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windows mobile on htc desire? possible? worthwhile ?

Hi, as I am not overly fond of the android operating system,
is the hardware such that you could flash a 6.5 windows mobile rom onto the desire?
is it worthwhile trying?

It is impossible, android is open source and thus can be modified to run on diffrent hardware, windows mobile isnt, plus we have diff bootloaders to winmo phones so a flash wud be impossible
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Do people literally NEVER use the search feature then?
How many people are going to post the same ridiculously foolish question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697718
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6731090
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677930
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675647
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6183231
Use the bloody search.

its not a foolish question, i have been active on various sections of xda developers forums and have contributed and gained from each of them, tinkering with a variety of models, I was thinking of buying a desire but wanted to see just how much I can mess with it first .
I have found the majority of people on these forums to be helpful and whilst I understand your frustration, I will be new to this part of the site. And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for
What differs in the hardware to make it impossible? is it just partitioning of the space on the phone? surely if someone wrote a bootloader it would be possible?

If you want to dual boot, you might want to get a HD2 instead, my understanding is that the android rom is in developement.
The desire is pretty much a pure Anroid phone, im not sure that there would be much demand to get winmo workingon it since most people have switched from winmo out of choice and don't really feel the need to go back, but thats just my slant on it. crazier things have happened on this forum.

For starters the drivers were written using the android open source project, every single driver for every tiny piece of hardware would habe to be rewritten lol
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i have read your other posts and understand your frustrations but the whole reason I buy each model is to see how much I can mess with it
would be interesting to see such development in the ROM developement section
but if there is a technical reason why its impossible ( apart from the lack of SPL)
then someone please tell me, as I have not brought the handset yet hehe
what I always say is where there is a will there is a way
as for why ? i dont know... just to see if it can be broken - whats the point in having system you cant break or change Zzzzz
although I do appreciate somethings are impossible.
Can some one explain (if any) the differences in hardware from the hd2 to the desire that will make this task impossile ?
would be much appreciated xxx thanks

I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...
Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? )

The rock bottom is it wud be illegal, it would be in violation of microsofts intelectual rights and for that matter is neva gunna happen here, when we owned windows phones we bought a licence to use windows mobile, with our desire we get no such licence, this would also make it piracy
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With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal? Do that on a Windows PC and you'd get sued!!
But yeah, agree with you

Microsoft have tried to shut xda dwn for that reason many times, but they have always backed down, if a project lyk this was started on a non winmo phone i guarantee they wudnt
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bungle2k3 said:
its not a foolish question
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It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.
bungle2k3 said:
And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for
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The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.

EddyOS said:
With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal?
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Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.

I have seen many questions asking if windows mobile can be ported to the desire. But this post explains it better than any other why it can't.
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Aitese said:
Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.
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That's what I meant, Microsoft sueing chefs for distributing custom WinMo ROMs...I know Android doesn't matter

Aitese said:
It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.
The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.
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Aitese, I do understand your frustration, multiple posts are a no no yes, but I was putting a different slant on it. ie I didnt really grasp from the other threads technically what was stopping us from achieving this task so thats not stupid in my opinion and hasnt been broken down in major detail. My curiosity is that the HD2 and desire seem exactly the same in terms of hardware, yet people suggest that swapping operating systems is impossible.
however, I do now accept that it may not be worth doing
but none of the previous threads seem to explain why that is in any great technical detail (no doubt ul find this now haha), at least now we have discovered whats stopping some one from doing it.
ps I reserve all right to be a lazy noob, to my knowledge I have not broken any other forum rules, as this is not exactly a double post, similar subject yes but if anything this thread would save a curious person like myself from attempting something that might be infringement ..
at least now I wont try

EddyOS said:
I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...
Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? )
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.. how much ; )
ps what varies from the desire to the hd2 in terms of hardware
looks like nowt

love this thread!
ive been trying to get away from my touch HD to android - had to go via a free HD2 upgrade to get here......trust me, windows needs a major overall to tempt me to go back

thats what everybody says .. but my curiosity is that in terms of hardware specs the hd2 and the desire look the same, apart from a bit more ram on the desire ?!?
so... er ... why would the drivers vary that much ?
pls be patient with me I just like messing with stuff
on further playing with android I must say it does seem to have the edge over win mob

persisting with this annoying thread (sorry guys) but what is to stop me using mtty to format my device and flashing the hd2 stock rom to the desire?
ie what would the compatibilty issues be? (as by looks of it hardware is the same give or take a bit of extra ram)
could this be done, and would it just be a case of using a tweaked RUU that would ignore the model number? would this work?
I am guessing the buttons would have to be remapped but what other compatibilty issues would there be ? basically is it possible or is the file structure totally different in a way that would not allow it?
(ps sorry if its something obvious and im making myself look a dummy but from what I can see the HD2 and the Desire are very similar in spec)

[Q] Sense 3.5

Anyone to port ROM with Sense 3.5 for our phone?

