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Will triangle away work on note 3

Anyone try triangle away to reset the binary counter after rooting/flashing the pre rooted roms or does the ap need its code updated?
Thanks.
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Not yet he is working on it
TWEAKED 2.5

Hes the man it'll only be a matter of a few days before it's working, thanks for the info bro.
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Ok there was an update to triangle away that added note 3 but it says sadly there's no counter reset yet it won't be long though chainfire is the man!
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dawgboy1783 said:
Ok there was an update to triangle away that added note 3 but it says sadly there's no counter reset yet it won't be long though chainfire is the man!
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If you check the changelog for triangle away, it looks like it's not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30249357&postcount=5
Changelogs
04.10.2013 - v3.10
- Added "system" state display, if available on device
- Added Note3 device details, sadly no reset possible

useltonm said:
If you check the changelog for triangle away, it looks like it's not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30249357&postcount=5
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04.10.2013 - v3.10
- Added "system" state display, if available on device
- Added Note3 device details, sadly no reset possible
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Yeah bummer but I still think someone will bust it though just give it time.
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dawgboy1783 said:
Yeah bummer but I still think someone will bust it though just give it time.
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I really hope they can too as I just got back from picking up my note 3. I really want to root this thing but am going to stay stock for a bit to see if maybe someone can figure something out.
I'm not hopeful though because from what I've read it trips an efuse on root or flash of an custom bootloader. There is however a guy on Google plus(commenting on chainfire's post about knox) that is claiming that knox will reset if you replace the emmc.
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useltonm said:
I really hope they can too as I just got back from picking up my note 3. I really want to root this thing but am going to stay stock for a bit to see if maybe someone can figure something out.
I'm not hopeful though because from what I've read it trips an efuse on root or flash of an custom bootloader. There is however a guy on Google plus(commenting on chainfire's post about knox) that is claiming that knox will reset if you replace the emmc.
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I have faith in XDA and the Devs they never cease to amaze these guys will have it figured out soon :fingers-crossed: its only been 12 days since the Note 3 release I'd say at least a couple months in and we will have proper root without knox trip hopefully sooner because my flashing finger is getting twitchy ad itchy
Thank you XDA,DEVS,Moderators and community Phones would be boring without all of you!

dawgboy1783 said:
I have faith in XDA and the Devs they never cease to amaze these guys will have it figured out soon :fingers-crossed: its only been 12 days since the Note 3 release I'd say at least a couple months in and we will have proper root without knox trip hopefully sooner because my flashing finger is getting twitchy ad itchy
Thank you XDA,DEVS,Moderators and community Phones would be boring without all of you!
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It's not that I don't have faith in the developers, but there will come a point where they will be unable to hack security restrictions such as knox. They may not be able to come up with a workaround to prevent blowing the efuse that trips the knox warranty void. This isn't a knock on developers because these guys are very talented. It's just the reality of having interest in a technology that companies are looking to make more secure. The more holes that developers exploit, the more secure android gets. It's the nature of the game.
If you haven't owned a Motorola device any time recently take a peek at their forums. They have those things locked down pretty tight. The Bionic had a locked bootloader, but was able to be rooted. When it received the last ota, djrbliss released a root exploit for it that had to be done in Linux (or a Linux VM). It's not possible to do in Windows. It is my understanding that djrbliss had retired from releasing root exploits because they have become so much more difficult to work around (I think it also had to do with people not paying attention to directions and a sense of entitlement...).
We are lucky because we have a device with an unlocked bootloader. Those with devices on AT&T and Verizon who have locked down devices won't always be so lucky. And we won't be if they continue to increase the level of security for us also.
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Stop buying Samsung products! ...Web Boycot!
I just sent the following mesage to Samsung:
"I bought the Note 2 when it first came out in 2012. I would like to replace it with the Note 3. BUT Samsung has made it impossible to reset the flash counter (with Triangle Away for example). So I can not, for example, use the Allshare Cast dongle with a rooted Note 3. This is unacceptable policy. I will not buy another Samsung device (of any kind) until Samsung eliminates this restrictive policy. So there is a $700 sale lost. Multiply that loss by thousands and ask yourselves if you are pursuing the right customer friendly policy with this restriction. "
I ask othes to send a similar message to Samsung. Lets start a Web Boycot over this isue!
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact
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It's not that I don't have faith in the developers, but there will come a point where they will be unable to hack security restrictions such as knox. They may not be able to come up with a workaround to prevent blowing the efuse that trips the knox warranty void. This isn't a knock on developers because these guys are very talented. It's just the reality of having interest in a technology that companies are looking to make more secure. The more holes that developers exploit, the more secure android gets. It's the nature of the game.
If you haven't owned a Motorola device any time recently take a peek at their forums. They have those things locked down pretty tight. The Bionic had a locked bootloader, but was able to be rooted. When it received the last ota, djrbliss released a root exploit for it that had to be done in Linux (or a Linux VM). It's not possible to do in Windows. It is my understanding that djrbliss had retired from releasing root exploits because they have become so much more difficult to work around (I think it also had to do with people not paying attention to directions and a sense of entitlement...).
We are lucky because we have a device with an unlocked bootloader. Those with devices on AT&T and Verizon who have locked down devices won't always be so lucky. And we won't be if they continue to increase the level of security for us also.
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Wow, so all of us who root are 100% screwed if our devices develop an issue. Wow

