Hi, as I am not overly fond of the android operating system,
is the hardware such that you could flash a 6.5 windows mobile rom onto the desire?
is it worthwhile trying?
It is impossible, android is open source and thus can be modified to run on diffrent hardware, windows mobile isnt, plus we have diff bootloaders to winmo phones so a flash wud be impossible
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Do people literally NEVER use the search feature then?
How many people are going to post the same ridiculously foolish question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697718
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6731090
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677930
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675647
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6183231
Use the bloody search.
its not a foolish question, i have been active on various sections of xda developers forums and have contributed and gained from each of them, tinkering with a variety of models, I was thinking of buying a desire but wanted to see just how much I can mess with it first .
I have found the majority of people on these forums to be helpful and whilst I understand your frustration, I will be new to this part of the site. And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for
What differs in the hardware to make it impossible? is it just partitioning of the space on the phone? surely if someone wrote a bootloader it would be possible?
If you want to dual boot, you might want to get a HD2 instead, my understanding is that the android rom is in developement.
The desire is pretty much a pure Anroid phone, im not sure that there would be much demand to get winmo workingon it since most people have switched from winmo out of choice and don't really feel the need to go back, but thats just my slant on it. crazier things have happened on this forum.
For starters the drivers were written using the android open source project, every single driver for every tiny piece of hardware would habe to be rewritten lol
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i have read your other posts and understand your frustrations but the whole reason I buy each model is to see how much I can mess with it
would be interesting to see such development in the ROM developement section
but if there is a technical reason why its impossible ( apart from the lack of SPL)
then someone please tell me, as I have not brought the handset yet hehe
what I always say is where there is a will there is a way
as for why ? i dont know... just to see if it can be broken - whats the point in having system you cant break or change Zzzzz
although I do appreciate somethings are impossible.
Can some one explain (if any) the differences in hardware from the hd2 to the desire that will make this task impossile ?
would be much appreciated xxx thanks
I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...
Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? )
The rock bottom is it wud be illegal, it would be in violation of microsofts intelectual rights and for that matter is neva gunna happen here, when we owned windows phones we bought a licence to use windows mobile, with our desire we get no such licence, this would also make it piracy
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With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal? Do that on a Windows PC and you'd get sued!!
But yeah, agree with you
Microsoft have tried to shut xda dwn for that reason many times, but they have always backed down, if a project lyk this was started on a non winmo phone i guarantee they wudnt
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It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.
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And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for
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The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.
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With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal?
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Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.
I have seen many questions asking if windows mobile can be ported to the desire. But this post explains it better than any other why it can't.
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Aitese said:
Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.
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That's what I meant, Microsoft sueing chefs for distributing custom WinMo ROMs...I know Android doesn't matter
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It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.
The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.
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Aitese, I do understand your frustration, multiple posts are a no no yes, but I was putting a different slant on it. ie I didnt really grasp from the other threads technically what was stopping us from achieving this task so thats not stupid in my opinion and hasnt been broken down in major detail. My curiosity is that the HD2 and desire seem exactly the same in terms of hardware, yet people suggest that swapping operating systems is impossible.
however, I do now accept that it may not be worth doing
but none of the previous threads seem to explain why that is in any great technical detail (no doubt ul find this now haha), at least now we have discovered whats stopping some one from doing it.
ps I reserve all right to be a lazy noob, to my knowledge I have not broken any other forum rules, as this is not exactly a double post, similar subject yes but if anything this thread would save a curious person like myself from attempting something that might be infringement ..
at least now I wont try
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I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...
Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? )
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.. how much ; )
ps what varies from the desire to the hd2 in terms of hardware
looks like nowt
love this thread!
ive been trying to get away from my touch HD to android - had to go via a free HD2 upgrade to get here......trust me, windows needs a major overall to tempt me to go back
thats what everybody says .. but my curiosity is that in terms of hardware specs the hd2 and the desire look the same, apart from a bit more ram on the desire ?!?
so... er ... why would the drivers vary that much ?
pls be patient with me I just like messing with stuff
on further playing with android I must say it does seem to have the edge over win mob
persisting with this annoying thread (sorry guys) but what is to stop me using mtty to format my device and flashing the hd2 stock rom to the desire?
ie what would the compatibilty issues be? (as by looks of it hardware is the same give or take a bit of extra ram)
could this be done, and would it just be a case of using a tweaked RUU that would ignore the model number? would this work?
