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Question about rooting!

Hi,
I’m waiting for my LG G Pad 8.3 (still in the mail, should be here by the end of the week!!!) and I have a few questions about it. I plan to root it but I would like to know a few things before doing this as I’m not an expert with “rooting devices”…
1) If I root the device but not install any custom ROM or custom Recovery, will I still receive the automatic OTA update from LG? Of what I understood, if you don’t modify any “system” files, install custom ROM or Recovery, you should be able to get OTA update?
2) If I decide to install a custom ROM/Recovery and then want to go back to the stock ROM, Is it available for download? I checked (quickly) on the forum and I didn't see any link to download it (stock ROM from LG).
Thanks in advance!

PParent said:
Hi,
I’m waiting for my LG G Pad 8.3 (still in the mail, should be here by the end of the week!!!) and I have a few questions about it. I plan to root it but I would like to know a few things before doing this as I’m not an expert with “rooting devices”…
1) If I root the device but not install any custom ROM or custom Recovery, will I still receive the automatic OTA update from LG? Of what I understood, if you don’t modify any “system” files, install custom ROM or Recovery, you should be able to get OTA update?
2) If I decide to install a custom ROM/Recovery and then want to go back to the stock ROM, Is it available for download? I checked (quickly) on the forum and I didn't see any link to download it (stock ROM from LG).
Thanks in advance!
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1)you probably can not update ota on stock rooted fw. I had asked the same question to the developer of the root method for our devices and this is what he had said:
dalingrin said:
My suggestion, if you want to keep root don't take an OTA.
If you really want to stay with stock LG then you'll want to flash updates via custom recovery. The community will take the updates from LG and make them flashable with TWRP or CWM.
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2)in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554121 there are 2 methods to unbrick the gpad and revert back to full stock, both rom and recovery

katsika said:
1)you probably can not update ota on stock rooted fw. I had asked the same question to the developer of the root method for our devices and this is what he had said:
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Thanks for your reply! If the update from LG will be available for download so I can flash it, this work with me! I might not keep the stock ROM too... I never had an android device from LG so I'm not sure how it look like... If there is too much bloatware (like Samsung), I won't keep it.
katsika said:
2)in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554121 there are 2 methods to unbrick the gpad and revert back to full stock, both rom and recovery
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Just to make sure... Stock Kernel = Stock ROM? So the "LG G Pad Sock Kernel.img" is the latest version of the stock ROM from LG?

PParent said:
Thanks for your reply! If the update from LG will be available for download so I can flash it, this work with me! I might not keep the stock ROM too... I never had an android device from LG so I'm not sure how it look like... If there is too much bloatware (like Samsung), I won't keep it.
Just to make sure... Stock Kernel = Stock ROM? So the "LG G Pad Sock Kernel.img" is the latest version of the stock ROM from LG?
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There is too much bloatware in this tablet just like the Samsung ones. In my opinion the stock rom is worthy if you want maximum stability or you need the lg apps.
No, kernel with rom are different things, google rom vs kernel. The stock kernel is for people who have flashed custom kernels and want to revert back to stock. If you look in the original android development section of these forums you ll see that there are 2 custom kernels and more custom roms available for our tablet atm.

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There is too much bloatware in this tablet just like the Samsung ones. In my opinion the stock rom is worthy if you want maximum stability or you need the lg apps.
No, kernel with rom are different things, google rom vs kernel. The stock kernel is for people who have flashed custom kernels and want to revert back to stock. If you look in the original android development section of these forums you ll see that there are 2 custom kernels and more custom roms available for our tablet atm.
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Thanks for the info! I'm not very familiar with this but I'm getting there! I'm reading related post/subject (rooting device) on the xda-developers forum so this help me a lot! I should receive my tablet tomorrow or Thursday so I'll test/inspect it to make sure everything is ok with it and than try to root it.
Did you root yours? Are you using a custom ROM on it?