MattMJB0188 said:
Wow, so all of us who root are 100% screwed if our devices develop an issue. Wow
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No you're not screwed you can return the device to factory rom for warranty return . if you're not willing to learn how to do this simple procedure then don't root but of course root give you so much more functionality . root is really a basic necessity in my opinion and manufacturers should not be preventing this . we pay serious money to own these devices and we should be able to use them as we see fit.

Meditating_Apes said:
No you're not screwed you can return the device to factory rom for warranty return . if you're not willing to learn how to do this simple procedure then don't root but of course root give you so much more functionality . root is really a basic necessity in my opinion and manufacturers should not be preventing this . we pay serious money to own these devices and we should be able to use them as we see fit.
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Even if you go back to stock, if you tripped the Knox flag it's not going back to 0x0 that is going to stay 0x1 which displays warranty void.
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parusia said:
Even if you go back to stock, if you tripped the Knox flag it's not going back to 0x0 that is going to stay 0x1 which displays warranty void.
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Exactly. For the hell of it, I flashed back to stock and entered download mode after everything was intact. It read 0x1, which means the warranty is completely void. So I said screw it and am going to return it to T-Mobile. Absolutely ridiculous that my $700 toy has no warranty protection. Not worth it in my book, sorry galaxy fan boys lol.
I will be e-mailing Samsung about this. If the Note 3 didn't have such poor sound out of the box, I wouldn't have to flash a custom rom.

MattMJB0188 said:
Exactly. For the hell of it, I flashed back to stock and entered download mode after everything was intact. It read 0x1, which means the warranty is completely void. So I said screw it and am going to return it to T-Mobile. Absolutely ridiculous that my $700 toy has no warranty protection. Not worth it in my book, sorry galaxy fan boys lol.
I will be e-mailing Samsung about this. If the Note 3 didn't have such poor sound out of the box, I wouldn't have to flash a custom rom.
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I'll hold off on my root on my new N3. I have faith in Chainfire.
And has nothing to do with "fan boys". The N3 is in incredible piece of hardware. Don't think for a sec this will only stay with Samsung. Soon all mfg's will have this....watch. It's just a matter of time until the talented devs will find a way to get past it. Then, an even better phone (HTC,Sam, etc) will come out with even more of a roadblock.

Is the Knox flag will Tripped even if I didn't install the Knox app? This is the first device I am scared to root it.
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Yes you flash anything and it will trip Knox. That being said if all you want is root. Use root De last vega. Be mindful I'd you fish twrp it will trip Knox
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[Q] Root imediately or wait?