I am guessing the buttons would have to be remapped but what other compatibilty issues would there be ? basically is it possible or is the file structure totally different in a way that would not allow it?
(ps sorry if its something obvious and im making myself look a dummy but from what I can see the HD2 and the Desire are very similar in spec)
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ive just got my xda orbit
its running windows mobile 6 pro
im new to smart phones as my last phone was an n70
but i know my computers (comptia a+ and network+)
just wanted to know what i can do with this thing
ref homebrew software, cracked software ect
but in noob language plz as im not familiar with all the shorted terms ect
cheers guys/gals
xda-orbit-wm6 said:
ive just got my xda orbit
its running windows mobile 6 pro
im new to smart phones as my last phone was an n70
but i know my computers (comptia a+ and network+)
just wanted to know what i can do with this thing
ref homebrew software, cracked software ect
but in noob language plz as im not familiar with all the shorted terms ect
cheers guys/gals
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Regarding software, best bet would be to ask for something specific, and before asking, check through the forums to see if anyone else hasn't asked, or just released something you want.
cracked software will not get discussed here, if you want something like that, there are plenty of places on the web to look, but that discussion here isn't acceptable.
best bet would be to look through the custom(cooked) roms and see what you like, both Meschle and Tom have good roms out which add extra functionality to your phone.
I'm using Meschles Touch 3.01 (without cube) at the moment, very nice and complete, i'd read through the first few pages of the thread to get a few hints and tips also.
Have fun
i know what you mean
but i want like a noobs guide into what everything means
as what i know as a rom doesnt seem to mean the same thing when regards to phones
ive taken a guess at cooked means homebrew
just an idiots insite would be helpful
many thanks for your reply
adam
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i want like a noobs guide into what everything means
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I don't much care where" - Said Alice in Wonderland, "so long as I get somewhere".
"Then it does not matter which way you go", answered the Cheshire Cat.
Be more specific, like software for your PC there are 1001 different kinds of software and ways to use a handheld device. I myself use it mainly for navigation, adressbook, agenda, 'gameboy', Radio/MP3 Player, an occasional (GPS localised)photo and of course telephone and SMS. The herefound personalized Roms give you some extra options which often are mentioned in the first post in the corresponding threads.
Try to get hands on the manual, read the wiki/stickys and reconsider what you are asking .
As a starting point, i'd recommend you check out http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Artemis
I would suggest that the Desire forum be combined with the Nexus One and called Bravo. They are the same device with a couple small variations. Other devices (Universal comes to mind) had hardware variants but were not broken out into 2 sub forums.
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It's a different phone though, it has Sense UI and more Ram.
It's like the G1 and HTC Magic being the same apart from the Magic having no keyboard... they still have different forums.
Sense UI is a software front end (and ALL variants have different software). And the Universal also has different versions, some with double the RAM of others. It is the same device, same platform, same hardware. Since you can install the Nexus One ROM on the Desire with NO porting, it's the same device. They also have identical hardware specs with the exception of a little more RAM to accommodate Sense and the optical joystick.
The Magic and G1 were completely different in the sense that one had a keyboard and one did not. If the Desire had a physical keyboard, I'd agree with you.
This will do nothing but segment development and resources.
But it is different hardware, considering the 64mb more ram and the missing second mic and the hard buttons instead of soft touch buttons and the optical mouse.
And the porting, i think there was some kind of changes, or why else is there already alpha version 7 when not cause of the bugs?
Is this enough different hardware to give it its own forum?
Also i´m quite sure, that rooting might be kind of harder than on the nexus, or does anybody know something about it yet?
so should the developer versions of Google phones get their own forum? HTC has slightly changed devices throughout it's history but we've never given them their own subforum.
e.g.
The HTC Kaiser has a front facing camera. AT&T's does not. Did the Tilt get it's own forum?
The original Universal had 64MB of RAM. The updated T-Mobile version has 128. Did it get it's own forum?
The HTC 620, 621, and 622 had differences, one didn't have WiFi, the others did.
The HTC Wizard is different enough between some versions that if you flash a ROM from one on to the other, it will kill it.
