[Q] Is this Micro SD overkill? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

I purchased a 128GB Sandisk card originally for my LG G3 which failed shortly after getting my Note 4. Sandisk offered to even exchage it or I can wait for the new 64GB extreme pro model soon to come out also as an exchange. Should I go with the larger 128GB card rated at 48mbs or go for the new 64GB UHS-3 card rated at 95mbs. I do not need 128GB of storage but will my phone have any better SD performance with the faster card? Here is the link for the new card and the old one. Advice appreciated
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extre...&sr=8-2&keywords=sandisk+extreme+pro+micro+sd
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...946784&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+128gb+micro+sd

from what I've heard, you can't access your SD card on your own on the note 4 without root. not exactly sure to what extent this goes as I'm STILL WAITING FOR BESTBUY to get my preorder in.. I've sseen other threads here around xda asking if anyone has figured out a way to move files to their SD card without root, and the answers they get are basically, 'no'.
im not the best to answer your question, but seeing as you have links in hand and are probably itching to buy it, i figured i needed to throw that out before you actually buy something you may not have much use for.
google 'SD card on kitkat' and you'll get some better informed information than what i can tell you here on the train. gl either way!
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soraxd said:
from what I've heard, you can't use your SD card on the note 4 without root. not exactly sure to what extent this goes as I'm STILL WAITING FOR BESTBUY to get my preorder in.. I've sseen other threads here around xda asking if anyone has figured out a way to move files to their SD card without root, and the answers they get are basically, 'no'.
im not the best to answer your question, but seeing as you have links in hand and are probably itching to buy it, i figured i needed to throw that out before you actually buy something you may not have much use for.
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I currently have an older SanDisk 32gb in my note 4 that works for storing music and pictures taken with camera. I think the issue you are referring to is moving apps and data from phone to SD which is a problem with kitkat that should be fixed with root or with lollipop update. I am more concerned if my phone will be able to utilize the speed of the faster card. I appreciate your input though

No external SD card writing by other apps is a security feature google added to the kit Kat uodate to help keep sensitive information safe on your phone or tablet.

cnote74 said:
No external SD card writing by other apps is a security feature google added to the kit Kat uodate to help keep sensitive information safe on your phone or tablet.
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I do not store my downloaded apps to my external SD card. My question is will my phone utilize the read speed of the pro model card as far as loading my pics, music, and large video files? Also will it write my pictures and videos taken with phone as fast as the card is rated for or does the micro sd bus speed on note 4 have a limit for read/write speeds.

AndroiderM said:
I do not store my downloaded apps to my external SD card. My question is will my phone utilize the read speed of the pro model card as far as loading my pics, music, and large video files? Also will it write my pictures and videos taken with phone as fast as the card is rated for or does the micro sd bus speed on note 4 have a limit for read/write speeds.
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I have a lot of 1080p video on my SD card and they play perfectly so I think it utilizes the extra speed of the card, my card is a 32 gig with 95mbs speed.

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I have a lot of 1080p video on my SD card and they play perfectly so I think it utilizes the extra speed of the card, my card is a 32 gig with 95mbs speed.
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Thanks for the input

I have the 128 GB card working fine in the note 4. I have had problems writing to it from file managers other than MyFiles. I get the access denied message. I hope we get root soon

Quick question for everyone...what format is your sd card in? I'm about to format from my old s4 and I'm wondering if I should use exfat, ntfs, ext4
..? Thanks
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I have the 128gb I never formatted but with phone. Still exfat32 and works perfectly on my attention note 4.

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SanDisk Ultra 64gb SDXC (43.99)+FS Amazon (DEAD)