Can anyone give me their opinions rooting right away vs waiting? I'm coming from a 2 generation ago HTC with root and unlocked bootloader, s-off. I'd hate to delay rooting but I'm wondering how things have gone lately in the Samsung world.
-If I wait, will there likely be another method of rooting that would somehow be better than Chainfire's current method? (Won't trip knox or void warranty or something along those lines)?
-Would I be better off taking any OTA's that are available upon getting the phone before rooting or could those OTA's prevent root if I take them?
Any other reason why someone might delay rooting?

I personally probably will root it if a method is available (haven't verified yet.)
Primary reason being is to make transferring from my previous phone a lot less painless with titanium backup.
Or maybe I won't, because it won't be long before I'd want to flash a custom debloated rom.
Decisions decisions...

the only reason to wait is you want to maintain your warranty. If you pretty good with figuring out issues, it may not be an issue.
Me, 99% I'm not waiting. If I have time, it''ll be one of the first things I do. If not, I'll do it following day.

I enjoy Samsung devices but they usually leave me no choice but to root to remove some of the bloat that I don't really want. So for me it will happen once a cf auto root occurs!

There is no root for sprint yet. Big freaking bummer.

I wouldn't worry about that at all. Chainfire has already released CF Root for like seven different models of the Note 4 - Exynos and Snapdragon models. I would give it a day or a few after official release of our Note 4 until we have root.
And anyways back to the OP - I will be rooting as soon as I get my phone and charge it to full haha. I'm going to need to erase like a million apk's from /system to get rid of plenty of the carrier and Samsung bloat.
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Bah to root, im going to be busy working on recovery, to me thats far more important

as much as im gonna hate moving to a new device not having root i think i am going to hold off on root till a method that does not trip knox is introduced. Or a way to use the samsung dongle with knox tripped is introduced. I don't care about warranty but the limit to use accessories is a game stopper for me. I mean with knox flag stop the VR glasses from working. to many unknowns right now.

shabbypenguin said:
Bah to root, im going to be busy working on recovery, to me thats far more important
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Does that mean we can expect some custom ROMs from you?
Not too shabby

filebug said:
... a way to use the samsung dongle with knox tripped is introduced. ... but the limit to use accessories is a ... with knox flag stop the VR glasses from working ...
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It that really true. If the knox is trigger using accessories such as the VR or Galaxy Gear watches won't work? What the heck? I thought knox was introduced by corporate people to have a more secure phone. Although the rooted use is a small portion of people, just seen short sighted to me.

I just rooted everything works good so far, used t-mobile's root with no issues.

shanda5303 said:
I just rooted everything works good so far, used t-mobile's root with no issues.
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anyone else?

lovekeiiy said:
It that really true. If the knox is trigger using accessories such as the VR or Galaxy Gear watches won't work? What the heck? I thought knox was introduced by corporate people to have a more secure phone. Although the rooted use is a small portion of people, just seen short sighted to me.
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It is for corporate security, not sure where he got all that "additional" info from.

Systom said:
anyone else?
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I second this. I used T Mobile's root From Chainfire with no problems. All root apps work great. Everything works as it should.

Systom said:
anyone else?
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Confirmed. The root located below seems to work on our Sprint phones.
http://download.chainfire.eu/571/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root-trltetmo-trltetmo-smn910t.zip
I'm hoping I can download the full ROM before I start whacking up my system.

So I imagine this root method will trip knox right?

kosmo42o said:
So I imagine this root method will trip knox right?
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Yes

you dont say ???
shanda5303 said:
I just rooted everything works good so far, used t-mobile's root with no issues.
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And which model is your note ??

Successfully rooted on the sprint note 4 using the tmobile auto root!

shanda5303 said:
I just rooted everything works good so far, used t-mobile's root with no issues.
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Yep, works fine. TB is restoring my apps as I type this. Just choose "Normal" for SuperSU to update the binary. Don't forget to install the FixSD app to allow the correct writing permissions that they talk about in the T-Mobile forum.

