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Question about rooting!

Hi,
I’m waiting for my LG G Pad 8.3 (still in the mail, should be here by the end of the week!!!) and I have a few questions about it. I plan to root it but I would like to know a few things before doing this as I’m not an expert with “rooting devices”…
1) If I root the device but not install any custom ROM or custom Recovery, will I still receive the automatic OTA update from LG? Of what I understood, if you don’t modify any “system” files, install custom ROM or Recovery, you should be able to get OTA update?
2) If I decide to install a custom ROM/Recovery and then want to go back to the stock ROM, Is it available for download? I checked (quickly) on the forum and I didn't see any link to download it (stock ROM from LG).
Thanks in advance!

PParent said:
Hi,
I’m waiting for my LG G Pad 8.3 (still in the mail, should be here by the end of the week!!!) and I have a few questions about it. I plan to root it but I would like to know a few things before doing this as I’m not an expert with “rooting devices”…
1) If I root the device but not install any custom ROM or custom Recovery, will I still receive the automatic OTA update from LG? Of what I understood, if you don’t modify any “system” files, install custom ROM or Recovery, you should be able to get OTA update?
2) If I decide to install a custom ROM/Recovery and then want to go back to the stock ROM, Is it available for download? I checked (quickly) on the forum and I didn't see any link to download it (stock ROM from LG).
Thanks in advance!
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1)you probably can not update ota on stock rooted fw. I had asked the same question to the developer of the root method for our devices and this is what he had said:
dalingrin said:
My suggestion, if you want to keep root don't take an OTA.
If you really want to stay with stock LG then you'll want to flash updates via custom recovery. The community will take the updates from LG and make them flashable with TWRP or CWM.
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2)in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554121 there are 2 methods to unbrick the gpad and revert back to full stock, both rom and recovery

katsika said:
1)you probably can not update ota on stock rooted fw. I had asked the same question to the developer of the root method for our devices and this is what he had said:
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Thanks for your reply! If the update from LG will be available for download so I can flash it, this work with me! I might not keep the stock ROM too... I never had an android device from LG so I'm not sure how it look like... If there is too much bloatware (like Samsung), I won't keep it.
katsika said:
2)in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554121 there are 2 methods to unbrick the gpad and revert back to full stock, both rom and recovery
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Just to make sure... Stock Kernel = Stock ROM? So the "LG G Pad Sock Kernel.img" is the latest version of the stock ROM from LG?

PParent said:
Thanks for your reply! If the update from LG will be available for download so I can flash it, this work with me! I might not keep the stock ROM too... I never had an android device from LG so I'm not sure how it look like... If there is too much bloatware (like Samsung), I won't keep it.
Just to make sure... Stock Kernel = Stock ROM? So the "LG G Pad Sock Kernel.img" is the latest version of the stock ROM from LG?
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There is too much bloatware in this tablet just like the Samsung ones. In my opinion the stock rom is worthy if you want maximum stability or you need the lg apps.
No, kernel with rom are different things, google rom vs kernel. The stock kernel is for people who have flashed custom kernels and want to revert back to stock. If you look in the original android development section of these forums you ll see that there are 2 custom kernels and more custom roms available for our tablet atm.

katsika said:
There is too much bloatware in this tablet just like the Samsung ones. In my opinion the stock rom is worthy if you want maximum stability or you need the lg apps.
No, kernel with rom are different things, google rom vs kernel. The stock kernel is for people who have flashed custom kernels and want to revert back to stock. If you look in the original android development section of these forums you ll see that there are 2 custom kernels and more custom roms available for our tablet atm.
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Thanks for the info! I'm not very familiar with this but I'm getting there! I'm reading related post/subject (rooting device) on the xda-developers forum so this help me a lot! I should receive my tablet tomorrow or Thursday so I'll test/inspect it to make sure everything is ok with it and than try to root it.
Did you root yours? Are you using a custom ROM on it?

PParent said:
Thanks for the info! I'm not very familiar with this but I'm getting there! I'm reading related post/subject (rooting device) on the xda-developers forum so this help me a lot! I should receive my tablet tomorrow or Thursday so I'll test/inspect it to make sure everything is ok with it and than try to root it.
Did you root yours? Are you using a custom ROM on it?
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I had rooted it when dalingrin released the adb root method as I couldn't trust the kingo root method. Adaway and titanium backup are some of the top apps but these apps need root. Also you won't be able to move apps or games to SD without root. I flashed cyanogen mod 11 some days ago and I'm totally satisfied with it. The gpad became faster, with more ram available and with less battery consumption.

katsika said:
I had rooted it when dalingrin released the adb root method as I couldn't trust the kingo root method. Adaway and titanium backup are some of the top apps but these apps need root. Also you won't be able to move apps or games to SD without root. I flashed cyanogen mod 11 some days ago and I'm totally satisfied with it. The gpad became faster, with more ram available and with less battery consumption.
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I'll use the root method of dalingrin then! I installed CM on my old device and I liked it so I might test it on my G Pad! There is no big issues with it? I know that it still in "Nightlies status so it might not be "stable". I'm looking forward to receive my G Pad!