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDXC-Memory-Adapter-SDSDQUA-064G-U46A/dp/B007WTAJTO/ref=br_lf_m_1000844271_1_2_ttl?t=slickdeals&tag=slickdeals&ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&pf_rd_p=1407230222&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000844271&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=01EASJ4X4N68Z0M24N29
Get it while it's hot! (in stock as of 8:19 EST) :good:
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Got it ordered. I check it every morning waiting for that price. I will have a 32gb Class 10 for sale on Wednesday!
Thanks, I have been on the fence with 64 gig so many nock offs.... Order is placed
Guys, be warned that SGS3 DOES NOT support UHS-1 (i.e. class 10) cards.
There's a thread some on here where the exact card is supported.
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Guys, be warned that SGS3 DOES NOT support UHS-1 (i.e. class 10) cards.
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does not support, but it works fine if you format the card in the phone. exFAT does not work, however, so you are limited to files < 4gb in size. Kind of defeats the purpose of having such a large microsd card though
UHS1 is simply a speed classification typically used by high power cameras. C10 refers to the minimum write speed of 10mb/s.
This card will work in exfat format for stock GS3, however cwm or twrp recovery only supports fat32 which this card will format to.
I have used this card before so don't be reluctant to to purchase it.
I have been using this exact card since the date I got my GS3 (mid June). It works well with everything and never crashed. It also works with backup and restore within CWM. YMMV though. It is exFAT formatted.
Phone will format it as fat32 and all will be fine. Tested and works well.
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What are you guys talking about? Have anyone actually tried this out?
I have this exact same card UHS-1 Class 10 (not the old Class 6 one) in exFat format and everything works fine in CWM and in Android.
EDIT: BTW, I formatted the card with SDFormatter on my PC, not on the phone.
S3 doesn't support UHS-1 speed but it does support exFAT format. The card itself came as exFAT, S3 won't even ask you to reformat it as FAT32. Just pop it in and everything works 100%.
Sweet, just nabbed one. I check the price every day also and was just about to post it here...beaten to the punch as usual .
ps anyone want to buy a Zune80gb heh heh
Is there a good way to utilize an "external" sd card to store apps and nandroids? It seems like the GS3 (and maybe just ICS/JB in general) is setup to use the "internal" sd for everything.
ponyboy82 said:
Is there a good way to utilize an "external" sd card to store apps and nandroids? It seems like the GS3 (and maybe just ICS/JB in general) is setup to use the "internal" sd for everything.
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Yes, the latest version of cwm official supports internal and external nandroids.
Order placed...Boom! Now I can tote more of my movie rips while traveling.
dangerclose said:
Yes, the latest version of cwm official supports internal and external nandroids.
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Cool, thanks. Any idea about Play store apps? I checked the reviews on Apps2Sd and they were all complaints about how it can only see the internal memory partition.
Lolento said:
What are you guys talking about? Have anyone actually tried this out?
I have this exact same card UHS-1 Class 10 (not the old Class 6 one) in exFat format and everything works fine in CWM and in Android.
EDIT: BTW, I formatted the card with SDFormatter on my PC, not on the phone.
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SD formatter is awesome software. I had issues with a 4speed card jumping in my canon. The SDformatter, made it stop. Dunno how it works, but it does.
Saw this on another android blog this morning and picked up a 32 for the gf, and a 64 for myself. Thanks for posting guys.
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Too bad it can't be shipped to Canada. :crying:
Be aware!
I bought the very same card at the beginning of the month and after 2 days of use the Card stopped working...
The card became unusable and I had to fill a claim with Amazon since the seller didn't reply to any of the emails I sent...
Just my experience guys...

When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ?