[Q] Root Questions (now and later)

Hello. I guess I have a few random questions regarding root on this device. I won't bore you with pleasantries. Here are the questions:
1) What do you think the possibility of root is with this device (bounty and all)? I mean, honestly. I'm not just talking hopefulness. Do you really think it'll get root? Root means a lot to me. I enjoy everything that you can do with it. Not having it is sort of bumming me out. It's the first Android phone I've not had root on. And I really am loving the Note 4. I don't want to go to a Nexus 6 JUST for root, ya know?
2) Is root going to go away in the future (in general)? It seems like the carriers are getting very serious about locking everything down. Android L is supposed to make it even MORE difficult to exploit vulnerabilities.
Anyway, I guess that's it. Any thoughts you have about anything I mentioned above is welcomed. I mean this question to be more of a discussion than anything else.
Thanks for all of your responses.
-T

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Well I see this question / discussion is going over well, lol.

The Galaxy line is by far the hugest force in Android, its development community is massive. That said, we're a spin off Galaxy phone, and a carrier specific. I've been with Android phones and the Galaxy line since its inception, and if nothing else, the one thing that always hold true is; we always find a way. There may be a day when OEMs and Carriers can go toe to toe with XDA, but that day won't be today. We'll have root soon.
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That was an awesome response! It was like a halftime speech. I am ready to run through a brick AT&T wall!
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1.) Root on KitKat will be found. It's just a matter of time and effort.
2.) Root on Android L is going to be a different story. Once this phone is upgraded to lollipop it will be impossible to root without an unlocked boot loader. This is because of the new implementation of SELinux, which will require a custom kernel in order to maintain root access during the boot of the device. At least this is what Chainfire had stated. Therefore people need to focus on the boot loader NOT root.
Also definitely don't upgrade to lollipop until the borrower has been unlocked otherwise you may be SOL.
Just my 2 cents.
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[Q] General question about rooting history?

So i know AT&T and Verizon users are not able to root their devices at this point! Has it ever been like this for devices Like S4,S5,Note 3 etc?.... If so, did they take a long time to get rooted too?....
it seems AT&T and Verizon pay more to their software developers to make this harder for everyone!!!!....

in short; no.
bootloaders have started to be locked down more over time on att/vzn but nothing major till of late. the s5 is actually rooted already, so only the note 4 is left. if the note 4 never gets root it'll be the first major flagship to go rootless.

I remember the s4 was out for about 2 months before we got root by having a bootloader patch tricking it (loki) but shortly after it was updated over for the later of bootloader phones...now they use run safestrap and still can't get any non TouchWiz rom I was one of the lucky ones who froze the updater apps before they automatically pushed it
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greekunit690 said:
I remember the s4 was out for about 2 months before we got root by having a bootloader patch tricking it (loki) but shortly after it was updated over for the later of bootloader phones...now they use run safestrap and still can't get any non TouchWiz rom I was one of the lucky ones who froze the updater apps before they automatically pushed it
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I think you may be confusing root with unlocked bootloader. root was achieved before the phone even came out, the bootloader wasnt unlocked till a week or two after, but wasn't released so Verizon couldn't patch it yet. that way verizon ppl could have an unlocked bootloader on their phone as well.
root has ALWAYS been something we had.
I dislike locked bootloaders, but can get over it, root is just so **** necessary for BASIC functionality..

what I dont get is why more manufacturers wont take a page out of HTC's (or was it Moto?) book and allow people to unlock the bootloader from a website. If you agree to void the warranty, why not allow people to do that...

soraxd said:
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I dislike locked bootloaders, but can get over it, root is just so **** necessary for BASIC functionality..
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this. i've been holding off on the note4 to see when root arrives. if root doesn't come out before nex6 release i'm going to have to jump ship...which is too bad...would lose functionality going that route but lack of root trumps all else...

con_ritmo said:
this. i've been holding off on the note4 to see when root arrives. if root doesn't come out before nex6 release i'm going to have to jump ship...which is too bad...would lose functionality going that route but lack of root trumps all else...
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Idk...I've rooted every phone I've had and for the first time I don't necessarily need it as of right now
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ok2nvnexus said:
Idk...I've rooted every phone I've had and for the first time I don't necessarily need it as of right now
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Same here. Of course I would prefer being able to root it, but I think I could deal with the scenario of that not happening ever, I really like this phone that much!