Some devices have Sense, some do not. Should they get their own forums? And what happens if the ones that didn't suddenly get SenseUI in an update. Do they lose their own forums?
Look, I don't own XDA and those that do can certainly do what they want. But I've gone through the FCC documents and looked at the ROMimages between the two. They are the same device with differences exactly like the examples I used above (and there are many more). Segmenting the two only hampers development efforts.
-Mc
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The HTC 620, 621, and 622 had differences, one didn't have WiFi, the others did.
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Not only that, but the S640. Telus only device, different chasis then those, CDMA, but some people were saying it should be lumped in with the other 6XX line.
I don't know about you but the HTC Sapphire Forums is littered between 32A and 32B ROMs.
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I don't know about you but the HTC Sapphire Forums is littered between 32A and 32B ROMs.
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Agreed... N1/Desire should be kept seperate!
Especially since they probaly do not share hboots and radios... So keeping the forums seperate minimizes risks of people flashing wrong stuff (as was seen on 32A/B quite often)
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Agreed... N1/Desire should be kept seperate!
Especially since they probaly do not share hboots and radios... So keeping the forums seperate minimizes risks of people flashing wrong stuff (as was seen on 32A/B quite often)
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They DO share hboots and radios. They are the same phone. That's my point. Next, we'll start new sub forums for different case colors or carriers or logos or...
If they share radio/hboot they can flash the same ROMs without porting? If that is so, they should have the same section in my opinion.
The partition layouts are different on the devices. So no...you cant just take a rom from one and have it work straight away.
People have managed to get Desire Roms running on the n1, but they had to move system data to the data partition to do so.
The Desire is also unlikley to be rootable via unlocking the bootloader. If we put both devices in one section it would just confuse the nooblets.
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If we put both devices in one section it would just confuse the nooblets.
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Man if we used THAT as a compass around here, we'd be better off closing the site entirely. You can confuse them no matter what you do. Again, look at the Universal threads. Different RAM sizes but both versions lived happily ever after in the same forum. This site was NEVER intended for newbs. It shouldn't. If it did, most of us would leave.
How much do you guys wanna bet that many ROM's will be made in Nexus1 and Desire flavors. How many LITE ROMS have you seen on XDA? A lite ROM will work on either device without ANY porting or special mods. Why not have them in the same thread/forum?
I think if their roms are cross compatible, why not have the development sections mergered? They could have separate sections but once some1 clicks on development for N1 or Desire they are lead to the same page.
yes this could be the best as i see it. there are differences, radio buttons etc,,, there might be other differences for general question etc. but if the two of them have the same structure for roms then maedhros suggested the best, why not having them into one development section!
if any1 can proove for me that they share the exact same spl, radio and partition layout then im on it! as it could be the last extra rams that have been used for the /system partition else i think it is like mixing up da hero and sapphire as they are close, but biggest difference is software based
I agree that If the 2 are proved to be identical in development terms upon the desires release, then the forums could be merged, with perhaps a couple of stickies at the top explaining what you need to do to root the phone before you can use the roms. However this should not be done until this proven conclusively on a released phone.
IF roms that can be used on both devices using the same unlocking techniques become a reality, i will take this suggestion up with administration.
(But that won't be soon)
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Man if we used THAT as a compass around here, we'd be better off closing the site entirely. You can confuse them no matter what you do. Again, look at the Universal threads. Different RAM sizes but both versions lived happily ever after in the same forum. This site was NEVER intended for newbs. It shouldn't. If it did, most of us would leave.
How much do you guys wanna bet that many ROM's will be made in Nexus1 and Desire flavors. How many LITE ROMS have you seen on XDA? A lite ROM will work on either device without ANY porting or special mods. Why not have them in the same thread/forum?
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This is an absolute appalling comment. Condescending and unhelpful. Everyone has to start at some point and a vast silent majority of people visit the site to learn and root... Unless one can prove that you cannot harm one of the devices by using a ROM for the other, the threads should be separated, even if it cost a few duplicates...
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This is an absolute appalling comment. Condescending and unhelpful. Everyone has to start at some point and a vast silent majority of people visit the site to learn and root... Unless one can prove that you cannot harm one of the devices by using a ROM for the other, the threads should be separated, even if it cost a few duplicates...