PParent said:
I'll use the root method of dalingrin then! I installed CM on my old device and I liked it so I might test it on my G Pad! There is no big issues with it? I know that it still in "Nightlies status so it might not be "stable". I'm looking forward to receive my G Pad!
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CM runs stable on G Pad as of now. Very few features are lacking and you can check the CM thread nad if you have half an hour to spare you can go through the change log as well.
For the love of God, do not mistake a rom for a kernel. And remember that a kernel is usually made for a specific ROM. Kernels will improve performance on specific ROM's.. And enable new features under the hood and so on. But if you install a stock kernel onto a CM rom, it would be like filling a car with the wrong fuel and it would most likely get stuck in bootloop until you reflash a compatible kernel. - As stated above there are 2 custom kernels, one is ported for a few of the custom roms.. The other one as far as I know is pretty empty atm. and is aiming at becoming Play Edition-"like", I don't remember for what ROM. On certain mainstream devices you will find many a kernel and usually something that will suit your needs. Perhaps this will happen with the G Pad at some point.
Good luck on your rooting adventures and feel free to ask anything if you hit a wall at some point.

I received my G Pad yesterday! I rooted it by using the “dalingrin” method, installed TWRP and then CM11 (the stock ROM had too much bloatware for me!). Everything worked without any issue so now I can enjoy my new toys! I was hesitating between the Nexus 7 and the G Pad and I’m very happy that I chose the G Pad!
Thanks again for your replies/help guys!

PParent said:
I received my G Pad yesterday! I rooted it by using the “dalingrin” method, installed TWRP and then CM11 (the stock ROM had too much bloatware for me!). Everything worked without any issue so now I can enjoy my new toys! I was hesitating between the Nexus 7 and the G Pad and I’m very happy that I chose the G Pad!
Thanks again for your replies/help guys!
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I told you that it has too much bloatware, you did the right thing! I was also balancing between nexus 7 fhd and gpad and i picked the gpad for its 8.3" screen.

[Q] Optimus UI - Removal?

Just saw the leaked screenshots of Android L on the LG G3. Really dissapointed in the fact that you can barely tell the difference since the home screen, again, is filled with all the LG theming like Optimus UI. I was just wondering, is it possible to install Android on the device without all that? Like, near stock Android. Same goes for KitKat, is it possible?

When the bump tool is released probably. Until then depending what variant you are on no.

im on d855, im rooted but havent gone all out with customization

csassine1 said:
im on d855, im rooted but havent gone all out with customization
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I've got a d855 as well. There is a few non LG roms to try, I'm using liquid smooth at the minute and love it.

p70shooter said:
I've got a d855 as well. There is a few non LG roms to try, I'm using liquid smooth at the minute and love it.
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link me it please? and if possible a how to? not the smartest with this stuff

csassine1 said:
im on d855, im rooted but havent gone all out with customization
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If your only issue is the homescreen try a different launcher
If you want a new rom, well every rom has an how to install in the op but close to stock roms are tethered so you will have to load the kernel via fatboot every time you reboot (for now) but that should also be covered in the op's of the roms

[Q] Any KitKat 4.4.4 custom roms out there ?

Did the G3 even get 4.4.4 ?
Just searched for the term 4.4.4 but not a lot showed up in the results. Not had this G3 long, still not sure I even like it after coming from a Nexus 4 with 2 years trouble-free usage, the lag from this G3 occasionally annoys me and I feel like going back to my Nexus 4.
This is, I value xposed framework, app compatibility, and stability more than just having the latest thing. Lollipop isn't bad, chupa chups(?) Is great but not enough to give up the above.
Another thing, I still don't have any updates showing up in software updates, on 4.4.2 UK 855 G3 on 3 network, only LG ones.
So, are there any decent 4.4.4 ROMs? And would a dirty flash over 4.4.2 be OK?
Many thanks for any help.
John.

There are, as of now, no stock or custom 4.4.4 based ROMs. LG skipped 4.4.4 and went from 4.2.2(or 4.4.2, please correct me if I'm wrong)->5.0.

