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Rooted or Not Rooted

Rooter or not rooter
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Rooted is better if you know how to use a rooted phone. If he has no idea than he may just mess his phone up.
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if he doesnt want to root.. then let him be, he'll just be missing out.

I rooted to get the latest firmware [in canada it goes through samsung womp-womp ] and to get some extra customization out of my phone. It can give a phone the extra features you might feel are missing.

I always root my androids except my nexus's I rarely root them and as of now haven't my gnex

zephiK said:
if he doesnt want to root.. then let him be, he'll just be missing out.
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This! If he sees the pros + cons then decides he doesn't want it, then he shouldn't. You're a bad friend if you force him to do something he's not comfortable with to his phone.
AndreaCristiano said:
I always root my androids except my nexus's I rarely root them and as of now haven't my gnex
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Same. Loving my GNex bone stock.

lazcoreaedu said:
Hey guys I'm trying to convince my buddy that root is the way to go, I myself have my phone rooted and wouldn't go back to stock for any reasons, I've told him why he should go with root but he just wants some more opinions, so please can you give us your 2 cent on what's better rooted or not rooted?
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Regardless of whether he ultimately wants to root or not - make sure that even if it's remotely on the radar that he unlocks the BOOTLOADER as soon as he gets the phone.
Unlocking the bootloader wipes the ENTIRE phone (SD card partition and all) so it's something to do before anything else.
With the ability to subsequently make backups, rooting can easily come later.

It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.

Valynor said:
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
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I was going to say the same.
If he doesn't want/know then he SHOULDN'T cause he could end up with a bricked phone.

There's absolutely no reason to try to convince your friend, you're doing a disservice.
Murphy's law says he'll end up bricking it.
Unless you enjoy modding and willing to take the risk, let them use it stock - it's far more stable anyway.

Valynor said:
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
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My thoughts exactly!

If your friend doesn't want it, he didn't need it. Eot.
And since you seem confused and mixing terms.... You can still be on stock while rooted.
You can even run a custom firmware without being rooted/having root.
Rooted merely means having local admin rights on the OS you are currently running. Custom firmware or not us entirely unrelated.
On most Samsung phones you don't even need to root to load custom ROMs, because they have open bootloaders. They're is no real relation between these terms which you are mixing.
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You can root the factory image so he'll still be stock with root. It'd best to root in case he wants future access for whatever, for example titanium backup would let him backup all his data, needs root. There are a milkion reasons to need root for very basic things.

Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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RogerPodacter said:
You can root the factory image so he'll still be stock with root. It'd best to root in case he wants future access for whatever, for example titanium backup would let him backup all his data, needs root. There are a milkion reasons to need root for very basic things.
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But if the guy doesn't want to use any of those things, there's no need to root it in the first place. If he doesn't see the value in it right now theres no need to force him into it. Rooting because you think he'll want it later in the future makes no sense.
ChongoDroid said:
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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What a stupid suggestion.

ChongoDroid said:
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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this was my thought too!

At least let him figure out how to do it himself. If he figures it out. It might be for him. Let him do it via fast boot commands. Not one click.
I remember fist time rooting. I only had to press "root" in an app, and I ended up messing my sgs i9000 up completely. I had to learn everything the hard way. The right way. You should never do anything to your phone, unless you know how to get back to where you were.

Should I root?

Hi guys,
I have samsung note 2 N7100
Android version 4.1.2
I am just looking around and I see loads of stuff about rooting, I came from Apple iPhones coz they are **** now lol and i have jailbroken all my devices. Had my note 2 for few months now but I am worried if i root it I will loose my warranty and might mess up my phone....
I seen the tutorials and it looks really easy but lets say down the line I want to un-root my device, could I leave no trace of the device being rooted?
I had to replace my old note 2 and it was rooted i managed to un root it but the benefit was that I work in the phone shop and I replaced it.
SHOULD I ROOT THE DEVICE?
WHAT BENEFITS WILL I GET?
Cheers guy
p.s. love the community here!

Hi,
Even without root, the Note 2 is still beast.
But with all these customizations, tweaks, improvement going on in the development threads, it's a GO.
Plus, you can unroot easily anytime you have a computer.
Cheers!