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You either took it wrong or are being a troll. XDA is a developers and hackers forum. We are all newbs at some point but this forum isn't designed for the newb. It's designed for the hacker/developer. I'm not ripping on newbs for being newbs. Hell, I'm a newb again as I just got my AT&T Nexus One yesterday - my first Android phone. But I'm reading and searching and won't have a reason to ask a question for quite some time. All of the information is already here on XDA. Newbs are welcome but we expect them to SEARCH and READ before asking a lot of questions. Some do, some don't. But if we dumbed down the forum, it would ruin it. There'd be so much crap to wade through and so many duplicate threads it'd be too time consuming to do so. THAT was my point.
Maybe we should have separate Desire forums for the silver version and a separate forum for the charcoal version. That should help, right? Because newbs who don't read are going to ask over and over if the ROM being discussed will work on their particular color of Desire. And that won't make anything confusing, right? Some ROMS posted in one forum and some posted in the other (just like the Desire vs. Nexus One). People will continually ask if the ROM will work on their device because it was in a different forum.
And FYI, you can harm the device just as easy using the correct ROM on the same device, or by running a simple command, or... If they read everything before they start, they will have no problems. If they don't read, well, we can't hold their hands.
This forum is catered to experienced hackers. We will help newbs through every part of every process, but this is still a forum for experienced hackers. If you don't like that, find a place that spoon feeds or does things for you. And if this place ever turns into a forum that spoon feeds and everyone asks to do things for them, most of us will surely leave. Then who will help them?
the question is why not?
Why is it important to you to keep them in one section? are you thinking about server space utilizing ?
I mean what is the harm of making them in separate sections (what is the harm to you)?
i am getting my self a htc desire but i have been a user of windows mobile software's for ever and i love it.
would i be able to still use some of the software's that i have on hand??
I would appriciate if you could email me your replies on this subject to
[email protected]
Thank you in advance
From what Ive seen on here from when other people have posted this question hes gonna get a lot of hate emails lol.
LOL, what a redicilous question!! Android FTW!
i'd wager it's possible if you can find a few dedicated people to support your cause.
Oh, and btw, bwahahahahahahahahahaha
And that's coming from someone who's had 4 WinMo devices in a row before a desire.
Since the specs are similar It might not be that difficult for people to get together etc..
But, If you can, try the desire and the HD2 and see which you prefer. After owning winmo before, and coming within inches of owning a HD2 and then trying a desire - linux is so much better at the user experience. The fluidity, ease of use and speed at which things are accessed is far better than the winmo 6.1 and 6.5 I have used before. The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
I'm just very happy that the phone doesnt stress me out trying to use it like winmo did. writing txts and swapping between functions is quick. Very cool.
It's not "Is it possible?" it's "Why bother?"
I hate "flame" conversation. But WHY bother? If you want snapdragon with WM then HD2 is your device. I have 10years of history with windows mobile devices from Cassiopeia A-11 with Windows CE, thru WM2003, 05, 06 and 6.5. And I can say after month with HTC Desire, every possible app is already for android and it runs faster and looks better. Except professional apps used in parcel delivery and stock monitoring (only question of time).
Don´t worry you´ll do just fine.
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The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
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A six year old might be fine, the missus still struggles...
I, myself, am a fully fledged Android convert. Previously, my favourite devices were all WinMobile (Never liked Symbian much). I took a leap of faith and got my Desire on a bit of a whim (and a LOT of research) and I can honestly say I love Android to bits, it's easily the best Phone/Phone OS I've ever used so I'm on everyone in this forum's side when it comes to Android vs. WinMobile.
But I still have to say, I see nothing wrong with what the OP is asking. If someone released a port of Windows Mobile 6.5 or 7 for the Desire, I'd probably try it out myself, even for just a giggle. I know I'd go back to android probably within a few hours, but that's not the point, it's fun to play with stuff like that.
The fact that the guy has picked the Desire over the likes of the HD2 tells me that he's made his choice with Android and just wants to keep his options open - and what's wrong with that? This is exactly the kind of thing that XDA dev was designed for. Hell, my dream would be to have an OS choice at bootup, imagine being able to pick between your favourite custom ROMs, a stock ROM and even a WinMo ROM? That would be pretty epic and I don't think anyone would complain that it was a "Waste of time". So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.
