aaaand you don't need to oc to 1.4ghz for 384 mhz. i'm running 384 mhz stock and uv'ed. and yeah the 543mp2 suck up juice when you push them. but so does the 540. i'm happy with it. great balanced phone. should last two years. and somebody supposedly oc'ed the the 540 to 512mhz but i haven't seen a followup or proof yet so who knows.

You want a great gaming device, get a tablet, or better yet, the PS Vita, which will have much better software titles from A+ game studios.
I hear all of this talk about how well or how poorly these devices (i4s included) do with gaming, but I say, who cares? There are good games on Android and iOS, but hardly anything worth investing 30-40 hours of time in, like the Vita will have. The way I see it, if I really wanted to have an amazing portable gaming experience, the 250 dollar Vita will give me Uncharted, Killzone, Metal Gear Solid, God of War, LittleBigPlanet, etc etc. The list goes on. Plus that 250 dollars will, as a console, last me more than 2 years. Plus it actually has buttons and thumbsticks and such, things that are pretty important IMO.

Thanks for all the replies guys!
One thing to be noted though: The GPU can be overclocked without overclocking the CPU.
Another thing though, I'm actually not going to return it because I realized that I barely need to play a 20+ hour game on my phone. At home I have a computer (With an i5 2500k and a GTX 560 Ti), Ps3, xbox 360, etc so there's no room for a mobile device in terms of gaming at home, and when I'm out I'm usually at school so I barely game, and when I do, casual games are sufficient for my needs.
Thanks again guys

The gs2 epic touch gets the Mali 400 I think. Its an older but still very fast gpu. My wife's gs2 pulls 4200+ quadrant stock. Considered one of the best on the market...even w age.

stkiswr said:
The gs2 epic touch gets the Mali 400 I think. Its an older but still very fast gpu. My wife's gs2 pulls 4200+ quadrant stock. Considered one of the best on the market...even w age.
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Quadrant doesn't mean much, it isn't optimized for ICS yet.

The Mali 400 is a newer and much faster GPU than the SGX540, the 540 is a leftover from the original Galaxy S and Nexus S. The Exynos CPU is nothing short of amazing. I did some side by side testing of the Nexus and the GS2 today and it wasn't even close the GS2 smoked it in every test and game.
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cbpagent72 said:
The Mali 400 is a newer and much faster GPU than the SGX540, the 540 is a leftover from the original Galaxy S and Nexus S. The Exynos CPU is nothing short of amazing. I did some side by side testing of the Nexus and the GS2 today and it wasn't even close the GS2 smoked it in every test and game.
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I wasn't trying to come off that quadrant was THE benchmark but over 4k stock seems nice.
I knew the gs2 was a beast but had no idea til we bought it. No buyers remorse here. It can stay on gbread forever for all I care. It runs better than anything I have used.

Haters gonna hate, but if you want a device for gaming, you should honestly look at an Apple device. The native nature of iOS apps gives Apple an advantage over Android right from the get go. Java apps will always be slower than apps written in C (or in this case Objective-C) for any given level of coder skill. Then you have to consider that Apple's current iPhone/iPad platform are running hardware that is uncharacteristically powerful compared to not only what Apple is notorious for using, but to most Android devices as well. Finally, the grim reality is still that the big name studios prefer to develop for iOS.
If you are ok with giving up many of the freedoms you may have become accustomed to with Android in exchange for gaming performance and selection, then the 4S is probably a good choice.
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vash1053 said:
Haters gonna hate, but if you want a device for gaming, you should honestly look at an Apple device. The native nature of iOS apps gives Apple an advantage over Android right from the get go. Java apps will always be slower than apps written in C (or in this case Objective-C) for any given level of coder skill. Then you have to consider that Apple's current iPhone/iPad platform are running hardware that is uncharacteristically powerful compared to not only what Apple is notorious for using, but to most Android devices as well. Finally, the grim reality is still that the big name studios prefer to develop for iOS.
If you are ok with giving up many of the freedoms you may have become accustomed to with Android in exchange for gaming performance and selection, then the 4S is probably a good choice.
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But can you play super nintendo on a bigger screen?
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Lol you can get a gs2, pair a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to the phone and play and game u want. Can't get closer than that