It's been great even without root, but there are just a couple things I'd like to change. For example I hate the emojis on here (prefer the standard hangouts emoji) and I could easily fix that with root. Other than that I can live with the phone as is. I do miss some Xposed modules though

The things I'm missing that require root:
Titanium Backup
AdAway
Being able to modify my DPI
Avast Anti-Theft
Pretty sure there's more but those are what I can think of off the top of my head...

Kyuta Syuko said:
The things I'm missing that require root:
Titanium Backup
AdAway
Being able to modify my DPI
Avast Anti-Theft
Pretty sure there's more but those are what I can think of off the top of my head...
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I'd like to have those options as well but, like the others have stated, I like this phone so much that I could easily get used to not having root. I pledged and hope someone finds an exploit but I am loving this phone as is.
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ug deal breaker... for now...
yea im in the same boat as a lot of people who need root for Ti Backup so all my game saves and what not... kinda a bummer.... I guess ill have to wait a bit longer for the upgrade... or maybe pick up a S5 instead...

b3asty said:
I'd like to have those options as well but, like the others have stated, I like this phone so much that I could easily get used to not having root. I pledged and hope someone finds an exploit but I am loving this phone as is.
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Yeah I'm loving this phone, but if root is unachievable I might have to sell it and get a T-Mobile version...

If you tripped Knox, no Samsung Pay for you.

http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-pay-not-supported-on-knox-tripped-devices/
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/24/samsung-pay-wont-work-on-rooted-devices/
Whatever... I carry my wallet with me everywhere anyway! Root was so worth it lol.

You might want to experiment with it thou. When will someone provide us with an open, unlucked bootloader like t-mobile device?
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asafegous said:
You might want to experiment with it thou. When will someone provide us with an open, unlucked bootloader like t-mobile device?
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What you talkin bout Willis?? Sprint's GS6 bootloader is unlocked. Why do you think we are able to root so easily?

http://www.xda-developers.com/root-t-mobile-s6edge-on-5-1-1-without-tripping-knox/
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http://www.xda-developers.com/root-t-mobile-s6edge-on-5-1-1-without-tripping-knox/
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Dude, how many threads you going to post this in? It's old news - Tmobile got access to a leaked engineering bootloader a while ago. That engeneering bootloader is something that has to be leaked, not something can be developed. In fact Samsung themselves reached out to xda to have those leaked files removed (check their root thread). Sprint will not betting access to a Sprint engineering bootloader. It's just not going to happen.

I do believe that sprint has one for the same reason t-mobile has one (repairs). If we collectively shmooz the sprint repair shops, we might find one, no?
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asafegous said:
I do believe that sprint has one for the same reason t-mobile has one (repairs). If we collectively shmooz the sprint repair shops, we might find one, no?
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Anything's possible, soooperstar in the sprint s6edge threads says he's got an engineering bootloader and is looking for testers if you wanna be a guinea pig.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3158902

Thoughts on Android Pay?
Has anybody been looking at Google's Android pay? Should be for a larger number of phones, I'd be more likely to use this than a Samsung solution.
I bring it up because it makes the issue of tripping Knox irrelevant, at least to me.
https://www.android.com/intl/en_us/pay/

koop1955 said:
Has anybody been looking at Google's Android pay? Should be for a larger number of phones, I'd be more likely to use this than a Samsung solution.
I bring it up because it makes the issue of tripping Knox irrelevant, at least to me.
https://www.android.com/intl/en_us/pay/
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The thing is.... Android Pay relies on NFC, so the vendors have to implement that. Samsung Pay works anywhere without any extra vendor implementation.

