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Hello,
I was going to buy this tablet soon but I just found out about the Tegra 4 CPU.
It is supposed to have better performance than SnapDragon S4 CPU which the Nexus 7 flo tablet has.
Do you think I should wait until a 7 inch Tegra 4 Tablet comes onto the market or should I buy the Nexus 7 now?
Thanks,
The Doolster
Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.
Do whatever will make you happy. If you're the patient type then just wait.
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Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.
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Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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Gotta be able to flip those pages faster than you can blink, yo.
Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.
RCranium666 said:
Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
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conan1600 said:
Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.
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I'm thinking that I should just get this tab and be happy with it for a year or more. I mean the most intensive game I play is Riptide GP2, and my Nexus 4 runs that fine on stock with high settings. I will also be doing some emulation on it, but if my Nexus 4 can run it, the Nexus 7 will be able to even better
2.3 GHz is insane for a mobile device that is $230. But since money is pretty tight for me maybe a $230 tablet is probably all I will be able to afford. And about the Kindle Fire, those have always been bad for development and I like to have root and custom roms, and stuff.
So I think this will be the tablet that I'm going to get.
Thanks
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I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
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Kindle community's for me is meh. But if nook follows in the steps of kindle well then that could be an inexpensive toy with some real nice specs after root and rom.
Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
Hello,
the Tegra 4 SoC do not support OpenGL ES 3.0 fully.
If you want to enjoy AAA games or apps in the near future you might not be able to do so.
Also most of the recent Tegra SoC had bad sound quality through headphones and tend to overheat.
Best regards,
pootney
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android game made today.
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Richieboy67 said:
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android have made today.
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However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.
i use to be all about tegra myself but tegra is not all that good. battery life is horrible and there are heat issues, the htc one x i had got pretty freaking hot. i wanted a tegra 4 tablet like the new toshiba excite but for $480<==F that. i already spent $400 for preordering my ps4 so im not gonna spend that kind of money on a tablet. Nexus 7 is perfect and lightweight. its $270 i can run android games and emulators. with a rooted nexus 7 you can bluetooth a ps3 controller to it for those games and emulators. plus it runs the default android OS which is the best OS out there. The nexus 7 will have a lot more support from devs for kernels, roms, mods, etc...... Seriously buy a nexus 7 and with the money, give it a nice case. kernels for this device can OC the cpu/gpu as well.
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However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.
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Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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No, I don't THINK that will happen, but let's be honest. 95% of devices won't get KLP anyways. I'm not saying it wont run it, just that the overkill may not be overkill in 5 months. History says otherwise, but look at apple updates. Sometimes the new releases run like crap on older devices.
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Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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I assure you, I have PLENTY of Tegra device experience. Moto Xoom, LG G2x, Nexus 7, Droid X2, HTC One X+, development in general for all devices. Believe me when I say, nVidia says things work one way, and more often than not, they don't. They require a LOT of extra development workarounds and time to optimize and get them to behave acceptably. I have a feeling that Asus benefited from the Google relationship with the Nexus 7 being a Tegra 3 and applied that knowledge to the rest of their devices. If Asus was willing to spend the time and engineering brains to figure out all those work arounds, kudos to them. Most other manufacturers were not. Even things that are EASY to develop for barely get Android updates, and if theres any sign of it not working right, they just throw in the towel.
The original Nexus 7 worked well, and I'm not saying your Asus tablet doesn't, but the vast majority of nVidia powered devices are not good in the long run.
Check out this article about the history of the way nVidia has dealt with the Tegra chips.
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/02/18/nvidias-telegraphs-tegras-woes-at-ces/
Also, sweet Mustang. I happen to drive a 64 Mercury Comet wagon with a 427FE that runs high 8's. Its a Dyno Don car. I dont own it, just drive it, but its a blast.
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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Tegra Devices in general are just bleh. Video play back always seems lacking. /shrug
Asus will only update their devices once. maybe twice. That isn't support. They only do that as they have a "Life cycle" of their devices. Once reached. Its end of line.
Best display? Lol you lost me there.
The Tegra 4's CPU is equal or better than the SD 800. The Tegra 4's GPU is also equal or better than the Adreno 330.
For those saying that the battery life is horrible - what are you smoking? One of the things the Tegra 3 was lauded for was battery life. Anandtech recorded 18 HOURS of video playback with the Tegra 4 - not even the iPad could touch that.
IMO, the Tegra 4 is a premium SoC. If you really want the latest and greatest, wait for the Tegra 4. Otherwise, the N7v2 will do just fine.