When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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spycedtx said:
Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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Even if you don't believe everything posted in a forum, considering that the 64GB S3s are just now slowly starting to trickle out in Europe, I wouldn't be optimistic on that ever happening.
Wait toss doesn't have 64? Kidding, but maybe the onboard chip coukd be removed and replaced with a 64gb model. Couple of guys I work with could do it and they have the tools. Probably safer to put a 64gb class 10 microsd in it. Maybe in a year, after warranty is out, I'll have them take a stab at it.
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Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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That is why I think Samsung should not announce that there is such a thing as a 32/64 GB version of Galaxy Note originally.
glitchsys said:
Wait toss doesn't have 64? Kidding, but maybe the onboard chip coukd be removed and replaced with a 64gb model. Couple of guys I work with could do it and they have the tools. Probably safer to put a 64gb class 10 microsd in it. Maybe in a year, after warranty is out, I'll have them take a stab at it.
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I would imagine that a class 10 64GB card would not be a good idea as a replacement to the built-in 16GB flash; I think the onboard flash is higher speed than any SD card we would install, even if you could get the Note II's storage controller and such to recognize the new chip properly, and do the connections properly.
Sounds like a cool project nonetheless
Try this, it will switch your external sd card to your internal sd card. So if you have a 64gb card you can essentially have a 64gb samsung note 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981090
This is my thread i've done it, love having the extra space and not worry about running out of space.
playtillyadrop said:
Try this, it will switch your external sd card to your internal sd card. So if you have a 64gb card you can essentially have a 64gb samsung note 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981090
This is my thread i've done it, love having the extra space and not worry about running out of space.
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How are things running? The internal storage on the note 2 is about triple the speed of an extreme sd card running at 95mb/s. Note 2 internal read write is just over 220 mb/s. If you use a class 10 sd card, those are only 25-30mb/s. If your playing games with huge loads like Nova 3 or move huge amounts of video/photos, it's likely going to take a huge hit to speed if you use the SD card as internal storage.
It's like desktop PCs - many people use smaller ssds for the OS and the bigger but often slower drives for heavy storage. In this case then internal is like an ssd and the SD card is like a data drive.
Can you compare the transfer rate while moving a big video to and from the internal memory compared to moving the same video to the SD card mounted as the internal drive? Curious as to your results.
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Earthbrain said:
When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
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Iphone doesn't have ability to add an sd card to expand storage. The note II supports up to 64gb in addition to the built in 16gb. What other phone available has this kind of storage?
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geekasso said:
Iphone doesn't have ability to add an sd card to expand storage. The note II supports up to 64gb in addition to the built in 16gb. What other phone available has this kind of storage?
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My point is not that iphone has better storage or not. What I want to say is Samsung stated that there is a 64 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 and they don't release it at the same time as the release of the 16 GB. Apple actually release the 16/32/64 GB at the same time.
The funny thing is, Samsung actually can make its own flash memory. It does not have to depend on another company.
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How are things running? The internal storage on the note 2 is about triple the speed of an extreme sd card running at 95mb/s. Note 2 internal read write is just over 220 mb/s. If you use a class 10 sd card, those are only 25-30mb/s. If your playing games with huge loads like Nova 3 or move huge amounts of video/photos, it's likely going to take a huge hit to speed if you use the SD card as internal storage.
It's like desktop PCs - many people use smaller ssds for the OS and the bigger but often slower drives for heavy storage. In this case then internal is like an ssd and the SD card is like a data drive.
Can you compare the transfer rate while moving a big video to and from the internal memory compared to moving the same video to the SD card mounted as the internal drive? Curious as to your results.
