Hi,
I’m waiting for my LG G Pad 8.3 (still in the mail, should be here by the end of the week!!!) and I have a few questions about it. I plan to root it but I would like to know a few things before doing this as I’m not an expert with “rooting devices”…
1) If I root the device but not install any custom ROM or custom Recovery, will I still receive the automatic OTA update from LG? Of what I understood, if you don’t modify any “system” files, install custom ROM or Recovery, you should be able to get OTA update?
2) If I decide to install a custom ROM/Recovery and then want to go back to the stock ROM, Is it available for download? I checked (quickly) on the forum and I didn't see any link to download it (stock ROM from LG).
Thanks in advance!
PParent said:
Hi,
I’m waiting for my LG G Pad 8.3 (still in the mail, should be here by the end of the week!!!) and I have a few questions about it. I plan to root it but I would like to know a few things before doing this as I’m not an expert with “rooting devices”…
1) If I root the device but not install any custom ROM or custom Recovery, will I still receive the automatic OTA update from LG? Of what I understood, if you don’t modify any “system” files, install custom ROM or Recovery, you should be able to get OTA update?
2) If I decide to install a custom ROM/Recovery and then want to go back to the stock ROM, Is it available for download? I checked (quickly) on the forum and I didn't see any link to download it (stock ROM from LG).
Thanks in advance!
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1)you probably can not update ota on stock rooted fw. I had asked the same question to the developer of the root method for our devices and this is what he had said:
dalingrin said:
My suggestion, if you want to keep root don't take an OTA.
If you really want to stay with stock LG then you'll want to flash updates via custom recovery. The community will take the updates from LG and make them flashable with TWRP or CWM.
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2)in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554121 there are 2 methods to unbrick the gpad and revert back to full stock, both rom and recovery
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1)you probably can not update ota on stock rooted fw. I had asked the same question to the developer of the root method for our devices and this is what he had said:
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Thanks for your reply! If the update from LG will be available for download so I can flash it, this work with me! I might not keep the stock ROM too... I never had an android device from LG so I'm not sure how it look like... If there is too much bloatware (like Samsung), I won't keep it.
katsika said:
2)in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554121 there are 2 methods to unbrick the gpad and revert back to full stock, both rom and recovery
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Just to make sure... Stock Kernel = Stock ROM? So the "LG G Pad Sock Kernel.img" is the latest version of the stock ROM from LG?
PParent said:
Thanks for your reply! If the update from LG will be available for download so I can flash it, this work with me! I might not keep the stock ROM too... I never had an android device from LG so I'm not sure how it look like... If there is too much bloatware (like Samsung), I won't keep it.
Just to make sure... Stock Kernel = Stock ROM? So the "LG G Pad Sock Kernel.img" is the latest version of the stock ROM from LG?
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There is too much bloatware in this tablet just like the Samsung ones. In my opinion the stock rom is worthy if you want maximum stability or you need the lg apps.
No, kernel with rom are different things, google rom vs kernel. The stock kernel is for people who have flashed custom kernels and want to revert back to stock. If you look in the original android development section of these forums you ll see that there are 2 custom kernels and more custom roms available for our tablet atm.
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There is too much bloatware in this tablet just like the Samsung ones. In my opinion the stock rom is worthy if you want maximum stability or you need the lg apps.
No, kernel with rom are different things, google rom vs kernel. The stock kernel is for people who have flashed custom kernels and want to revert back to stock. If you look in the original android development section of these forums you ll see that there are 2 custom kernels and more custom roms available for our tablet atm.
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Thanks for the info! I'm not very familiar with this but I'm getting there! I'm reading related post/subject (rooting device) on the xda-developers forum so this help me a lot! I should receive my tablet tomorrow or Thursday so I'll test/inspect it to make sure everything is ok with it and than try to root it.
Did you root yours? Are you using a custom ROM on it?
PParent said:
Thanks for the info! I'm not very familiar with this but I'm getting there! I'm reading related post/subject (rooting device) on the xda-developers forum so this help me a lot! I should receive my tablet tomorrow or Thursday so I'll test/inspect it to make sure everything is ok with it and than try to root it.
Did you root yours? Are you using a custom ROM on it?
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I had rooted it when dalingrin released the adb root method as I couldn't trust the kingo root method. Adaway and titanium backup are some of the top apps but these apps need root. Also you won't be able to move apps or games to SD without root. I flashed cyanogen mod 11 some days ago and I'm totally satisfied with it. The gpad became faster, with more ram available and with less battery consumption.