PParent said:
Thanks for the info! I'm not very familiar with this but I'm getting there! I'm reading related post/subject (rooting device) on the xda-developers forum so this help me a lot! I should receive my tablet tomorrow or Thursday so I'll test/inspect it to make sure everything is ok with it and than try to root it.
Did you root yours? Are you using a custom ROM on it?
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I had rooted it when dalingrin released the adb root method as I couldn't trust the kingo root method. Adaway and titanium backup are some of the top apps but these apps need root. Also you won't be able to move apps or games to SD without root. I flashed cyanogen mod 11 some days ago and I'm totally satisfied with it. The gpad became faster, with more ram available and with less battery consumption.

katsika said:
I had rooted it when dalingrin released the adb root method as I couldn't trust the kingo root method. Adaway and titanium backup are some of the top apps but these apps need root. Also you won't be able to move apps or games to SD without root. I flashed cyanogen mod 11 some days ago and I'm totally satisfied with it. The gpad became faster, with more ram available and with less battery consumption.
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I'll use the root method of dalingrin then! I installed CM on my old device and I liked it so I might test it on my G Pad! There is no big issues with it? I know that it still in "Nightlies status so it might not be "stable". I'm looking forward to receive my G Pad!

PParent said:
I'll use the root method of dalingrin then! I installed CM on my old device and I liked it so I might test it on my G Pad! There is no big issues with it? I know that it still in "Nightlies status so it might not be "stable". I'm looking forward to receive my G Pad!
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CM runs stable on G Pad as of now. Very few features are lacking and you can check the CM thread nad if you have half an hour to spare you can go through the change log as well.
For the love of God, do not mistake a rom for a kernel. And remember that a kernel is usually made for a specific ROM. Kernels will improve performance on specific ROM's.. And enable new features under the hood and so on. But if you install a stock kernel onto a CM rom, it would be like filling a car with the wrong fuel and it would most likely get stuck in bootloop until you reflash a compatible kernel. - As stated above there are 2 custom kernels, one is ported for a few of the custom roms.. The other one as far as I know is pretty empty atm. and is aiming at becoming Play Edition-"like", I don't remember for what ROM. On certain mainstream devices you will find many a kernel and usually something that will suit your needs. Perhaps this will happen with the G Pad at some point.
Good luck on your rooting adventures and feel free to ask anything if you hit a wall at some point.

I received my G Pad yesterday! I rooted it by using the “dalingrin” method, installed TWRP and then CM11 (the stock ROM had too much bloatware for me!). Everything worked without any issue so now I can enjoy my new toys! I was hesitating between the Nexus 7 and the G Pad and I’m very happy that I chose the G Pad!
Thanks again for your replies/help guys!

PParent said:
I received my G Pad yesterday! I rooted it by using the “dalingrin” method, installed TWRP and then CM11 (the stock ROM had too much bloatware for me!). Everything worked without any issue so now I can enjoy my new toys! I was hesitating between the Nexus 7 and the G Pad and I’m very happy that I chose the G Pad!
Thanks again for your replies/help guys!
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I told you that it has too much bloatware, you did the right thing! I was also balancing between nexus 7 fhd and gpad and i picked the gpad for its 8.3" screen.

[Q] Optimus UI - Removal?

Just saw the leaked screenshots of Android L on the LG G3. Really dissapointed in the fact that you can barely tell the difference since the home screen, again, is filled with all the LG theming like Optimus UI. I was just wondering, is it possible to install Android on the device without all that? Like, near stock Android. Same goes for KitKat, is it possible?

When the bump tool is released probably. Until then depending what variant you are on no.

im on d855, im rooted but havent gone all out with customization

csassine1 said:
im on d855, im rooted but havent gone all out with customization
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I've got a d855 as well. There is a few non LG roms to try, I'm using liquid smooth at the minute and love it.

p70shooter said:
I've got a d855 as well. There is a few non LG roms to try, I'm using liquid smooth at the minute and love it.
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link me it please? and if possible a how to? not the smartest with this stuff

csassine1 said:
im on d855, im rooted but havent gone all out with customization
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If your only issue is the homescreen try a different launcher
If you want a new rom, well every rom has an how to install in the op but close to stock roms are tethered so you will have to load the kernel via fatboot every time you reboot (for now) but that should also be covered in the op's of the roms

[Q] cleaner android experience?

I'm sure someone has asked this question already, so please forgive me if I'm repeating... I have successfully rooted my G pad 8.3 Verizon LTE version... Is there a way to install a recovery and flash custom roms? I really want to put something like a pure Google experience like lollipop on this tablet... If someone would give me a few links, etc., I would really appreciate it...

I'm running 4.4.2 on VK81022B...