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So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.
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It is a stupid question when it gets asked week in week out.
A simple search would've revealed this - I just searched "Windows Mobile" and found 5 threads asking the same question.
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Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question. Rather than flame the guy, just ask him nicely to use search in future and point him to one of the threads.
Personally, I don't think the ignorance of the search bar is any worse than those who flame people for asking "stupid questions".
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Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question.
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No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Note - it's rule 1!
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No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
Note - it's rule 1!
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Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
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Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
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You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.
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You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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I wouldn't say flaming, just wasn't terribly polite. Sure, the guy could have and should have used the search engine ,that's fair enough, but all the "Lols, why bother, android is teh win, winmo is teh suck!" style comments weren't helpful, informative or necessary at all.
I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.
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I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.
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See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that? It doesn't help and all you'll do is drag out this thread much more than it needs to be. Does this "stupid question" bother you that much? Then don't reply! Ignore it and it'll go away.
Anyway, upon further inspection, it's actually not that stupid inquestion. Despite the knee-jerk reaction we all got from the title, if you read his post carefully, he's actually asking if there's any way he can run some of his windows mobile programs on the Desire. Not the full OS, just some of the programs. Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question? We have emulators for plenty of other devices and anyone not that familliar with Android might not know that it's a completely different OS, or that it's completely incompatible. He's clearly a newbie, so go easy.
All I'm really saying is, if this kind of thing bothers you, drop the attitude and juse ignore it.
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See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that?
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Because, judging from the amount of times I seen this patently ridiculous request, the polite helpful tone doesn't seem to work.
Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question?
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Yes frankly. It doesn't strike you as silly? you don't think the ability to run WM apps or some sort of virtualisation on Android might have made big waves by now? No? Really?
I would say if the attitude bothers you, YOU ignore it.
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Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.
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Maybe it's because the Desire has more RAM that the HD2 and HD Mini, why can't someone just port winmo on a desire and shut people up thats asking for it too be ported..... surely its not that hard to port it over.....
"Maybe its just to hard for XDA Developers or anonymous developers on this forum to port it over.... ah well soo much for theres skills....
It serisouly serisouly can't be that hard.... if Android can be ported on a winmo mobile, why is it soo hard to port winmo on a Android phone thats 100% capable of running the O/S.
Please will someone just port it over to the Desire soo there will not be any more future threads of if it can be ported over.....
Maybe some people don't like Android and prefer winmo O/S because of there purchased apps maybe.
Please don't go mocking me saying "omg why would anyone wan't to do that.... Android is the best because its open source etc....
Since the HTC Smart is formally an HTC phone, will it get it's own dedicated forum? It came out back in March and I still have yet to see a forum for it. Can anyone let me know if/when a forum will be made? Thanks!
Until we hear from some developers on how much can be done with the HTC Smart, we're going to skip it. This could change...
Alright, I haven't heard much from it. That's why I was curious since every HTC phone ever made is on here... except for the Smart....
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That's why I was curious since every HTC phone ever made is on here... except for the Smart....
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That's not true really. First ones that come in mind are:
HTC P3000 (HTC Wave)
HTC P6300 (HTC Panda)
Qtek G100 (HTC Galaxy)
Those devices was never added to xda and there are some more I think
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That's not true really. First ones that come in mind are:
HTC P3000 (HTC Wave)
HTC P6300 (HTC Panda)
Qtek G100 (HTC Galaxy)
Those devices was never added to xda and there are some more I think
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Aren't those the chinese ones that are all under the Dopod name though?
AFAIK, there's not much that can be done with the HTC Smart at present
I know someone with it, but he seems to feel hard-done by compared to my Hero and other Android phones out there. I dunno if it can be 'rooted' or anything like that.
But I imagine that given the proprietary nature of the OS, it will gain a limited following, which might hinder any possible dev work.
But if you can get into the device using telnet or anything like that, or find a way to flash or modify the filesystem, then you're half way there
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AFAIK, there's not much that can be done with the HTC Smart at present
I know someone with it, but he seems to feel hard-done by compared to my Hero and other Android phones out there. I dunno if it can be 'rooted' or anything like that.