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Lol you can get a gs2, pair a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to the phone and play and game u want. Can't get closer than that
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overstatement, but close. you can do the same with the nexus too.

mohitrocks said:
Thanks for all the replies guys!
One thing to be noted though: The GPU can be overclocked without overclocking the CPU.
Another thing though, I'm actually not going to return it because I realized that I barely need to play a 20+ hour game on my phone. At home I have a computer (With an i5 2500k and a GTX 560 Ti), Ps3, xbox 360, etc so there's no room for a mobile device in terms of gaming at home, and when I'm out I'm usually at school so I barely game, and when I do, casual games are sufficient for my needs.
Thanks again guys
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Agreed. I've found that I've tried to play more involving games on my phones, but I just have trouble finding a groove. I'd much rather play stuff like NFL flick QB and cut the rope.
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pukemon said:
overstatement, but close. you can do the same with the nexus too.
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Haha to me if you really had the time to pair all that to a phone...you shoulda bought a laptop hahhaha

Galaxy Nexus GPU

Hello Everyone I have a Galaxy Nexus and love it. My only question is how will this GPU hold up in the long run. Right now it does pretty well (not as well as my 4s though) but also can sometimes stutter and lag. It runs nearly every game pretty well. My question is how soon will it be when it will no longer be able to handle higher end games? So I guess the question remains is it worth waiting for tegra 3. I do not need the best graphics ever but do enjoy for the games to run well.

njkeys4 said:
Hello Everyone I have a Galaxy Nexus and love it. My only question is how will this GPU hold up in the long run. Right now it does pretty well (not as well as my 4s though) but also can sometimes stutter and lag. It runs nearly every game pretty well. My question is how soon will it be when it will no longer be able to handle higher end games? So I guess the question remains is it worth waiting for tegra 3. I do not need the best graphics ever but do enjoy for the games to run well.
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Are u on 4.0.2? The stuttering isn't due to the gpu being weak it has to due with the sw. 4.0.3 adds some performance enhancements which will mostly fix the lag and stuttering.

4.0.3 will help stuttering in games?

njkeys4 said:
Hello Everyone I have a Galaxy Nexus and love it. My only question is how will this GPU hold up in the long run. Right now it does pretty well (not as well as my 4s though) but also can sometimes stutter and lag. It runs nearly every game pretty well. My question is how soon will it be when it will no longer be able to handle higher end games? So I guess the question remains is it worth waiting for tegra 3. I do not need the best graphics ever but do enjoy for the games to run well.
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The SGX540 is older, but it is also clocked higher than before and integrated in new ways into the OMAP4460. Now, as a comparison to the 4S? Not even close. Apple went all out, the SGX543 MP2 blows the Nexus' GPU out of the water. Completely. If gaming is your primary focus, it is the wrong phone. That said, I have experienced zero lag in games, and I've tried all the major titles. I haven't modified my phone at all. I think the phone will start to show its age in about a year or so, when the next Nexus device is released. However, the same will happen with the 4S. I don't think it will be the GPU in that device, but rather the RAM, the 3G speeds, etc.
All technology has a short lifespan.
edit: Typos.

njkeys4 said:
4.0.3 will help stuttering in games?
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I'm not sure what game(s) you are trying to play, but so far I've just tried out Sentinel 3 on my Nexus. While I was on 4.0.2, overall system performance seemed to be sluggish. Now that I am on 4.0.3 it's improved. Sentinel 3 was indeed laggy on 4.0.2 yet it's mostly gone now on 4.0.3 The game did perform better on my old phone, but I feel it's just a matter of the developer improving support for this phone's GPU.
As for Tegra 3, the question is.. "when?" Asus & HTC have stated they have new Tegra 3 devices in the works but vague ETA's on them. For all we know it could be like the Bionic and get released many months after they were supposed to be. Only time will tell.