Voyaging said:
I'm sure someone has asked this question already, so please forgive me if I'm repeating... I have successfully rooted my G pad 8.3 Verizon LTE version... Is there a way to install a recovery and flash custom roms? I really want to put something like a pure Google experience like lollipop on this tablet... If someone would give me a few links, etc., I would really appreciate it...
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We have TWRP for the verizon G Pad, link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726707 , but we do not have any custom roms for it yet, when I get time I was hoping to try and port a lollipop rom but have been too busy to even start...best thing to do if you want cleaner experience is root, install TWRP so you can make a backup before you start modding, and use titanium backup or something similar (I use both TB and Root Uninstaller) and uninstall or freeze all the verizon bloat they put on it.

Yeah I've removed bloat. Thanks for response. I will look forward to this eventually having custom roms available.

KitKat or Lollipop?

Hey guys, fairly new here, but I wanted to ask some people's opinions because I'm not so sure.
As the thread's name says, I'm torn between Lollipop and KitKat. At the moment I'm on KitKat, running stock ROM and Rin Kernel, rooted with TWRP.
I was previously on Lollipop but I decided to switch back to KitKat PURELY because of the soft keys (yes, I know) and the amazing G3 Tweaksbox by Pierandra Toti. (I think I spelt it right, not sure. Sorry if it's wrong.)
If you recommend me staying on KitKat, what would you recommend I change? At the moment I'm not entirely sure, because Lollipop's UI is a lot cleaner, and a bit faster in my opinion.
Please help me! ?
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Mevolent said:
Hey guys, fairly new here, but I wanted to ask some people's opinions because I'm not so sure.
As the thread's name says, I'm torn between Lollipop and KitKat. At the moment I'm on KitKat, running stock ROM and Rin Kernel, rooted with TWRP.
I was previously on Lollipop but I decided to switch back to KitKat PURELY because of the soft keys (yes, I know) and the amazing G3 Tweaksbox by Pierandra Toti. (I think I spelt it right, not sure. Sorry if it's wrong.)
If you recommend me staying on KitKat, what would you recommend I change? At the moment I'm not entirely sure, because Lollipop's UI is a lot cleaner, and a bit faster in my opinion.
Please help me!
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My opinion is this, I love lollipop because the phone seems faster and the battery life is way better and the new UI is pretty sweet. I run stock debloated rooted Rom because I love stability with a few tweaks to make it a bit faster. Tweaksbox now works for lollipop so that's great for customization. The only way I would tell you to stay on KitKat would be because the WiFi calling is sketchy with lollipop. With kitkat all Xposed modules work, as with lollipop not all work but all the once I use on KitKat work on lollipop. There's a list somewhere on XDA that will show you which ones work and which dont? Backup kitkat including efs and stick with lollipop a couple of weeks and see if you like it. ?

Still_living714 said:
My opinion is this, I love lollipop because the phone seems faster and the battery life is way better and the new UI is pretty sweet. I run stock debloated rooted Rom because I love stability with a few tweaks to make it a bit faster. Tweaksbox now works for lollipop so that's great for customization. The only way I would tell you to stay on KitKat would be because the WiFi calling is sketchy with lollipop. With kitkat all Xposed modules work, as with lollipop not all work but all the once I use on KitKat work on lollipop. There's a list somewhere on XDA that will show you which ones work and which dont? Backup kitkat including efs and stick with lollipop a couple of weeks and see if you like it. ?
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I think I might try Lollipop again, seeing as I switched back go KitKat just after root became available for Lollipop.
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Mevolent said:
I think I might try Lollipop again, seeing as I switched back go KitKat just after root became available for Lollipop.
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try it out but make sure to backup your Rom after flashing Xposed as some modules bootloop your device,but most of them are stable by now.

The softkeys take a little getting used to (LG making them oversized doesnt really help that ).
Other than that, I think the benefits of Lollipop in general, outweigh KitKat. Performance is notably smoother and battery life has been better in my experience.

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The softkeys take a little getting used to (LG making them oversized doesnt really help that [emoji14]).
Other than that, I think the benefits of Lollipop in general, outweigh KitKat. Performance is notably smoother and battery life has been better in my experience.
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If you change the stock DPI to 530 or 560 (mine is 530) everything gets a hell of a lot smaller
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Well, I literally spent the whole day trying to install TWRP on my phone but I couldn't figure it out 'cos I'm stoopid. Someone post some sort of super easy guide and I'll go back to Lollipop. (I really want to go back to Lollipop!)
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Mevolent said:
Well, I literally spent the whole day trying to install TWRP on my phone but I couldn't figure it out 'cos I'm stoopid. Someone post some sort of super easy guide and I'll go back to Lollipop. (I really want to go back to Lollipop!)
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You said in the OP that you already had TWRP installed. What happened?