JoeFCaputo113 said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-pay-not-supported-on-knox-tripped-devices/
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/24/samsung-pay-wont-work-on-rooted-devices/
Whatever... I carry my wallet with me everywhere anyway! Root was so worth it lol.
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So which is it? Will it not work on rooted devices or knox tripped devices? If being rooted is the issue, can't we just unroot and then be able to use it?

I Brick Phones said:
So which is it? Will it not work on rooted devices or knox tripped devices? If being rooted is the issue, can't we just unroot and then be able to use it?
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The current means of gaining root is to use a custom kernel. Installing that kernel, any kernel other than stock, trips Knox. So at this time any rooted device has tripped Knox and unrooting won't change that.

koop1955 said:
The current means of gaining root is to use a custom kernel. Installing that kernel, any kernel other than stock, trips Knox. So at this time any rooted device has tripped Knox and unrooting won't change that.
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How is that, does PingPong root not work anymore? My S6 is rooted without tripping Knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...ot-tripping-knox-sprint-s6-supported-t3103196

I Brick Phones said:
How is that, does PingPong root not work anymore? My S6 is rooted without tripping Knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...ot-tripping-knox-sprint-s6-supported-t3103196
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Won't work if you accept the upgrade to 5.1.1. See post #2 in the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6/general/how-to-to-100-stock-root-t3075448

koop1955 said:
Won't work if you accept the upgrade to 5.1.1. See post #2 in the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6/general/how-to-to-100-stock-root-t3075448
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I've heard that its basically impossible to downgrade to 5.0.2 if you've upgraded. So basically anyone who upgraded to 5.1.1 is stuck? Is it just a waiting game now and hoping for a lucky break on 5.1.1 to find/develop a kernel that won't trip knox?

Ive had enough of a 4 hour battery. Im rooting this device and tripping the knox tonight. If i feel like paying for something with a phone, ill run out and buy an iphone.
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Does tripping Knox break just samsung pay or does it affect other apps like Google wallet?
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Try signing my petition to allow rooted users to use Samsung Pay
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-allow-people-with-rooted-phones-to-use-samsung-pay

whymoo said:
Try signing my petition to allow rooted users to use Samsung Pay
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-allow-people-with-rooted-phones-to-use-samsung-pay
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That's sooo worthless and a waste of time. Root= not secure AT ALL. There is no way this would EVERRRRRRR be allowed if 1,000,000 people signed it.

JoeFCaputo113 said:
That's sooo worthless and a waste of time. Root= not secure AT ALL. There is no way this would EVERRRRRRR be allowed if 1,000,000 people signed it.
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How is root less secure? People who have root are more cautious they won't fall for the regular virus tricks, they will probably use adaway which will block viruses, and they will get security patches faster.
And if Samsung isn't convinced by this they should at least open the MST hardware to third party developers so they can make their own payment solutions.
Another thing Samsung could do is allow people who tripped knox but reverted back to stock to use Samsung Pay. Imagine buying a phone on ebay with tripped knox and not being able to use a advertised feature.

whymoo said:
How is root less secure? People who have root are more cautious they won't fall for the regular virus tricks, they will probably use adaway which will block viruses, and they will get security patches faster.
And if Samsung isn't convinced by this they should at least open the MST hardware to third party developers so they can make their own payment solutions.
Another thing Samsung could do is allow people who tripped knox but reverted back to stock to use Samsung Pay. Imagine buying a phone on ebay with tripped knox and not being able to use a advertised feature.
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I have to agree. Having root doesn't mean my phone isn't secure. In addition, how can I use root to magically make a purchase without taking money out of an account?
If Samsung is worried about someone else making a root app to access my accounts, then that is my own fault. I still should be allowed to use a feature on my phone. I don't like how they think they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do with my 700 dollar device. It's MY device. I'm responsible for anything that happens to it. Period.
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