voxigenboy said:
I'm not sure what game(s) you are trying to play, but so far I've just tried out Sentinel 3 on my Nexus. While I was on 4.0.2, overall system performance seemed to be sluggish. Now that I am on 4.0.3 it's improved. Sentinel 3 was indeed laggy on 4.0.2 yet it's mostly gone now on 4.0.3 The game did perform better on my old phone, but I feel it's just a matter of the developer improving support for this phone's GPU.
As for Tegra 3, the question is.. "when?" Asus & HTC have stated they have new Tegra 3 devices in the works but vague ETA's on them. For all we know it could be like the Bionic and get released many months after they were supposed to be. Only time will tell.
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ASUS Transformer Prime is already out in some retailers/etailers, but it is not mainstreamly sold due to demand. My friend got one from Frys the other day. Also, Amazon has started shipping some Transformer Primes to preorderers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230218
Pros: Great screen,fast,light weight,plenty of memory.Newegg has great service. Ordered it 4:00 pm, received it at 10:30 am the next morning
Cons: Not ice cream sandwich
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.. So yeah, they're already being shipped out.

Thanks I am aware of Transformer Prime but I am looking phones. And the main game I noticed lag was GTA III. And if I can get 8 months with it I would be more then happy.

zephiK said:
ASUS Transformer Prime is already out in some retailers/etailers, but it is not mainstreamly sold due to demand. My friend got one from Frys the other day. Also, Amazon has started shipping some Transformer Primes to preorderers.
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I thought the Transformer Prime was a tablet though, not a phone?

voxigenboy said:
I thought the Transformer Prime was a tablet though, not a phone?
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You mentioned ASUS. When it comes to ASUS, first thing I think about is their recognition in tablets. I know they're making a phone but no one really thinks about phones when people say ASUS.
But any regards, gaming on a tablet would probably be more preferable because the screen is so much bigger. At least for me, so you might want to look into that and see if it is something you'd want to invest your money in.

zephiK said:
You mentioned ASUS. When it comes to ASUS, first thing I think about is their recognition in tablets. I know they're making a phone but no one really thinks about phones when people say ASUS.
But any regards, gaming on a tablet would probably be more preferable because the screen is so much bigger. At least for me, so you might want to look into that and see if it is something you'd want to invest your money in.
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oh... me?... well, i was planning on getting a transformer prime myself(eventually). but yeah they have their "padafone" cell phone that's tegra 3 and supposedly coming out 1st q 2012. curious on how that progresses.

that padafone looks very uncompelling with the exception of the tegra 3. Would much rather nexus

I have not seen any games yet that don't perform well.
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same GPU as nexus s, approx 20% higher performance but needs to push 2x as many pixels. Performance (framerate) is notieceably worse than my nexus s. For example, that backbreaker game runs at 60fps on my NS, its prolly around 40ish
Its not a big deal for me since I mostly play simple time waster games on my phone. I ave a PS3 and laptop for when I really want to game.

Honestly, I kind of laugh at the whole Tegra 3 thing. Because I ask myself "why?"
Nvidia is rushing out the door with their quad core (there's even a secret fifth core as well!) Tegra 3 when most of us still remember the Tegra 2 and how crappy it was on that first-generation of Honeycomb tablets.
I owned an original Transformer with the Tegra 2 and couldn't even play 720p videos properly. Of course part of the issue is codecs as well and the Galaxy Nexus as a vanilla Android device isn't great on that front either... still, I can't help but feel Nvidia is rushing forth with this quad-core thing when nobody else is there yet simply because their previous offering was so mediocre.
I mean they had to devise the whole unnecessary "optmized for Tegra" games thing to make it look like the Tegra SoCs are something special when they are at best competitors to other SoCs.

I hope they fix the live wallpaper stutters. It's just ridiculous bad
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Tegra 3 graphics

Hey everyone. I'm a current iphone user and want to switch completely to android. I've messed around a little with it in the past. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the Note 2 can play games in ultra high graphics mode for games like Dead Trigger and Riptide GP. I love this phone but I am an avid mobile gamer and this is a big deal to me. If not is there a way to enable these settings like the Tegra 3 devices have. Thank you!