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To be honest i cant tell of any difference in speed in day to day use. Apps load fine and just as fast as the internal sd. The core apps and Stock Rom are installed on the ram, so there wouldnt be any difference really with using the device. As for transferring videos back and forth i haven't really done and tests, but than again i would always store larger media files on the 64gb sd anyway. I do highly recommend this mod especially for someone looking for more capacity. i had this mod on my gs3 and no problems then, and i have no problems now. If anyone is holding out for the 64gb note 2 just look at the gs3 situation. You have to remember you arent removing the internal sd they are just swapped for each other in the OS. So the internal is now the external. Both are accessible just like normal.
I'm running a 64GB microSDXC and it's just fine and dandy. I agree they shouldn't announce it and then not have it available though.
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To be honest i cant tell of any difference in speed in day to day use. Apps load fine and just as fast as the internal sd. The core apps and Stock Rom are installed on the ram, so there wouldnt be any difference really with using the device. As for transferring videos back and forth i haven't really done and tests, but than again i would always store larger media files on the 64gb sd anyway. I do highly recommend this mod especially for someone looking for more capacity. i had this mod on my gs3 and no problems then, and i have no problems now. If anyone is holding out for the 64gb note 2 just look at the gs3 situation. You have to remember you arent removing the internal sd they are just swapped for each other in the OS. So the internal is now the external. Both are accessible just like normal.
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I ran this mod with a 64gb sandisk class 10. Works flawlessly, no difference that I can tell. Its stable and awesome.
eagleis said:
I ran this mod with a 64gb sandisk class 10. Works flawlessly, no difference that I can tell. Its stable and awesome.
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yup the mod is definitely awesome, seriously have to love the xda developers and what they can accomplish on android.
So no issue with game speed? I had to uninstall about 4 games cause my memory was down to 1.65gb. This is the only reason I am thinking of really rooting right now
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Maybe they'll release a 64GB when this is ready
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/samsung-10nm-64gb-emmc-mobile-flash-memory/
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ratchetjaw said:
So no issue with game speed? I had to uninstall about 4 games cause my memory was down to 1.65gb. This is the only reason I am thinking of really rooting right now
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seriously no game speed difference at all. Everything works flawlessly.
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seriously no game speed difference at all. Everything works flawlessly.
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Great to hear. Will root mine and do this once this 64gb class 10 card I ordered is in. Have a32 in now so will just wait
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Use EXTERNAL SD, do not rely on internal storage!
Earthbrain said:
When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
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You should never be worried about the internal memory size - even 8GB should be enough, AS LONG AS the phone comes with EXTERNAL SD CARD SLOT WHICH ACCEPTS LARGE SD CARDS. Having the external SD card is NOT necessarily about expanding your storing capacity (although a 64GB does that generously) but rather about having your information safe, significantly less prone to accidental formatting/erasing. Most of the time when you do a factory reset your internal storage is also formatted - do you want that to happen when you stored tons of important information? Of course not!! Worried about read/write speed? Buy a high quality, class 10 external SD card and I promise you won't see any drop in speed. Only use the internal storage for files that the system really looks for and requires to be placed inhere - otherwise, EVERYTHING else, especially large media files, backups and personal files should be kept onto the EXTERNAL SD Card. There are tons of advantages doing so and all those messages companies like Apple, HTC (newly adopted this stupid model), or others alike who try to influence and convince you that external SD cards are obsolete & cloud storage is better, all that is simply marketing BS. Buy Samsung because they didn't aligned themselves to the BS, because you can have a super generous 16GB internal storage and up to 64GB external storage. Do you need more than 80GB on the go? Then reconsider...really! Maybe you shouldn't download all the internet today, leave some for tomorrow when they'll make you pay for all that "free" cloud storage that you kept cramming onto today. Be open minded, understand how things work and do what's good for YOU not for the big corporations!
Several game loft games and the internal storage is gone... some people do that ya know
And most people dont know about all the hacks to get around this limitation.
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[Q] Please. Which Micro SD Card? Galaxy Note 10.1