Went straight from 4.4.2 to 5.0

Theres the cloudyg3 rom (the previous version of the rom is kitkat) but with no further development since it went to lollipop.
You have to go with the upgrades ,i dont like myself LL but we have to move forward

I appreciate that we cannot dwell in the past but Lollipop on G3 just ain't ready for primetime, and could be many updates away from getting there. Kitkit runs better than most admit, has the best compatibility, best battery life, and has xposed.
With some tweaks, scripts installed such as the mem script, and lots of bloat removed or disabled, KitKat runs really well. And I believe there can be more done to it, more tweaks, more bloat disabled - I still see quite a few apps running that could possibly be removed.

New owner seeking advice

Hello everyone:
I am a new (used) Galaxy Note 3 owner. I bought an LG G2 3 weeks or so ago, spent that 3 weeks studying, rooting, installing recovery and finally installing and tweaking Cloudy G2 ROM. Just as I got my G2 running flawlessly it slipped from my shirt pocket as I was grilling, bounced off the grill and landed face down on the car port thus smashing the screen to pieces. :crying: What a waste of time installing that cheap screen protector the previous evening.
Anyway, I found a great deal on a used Note 3 so I went ahead and bought that rather than another G2. So now, I need to update my Note 3 just like I did the G2. Since I am running short on time at the moment I just want to get some ideas on where to start. I do intend to read everything I can on XDA but some helpful tips would really assist me with getting this finished sooner rather than later.
So....Right now the phone has stock 4.4.2 loaded and the knox counter is not tripped.
Baseband version is:N900TUVUCNB4
Security Software Version is:MDF v1.0 Release 2.
I am not at all familiar with this security stuff so any tips here on what exactly this is would be most appreciated.
My goal is:
1. root the device
2. install recovery prefer twrp but cwm will do if necessary
3. install a good ROM (Preferably Lollipop based ROM)
4. I would like to have xPosed Framework support too if possible. Of course this depends on the ROM I presume.
I have heard that Samsung Note 3 is a real bear to root. Also that the Odin software can be dangerous. I have no idea if this is true or not so please help me here.
I was also wondering whether it would be best to root the phone while on KitKat, or upgrade to stock lollipop first and then start the root/recovery process.
I'd really really appreciate all the help I can get from anyone that has owned a note 3 and has already been all through this process.
Thanks...Olin

Oh well, no replies? Man this Samsung device is rather overwhelming what with all the various scenarios. I am thinking of going with temasek's Unofficial CM12.1, or DOMPOP, or maybe Darklord. But I am still completely unsure whether to upgrade to stock Lollipop before I start on the root/recovery/ROM project. I also need to read everything I can find on these 3 roms.
But please, if you have any comments on which of these 3 ROMS is the best for the note 3 and/or comments on the best root/recovery method then by all means point me in the right direction.
Thanks so much for any help at all.

people just aren't as helpful around here as they used to be. Either that or not many use the note 3 anymore. But nevermind I figured it out anyway as I knew I eventually would.

Hey!
I'm sort of in the same boat as you..
would appreciate some feed back see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/help/nexus-4-to-note-3-questions-t3173473
Not sure if my jelly bean note is at its peak performance now.. it performs so well but i wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading

beegbear said:
Hey!
I'm sort of in the same boat as you..
would appreciate some feed back see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/help/nexus-4-to-note-3-questions-t3173473
Not sure if my jelly bean note is at its peak performance now.. it performs so well but i wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading
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Hey Beegbear:
I have decided to stay with KitKat for now because of the fact you can't use the xPosed framework on Lollipop and the fact KitKat is just a more stable platform and has many more Roms available. I used this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765014
to get my Note 3 on the newest stock KitKat rom, then root it, then install the latest TWRP recovery. I carefully followed the exact steps in this guide except that I did use a newer TWRP recovery I downloaded from: https://dl.twrp.me/hltetmo/twrp-2.8.7.0-hltetmo-4.4.img.tar
Other than using this newer TWRP I went step by step through this guide. I still plan on installing a custom KitKat rom but right now I am researching various roms to try and decide which one. But at least I have latest stock, root, and a good recovery right now.

I'd start with Tweaked. A flawless TW KK ROM. Only if unsatisfied would I bother with LP. Apparently the developer is working on an LP variant, but we'll see. He releases long after others, due to commitments, but well worth the wait. There is an xposed for LP available, but carefully research what modules work with it and compare to what you want.