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I had rooted it when dalingrin released the adb root method as I couldn't trust the kingo root method. Adaway and titanium backup are some of the top apps but these apps need root. Also you won't be able to move apps or games to SD without root. I flashed cyanogen mod 11 some days ago and I'm totally satisfied with it. The gpad became faster, with more ram available and with less battery consumption.
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I'll use the root method of dalingrin then! I installed CM on my old device and I liked it so I might test it on my G Pad! There is no big issues with it? I know that it still in "Nightlies status so it might not be "stable". I'm looking forward to receive my G Pad!
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I'll use the root method of dalingrin then! I installed CM on my old device and I liked it so I might test it on my G Pad! There is no big issues with it? I know that it still in "Nightlies status so it might not be "stable". I'm looking forward to receive my G Pad!
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CM runs stable on G Pad as of now. Very few features are lacking and you can check the CM thread nad if you have half an hour to spare you can go through the change log as well.
For the love of God, do not mistake a rom for a kernel. And remember that a kernel is usually made for a specific ROM. Kernels will improve performance on specific ROM's.. And enable new features under the hood and so on. But if you install a stock kernel onto a CM rom, it would be like filling a car with the wrong fuel and it would most likely get stuck in bootloop until you reflash a compatible kernel. - As stated above there are 2 custom kernels, one is ported for a few of the custom roms.. The other one as far as I know is pretty empty atm. and is aiming at becoming Play Edition-"like", I don't remember for what ROM. On certain mainstream devices you will find many a kernel and usually something that will suit your needs. Perhaps this will happen with the G Pad at some point.
Good luck on your rooting adventures and feel free to ask anything if you hit a wall at some point.
I received my G Pad yesterday! I rooted it by using the “dalingrin” method, installed TWRP and then CM11 (the stock ROM had too much bloatware for me!). Everything worked without any issue so now I can enjoy my new toys! I was hesitating between the Nexus 7 and the G Pad and I’m very happy that I chose the G Pad!
Thanks again for your replies/help guys!
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I received my G Pad yesterday! I rooted it by using the “dalingrin” method, installed TWRP and then CM11 (the stock ROM had too much bloatware for me!). Everything worked without any issue so now I can enjoy my new toys! I was hesitating between the Nexus 7 and the G Pad and I’m very happy that I chose the G Pad!
Thanks again for your replies/help guys!
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I told you that it has too much bloatware, you did the right thing! I was also balancing between nexus 7 fhd and gpad and i picked the gpad for its 8.3" screen.
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This is for people like me (Verizon/AT&T) who are concerned with the recent trend with these companies to make the bootloader harder to get into than Ft. Knox on the GS5.
I'm on an HTC One XL and have tried to catch up a little but for those coming from the G2 to the G3 are you concerned about the inablity to flash custom kernals? From what I gathered the exploit was to downgrade firmware to pre 4.4.2 in order to gain access and seeing how the G3 won't know anything other than 4.4.2 is there reason to be concerned that there won't be any rooting?
I wouldn't mind about not having immediate kernel/ROM support, all I want is root and the ability to tether!
geoff5093 said:
I wouldn't mind about not having immediate kernel/ROM support, all I want is root and the ability to tether!
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I agree 100% I've been a Samsung guy for a while now, but the inability to even root Verizon's S5 is turning me away. Give me the ability to root, remove bloat and make subtle adjustments at my discretion and I'm happy. To be able to flash ROMs and kernels and I'm that much happier!
Same, all I want is tether!!
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Mods, There is a similar thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764187 maybe merge the two? I wasn't sure which to post this in but,
Coming off 2 generations of HTC phones and leaning toward the G3, I'm wondering about updates after root. With HTC, if you rooted your phone you had to use a custom ROM, even if it was a stock custom ROM to ever get updates. If you over the air updated, you could loose root. Is that how it would work with LG? What would be the point of rooting an LG if you can't unlock the bootloader? Would you be stuck with a rooted phone that never receives any updates?
flyhighx said:
Mods, There is a similar thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764187 maybe merge the two? I wasn't sure which to post this in but,
Coming off 2 generations of HTC phones and leaning toward the G3, I'm wondering about updates after root. With HTC, if you rooted your phone you had to use a custom ROM, even if it was a stock custom ROM to ever get updates. If you over the air updated, you could loose root. Is that how it would work with LG? What would be the point of rooting an LG if you can't unlock the bootloader? Would you be stuck with a rooted phone that never receives any updates?
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Thats how it worked with the LG Flex; if you were rooted, you have to restore to factory stock, then get the update...fortunately, you could root while on 4.2, then get the OTA update to 4.4. But there is no custom recovery and no roms for 4.4, so at this point, there is zero dev going on for that phone, except what might be going on behind the scenes..