I bought my first tablet - Galaxy Note 10.1, 16g, a week ago. Latest updates to 4.1.2. I have searched the net, watched video's, read till I'm blind, called Samsung(No Help There), and walked away totally frustrated more than once. All the tech stuff about Class #,(4 verses 6 or 10) type, Samsung verses Sandisk, exfat, HC, HCCX, HCl, on & on.. It would all be fine IF there was a general favorite.
I want to buy the best functioning, best peformance micro 32 g sd card for general all around enjoyment the Note will best utilize.
Please, please suggest the best 32g sd card for the Note. Please be specific with brand, class, and type. I have learned so much from you folks. I am glad I found this site for most all my concerns. I will certainly thank you for taking your time to suggest the most appropriate purchase.:fingers-crossed:
Well, to keeo it short and sweet. First off, some have gotten it to accept a 64gb card but with a certain formatting and process to go through.
In my experience, I got this 32gb card for 22.00 on sale at a local wholesaler. It was accepted by the n8013 without any difficulty.
Sandisk worked for me.
Deb
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It really doesn't matter as far as class goes and the tab does take up to a 64gb card easy enough. I just bought a SanDisk 64gb Class 10 card off NewEgg for $54.99 on their Shell Shocker deal of the day thing. You just pop the card in, go to settings, storage, scroll down to SD Card and format SD card. Basically it's just a FAT32 format, but whatever...
Anyway, that's it. After that you are all set to use it.
I also have a SanDisk 64gb Class 10. The class doesn't make a difference, all current cards will perform the same. You won't notice a performance difference on the Note. You just need to format to fat 32, as the other poster suggested. I would also buy from a reputable seller because there are a lot of knock offs with fake labeling on them. I got mine from Best Buy for $56. The 32 gb was around half the price.
A lot of people go with Sandisk because of reliability and price.
i have sandisk 64gb class 10 bout it from ebay £42 and converted it to iternal memory thanks to zedomax hack i have 64gb iternal memory
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It really doesn't matter as far as class goes and the tab does take up to a 64gb card easy enough. I just bought a SanDisk 64gb Class 10 card off NewEgg for $54.99 on their Shell Shocker deal of the day thing. You just pop the card in, go to settings, storage, scroll down to SD Card and format SD card. Basically it's just a FAT32 format, but whatever...
Anyway, that's it. After that you are all set to use it.
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Thanks. I just checked New Egg It's not there any more?
ExploreMN said:
It really doesn't matter as far as class goes and the tab does take up to a 64gb card easy enough. I just bought a SanDisk 64gb Class 10 card off NewEgg for $54.99 on their Shell Shocker deal of the day thing. You just pop the card in, go to settings, storage, scroll down to SD Card and format SD card. Basically it's just a FAT32 format, but whatever...
Anyway, that's it. After that you are all set to use it.
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What type of card? hdxc uhs sdhd?
rtan73 said:
I also have a SanDisk 64gb Class 10. The class doesn't make a difference, all current cards will perform the same. You won't notice a performance difference on the Note. You just need to format to fat 32, as the other poster suggested. I would also buy from a reputable seller because there are a lot of knock offs with fake labeling on them. I got mine from Best Buy for $56. The 32 gb was around half the price.
A lot of people go with Sandisk because of reliability and price.
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What type of card? hdxc uhs sdhd?
Sandisk Utra 64gb micro sdxc class 10. I remember someone posting that it was on sale on Amazon, but it was last week so I don't know if it's still one sale.
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It really doesn't matter as far as class goes and the tab does take up to a 64gb card easy enough. I just bought a SanDisk 64gb Class 10 card off NewEgg for $54.99 on their Shell Shocker deal of the day thing. You just pop the card in, go to settings, storage, scroll down to SD Card and format SD card. Basically it's just a FAT32 format, but whatever...
Anyway, that's it. After that you are all set to use it.
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Ok Folks, I can not thank you enough for your time and advice. But I will anyway, Thank You ALL for responding. :good:
New Egg jumped back up to $80 and Amazon was $65 and then sold out while I was checking a few things..... So I ordered the Sandisk 64g HDXC SDSDQUA-064G-U46A. I just hope it works when I put it in the Note. I may be back for help if it is not as simple as you say. Then if it is, I hope I can intall APPS on it with out restrictions to space and all will be Dandy, right?