Don't kid yourselves into thinking the Tegra 4 is horrible though...
It looks like NVIDIA is going to release another 8 inch tablet. It will come with a stylus and looks like a spec powerhouse. Thoughts?
http://videocardz.com/51059/nvidia-extends-shield-family-shield-tablet-wireless-controller
Ah but it's not a phone like my GT-N5120.
Galaxy Note 8.0 Xposed Build N5120XXDNE4 / Baseband N5120XXCMG7 / Kernel SphereKat-Rev5.1 on Telstra LTE
Your comparing apples to oranges.
The Samsung Note 8.0 was not specifically built for gamers in mind. The Shield is very nice, and looks to be great for gamers. Though in everyday use I am sure the battery will not last as long, as most gaming devices are battery drainers.
If I were to get a gamers delight tablet. That would be on my list.
As for your question... the Note 8.0 is discontinued and nobody is going to look for a new one on ebay when you have a good selection of newer products.
I got the Note 8.0 as it fits my needs... at the time very few 8.0 tablets had the capabilities. Plus even though the screen is 800x1200 at 180dpi its clarity and color is as good as higher rated screens on other devices.
As my signature shows, the Note 8.0 abilities still provide well (did not include it is 128GB SD compatible), even if others may have higher specs, very few will see improvement unless it is games.
Most gamers have sony hand held consoles. I can't say I would want a tablet as handheld gaming console, they seem so limited to just Android only, unless you hack or pirate games.
Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?
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The tab s will get you 8 hours of on screen time. No lag during gameplay but only at loading screens idk about note pro.
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Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?
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i have just yesterday went to a seller, whose add for Pro 12.2 i saw yesterday. i checked the tab, and i was no convinced! its TOO big! its like those old laptops with huge screens. it FEELS quite heavy and makes it more usable for showing stuff to others, like more than 3 people. i mean that about screen size. its too bright, for night use as well. it would kinda lite up the room ur in at night. almost IMPOSSIBLE for one hand use and its thicker than Tab S. for comparison, LTE Pro 12.2 is 753Grams whereas, LTE Tab S 10.5 467Grams. its 268Gb lighter, the Tab S! also noticeably thinner at 6.6mm where Pro 12.2 is 8mm thick.
and honestly if u need it for school, the thinner and lighter it is the better. i would suggest Tab S 10.5 any day.
Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?
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Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?
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it should be Snapdragon cause of better development from devs and better optimization.
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Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?
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Have you considered the Nvidia shield? It's 8 inches but graphics performance is excellent and it got updated to Lolipop. For 10 inch tablets IMO the Samsung is the best out there.
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Have you considered the Nvidia shield? It's 8 inches but graphics performance is excellent and it got updated to Lolipop. For 10 inch tablets IMO the Samsung is the best out there.
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Yes I have, but Ive seen bad reviews about the Nvidia Shield display, I knkw that the speaker ans internals are better! But I need it for school and Im a casual gamer, I play games like PvZ, Real Racing, Clash of Clans, Dead Trigger 2... I wont use nvidias streaming service, I just want a tablet for school that allows me to play those games smoothly with a decent camera.
dude , buy a nexus 9
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Yes I have, but Ive seen bad reviews about the Nvidia Shield display, I knkw that the speaker ans internals are better! But I need it for school and Im a casual gamer, I play games like PvZ, Real Racing, Clash of Clans, Dead Trigger 2... I wont use nvidias streaming service, I just want a tablet for school that allows me to play those games smoothly with a decent camera.
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See here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8670/google-nexus-9-preliminary-findings/3
Although I am not sure which version of Galaxy tab/Pro is reflected in the benchmarks.
And with regards to cameras on tablets, I advise you to forget about it. Even Phones dedicated to "Photography" give very poor results.
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dude , buy a nexus 9
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I'm not sure, I have a Nexus 5 already and.. I've heard bad reviews about Nexus 9 everywhere!
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See here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8670/google-nexus-9-preliminary-findings/3
Although I am not sure which version of Galaxy tab/Pro is reflected in the benchmarks.
And with regards to cameras on tablets, I advise you to forget about it. Even Phones dedicated to "Photography" give very poor results.
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Yeah, I just don't want it to be way too crappy like the Nvidia Shield camera.