The G3 should be more popular, so hopefully with more people working on bypassing the LG security scheme, it might not be as horrible; but we waited 6 months from release to just get root, so who knows..
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Thats how it worked with the LG Flex; if you were rooted, you have to restore to factory stock, then get the update...fortunately, you could root while on 4.2, then get the OTA update to 4.4. But there is no custom recovery and no roms for 4.4, so at this point, there is zero dev going on for that phone, except what might be going on behind the scenes..
The G3 should be more popular, so hopefully with more people working on bypassing the LG security scheme, it might not be as horrible; but we waited 6 months from release to just get root, so who knows..
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have you looked in the development threads there are custom recoveries and 4.4 roms and the develpment for the g2 is alive and kicking not sure where you are coming from
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have you looked in the development threads there are custom recoveries and 4.4 roms and the develpment for the g2 is alive and kicking not sure where you are coming from
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here's where I am coming from..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-flex
ah i see its a little quieter in the gflex section in g2 there are loads of custom stuff i initially thought you were on a g2 my fault for not looking at your sig properly! im sure it will get much better in time the g2 was very quiet for a while untill everyone realised what a good phone it is.it takes time for workarounds and there will be problems but stick with it as the g flex is a great phone.
im on a ukd802 g2
g3 theme and icons
4.4.2 g flex rom (cloudyfa's 2.3 )
savocas latest kernel
hid3rs ui quick settings mod,exposed.
a "little" quieter?
no roms, no recovery,(for kitkat), and the phone has been out 7 months...
the dev's who have tried just cant get that phone to co operate; hopefully, since that was the "latest" LG flagship, whatever measures they used to make it impossible to mod, will NOT be used in the G3..
getting root on the LG G2 has never really been an issue. The bootloader has never been unlocked but it has been bypassed so flashing roms / kernels is not a problem. I would predict that the LG G3 will be similar. But the problem has been that most AOSP ROM's have had issues (and the AOSP camera just sucks) and while i have tried several, I kept coming back to stock G2 ROM Derivatives with xposd, hotspot hacks and nova launcher. I need a stable phone with a good camera (got two kids and my phone is main source of pics / videos) and a hacked hotspot (I am on Verizon w/unlimited data and would need to pay for tethering) more than anything.
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getting root on the LG G2 has never really been an issue. The bootloader has never been unlocked but it has been bypassed so flashing roms / kernels is not a problem. I would predict that the LG G3 will be similar. But the problem has been that most AOSP ROM's have had issues (and the AOSP camera just sucks) and while i have tried several, I kept coming back to stock G2 ROM Derivatives with xposd, hotspot hacks and nova launcher. I need a stable phone with a good camera (got two kids and my phone is main source of pics / videos) and a hacked hotspot (I am on Verizon w/unlimited data and would need to pay for tethering) more than anything.
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I'm not completely sure but I think you need the bootloader to be unlocked to flash custom kernels. I could be wrong though.
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@puothy have you tried houstonn's PA its buttery smooth really fast and battery life is amazing. You should check it out it is the most stable ROM out there for the g2
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I'm not completely sure but I think you need the bootloader to be unlocked to flash custom kernels. I could be wrong though.
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@puothy have you tried houstonn's PA its buttery smooth really fast and battery life is amazing. You should check it out it is the most stable ROM out there for the g2
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Bootloader is locked, however loki bypasses the bootloader which allows for custom ROMs/kernels.
puothy said:
getting root on the LG G2 has never really been an issue. The bootloader has never been unlocked but it has been bypassed so flashing roms / kernels is not a problem. I would predict that the LG G3 will be similar.
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Bootloader is locked, however loki bypasses the bootloader which allows for custom ROMs/kernels.
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For the G2, LG patched the loki exploit for Kit Kat. Therefore, the only way to get custom recovery and custom kernels for Kit Kat on the G2 is to downgrade the bootloader to a loki-susceptible one (ie: from Jellybean). The Kit Kat bootloader has not been unlocked. This works for the G2 because it previously had a loki-susceptible bootloader.
But the G3 will never have had a bootloader that can be exploited by loki that can be downgraded to, so so far it doesn't look too good. Looks like root can be achieved, but the real question is custom recovery/kernels/etc.
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For the G2, LG patched the loki exploit for Kit Kat. Therefore, the only way to get custom recovery and custom kernels for Kit Kat on the G2 is to downgrade the bootloader to a loki-susceptible one (ie: from Jellybean). The Kit Kat bootloader has not been unlocked. This works for the G2 because it previously had a loki-susceptible bootloader.