I said I'm on KitKat with Rin kernel and TWRP. Haven't figured out how flash it on Lollipop. Probably some super obvious way but I'm a dum dum sooo... ?
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I said I'm on KitKat with Rin kernel and TWRP. Haven't figured out how flash it on Lollipop. Probably some super obvious way but I'm a dum dum sooo...
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Look through the play store for autorec for your g3's model
Sorry I'm not giving a link, I'm just being lazy

I tried getting the D855 version for my D855 but Google thinks that mine isn't a D855
EDIT: inglojosh is going to DM the link
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Kitkat!!! I upgraded my phone to 5.0.2 and it is the worst decision i have ever made stay on kitkat lolipop will rape your phone

Just an update, guys. Thanks for all your help, I decided to flash CloudyG3 straight from KitKat, and it is better in every way. If I did something seriously wrong there, help me out and tell me if I was supposed to update via LG's PC Suite and then flash.
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Can l flash european .kdz on korean model?

Hello, I've recently bought a LG G3 Korean model F400s . I successfully rooted, install recovery and then went for the latest build of xposed modules.
So, now that I have some "freedom", is it possible to flash an European .kdz on my device?I say European because they are similar on specs apart from the extra ram for the Korean model.
It could also be an US .kdz if it's working...anything but Korean. I would like stock .kdz in any case.
I'm willing to try anything really and not afraid to brick it.

Hi,
No, you can't flash a EU KDZ on your device.
I'll recommended to find a custom Rom suitable for your device.
I think Cloudy had an specific Rom suitable for your device.
Regards

Thanks for your reply. Could you recommend a Rom based on stock heavily. A stock Rom?

CloudyG3, SlickROM, XtraLite

Is it possible to flash one of these and then into it so that I can use my banking app?
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AP0ll0UK said:
Is it possible to flash one of these and then into it so that I can use my banking app?
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Can you explain? Sorry, but your question doesnt make sense..

theKramer said:
Can you explain? Sorry, but your question doesnt make sense..
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Apologies, what I meant was can any of the above mentioned roms be installed and then can the rom be unrooted.
The reason I cant have a rooted rom is because my banking app that I regularly use won't run on a rooted device.
I have an F400s and rom updates are few and far between. Their are some niggles with the current official LG rom such as problems with dropped calls, but because it's an F400s I can't exactly ring LG and complain because the phone is an import.
I'd like to run a custom rom that has decent support but I need to be unrooted for my banking app.
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Did you try to use Root Cloak to hide root from your banking app?
Otherwise, if you flash the non-rooted ROM you lose root again..

I read some threads a while ago which suggested that the Barclays Mobile Banking rom originally worked with Root Cloak but then didn't answer never versions of the banking app were released.
I might try flashing another Rom and try Root Cloak for myself, but to be honest I don't 'need' root these days to be honest.
Out of the roms mentioned above, is there one in particular which you would recommend?

CloudyG3 is probably the best when starting off as it's the least modified.
SlickROM is the smallest in size so is probably the most optimized.
Though, if you don't care about the camera, BlissPop or Resurrection Remix offer the most customisability & performance..

Thank you for your advice.
Typical though, the thread I'm reading through at the moment isn't one that's on your list. What do you think of XtraLite?
....Under their feature list I'm trying to find out what the 'LTE / 4G Mod' is.

I haven't used it myself..

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I haven't used it myself..
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That doesn't inspire me to use it then. You obviously know a lot more about the current roms than I do hence I'll probably go with Cloudy.
I've rooted and used custom roms from the G1 right up to getting my Nexus 4 but it's just not something I've down with my G3 F400s but I feel like I should having had it for a year now.
Which rom are you running at the moment?
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I think it would be safer to flash Cloudy first, as either XtraLite or SlickROM need a 20P ROM to be flashed first. Can't remember which one tho.
The only downside with Cloudy is that you have to flash the CTT mod after, as its are not built in...
I flashed Cloudy on mine, only received it a week ago via Aliexpress, and it's going great, but will probably try both XtraLite & SlickROM in the next few weeks to check the differences
Happy flashing

I flashed both XtraLite & SlickROM, and must say I prefer XtraLite.
The DPI fits better