No, at least not in the near future. Please read threads aber bootloader and S-OFF problems

theq86 said:
No, at least not in the near future. Please read threads aber bootloader and S-OFF problems
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Not all of our phones suck, so idk where you get off assuming his does.
And to halfway answer the question, it could be ported to a cdma version (virgin). But we would have to have a few devs worth their salt. And to be honest, we just plain don't.
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Unofficial [ICS 4.0.3] D-Sense 4.0 general thread

Hey, since official thread was closed based on Shaky's request, I have opened new, unofficial one, so that there is no need to spam development threads where it does not belong to. There was starting some talk about Kernel 3.0, maybe some experienced ones can enlight this topic.
No offensive or dirty words, please.

To much smoke with no fire...
Not really sure that there will be something from it.
But let's wait and see.

Dafuq? Two threads plus development not enough?

all Shaky's threads are locked so not enough...

personaly i would say get the message... 3 threads locked. message recieved
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come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed, but it does not mean community cannot talk about it...

zakka1da said:
come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed...
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now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.
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LOL I clearly remember when Shaky appeared on the Desire forums before the device was bought, there was this guy from DHD forum who commented " Oh shaky you're now here! After shaking a lot and not baking anything in the DHD" .. hahaha.. I feel really sorry for all of you who kept saying"oh shaky plz do sense 4 for us and you're god and what not!" All rubbish..
What I find hard to understand that why would a dev never talk about what's working and what's not behind the scenes ??? Not even in dev forum? People stopped writing in dev as per his request.. what happened at the end ???
All bull****! I'm not saying that he can't do something, only he knows better, but the way people have been treated in his forums are disgusting.. it never happened in threads in the likes of leedroid or coolexe etc.. everyone was given a chance to express and be heard..
I feel these new so called dev are "noobs" than normal users the people are maintaining their threds
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jmcclue said:
now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.
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yes, I want them to talk about it, and omg, they were locked because Shaky wanted it, not moderators (except of some warnings in development thread). If it was because he did not want to read about it or any other reason, it does not matter, I just don't want this topic to die (when still some hope is alive, maybe).
Back to topic, in Droid Incredible forum I have read that PureMotive had some talk with Shaky and sbryan like 4 days ago and that guy sbryan is most probably looking into that audio issue... we will see

Conclusion : leave shaky alone, he's working hard for us and there is no need to make him under pression.
About this topic, mmmh ... too words, not enough acts ?

To me this thread looks like disrespect to shaky coz he closed two of them already clearly for a reason.
And now again will be the same everybody taking and nobody can actually provide even a simple logcat, you know how many tutorials with step by step explanations have been posted on xda lately for everything: porting ics, compiling kernel, compiling roms from source, kernel optimizations, modding,etc do why non of the talkatives take some time off their life and start working on porting sense 4 and/or kernel 3.0? Seriously this thread would be so much productive rather than waiting and pushing one person to the edge?m?
Does it make sense?
If I had time to waste for ungrateful users I'd work on this myself- however real life and work for now are more important to me.but I bet if any of you read the tutorials and got to know insides of android you could port it yourself. Even DK and Sandvold and Sebastian started like this by experimenting.
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You guys want the perfect and official answer? PM to him
And my estimation of your next answer is
"How did I forget that!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: "
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Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447

When shaky was soliciting donations to buy his Desire you just had to check his history here at XDA to realize he is a prima donna that will probably let you down (if you chipped in for his phone). As the saying goes...he's all hat but no cattle. So I stayed well away.
Now, when laidbacknikez was doing the same (getting donations to buy a new Desire for developing) I did donate to him. He not only sent out a personal thank you note, he has delivered a fantastic ROM in spades...and I would bet he will give us Jellybean a well.
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MrUrgit said:
Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447
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thanks for finding it, another slice of hope (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did ])

zakka1da said:
thanks for finding it, another slice of hope (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did ])
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everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.
if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.
I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.
in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.

Lothaen said:
everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.
if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.
I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.
in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.
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i agree, i onced used aurora rom but never really checked the thread after that. so yeah it was a good find and im glad that sense 4 is being worked on BUT now there is gona be 200+ atleast more people who are gona read this thread and click the link and its gona eventually lead to useless posts and comments just like shakys threads. i could be and hope im wrong but thats what i think.
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One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?
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nlooooo said:
One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?
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i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead
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jmcclue said:
i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead
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Let it go man. If we can't make people stop creating threads to discuss what is the best rom of them all, we can't stop this thread too. :silly:

Huawei Ascend P6 Skin/Sticker?

I just want to know if anybody know where I can buy some Sticker for the P6. I saw on Ebay them but it's not what I want. I search for Carbon stickers where I can feel the Carbon texture. Or like for iPhone Gold Sticker like this: http://www.ebay.de/itm/iPhone-5-Gol...Sticker-Folie-Case-Designfolien-/231088341477
Does anybody know a site to order them?