But the G3 will never have had a bootloader that can be exploited by loki that can be downgraded to, so so far it doesn't look too good. Looks like root can be achieved, but the real question is custom recovery/kernels/etc.
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They have looked at the bootloader and said it looks the same as the one in the g2 and flex .... They can probably patch it like they have
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Hello Guys
I want to ask you a question and i want your opinion for that, i have an At&T Optimus G Pro E980 and it running the stock 4.4.2 firmware so im asking if you advice me to install a custom rom on it instead of that At&T Rom, and FYI i dont use any of the At&T Apps that are pre-installed with the firmware, so what do you think guys?
thanks in advance...
Thats a decision you need to make in your own because your going to get both answers here..... Give one a shot and if you don't like it go back to stock.... I personally run stock most of the time with xposed modules running to get a very themed and customized stock feel.... Good luck
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shayneflashindaily said:
Thats a decision you need to make in your own because your going to get both answers here..... Give one a shot and if you don't like it go back to stock.... I personally run stock most of the time with xposed modules running to get a very themed and customized stock feel.... Good luck
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shayneflashindaily Thanks
but can you post the link for a stock rom?
You mean custom ROM? You need to get rooted first if you haven't done so already. Then flash the recovery. Do all that then you can think about custom or modified stock ROM, I.e. With xposed mod you can change the look of your stock ROM. There are two official releases of custom ROM for optimus g pro that I know of vanir and cyanogenmod. The link for cm11 is cyanogenmod.org
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I'm sure someone has asked this question already, so please forgive me if I'm repeating... I have successfully rooted my G pad 8.3 Verizon LTE version... Is there a way to install a recovery and flash custom roms? I really want to put something like a pure Google experience like lollipop on this tablet... If someone would give me a few links, etc., I would really appreciate it...
I'm running 4.4.2 on VK81022B...
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I'm sure someone has asked this question already, so please forgive me if I'm repeating... I have successfully rooted my G pad 8.3 Verizon LTE version... Is there a way to install a recovery and flash custom roms? I really want to put something like a pure Google experience like lollipop on this tablet... If someone would give me a few links, etc., I would really appreciate it...
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We have TWRP for the verizon G Pad, link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726707 , but we do not have any custom roms for it yet, when I get time I was hoping to try and port a lollipop rom but have been too busy to even start...best thing to do if you want cleaner experience is root, install TWRP so you can make a backup before you start modding, and use titanium backup or something similar (I use both TB and Root Uninstaller) and uninstall or freeze all the verizon bloat they put on it.
Yeah I've removed bloat. Thanks for response. I will look forward to this eventually having custom roms available.
hello,
I want to change me ROM (if it is advised).
I have the LG G3 D855 (3gb ram 32 gb) with stock firmware.
There are too many ROMs to choose from and no knowledge about it
Thank You
RebliNk17 said:
hello,
I want to change me ROM (if it is advised).
I have the LG G3 D855 (3gb ram 32 gb) with stock firmware.
There are too many ROMs to choose from and no knowledge about it
Thank You
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CloudyG3 is an excellent rom. Very fast and fluid
while searching for the cloudyg3 i found a post about the v20p.
someone said that the v20p is better than the cloudyG3.
what do you think?
thanks ahead.
RebliNk17 said:
while searching for the cloudyg3 i found a post about the v20p.
someone said that the v20p is better than the cloudyG3.
what do you think?
thanks ahead.
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He will probably update cloudyg3's base to v20p so no worries.
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He will probably update cloudyg3's base to v20p so no worries.
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if he'll update. will i need to reinstall my phone data all over again?
Ive got a stock rooted 20P rom installed and it runs flawlessly, i think out of all the stock roms this is the most fluid and has the most free ram on average. Cloudys rom hasnt been updated since he used 20i as a base and theres been other stock releases since then, im not sure he will create a 20P based rom unless there is a demand for it and nothing has been stated on his rom thread.
My personal favourite is Paranoid Android 5.1. It's been quite stable so far and I'm definitely enjoying AOSP more than LG's stock ROM.
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if he'll update. will i need to reinstall my phone data all over again?
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Probably not. But it's good to have some fresh installs now and then just to keep things clean and running smoothly.
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My personal favourite is Paranoid Android 5.1. It's been quite stable so far and I'm definitely enjoying AOSP more than LG's stock ROM.
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do you have a guide for installing Paranoid Android?
I can't find a good one
RebliNk17 said:
do you have a guide for installing Paranoid Android?
I can't find a good one
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This method is for LG G3 D855 only.
