Just wanna get other people's views on Art or dalvik depending on what they are using. I recently switched to ART to give it a try and possibly compare.
What's everyone else using
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I switched to ART last night and S-Health kept crashing after boot up. Went back to DALVIK and the issue went away
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i didnt notice much different in performance with ART compared to DALVIK. the bootup time is very slow but outside of that, performance was nothing noticeable. Maybe it'll be different with lollipop
I noticed that there is more ram space running art than dalvik not that it matters with the power this phone has...and my s health app crashes also....I guess I just found out why. I also noticed that every time I reboot it loads the upgrading apps screen and takes a little bit to upgrade and at that time my phone gets really hot. I think I'm gonna switch back to dalvik.
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I switched to ART and S-Health as well as Pandora both kept force closing. Switched back to DALVIK and everything is good now.
I use dalvik, as I have a few apps that don't work on ART. One of the reasons I hope v5.0 holds of a month or two - to give apps a chance to catch up.
Once 5.0 comes out, it will be forced on us, thus breaking some apps I need. So I'm in no hurry.
I used art for about a week and it runs a little snappier to me. No lag hitting recent apps was the most noticeable difference. I don't reset often but I switched back to dalvic when I realized private mode no longer worked.
If long boot times is ok with you for slightly better response times then ART.
First reboot will take a long time second reboots still take a while about 50-60 apps need to optimize vs 300+ first time.
Long boot times 50-60 apps that always require optimization are most likely Samsung bloatware and touchwiz elements.
Otherwise stick with dalvik. (not very noticeable except maybe some breaking of apps and touchwiz interface)
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I switched to ART last night and S-Health kept crashing after boot up. Went back to DALVIK and the issue went away
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Uninstall the S-Health update. Runs great after that. I even updated it recently after and all is working well
I realize that most people who come here are tech savvy, but I feel that I must at least slightly defend ART from the internet rumors, and misinformation that can kill the most beautiful things...
The upgrading apps on every boot up will not happen when ART is the default runtime in 5.0
I tried using ART, and I liked it, but I could not handle the reboot time. Once it is the law of the land, the reboot issues will be gone and I will be pleased to welcome ART to my phone.
I enjoyed ART. I know it's still buggy but I liked it except for my phone getting extremely hot while upgrading the apps but I'm sure that will.go away with 5.0 too.
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This was the first phone where I felt ART did not improve the performance of the phone. And with the long reboot times I had to switch back. Of the 5 phones I have run ART on this is the only one that complied the apps on every boot.
There are some that say their regents lag went away but I feel it made zero difference. It was faster upon first boot but quickly degraded back to the 1-2 second lag.
I look forward to our update to see if that last goes away and to see if the new TW is a little smoother.
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I've experienced this issue twice now wherein my phone would get extremely slow and laggy to the point that it's unbearable to use anymore and the only solution was a reboot. Launcher keeps on restarting, messaging app takes 5 seconds to open, camera is lagging etc and this is after a week of uptime at least.
Why does this happen in the first place and am I the only one experiencing this? I've been running only maguro milestone 5 and franco for the past month, no other roms whatsoever. Once I power down and reboot everything becomes nice and fast again.
Never happened to me on stock.
I'd say it's "normal" for a phone to slow down over time as you add apps and things, but it should never slow down to a crawl and start crashing until you reboot.
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I've experienced this issue twice now wherein my phone would get extremely slow and laggy to the point that it's unbearable to use anymore and the only solution was a reboot. Launcher keeps on restarting, messaging app takes 5 seconds to open, camera is lagging etc and this is after a week of uptime at least.
Why does this happen in the first place and am I the only one experiencing this? I've been running only maguro milestone 5 and franco for the past month, no other roms whatsoever. Once I power down and reboot everything becomes nice and fast again.
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normal for it to slow down a bit but not like how you described it. i'm running stock though.
It's not normal. Install some monitoring tool like "OS Monitor" and run it when the problem happens to find out the culprit.
Oh and installing multiple apps will not slow down the phone. This is not Windows 95.
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zapek666 said:
It's not normal. Install some monitoring tool like "OS Monitor" and run it when the problem happens to find out the culprit.
Oh and installing multiple apps will not slow down the phone. This is not Windows 95.
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lol at the windows 95 comment
although the # of apps you have alone shouldnt slow your phone down, if you have a ton of apps running in the background eating up ram it may slow down if the available free ram you have is really really low
when your phone is laggy check the ram first
Thanks guys I'll try OS monitor to see what's running. It just happened again right now and this is getting annoying, even typing is laggy but after a reboot everything is normal again.
Kill background apps.
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So far I have not had that issue. Probably like everyone else said. There is some run away app that's eating up your memory
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Its not normal, but aokp does have a bug. Check your system process in system panel, it grows larger over time if you use lock screen options etc.
Now that ics has been out for a while, is it a good idea to have this on?