After a week of trying to find a case-Moko Slim fit, sd/usb/micro usb adaptor-JUICED Systems GT401-01, screen protector-ClearPleax, and now micro SD card, I am exhausted! Still need one of those mini keyboards, but need to decide if rf or bt is the way to go. Now I just need to learn how to use all the neat stuff on Note...I think I will be ready to use it for work..& fun. Thanks Again.
Using 64Gb sandisk class 10 ( black friday around 40usd ) - works fine..
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Ok Folks, I can not thank you enough for your time and advice. But I will anyway, Thank You ALL for responding. :good:
New Egg jumped back up to $80 and Amazon was $65 and then sold out while I was checking a few things..... So I ordered the Sandisk 64g HDXC SDSDQUA-064G-U46A. I just hope it works when I put it in the Note. I may be back for help if it is not as simple as you say. Then if it is, I hope I can intall APPS on it with out restrictions to space and all will be Dandy, right?
After a week of trying to find a case-Moko Slim fit, sd/usb/micro usb adaptor-JUICED Systems GT401-01, screen protector-ClearPleax, and now micro SD card, I am exhausted! Still need one of those mini keyboards, but need to decide if rf or bt is the way to go. Now I just need to learn how to use all the neat stuff on Note...I think I will be ready to use it for work..& fun. Thanks Again.
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Hey Jerry,
You only get notified if you subscribe to the thread (in response to your PM). Anyway, as I said, the formatting the Note uses for MicroSD is FAT32. You don't need to turn it off to insert the SD, but when you eject it, you would want to go into setting, storage, and unmount SD card.
You don't need partitions, but because it's FAT32, you are limited to 2GB or smaller files.
Anyway, that should answer the SD questions.
As for the keyboard, I have the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Works very well, comes with a tablet stand sorta built in the case, and it's full sized, so typing on it rocks. Costs $70-80 though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36980115&postcount=2
saerith;3696217ll said:
False. I have a stock note 10.1. So does my mother and father. We all are running 64gb sd cards out of the box. Class 10 sandisk 64gb. Absolutely no formatting necessary. Plug and play.
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....I hope I can intall APPS on it with out restrictions to space and all will be Dandy, right?
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From what I understand, you cannot install and run Apps from your SD card...
According to another poster here 'From what I understand, you cannot install and run Apps from your SD card...' I know some apps may not be willing to load from an extrernal card for some vendor reason, but that is the exception, is'nt it? For the most part, we can load, install and use apps with the 64gb card we ordered right? I know I have held off loading apps because I want them on the ext sd.
aalupatti said:
Using 64Gb sandisk class 10 ( black friday around 40usd ) - works fine..
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I have had the same success with three gt-n8013 notes. Its a complete falsity that the 64gb class 10 san disks need to be formatted to work. Plug and play.
jjl0412 said:
I bought my first tablet - Galaxy Note 10.1, 16g, a week ago. Latest updates to 4.1.2. I have searched the net, watched video's, read till I'm blind, called Samsung(No Help There), and walked away totally frustrated more than once. All the tech stuff about Class #,(4 verses 6 or 10) type, Samsung verses Sandisk, exfat, HC, HCCX, HCl, on & on.. It would all be fine IF there was a general favorite.
I want to buy the best functioning, best peformance micro 32 g sd card for general all around enjoyment the Note will best utilize.
Please, please suggest the best 32g sd card for the Note. Please be specific with brand, class, and type. I have learned so much from you folks. I am glad I found this site for most all my concerns. I will certainly thank you for taking your time to suggest the most appropriate purchase.:fingers-crossed:
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Sandisk 32gb Class 10 heres a link http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...&qid=1358903514&sr=8-2&keywords=32gb+micro+sd
Class 10 has faster data transfer speeds way worth the extra $6-8.
had a SanDisk 16GB and it went sour. never bought one tho somehow got them all for free
edit: they did replace it for free also, but I lost all my data on a so called reliable card
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You don't need partitions, but because it's FAT32, you are limited to 2GB or smaller files.
Anyway, that should answer the SD questions.
Got it today. worked without doing anything. 59.4g. How can I confirm the format is FAT32 or exFAT? I have read that it can be either?
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Anyone using Adoptable Storage? All my old cards are too slow...