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I'd start with Tweaked. A flawless TW KK ROM. Only if unsatisfied would I bother with LP. Apparently the developer is working on an LP variant, but we'll see. He releases long after others, due to commitments, but well worth the wait. There is an xposed for LP available, but carefully research what modules work with it and compare to what you want.
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Thanks a lot. You caught me just before I was about to install Hyperdrive N3 RLS7.1. I'd like to ask you what you think of this ROM?
And as for tweaked, I have come across two possible versions of a "tweaked" ROM. Tweaked ROM [Material L Theme] and TweakedN3 v3.x. Are these actually the same ROM? I'm looking around but still am not sure on this.
Thanks for your reply.
Olin

Well I "think" I have it figured out and I am in fact going to go with the Tweaked ROM, basic install procedure. Thanks so much for your advice ytj87 - I would have installed that other ROM if I had not seen your post. I may do that down the road anyway but I intend to give Tweaked a thorough test before I do. It looks great and based on forum info it seems less buggy than most of the other roms I researched.
Olin

Will probably come down to the experience you want. Tweaked is more stock with an emphasis on stability. I haven't used Hyperdrive, but when you see a ROM like that which integrates something other than the Note 3 TW UI, you're more likely to see glitches. It's the same NF9 base, though, and it has been around a while, and it looks interesting, so at some point give it a shot if curious. I personally prefer the Note 3 original UI to the S5's, so I probably won't try it.
TweakedN3 3.95. The LP themed one I haven't used.

Can l flash european .kdz on korean model?

Hello, I've recently bought a LG G3 Korean model F400s . I successfully rooted, install recovery and then went for the latest build of xposed modules.
So, now that I have some "freedom", is it possible to flash an European .kdz on my device?I say European because they are similar on specs apart from the extra ram for the Korean model.
It could also be an US .kdz if it's working...anything but Korean. I would like stock .kdz in any case.
I'm willing to try anything really and not afraid to brick it.

Hi,
No, you can't flash a EU KDZ on your device.
I'll recommended to find a custom Rom suitable for your device.
I think Cloudy had an specific Rom suitable for your device.
Regards

Thanks for your reply. Could you recommend a Rom based on stock heavily. A stock Rom?

CloudyG3, SlickROM, XtraLite

Is it possible to flash one of these and then into it so that I can use my banking app?
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AP0ll0UK said:
Is it possible to flash one of these and then into it so that I can use my banking app?
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Can you explain? Sorry, but your question doesnt make sense..

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Can you explain? Sorry, but your question doesnt make sense..
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Apologies, what I meant was can any of the above mentioned roms be installed and then can the rom be unrooted.
The reason I cant have a rooted rom is because my banking app that I regularly use won't run on a rooted device.
I have an F400s and rom updates are few and far between. Their are some niggles with the current official LG rom such as problems with dropped calls, but because it's an F400s I can't exactly ring LG and complain because the phone is an import.
I'd like to run a custom rom that has decent support but I need to be unrooted for my banking app.
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Did you try to use Root Cloak to hide root from your banking app?
Otherwise, if you flash the non-rooted ROM you lose root again..

I read some threads a while ago which suggested that the Barclays Mobile Banking rom originally worked with Root Cloak but then didn't answer never versions of the banking app were released.
I might try flashing another Rom and try Root Cloak for myself, but to be honest I don't 'need' root these days to be honest.
Out of the roms mentioned above, is there one in particular which you would recommend?

CloudyG3 is probably the best when starting off as it's the least modified.
SlickROM is the smallest in size so is probably the most optimized.
Though, if you don't care about the camera, BlissPop or Resurrection Remix offer the most customisability & performance..

Thank you for your advice.
Typical though, the thread I'm reading through at the moment isn't one that's on your list. What do you think of XtraLite?
....Under their feature list I'm trying to find out what the 'LTE / 4G Mod' is.

I haven't used it myself..

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I haven't used it myself..
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That doesn't inspire me to use it then. You obviously know a lot more about the current roms than I do hence I'll probably go with Cloudy.
I've rooted and used custom roms from the G1 right up to getting my Nexus 4 but it's just not something I've down with my G3 F400s but I feel like I should having had it for a year now.
Which rom are you running at the moment?
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I think it would be safer to flash Cloudy first, as either XtraLite or SlickROM need a 20P ROM to be flashed first. Can't remember which one tho.
The only downside with Cloudy is that you have to flash the CTT mod after, as its are not built in...
I flashed Cloudy on mine, only received it a week ago via Aliexpress, and it's going great, but will probably try both XtraLite & SlickROM in the next few weeks to check the differences
Happy flashing

I flashed both XtraLite & SlickROM, and must say I prefer XtraLite.
The DPI fits better