This phone has a far more capable GPU than the Tegra line, but nVidia money is greener than ours, so developers only enable those graphics on Tegra devices. Chainfire3D may or may not work with the Note II - you should find the thread for it over in Android General and ask.

raduque said:
This phone has a far more capable GPU than the Tegra line, but nVidia money is greener than ours, so developers only enable those graphics on Tegra devices. Chainfire3D may or may not work with the Note II - you should find the thread for it over in Android General and ask.
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Chainfire3D does not work on Jelly Bean.

raduque said:
This phone has a far more capable GPU than the Tegra line, but nVidia money is greener than ours, so developers only enable those graphics on Tegra devices. Chainfire3D may or may not work with the Note II - you should find the thread for it over in Android General and ask.
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I HAVE DEAD TRIGGER i get all the effects that appear on tegra3 gpus

tEcHsAvY said:
Hey everyone. I'm a current iphone user and want to switch completely to android. I've messed around a little with it in the past. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the Note 2 can play games in ultra high graphics mode for games like Dead Trigger and Riptide GP. I love this phone but I am an avid mobile gamer and this is a big deal to me. If not is there a way to enable these settings like the Tegra 3 devices have. Thank you!
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Im a former long term iphone user and im telling you note 2 eats iphone for breakfast and jelly bean is light years ahead of ios

I have Transformer Prime (tegra 3) and Note 2 and for sure the Note 2 is a beast. Games like Dark Knight, Spiderman etc just run a LOT smoother on the Note 2. Is nice to have Tegra 3 for the occasional Tegra only game but i wouldnt sweat it too much.

Does the Note 2 play games at the same level as a Tegra 3 processor phone?

tEcHsAvY said:
Does the Note 2 play games at the same level as a Tegra 3 processor phone?
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Define same level because I just said about it destroys my prime so no sure what you mean. If you mean all the special effects, that is not something we control but Nvidia and the game devs blocking features that the Mali can easily run.
Like there was a hack for Dead Trigger that allowed you turn on all effects before for example.

Yes I was referring to all of the special effects. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I knew about that hack but I wasn't sure if there was a complete solution out for that, like chainfire for example but I know that chainfire doesn't work on jellybean.

Nothing really that I know off and and I never liked Chainfire as it seemed to always messed something up..at least it did for me on Captivate and Note.

tEcHsAvY said:
Hey everyone. I'm a current iphone user and want to switch completely to android. I've messed around a little with it in the past. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the Note 2 can play games in ultra high graphics mode for games like Dead Trigger and Riptide GP. I love this phone but I am an avid mobile gamer and this is a big deal to me. If not is there a way to enable these settings like the Tegra 3 devices have. Thank you!
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If you are an avid mobile gamer are you sure android is the right fit for you? All the games are on iphone and only some make their way to android. If you do want android then get a tegra phone like one x as that will give you better graphics games that are just for nvidia but it's slim pickings so far for amount of nvidia games available.
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When was the last time you checked the market mate?
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I check it daily and yes I like the note 2 big time but all the games come out for iphone first and some like game loft release it for android a week or two later however many other developers never release for android. There are so many games for iphone its not even funny it beats android by miles. I can give you many examples of games on iphone that are not out on android. I hope this changes soon and android is getting better but not close to iphone for games. Android has better productivity and business apps however.
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I got 64GB card of games and my internak memory I almost full and there are still games I cannot fit not to mentio emulators. Your comments sound more like some apple trolling than anythinf else
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Ok sounds good.
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I know with Dead Trigger there is some sort of cfg file you can modify to enable the extra tegra graphic settings.. i cant remember where i read about it though. i think it was in the at&t gs2 forums. If i come across it ill post it up. I know it was a simple fix and im will to bet other game probably have a similar fix.

Buy this, or wait for Tegra 4 Tablet?

Hello,
I was going to buy this tablet soon but I just found out about the Tegra 4 CPU.
It is supposed to have better performance than SnapDragon S4 CPU which the Nexus 7 flo tablet has.
Do you think I should wait until a 7 inch Tegra 4 Tablet comes onto the market or should I buy the Nexus 7 now?
Thanks,
The Doolster

Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.

Do whatever will make you happy. If you're the patient type then just wait.
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Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.
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Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?

RCranium666 said:
Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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Gotta be able to flip those pages faster than you can blink, yo.

Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.