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dude , buy a nexus 9
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Dont get the Nexus 9 yet, I exchange mine for the tab s 10.5 since Best Buy has the holiday sale for $399 but so far many apps arent optimized for the Nexus 9. I played some games on this tablet. its a bit laggy only on asphalt 8 but everything else is buttery smooth. I suggest put google launcher and google keyboard, it becomes a Nexus device in no time. It has a few updates that has stability issues so everything is good so far. Just hope Samsung does update it to lollipop. Samsung has a bad track record in updating tablets very late.
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Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?
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I have used the entire of the 2014 galaxy tab and note tablet line. The note 12.2 is an enormous device. As someone stated earlier, it is like having a laptop with you. IMO if you like a 10" tablet, and don't mind the functionality of an S-pen, the Galaxy Note 10.1" (2014 edition) is very close in hardware specifications, to the Galaxy Tab S 10.5.
The Note is 299 ppi vs 288 ppi on the Tab S. Battery for the Note is 8220mAh where the Tab is 7990mAh. They both have the exact same camera, 8pm, with a 2mp front camera. Wifi, Bluetooth and USB are all exactly the same. Dual band AC wifi, Bluetooth 4.0 and USB 2.0.
The Note however is a Snapdragon processor, meaning if you wanted to root or install a customer rom, there is a greater chance of developer support over the Tab S.
I hope this helps. Anymore questions, just shoot me a message.
Looking to get my son a used Android tablet off swappa for gaming and entertainment. Is this tablet still up to par for running the latest games without lag? He plays a lot of Pixel Gun 3D and Jurassic World at the moment. Thanks for any advice. Trying to keep my kids from stealing my NVidia Sheild K1...
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Looking to get my son a used Android tablet off swappa for gaming and entertainment. Is this tablet still up to par for running the latest games without lag? He plays a lot of Pixel Gun 3D and Jurassic World at the moment. Thanks for any advice. Trying to keep my kids from stealing my NVidia Sheild K1...
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I would recommend the LG GPAD 3 or GPAD X. Better specs and display. It will be better for gaming. No root or even unlocked bootloader though. I returned this tablet. It's a bit laggy and display is pretty low quality.
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it is still good for games i play every new game no lag on custom rom ,needed new battery i would invest so much in another tablet just for games unless it`s ipad in fall
unless u have money for a 3gb ram tablet like samsung tab S3 ,your limitations will be the ram these days the games takes a lot of ram it`s 64bit cpu though besides that play store from 2018 will be 64 bit apps exclusive like ios so need minimum 3gb ram in future good luck
And I mean games like Duke Nukem 3d smoothly. I have an S7, and the only reasons I would update are the 120hz screen, the bigger screen, and being able to play games like this smoothly. With the S7, the FPS become unplayable in some places, while decent in others, it's not responsive enough overall.
There is a port but it sucks, I want to play from dosbox. Anyone by any chance has tried it?
Also, on paper, is the S22 much more powerful compared to S7 to assume it will work?
Idk but it lagged hard for me with most games. Here you can see s10e snapdragon 60fps stable, no lag. S22 exynos 35-45 fps unstable af lagging hard on modern ops 2. Also see CPU and Temperature. I'm back to the s10e !
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Idk but it lagged hard for me with most games. Here you can see s10e snapdragon 60fps stable, no lag. S22 exynos 35-45 fps unstable af lagging hard on modern ops 2. Also see CPU and Temperature. I'm back to the s10e !
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Wow, so modern phones are worse? amazing.
It absolutely blew my mind as well. Going back to the older phone got me even hyped to see everything back working smooth n properly. the s22 seemed totally an experimental device. Not a DD as of now.
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It absolutely blew my mind as well. Going back to the older phone got me even hyped to see everything back working smooth n properly. the s22 seemed totally an experimental device. Not a DD as of now.
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I don't game but compared to the dual drive Note 10+ the S22U is a downgrade.
1tb max of overpriced unexpandable storage... the S22U might as well be an iPhone. Android 11/12 were the last straw, dead camel.
Feel the wuv, Sammy... $0.00
As far AS I know, all emulation needs optimization to a specific hardware. Maybe dosbox has to do some code to run well on Exynos 2200 and SD 8 gen 1
Something seems to be busted, at least on Exynos units but I wouldn't be surprised if Snapdragon ones are affected too. But my guess is that this is softare-related.
For example, in SEGA Genesis emulation, games which can be run fine even on low-end chips stutter while the game is in focus. But if you touch the screen or make the status bar/navigation appear, the performance becomes as phenomenal as it should be.
If it's a game that isn't being emulated, though, like Dead Cells, there's no lag.