First of all! Welcome to the family
Well here's what! Rooting your device is basically allowing your phone to run apps and do special operations that it cannot normally do and also flash custom roms. If anyone else can help with a reply that will be awesome. Just go through the step by step process in either this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696 or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923956.
For more understanding, watch videos on youtube on the terms: rooting, custom Rom and custom recovery. If anyone can help it would be appreciated!
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here is a good tutorial to root without changing your counter ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930418

Don't be a puss and root. May the force be with u....
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You have nothing to loose but more to gain

Well it's upto you. You'd get a HELL lot more of options with a rooted devices than unrooted. Personally, I find absolutely no reason not to root, and it would be such a waste to not unlock the full potential of this beast. It's an awesome device as it is, but it's even awesome-er when your root

If u rooted the phone or not .. u will never use ur warranty ...
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device : note2
ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP

It's easy to remove all evidence of rooting if you ever need to. Still I don't think you should rush into it if your uncertain. There are benefits I've gained from rooting though nothing I couldn't live without. To some extent I've been rooting for so long it's just a habit now, I'm just used to having it, but even if I didn't have it on this phone I'd be happy with it.
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LukeC88 said:
Hi guys,
SHOULD I ROOT THE DEVICE?
WHAT BENEFITS WILL I GET?
Cheers guy
p.s. love the community here!
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If you know valid reason to root your device then root it, don't rush for fun or experiments. when you find some stuffs needs root that is must for you then go and root, but read couple of times before it.
dirtydeangelo said:
If u rooted the phone or not .. u will never use ur warranty ...
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I don't getting you. If you saying rooting voids warranty then
This is purely misguiding statement
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?

dr.ketan said:
If you know valid reason to root your device then root it, don't rush for fun or experiments. when you find some stuffs needs root that is must for you then go and root, but read couple of times before it.
I don't getting you. If you saying rooting voids warranty then
This is purely misguiding statement
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?
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Nothing is wrong ... from my experience with phones I had never use the warranty
At all
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device : note2
ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP

dirtydeangelo said:
Nothing is wrong ... from my experience with phones I had never use the warranty
At all
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device : note2
ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP
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Me neither. However it's a fact that a small number of units shipped will develop a fault. If you're going to put big money into a phone line the Note 2 then it's not unnatural to want assurance that you are going to have protection if you are one of the unlucky ones.
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dr.ketan said:
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?
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Warranty is always a question of time.
The advantage of rooting is difficult to explain to everyone who is doubting about that.
For me rooting is something that should not be necessary.
There are many users that will never use root access even when it is available.
But there are thoughts that root access will lead to problems or misuse.
For me root access is usefull in some cases. For example to install Whatsapp on tablets with wifi-only.

Not a question of advantages and disadvantages of Root OR how it is helpful
I mean to say You can claim warranty even you have device rooted with flash counter 0.

2 main reasons for me :
- Blocking ads
- backing up my entire phone.
You can't do that without root.
Now that my phone is rooted i've done other changes like installing the aosp camera to use photosphere and CWM to backup and install zip easier.
But I keep stock rom with stock kernel, with this phone there is no need to change it to my mind.

With root you can put any tiers application in the multi windows right?
You can also disable bloatware or freeze them with greenify.
The only thing is missing with is the undervolt settings. That's why I'm already in custom kernel/ROM.
But when 4.2.2 goes out I'll certainly go back stock ROM which i hope, will increase battery life.
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dr.ketan said:
Not a question of advantages and disadvantages of Root OR how it is helpful
I mean to say You can claim warranty even you have device rooted with flash counter 0.
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Not in the good ole United States of America (but there is more too this?)
If you purchase a Samsung Galaxy Note II (or any other phone) from a Authorized Dealer, it comes with one year warranty and guarteneed warranty per terms of that dealers contract. If you unlock/root/flash, whatever, you break that contract because of something YOU did, not the Authorized Dealer, therefore, they are not responsible for it, YOU are.
Now, as someone that has unlocked/rooted/flashed MANY phones over the years, every set of instructions I have every read.....1. Explains the above first. 2. Immediately explains to read ALL the instructions first and understand them before you attempt anything. 3. Explains THEY are not responsible if you brick your phone. 4. They always give detailed instructions (or link to them) a. How to put it back to stock and b. Lastly, DO NOT TAKE PHONE BACK TO DEALER ROOTED!!!
Now, with that said, I (we) in America have T.E.P. (Total Equiptment Protection) that I pay $11.00USD a month. This insurance is in case I lose my phone, its stolen, I drop in bathtub, run over with car.............I pay a deductible ($150.00USD I think) and they give me a new phone.
Now, these are two different things. During the initial warranty period, If I have SDS, I take it back to Authorized Dealer, fix my s**t! After Warranty, period, I send it back to insurance company, pay deductible, and either they send you a new one OR send you a agreed upon compatable device!
Cheers!!!

For me rooting was a must for directory bind. As has been said blocking ads is essential greenify good and the increase Volume mod was also a god send.
However on the downside I've lost sky go.