It does make the phone faster and only affects two of my apps but i still dont know how does it affect battery or RAM(i read somewhere it affects ram)
Do you guys use it?
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It's useful for scrolling in 2d apps. Although on xda makes the pictures not come up. I only use every once in a while.
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I've chosen to not use it. It was useful in the early days when not a lot of apps worked well on ICS, but nowadays it breaks more than it fixes in my experiences.
I don't use it. I find it makes many apps laggy. Though it does boost a quadrant score.
In theory, it would be better to the let the GPU render stuff as it takes the strain off the CPU. Too bad it breaks many apps, though.
nope dont use it. does more problems than good
I use it, never encountered any of this, EXCEPT for a GUI glitch in Power amp. Besides that, every works perfectly.
On side note, back when the Samsung Vibrant first got ICS (somewhere around December), I found that many apps just crashed when using it, such as trying to pick out a wallpaper in GO SMS. Nowadays, nothing besides that Power amp glitch I've noticed. And battery life is somewhat better too.
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The United Airlines app used to have problems when this was on -- would show up as an incredibly tiny rectangle on the screen, as if scaling was totally thrown off. I was flying a lot then, so I unchecked the option. The United app has been updated a few times in the past few months, and I tried checking force GPU, and the latest version of the United app works again... I've got 104 apps installed, and the only other one I've seen that complains is Flipboard -- got a message once, yesterday, that it's not designed to work with forced GPU and that I should turn it off. I ignored the message, though, and Flipboard seems fine -- as does everything else I'm using.
I'll leave it turned on until / unless I run into incompatibilities with apps that I find important...
After switching to ART on my stock M8 it got extremely laggy at times and froze up to a minute at a time. The phone would also get hot. After switching back to Dalvik everything was fast again. Anyone notice this?
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After switching to ART on my stock M8 it got extremely laggy at times and froze up to a minute at a time. The phone would also get hot. After switching back to Dalvik everything was fast again. Anyone notice this?
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You have to remember ART is still developmental. Also you need to say whether you are on Sense or GPE as there are issues with sense.
Also there are a number of apps that still aren't working with ART.
There are some roms that include it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694917
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After switching to ART on my stock M8 it got extremely laggy at times and froze up to a minute at a time. The phone would also get hot. After switching back to Dalvik everything was fast again. Anyone notice this?
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I think your issue is that the phone was throttling due to the heat. Because it probably ran at maximum CPU speeds to optimise the apps for ART, this would have cause the phone to get hot and to feel the need to throttle. Give it some time to cool down and to settle then see if it still feels laggy
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You have to remember ART is still developmental. Also you need to say whether you are on Sense or GPE as there are issues with sense.
Also there are a number of apps that still aren't working with ART.
There are some roms that include it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694917
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Sense on Verizon.
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I think your issue is that the phone was throttling due to the heat. Because it probably ran at maximum CPU speeds to optimise the apps for ART, this would have cause the phone to get hot and to feel the need to throttle. Give it some time to cool down and to settle then see if it still feels laggy
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That problem should only last a few minutes or so. This has been happening for 2 weeks until I changed back this morning.
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That problem should only last a few minutes or so. This has been happening for 2 weeks until I changed back this morning.
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Have a look on here, are any of the apps that are supposedly broken running in the background?
I am not sure when this list was last updated as some of them worked when I used art last time although some of them were definitely broken.
http://www.androidruntime.com/list
as mentioned here
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-4-kitkats-art-and-app-compatibility/
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Have alook on here, are any of the apps that are supposedly broken running in the background?
I am not sure when this list was last updated as some of them worked when I used art last time although some of them were definitley broken.
http://www.androidruntime.com/list
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-4-kitkats-art-and-app-compatibility/
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Didn't see any of my apps that weren't working. I've hard restarted and used only a few essential apps (Yahoo Mail, Hangouts, Snapchat) which are all working on ART and the problem still occurred.
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So up until about a month ago my tab s was fine, I was running stock lollipop but was rooted at this time. Then I started having some weird issues where it would hang while surfing on chrome, buttons would be unresponsive, couldn't scroll. The battery level started going a bit crazy, dropping quick. Then when rebooted it would jump up 20%. Also, when I'd reboot usually it would be better for awhile with no freezing.
When it continued to happen I started thinking something became corrupt in the OS. So I updated to Schizu's version of MM. That ran really well and I really liked it but then I noticed the battery drain issue that seems to plague that build. I could only get maybe 2 hours of battery of of a charge. Also it would get quite warm, I'm pretty sure I had the tablet shut down on me once or twice when the overheating was reported. Tried undercoating the cpu, didn't seem to help me.
Then came out the official MM build so I switched to that. Now I'm seeing battery drain and overheating. It will warn me it shut down a few apps and then a minute later it will just turn off.
At this point I'm starting to think the tablet is shot. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Mark
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Did you flash a rom that`s alters the cpu frequency like overclocking, Maybe when you flashed a stock rom it did not overwrite the overclocking, I am an rom newbie myself, you need to speak to those with more knowledge.