First you’ll have to downgrade to KitKat (I advise using the KDZ method): Here
Root your device: Here
Flash TWRP: Here
Download the necessary content: ROM / Gapps / SU
Then boot into recovery mode, do a factory reset, flash ROM --> Gapps --> SU. When thats done, boot your device up and you should be ready to go.
Keaganvdh said:
This method is for LG G3 D855 only.
First you’ll have to downgrade to KitKat (I advise using the KDZ method): Here
Root your device: Here
Flash TWRP: Here
Download the necessary content: ROM / Gapps / SU
Then boot into recovery mode, do a factory reset, flash ROM --> Gapps --> SU. When thats done, boot your device up and you should be ready to go.
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thank you,
i did all that but the PA has lots of bugs
i guess ill wait to better version
but thanks alot
i think that it depens on very much things... for examply.. i jumped to G3 from SGS3 and in G3 I miss a few things from SGS3 (full log, call/sms feature from log, brightness settings - in G3 is very stupid, etc) but in stock rom there are many things which i miss for example in CM ROMs... qslide, slowmo, multiwindow, qickmemo, timed send of SMS.... it depends very on ROM and what do you want.... i saw th "best" phones and want to combine it in G3 and I am afraid it would be long journey for me
Almost all AOSP /CM based rom have bugs in current stage.
If you are looking for most stable rom, LG stock V20P rom is what you want.
Hello, I've recently bought a LG G3 Korean model F400s . I successfully rooted, install recovery and then went for the latest build of xposed modules.
So, now that I have some "freedom", is it possible to flash an European .kdz on my device?I say European because they are similar on specs apart from the extra ram for the Korean model.
It could also be an US .kdz if it's working...anything but Korean. I would like stock .kdz in any case.
I'm willing to try anything really and not afraid to brick it.
Hi,
No, you can't flash a EU KDZ on your device.
I'll recommended to find a custom Rom suitable for your device.
I think Cloudy had an specific Rom suitable for your device.
Regards
Thanks for your reply. Could you recommend a Rom based on stock heavily. A stock Rom?
CloudyG3, SlickROM, XtraLite
Is it possible to flash one of these and then into it so that I can use my banking app?
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Is it possible to flash one of these and then into it so that I can use my banking app?
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Can you explain? Sorry, but your question doesnt make sense..
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Can you explain? Sorry, but your question doesnt make sense..
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Apologies, what I meant was can any of the above mentioned roms be installed and then can the rom be unrooted.
The reason I cant have a rooted rom is because my banking app that I regularly use won't run on a rooted device.
I have an F400s and rom updates are few and far between. Their are some niggles with the current official LG rom such as problems with dropped calls, but because it's an F400s I can't exactly ring LG and complain because the phone is an import.
I'd like to run a custom rom that has decent support but I need to be unrooted for my banking app.
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Did you try to use Root Cloak to hide root from your banking app?
Otherwise, if you flash the non-rooted ROM you lose root again..
I read some threads a while ago which suggested that the Barclays Mobile Banking rom originally worked with Root Cloak but then didn't answer never versions of the banking app were released.
I might try flashing another Rom and try Root Cloak for myself, but to be honest I don't 'need' root these days to be honest.
Out of the roms mentioned above, is there one in particular which you would recommend?
CloudyG3 is probably the best when starting off as it's the least modified.
SlickROM is the smallest in size so is probably the most optimized.
Though, if you don't care about the camera, BlissPop or Resurrection Remix offer the most customisability & performance..
Thank you for your advice.
Typical though, the thread I'm reading through at the moment isn't one that's on your list. What do you think of XtraLite?
....Under their feature list I'm trying to find out what the 'LTE / 4G Mod' is.
I haven't used it myself..
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I haven't used it myself..
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That doesn't inspire me to use it then. You obviously know a lot more about the current roms than I do hence I'll probably go with Cloudy.
I've rooted and used custom roms from the G1 right up to getting my Nexus 4 but it's just not something I've down with my G3 F400s but I feel like I should having had it for a year now.
Which rom are you running at the moment?
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I think it would be safer to flash Cloudy first, as either XtraLite or SlickROM need a 20P ROM to be flashed first. Can't remember which one tho.
The only downside with Cloudy is that you have to flash the CTT mod after, as its are not built in...
I flashed Cloudy on mine, only received it a week ago via Aliexpress, and it's going great, but will probably try both XtraLite & SlickROM in the next few weeks to check the differences
Happy flashing
I flashed both XtraLite & SlickROM, and must say I prefer XtraLite.
The DPI fits better