I rooted my Samsung day 2 and wouldn't turn back. Iv undervolted getting 2 days out of my battery. Root is awesome.
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Can I root and keep everything stock and get ota updates? That would be perfect because I really dislike custom roms. I've got the 4G version.

will my phone be locked again if i update to 4.3?

To make this short, the guy that unlocked my phone said he cant unlock it because it has android 4.3 so he asked me if its ok to downgrade it, i said yes. My question is, will my phone be locked again if i upgrade it to 4.3? I forgot to ask him.
I dont want to risk updating it because i paid $20.
Also, he rooted my phone (i didnt know he was gonna do it but i dont mind), if it matters.

zynx said:
To make this short, the guy that unlocked my phone said he cant unlock it because it has android 4.3 so he asked me if its ok to downgrade it, i said yes. My question is, will my phone be locked again if i upgrade it to 4.3? I forgot to ask him.
I dont want to risk updating it because i paid $20.
Also, he rooted my phone (i didnt know he was gonna do it but i dont mind), if it matters.
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I dont understand why you paying anyone when you can root your phone from many guides over here and all over the internet its pretty easy.
If you want to install stock without thinking search xda for stock 4.3 install that rom it wont unroot your phone so nothing to worry about if you want the stock rom.
Else i will suggest to explore more great roms out there.
I am trying out SlimBeans these days

Nuke_- said:
I dont understand why you paying anyone when you can root your phone from many guides over here and all over the internet its pretty easy.
If you want to install stock without thinking search xda for stock 4.3 install that rom it wont unroot your phone so nothing to worry about if you want the stock rom.
Else i will suggest to explore more great roms out there.
I am trying out SlimBeans these days
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I didnt pay anyone to root my phone. I paid a guy to UNLOCK it ( so i can use other sim cards other than the one my phone was locked in)

zynx said:
I didnt pay anyone to root my phone. I paid a guy to UNLOCK it ( so i can use other sim cards other than the one my phone was locked in)
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of you mean country lock yeah you are fine update to anything it shouldn't affect that

Unrooting help!!!!

Ok where do I start, oh yeah here; I've been wanting to unroot my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 for the longest, but I never knew how. Main reason why? Because I want to get my phone fixed from AT&T, but as we all know, this will "void" the warranty. Anyways, my goal really is to simply just get rid of the modified status thing in the setting so they can't see it has been rooted. So on one glorious day, I decided to listen to little brother (which I never do) and he told me to go into SuperSU and press unroot or something like that, to "unroot" your phone because "he did it" and it "worked". Now it kind of made since when he told me to do that, though something told me it wouldnt be that simple just to press unroot and it does all the magic for you. So now im in a pickle. When I did that, it uninstalled SuperSU in a since, and now when I downloaded it back from the play store, it says every time,"there is no su binary installed and supersu cannot install it unroot". From what I have been reading, this is a huge problem when it comes to using Triangle away, which I need to reset this modified thingy in the settings. Also, I download a root checker app or whatever its called, and it says I don't have root access. AHHHHH!!!!! Can SOMEBODY, ANYBODY help me?! Im a noob to this Android stuff (Been #TeamiOS 4 years straight). So please speak english when explaining what to do. Oh and please be VERY detailed because I never wanted to touch another rooted device in my life after I bricked my kindle fire a few years ago.... Thanks!

Start here might help you issue..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41340941
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When you modify your phone you void your warranty.

Search the skynote thread use 1click to get back to stock then triangle away to reset counter
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Bajanman said:
Start here might help you issue..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41340941
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THANKS MAN!!!!! IT WORKED!!!!! Real lifesaver! Thank you again!

Root for lg metropcs k10 (ms428)

Is there any working and safe root for ms428 (k10 metrocps variant)?
I have been looking everywhere. Tried kingoroot but still no go.
I am starting to get frustrated

I'm giving one more week then exchanging it. I too am surprised there's no root method out yet. I bricked and exchanged a device already. No success trying to recover the device either using the Spanish screenshot disaster explanation which doesn't work.

infamousvincci said:
Is there any working and safe root for ms428 (k10 metrocps variant)?
I have been looking everywhere. Tried kingoroot but still no go.
I am starting to get frustrated
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strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10

AngryUserLG said:
strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10
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Yeah im thnking of returning it to metropcs too.
No root means no happiness haha.
What unit can we get tho if we return it? Anything thats close to this k10?

infamousvincci said:
Yeah im thnking of returning it to metropcs too.
No root means no happiness haha.
What unit can we get tho if we return it? Anything thats close to this k10?
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I would say LG Stylo is closest but the camera isn't as good. Lens and size is nice but hardware processing is crap, but seems like every store has been on back order for them and with Stylo 2 out it's probably going to be shelved soon. I have faith in King root for solid success with k10 soon though.