RCranium666 said:
Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
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conan1600 said:
Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.
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I'm thinking that I should just get this tab and be happy with it for a year or more. I mean the most intensive game I play is Riptide GP2, and my Nexus 4 runs that fine on stock with high settings. I will also be doing some emulation on it, but if my Nexus 4 can run it, the Nexus 7 will be able to even better
2.3 GHz is insane for a mobile device that is $230. But since money is pretty tight for me maybe a $230 tablet is probably all I will be able to afford. And about the Kindle Fire, those have always been bad for development and I like to have root and custom roms, and stuff.
So I think this will be the tablet that I'm going to get.
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sonofevil77 said:
I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
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Kindle community's for me is meh. But if nook follows in the steps of kindle well then that could be an inexpensive toy with some real nice specs after root and rom.

Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.

Hello,
the Tegra 4 SoC do not support OpenGL ES 3.0 fully.
If you want to enjoy AAA games or apps in the near future you might not be able to do so.
Also most of the recent Tegra SoC had bad sound quality through headphones and tend to overheat.
Best regards,
pootney

You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android game made today.
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Richieboy67 said:
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android have made today.
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However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.

i use to be all about tegra myself but tegra is not all that good. battery life is horrible and there are heat issues, the htc one x i had got pretty freaking hot. i wanted a tegra 4 tablet like the new toshiba excite but for $480<==F that. i already spent $400 for preordering my ps4 so im not gonna spend that kind of money on a tablet. Nexus 7 is perfect and lightweight. its $270 i can run android games and emulators. with a rooted nexus 7 you can bluetooth a ps3 controller to it for those games and emulators. plus it runs the default android OS which is the best OS out there. The nexus 7 will have a lot more support from devs for kernels, roms, mods, etc...... Seriously buy a nexus 7 and with the money, give it a nice case. kernels for this device can OC the cpu/gpu as well.

icase81 said:
However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.
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Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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Richieboy67 said:
Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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No, I don't THINK that will happen, but let's be honest. 95% of devices won't get KLP anyways. I'm not saying it wont run it, just that the overkill may not be overkill in 5 months. History says otherwise, but look at apple updates. Sometimes the new releases run like crap on older devices.
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icase81 said:
Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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stanglifemike said:
WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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I assure you, I have PLENTY of Tegra device experience. Moto Xoom, LG G2x, Nexus 7, Droid X2, HTC One X+, development in general for all devices. Believe me when I say, nVidia says things work one way, and more often than not, they don't. They require a LOT of extra development workarounds and time to optimize and get them to behave acceptably. I have a feeling that Asus benefited from the Google relationship with the Nexus 7 being a Tegra 3 and applied that knowledge to the rest of their devices. If Asus was willing to spend the time and engineering brains to figure out all those work arounds, kudos to them. Most other manufacturers were not. Even things that are EASY to develop for barely get Android updates, and if theres any sign of it not working right, they just throw in the towel.
The original Nexus 7 worked well, and I'm not saying your Asus tablet doesn't, but the vast majority of nVidia powered devices are not good in the long run.
Check out this article about the history of the way nVidia has dealt with the Tegra chips.
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/02/18/nvidias-telegraphs-tegras-woes-at-ces/
Also, sweet Mustang. I happen to drive a 64 Mercury Comet wagon with a 427FE that runs high 8's. Its a Dyno Don car. I dont own it, just drive it, but its a blast.

stanglifemike said:
WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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Tegra Devices in general are just bleh. Video play back always seems lacking. /shrug
Asus will only update their devices once. maybe twice. That isn't support. They only do that as they have a "Life cycle" of their devices. Once reached. Its end of line.
Best display? Lol you lost me there.

The Tegra 4's CPU is equal or better than the SD 800. The Tegra 4's GPU is also equal or better than the Adreno 330.
For those saying that the battery life is horrible - what are you smoking? One of the things the Tegra 3 was lauded for was battery life. Anandtech recorded 18 HOURS of video playback with the Tegra 4 - not even the iPad could touch that.
IMO, the Tegra 4 is a premium SoC. If you really want the latest and greatest, wait for the Tegra 4. Otherwise, the N7v2 will do just fine.
Don't kid yourselves into thinking the Tegra 4 is horrible though...