My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
From my understanding there aren't any cards at the moment quick enough to serve the role efficiently. Just use it as an external storage until faster cards become available.
I was about to make a post concerning the best Micro SD cards do Moto Z Play, thanks for bringing that up!
I have a 128gb Samsung EVO micro sd, class 10, but it's 48mb/s and I got the same message you did, saying the card isn't fast enough and that the overall apps and system speeds could be slower.
I thought class 10 micro sd's were among the fastest and the Moto Z Play wouldn't have any trouble using it as an extension of it's internal storage, but as a matter of fact, there are indeed faster micro sds. After researching a little bit, I found Samsung EVOs with 80mb/s transfer speeds (the 48mb/s are colored orange, as the 80mb/s are little green ones):
I still haven't bought one, but I browsed through some forums and videos and people with the same problem said 80mb/s seems to do the trick and they didn't get any message complaining about the micro sd speed.
f you want even faster micro sds, try the Sandisk Extreme, with speeds up to 90mb/s:
I have to get a faster micro SD anyway, as soon as i do i'll post here my experience with it.
Hope this helps,
Cheers!
While running the adopted 50 MB card AFT fails on most copy operations.
I am afraid ? that 2 times faster may not be enough for the already challenged ATF, buggy as it is already.
aviwdoowks said:
My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
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How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
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How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
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Just 12 not including the statusbar pro, which I cannot live without.
Better?
Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
geomun said:
Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
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Thanks
Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
aviwdoowks said:
Thanks
Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
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In my use case, adaptable storage doesn't make much sense on devices with 32gb or more of internal storage. Unless you really need that much space for app installs, the limitations outweigh the benefits. My typical app load is around 8 to 10gb, so I have somewhere around another 10 available on the MZP, as long as I pull all my media into an external card. This way I know all my apps are using fast internal storage, and I don't have to wonder if a widget is available or not. And I can pull the card and use it in a PC or other device.
Now my Moto E 2 (with 8gb onboard) is a different story. But I use a hybrid card in that - 20gb as adopted and the other 40 as external. May consider this as an option when I get around to getting a card for the MZP
I took a 32gb card and combined it. It warned me too. After reading up on the function, Android evaluates what to put where. Having the card separate made it less useful only good for photos and video really. This way app data can be buffered there. Things like cloud services buffer files internally. Netflix now uses SD but that was an issue too.
Bought a new micro SD for the Moto Z Play and it works perfectly with no warnings about it's speed being slow!
It's a Samsung PRO 64 GB microSDXC Card, with 90 MB/s reading speed and 80 MB/s writing speed.
As you insert the card and format it to be part of the phone's internal storage, the system doesn't complain about the card being too slow or that it'll affect the overall app and system speed.
It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
Cheers! =)
arides said:
It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
tag68 said:
It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
So I am left to getting large music files from an external drive over OTG.
It is so much more reliable to drop the file right to the SD and move the card to the phone.
If the adopted card fails , you need a data wipe or an update screws it up, you have a bad phone day!
aviwdoowks said:
I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
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Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
tag68 said:
It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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tag68 said:
Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
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Is that only on snow?
I do have a snow partition for older programs.
So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
Tell me more please, cause I hate ATF soooo much. Why does Android drop it's ball like this?
aviwdoowks said:
Is that only on snow?
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I'm quite sure that file sharing via smb: is available on nearly all versions of Windows and OSX.
You may start Windows file sharing in network settings of OSX. Then you can give access to some drive in Finder.
If you google a bit, you will find help I guess.
aviwdoowks said:
So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
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Buy? Total Commander is free of cost, including all necessary plugins. For Windows file sharing (smb) you need the TC LAN plugin.
Edit: By "a bit slower" I meant because it usually is being used via WLAN in your intranet
Just wanted to post back here - finally got around to picking up an sd card for the MZP. Went with Samsung evo 128gb, $40 on Amazon. Since it's got plenty of space, I decided to go the same route that I did with the moto e, and do hybrid storage. Formatted 25% adopted and 75% external. Gives me an additional 30gb internal space and 90gb external storage.
Device sees the storage space fine. A couple apps I've messed with so far (Netflix and Google play music) can save to external fine, but don't recognize the additional available space in "internal", or at last don't report it as available.
I don't plan to move any apps that I use frequently or anything that I use widgets from to adopted, as the advertised max read speed is only 20mb/s. Haven't actually tested yet. But I did move a couple low use apps over. Reported storage space on both internal and adopted updated correctly (an issue I've had in the past).
So far, so good.