AngryUserLG said:
strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10
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DBoyFloyd said:
I would say LG Stylo is closest but the camera isn't as good. Lens and size is nice but hardware processing is crap, but seems like every store has been on back order for them and with Stylo 2 out it's probably going to be shelved soon. I have faith in King root for solid success with k10 soon though.
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We cant even use link2sd. This phone has 16gb rom but can let us use only 10gb. Smh.
No 3d games for us. And were not even allowed to mount the sd card as internal storage. Only portable.

Maybe the Galaxy J. I loved the Stylo but the GPS didn't work if the phone got hot.

I just got this pjone today because my old one broke and i had no way to research phones
Guy at metro over hyped it
Someone said there is an sd slot well where is it
And no root i even asked yhe ghy if i could root ot he said ya
Pissed

Xieon1 said:
I just got this pjone today because my old one broke and i had no way to research phones
Guy at metro over hyped it
Someone said there is an sd slot well where is it
And no root i even asked yhe ghy if i could root ot he said ya
Pissed
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Well, I can answer one of your questions. The sd card slot over laps the sim card slot.
We're all patiently waiting for root, my friend.

shooey_ said:
Well, I can answer one of your questions. The sd card slot over laps the sim card slot.
We're all patiently waiting for root, my friend.
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my patience is running out tho hahaha. 8gb worth of system files is crazy. they shouldve just put it as 8gb phone internal. instead of 16gb haha.

I'm running out of patience also. I've posted requests on android forums twice asking why there is no support for this phone and still haven't gotten a reply. It makes no sense whatsoever, when I got my old L70 there was a big support forum for it and the LgK10 is a much better phone so why no support? Pissing me off.
At least I would like a reason from Android Forums for why they have ignored the K10.

Rogue_Jets said:
I'm running out of patience also. I've posted requests on android forums twice asking why there is no support for this phone and still haven't gotten a reply. It makes no sense whatsoever, when I got my old L70 there was a big support forum for it and the LgK10 is a much better phone so why no support? Pissing me off.
At least I would like a reason from Android Forums for why they have ignored the K10.
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I'd buy the L70 again. It was an awesome little phone. Totally agree re: lack of communication. It looks like we had someone post up a failed root attempt about two weeks ago, along with another dev mentioning he'd start on it with no response since.
Devs, we just want to know if there's someone out there actively working on the K10. I can absolutely respect the time it takes to get it done right, but we can't tell if we're waiting on someone or no one.
I'm about ready to jump ship for the J7 or an original G Stylo (if I can get my hands on one). The bloat and stock setup on the K10 are maddening.

Can temp obtain root
I can get root temp using kingroot
Usjng the latest version of kingroot and will either root, or fail all the way to the request research for root button
I lose the root as soon as my phone restarts
The first time I tried it I got root, and phone made no restarts.
The second time I tried to get root back it eventually failed all the way to the research screen but the device did reboot several times during the kingroot root.
The latest time I rooted it the same as the first, no reboot.
I believe part of the problem is keeping kingroot as the superuser app, I think if I replace it with super su it may keep root.
I've seen several people say supersu ends up brick phone
Screen shot below please put together since I can't post links yet
i63.tinypic. com/wimv00.png

anybody tried this? http://www.supersuroot.com/

wizzardsk said:
anybody tried this? http://www.supersuroot.com/
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Ive read the thread. Im not sure i follow tho.
Were suppose to install twrp first before we gain root access?
So that method is a flashable method then?

infamousvincci said:
Ive read the thread. Im not sure i follow tho.
Were suppose to install twrp first before we gain root access?
So that method is a flashable method then?
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Has anyone tried this and have proof that it works?

Xieon2 said:
I can get root temp using kingroot
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Out of curiosity, are you running the MS428?

shooey_ said:
Out of curiosity, are you running the MS428?
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I am but it looks like we may be screwed without any sort of help from the forums folks. It just doesn't make sense that they would bypass giving this phone any consideration for support.

Count me as someone else looking to root this phone

Xieon2 said:
I can get root temp using kingroot
Usjng the latest version of kingroot and will either root, or fail all the way to the request research for root button
I lose the root as soon as my phone restarts
The first time I tried it I got root, and phone made no restarts.
The second time I tried to get root back it eventually failed all the way to the research screen but the device did reboot several times during the kingroot root.
The latest time I rooted it the same as the first, no reboot.
I believe part of the problem is keeping kingroot as the superuser app, I think if I replace it with super su it may keep root.
I've seen several people say supersu ends up brick phone
Screen shot below please put together since I can't post links yet
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what software version do you have?
I rooted before, then it bricked the phone. I sent it to warranty, after the sent it back, i cant root anymore