But I imagine that given the proprietary nature of the OS, it will gain a limited following, which might hinder any possible dev work.
But if you can get into the device using telnet or anything like that, or find a way to flash or modify the filesystem, then you're half way there
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Well.... if their was an XDA section I think it would progress in terms of customization and support.
Purple Drama Llama said:
Well.... if their was an XDA section I think it would progress in terms of customization and support.
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+1
As discussion could breed a solution!
Purple Drama Llama said:
Well.... if their was an XDA section I think it would progress in terms of customization and support.
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+200. By adding a BREW forum (like you did with bada) we could most likely get some people on board to look at the HTC Smart and Freestyle.
And then there was silence!
Brew forum needed
I agree about the need for a Brew forum. Discussion breeds ideas
Bought my wife one of these sweet looking phones as her introduction to smart phone what waste of time, thing just keeps freezing, dialling when it likes to random people and openly moves stuff around after she has customized it......
Tried to sync it even that is not strait forward.........downloaded the HTC Sync software and can get it connected but the section on the right is all greyed out and it comes up with tick on of the boxes for it to sync.....but there's nothing to tick..
Anyone else had any problems?? I feel an updated firmware might well help. The no mention of the phone even existing on the HTC website and I only got it xmas just gone. I find that pretty appalling...
Well.... if their was an XDA section I think it would progress in terms of customization and support.
will it be possible for ppl to port wp7 onto the desire? altho it's probably strictly not legal cos of the closedness of wp7..
honestly.. why?
How many times are we going to see the exact same question posted over and over (and over)? Did you think to search before posting? Wait, don't answer that, it's a stupid question since we all know the answer already (you're obviously pressed for time since you couldn't be bothered to type all of the letters in some of your words)
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you got more chance of getting windows 7 on your desire lol
+1 for wp7 on desire
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+1 for wp7 on desire
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well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom
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well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom
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Oh, is that all
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well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom
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Pshhhhh, can do that in an evening...
Why W7 when android but rapes all other mobile OS?
People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.
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Why W7 when android but rapes all other mobile OS?
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i like android but it abso does not 'rapes all other....'. gpu acceleration of the UI, for some utterly retarded reason, is missing and that makes the phone laggy at times when you're multitasking.
modern phones like ours have gpus and the damn UI should have been hardware accelerated as of android 2.1.
our desires as they are now (2.2) with hard accel or the UI would make it iphone/winmo 7 smooth (winmo is smooth - see hte anandtech article on it).
that's what i want for my desire above anything else at the moment - well, that and the ability to do the absolutely 100% legal task of recording my calls.
google are so stupid sometimes. hopefully winmo and a decent webos phone will light a fire under em to get some of the basics right before moving on to something else.
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People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.
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Its harder than that. Yeah, Android can be ported to devices becaise its open source.
And how are there no good answers? I guess youve just completely ignored AndroHeros reply, and fhe 2 people who have quoted him... [/rage]
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fraW said:
People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.
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There have been plenty of good answers (which generally are "no, because WP7 is closed source"). The definition of a good answer usually is "the answer is more or less correct" whereas your definition of a good answer appears to be the same as what my kids would define as a good answer in response to "dad can I..." questions - meaning "yes, of course you can."
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There have been plenty of good answers (which generally are "no, because WP7 is closed source"). The definition of a good answer usually is "the answer is more or less correct" whereas your definition of a good answer appears to be the same as what my kids would define as a good answer in response to "dad can I..." questions - meaning "yes, of course you can."
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Indeed!
Just because people don't like the answer that's given doesn't make it a bad answer, or any less correct (assuming it is correct!).
And there is *no* excuse for not using search. From the forum rules:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Note that this is rule 1! The OP is not a newbie, so should have known better!
Regards,
Dave
Sure WP7 is closed source, but closed source has never stopped devs before.
The answer "No" with nothing else following it is generally a really bad answer, for many reasons.
It is possible to port WP7 to desire, the question is rather Who and When then If.
People said that the PS3 NEVER will be hacked, look what happened 4 years later.
Don't be so closed minded.
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I don't really understand the pessimism. Many handsets that didn't get officially WinMo 6.5 EVER, got it from ROM chefs here at XDA. Why should it be different this time?
This has been asked and answered quite a few times. Search and Google are your friends.
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