But it looks like your battery has gone bad and need replacing.
Sort the overheating first as a bad rom can affect the battery as well, though the battery is most likely on it`s last legs.
John.
reinstall MM but before that wipe data , cache and dalvik and use odin to reinstall marsmallow
My problem with overhearing is the Google Chrome app update. That's correct, Chrome! If I update the Chrome app that that is included with marshmallow, then my Tab S starts overheating and eating up lots of battery juice. It's due to some mediaserver service constantly running in the later versions of Chrome which causes the processor load to go way up even when I've left Chrome. If I open the recent apps and just swipe the Chrome app away, the processor load returns to normal. So, you could uninstall the Chrome updates and stop Chrome from auto updating in the Play Store since from my testing the version delivered with marshmallow doesn't have this problem.
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My problem with overhearing is the Google Chrome app update. That's correct, Chrome! If I update the Chrome app that that is included with marshmallow, then my Tab S starts overheating and eating up lots of battery juice. It's due to some mediaserver service constantly running in the later versions of Chrome which causes the processor load to go way up even when I've left Chrome. If I open the recent apps and just swipe the Chrome app away, the processor load returns to normal. So, you could uninstall the Chrome updates and stop Chrome from auto updating in the Play Store since from my testing the version delivered with marshmallow doesn't have this problem.
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I just disabled Chrome with Package Disabler Pro. I hate that browser...it's a pest Hope that stops that Media apk too, though I did not disable it. I don't know what it's purpose is.
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I just disabled Chrome with Package Disabler Pro. I hate that browser...it's a pest Hope that stops that Media apk too, though I did not disable it. I don't know what it's purpose is.
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That's a great idea for testing. What browser do you like if I can ask?
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That's a great idea for testing. What browser do you like if I can ask?
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Since I have owned this tablet my one biggest gripe has been web browsers! I have tried just about all the popular ones and not one of them acts right on FB (the FB app just sux). The best I have found is Lightening Browser. Not perfect, but heads above the rest IMHO. Works better than IE does on my PC! Big thing with it though seems to be (A) keeping the cache clear and (B) posting a comment on FB. Type one word and then a space and the OSK closes and the cursor jumps out of the text box. Then you have to tap it to continue and don't bother trying to use suggested words.
Dolphin is absolutely the worst
Boat Browser for Tablet needs an overhaul for MM at least with the SM-T800 it will totally lock up the tablet when browsing long lists of items like a search for an item on ebay.
DaWeav said:
My problem with overhearing is the Google Chrome app update. That's correct, Chrome! If I update the Chrome app that that is included with marshmallow, then my Tab S starts overheating and eating up lots of battery juice. It's due to some mediaserver service constantly running in the later versions of Chrome which causes the processor load to go way up even when I've left Chrome. If I open the recent apps and just swipe the Chrome app away, the processor load returns to normal. So, you could uninstall the Chrome updates and stop Chrome from auto updating in the Play Store since from my testing the version delivered with marshmallow doesn't have this problem.
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Well, it seems the latest update (54) to the Chrome app is no longer doing this on my Tab S. Getting good battery life now, especially with using the Reading Mode setting on my most used apps.
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I completely wiped like mentioned above and reinstalled. Did not update Chrome and have been good. Battery life isn't as good as I'd like but it's acceptable. I guess I'll allow Chrome to update and see what happens now.
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I completely wiped like mentioned above and reinstalled. Did not update Chrome and have been good. Battery life isn't as good as I'd like but it's acceptable. I guess I'll allow Chrome to update and see what happens now.
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I would dismantle the toy and check the battery connections. My 2 cents.
Thanks, good thinking
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Rooted, custom ROM (Freedom OS) and custom kernel (ElementalX) but this was happening before the installation of Freedom OS.
Everything will be amazing and fast then when I use the phone after it's been asleep for a while it's really slow.
Tried resetting which initially works but slows right down again after a wake-up. Also tried wiping cache and davlik via TWRP but again, after initially working, soon slows down.
Short of keeping my phone's screen on 24/7 and having it running like that I don't know what to do.
Any suggestions?
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Rooted, custom ROM (Freedom OS) and custom kernel (ElementalX) but this was happening before the installation of Freedom OS.
Everything will be amazing and fast then when I use the phone after it's been asleep for a while it's really slow.
Tried resetting which initially works but slows right down again after a wake-up. Also tried wiping cache and davlik via TWRP but again, after initially working, soon slows down.
Short of keeping my phone's screen on 24/7 and having it running like that I don't know what to do.
Any suggestions?
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Can you explain what kind of slowness or lag?
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Prattham said:
Can you explain what kind of slowness or lag?
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Sure.
Lag as in open an app and it'll take a few seconds and stutter. Slow as in like an old phone opening apps and such. Before the slowdown it'll be fast and buttery smooth but after waking the phone from sleep it's painfully slow until I perform a cache wipe and restart. Then the same happens again.