HTC 10: A devourer of SD cards?

Hi!
Today my SD card died and took some pictures with it to the grave, fortunately nothing very important. It may not have been the most expensive card, but it was a fast one and I used it as internal storage. It didn't show any signs of deterioration before it died. I tried to read the card with my PC and two tablets but none of my devices is able to even see the card.
Before buying a new SD card I want to ask a few things:
Does the HTC 10 have more problems with SD cards than other phones in your opinion?
Should I use my new card as internal storage again or do you recommend to use it as external storage?
Is it worthwhile to buy an expensive card? I laid my eyes on this one: SDSQXCG-064G-GN6MA (SanDisk Extreme PRO microSDXC Memory Card Plus SD Adapter up to 100 MB/s, Class 10, U3, V30, A1 - 64 GB). It costs about 50€.
I hope that you want to share your thoughts with me.
Regards,
Benjamin
If the card was inexpensive and fast, I would think that the compromise made was on build quality/reliability. Using the card as internal storage will wear on the sdcard more than using it as external storage (more reads/writes, more heat) because it will store apps and app data on the sd card.
I don't think the HTC 10 has a problem with sd cards, I haven't heard this issue come up before.
If you have enough space for apps on the internal storage, I would recommend keeping the sd card as external storage.
However, if you still need to use a card as internal storage, you definitely want to get a more expensive card.
Sandisk extreme pro is a good choice because it's made for use with devices like GoPros that do constant writing for extended periods of time, meaning that they can handle the heat that builds up when constantly writing to the sd card.
Sometimes it could really just be pure chance, maybe you got a bad card that died early, but I definitely think it would have lasted longer as external storage.
I'd be interested to know if anyone else has had a similar problem with any phone with an sd card as internal storage.
The thing is - current sd card technology is not suitable for adoptable storage. Multiple read write proceses are killing memory cards. So, until someone makes a card that can take the beating of multiple read write proceses, just use your card as it's ment to be used - as a removable storage and you'll be just fine [emoji6]
Thank you both for your well formulated and competent response.
I've taken all these points into consideration when I chose to use my first SD card as internal storage. I really would like to know if a high quality card could last the expected lifetime of my HTC 10 when using it as internal storage. I wanted to avoid the limitations Google imposed on write access to the external card but when I saw the limitations of the internal storage solution I was unsure if it was a good decision.
It's good to hear that you do not have the experience that the HTC 10 has a problem with SD cards. With that information in mind I can buy an expensive SD card with good conscience.
voxibanez said:
I'd be interested to know if anyone else has had a similar problem with any phone with an sd card as internal storage.
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Let's hope that more users are going to share their opinion with us.
I've just sent back my second SanDisk Extreme PRO card in 18 months. The first one stopped working after just 4 months in the HTC 10, the second one a few weeks ago. The circumstances were identical, I wrote larger amounts of data in a short time and the phone started saying that the card has to be formatted. I could use a reader connected to my laptop to get most of my data back, but the phone insisted on a format. I'm not sure if it was the SanDisk cards or the phone, either way, I ordered a Samsung card this time. Luckily amazon.de is extremely customer friendly and just gave me my money back in both cases.
I always use transcend, I've had a 128gb external SD card in since may 2016, all camera shots goto external card, all flashing and backups goto external card. Never had a problem, touch wood ?
Guys, are any of you using Spotify? I have consistently had microSD cards die after downloading songs for offline use i.e. two phones and three different microSD cards.
I use a Samsung evo card as removable storage since January, never had any problems with it. They are a bit more expensive, but it is worth it in my opinion. I use it mainly for Spotify and Netflix downloads as well as pictures (wallpapers) and ringtones... Don't use a rather inexpensive card as adoptable storage, since they are too slow. Or even expensive cards for that matter In a few years, sd cards will be fast enough, but not today. Also, I fail to see a practical use for using the card as adoptable storage as of right now since 32 gb are plenty of space for apps
bopsch said:
I use it mainly for Spotify and Netflix downloads as well as pictures (wallpapers) and ringtones...
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I did not know that it is possible to tell the Spotify app to use external storage. Will try when I get my new card.
bopsch said:
Don't use a rather inexpensive card as adoptable storage, since they are too slow. Or even expensive cards for that matter In a few years, sd cards will be fast enough, but not today. Also, I fail to see a practical use for using the card as adoptable storage as of right now since 32 gb are plenty of space for apps
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I'm going to buy a card produced by a reputable company this time, for sure. But I thought that cards with the A1 specification (Application performance class] would be fast enough for use as adopted storage. But you are right, 32 Gb is a lot of space for apps.
eTaurus said:
I did not know that it is possible to tell the Spotify app to use external storage. Will try when I get my new card.
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Actually, if Spotify recognises your sd card as removable storage, it even is the default setting
bopsch said:
I use a Samsung evo card as removable storage since January, never had any problems with it. They are a bit more expensive, but it is worth it in my opinion. I use it mainly for Spotify and Netflix downloads as well as pictures (wallpapers) and ringtones... Don't use a rather inexpensive card as adoptable storage, since they are too slow. Or even expensive cards for that matter In a few years, sd cards will be fast enough, but not today. Also, I fail to see a practical use for using the card as adoptable storage as of right now since 32 gb are plenty of space for apps
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I've used Samsung evo and Sandisk Ultra Extreme and the both failed a short time after downloading Spotify songs!
I've had a Transcend 64GB card fail after a few months. It was inserted as external storage and I was able to recover its contents on a PC. I was able to put it back in the phone without formatting it, just tried a few times until eventually it worked.
It happened when it was very hot outside, not sure if this is related or not. I wonder how many failed cards are failing during hot weather, during heavy phone use, or in hot climate areas.
I've switched to a Samsung 128GB evo plus now, u3 speed, so far so good. Fingers crossed. Judging by this thread though, it does seem that this phone kind of eats through SD cards.
adibadi said:
Judging by this thread though, it does seem that this phone kind of eats through SD cards.
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This is precisely what I wanted to know in this thread. Before buying my first card for the HTC 10 I read a number of threads that suggested this phone specifically has problems with cards bigger than 64 GB. But the reaction to my thread doesn't seem to be so hysterical to me.
I been using a Toshiba Exceria M302 128GB as external storage since the phone first launched and it hasn't failed on me yet, touchwood. Although I only been using up to around 50GB usage, I have re-download my Spotify collection a couple times.
The SD card in my HTC 10 is going on 15 months old, and it's still ticking. I have never used it as adaptive storage. It just stores photos taken on the camera (which are backed up to Google Photos). Some games offer to save data onto the SD card, so I do that as well. It's a Samsung 64GB PRO (class 10).
Not sure if the UHS-1/3 cards will fare better.

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