[offtopic]Wow, thats awesome. This is the first thread on XDA Developers that I see, so I click the link to the eBay-offer and wonder why its german. And then I look at the user that posted this link and I have to see that he is not only german but living in my hometown and he is almost exact my age ... Moin Moin an rupro327 den die Schule anscheinend genauso nervt wie mich [/offtopic]
But I will continue in English so that not only we germans can understand the post So, if you are looking for carbon skins for the P6 you could take a look at skinomi (Unfortunately I cant post a direkt link due to the fact that I dont have enough written posts).
I've never placed an order there myself, so unfortunately I cant give you any further information about this page.

http://www.skinomi.com/sk13713-huawei-ascend-p6-carbon-fiber-skin-protector.html bitte schön!
Thanks, i didnt know about these stickes, they seem awesome! Im just not sure if it willmstick well to the textured back of our phone...

[offtopic] Moin Moin, echt cool hier jemanden aus meiner Stadt zu treffen und ja ich hasse die Schule (Sry for German) [offtopic]
Thanks for the help guys, that's what I looking for. I think I'll order this and test it. I'll give a feedback of this product, so people can see what they buy if they're interested for that.

Chinese screen protectors are low quality, bubbles, etc.

I have bought this 1 month ago only for the back of the phone and it's great : :good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/atFoliX-Des...fkmr0&keywords=ascend+p6+atfolix+carbon+fiber

ipred said:
I have bought this 1 month ago only for the back of the phone and it's great : :good:
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Bought the same one on the german Amazon-Page for my P6 couple of months ago, very nice look and easy to install
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[Q] Any news on an update to the Snapdragon Note 10.1?

Samsung has been really lazy with their updates recently. While they did manage to update the SM-P600 Note, they forgot about all other ones.
Is it really that hard to make the update, considering it already exists on the Snapdragon Note 3 and Note Pro, which have nearly identical internals?

Is it really that hard to post it in the right section? At the moment there is nearly everyday a new thread which asks when kitkat will be available...
You have to be patient.
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benni2903 said:
Is it really that hard to post it in the right section? At the moment there is nearly everyday a new thread which asks when kitkat will be available...
You have to be patient.
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Thank you. No one knew beforehand that the Colombian Wi-Fi version would be the first to get updated nor that the U.S. would follow. So it's safe to assume no one here knows when the 3G and LTE versions are getting updated nor which regions are going to receive it in which order. You'd assume if they did they'd post it without having to be asked. And if someone did post a date they'd be attacked unless they provided some sort of proof backing up their comments. Samsung's updates don't follow any set pattern so the past won't predict the future either. More 4.4 updates will be deployed when they're deployed.

Good God ,,I have never heard so much crying about a update before in my life...Then when they install it..they will be crying again about the bugs..Lol.
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benni2903 said:
Is it really that hard to post it in the right section? At the moment there is nearly everyday a new thread which asks when kitkat will be available...
You have to be patient.
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And people like me that say what is the point? No apparent battery savings (perhaps opposite) and sd card write restrictions are key reasons to avoid it. SD card issue is reason enough for me.
After making a few tweaks, I am content with the device as it is. No need to rock the boat and also lose sd card write permissions.

rushless said:
And people like me that say what is the point? No apparent battery savings (perhaps opposite) and sd card write restrictions are key reasons to avoid it. SD card issue is reason enough for me.
After making a few tweaks, I am content with the device as it is. No need to rock the boat and also lose sd card write permissions.
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I don't quite understand why you have quoted me, I just wanted to say that people should use the search function before creating new useless (already discussed) threads.
I can understand you that you are not willing to take the update because it brings problems with it.
But the OP did not took his time to read a few threads or use the search function which should be priority no.1 before opening a thread. And this happens like everyday.
But here is the quick little research the OP should have done:
Looks Like P605 KitKat Is Almost Here
Where is Kitkat for SM-P605?
LTE version will receive 4.4?
I am going to report this thread because we all have enough device specific KitKat Update threads.
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benni2903 said:
I don't quite understand why you have quoted me, I just wanted to say that people should use the search function before creating new useless (already discussed) threads.
I can understand you that you are not willing to take the update because it brings problems with it.
But the OP did not took his time to read a few threads or use the search function which should be priority no.1 before opening a thread. And this happens like everyday.
But here is the quick little research the OP should have done:
Looks Like P605 KitKat Is Almost Here
Where is Kitkat for SM-P605?
LTE version will receive 4.4?
I am going to report this thread because we all have enough device specific KitKat Update threads.
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I was adding to your point. Not dinging.

I am going to go ahead and close this here... other threads already covee this question, and this one seems like fighting for the most part. Everyone, please remember to search before posting, and to always act civil....