Since the HTC Smart is formally an HTC phone, will it get it's own dedicated forum? It came out back in March and I still have yet to see a forum for it. Can anyone let me know if/when a forum will be made? Thanks!
Until we hear from some developers on how much can be done with the HTC Smart, we're going to skip it. This could change...
Alright, I haven't heard much from it. That's why I was curious since every HTC phone ever made is on here... except for the Smart....
Purple Drama Llama said:
That's why I was curious since every HTC phone ever made is on here... except for the Smart....
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That's not true really. First ones that come in mind are:
HTC P3000 (HTC Wave)
HTC P6300 (HTC Panda)
Qtek G100 (HTC Galaxy)
Those devices was never added to xda and there are some more I think
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That's not true really. First ones that come in mind are:
HTC P3000 (HTC Wave)
HTC P6300 (HTC Panda)
Qtek G100 (HTC Galaxy)
Those devices was never added to xda and there are some more I think
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Aren't those the chinese ones that are all under the Dopod name though?
AFAIK, there's not much that can be done with the HTC Smart at present
I know someone with it, but he seems to feel hard-done by compared to my Hero and other Android phones out there. I dunno if it can be 'rooted' or anything like that.
But I imagine that given the proprietary nature of the OS, it will gain a limited following, which might hinder any possible dev work.
But if you can get into the device using telnet or anything like that, or find a way to flash or modify the filesystem, then you're half way there
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AFAIK, there's not much that can be done with the HTC Smart at present
I know someone with it, but he seems to feel hard-done by compared to my Hero and other Android phones out there. I dunno if it can be 'rooted' or anything like that.
But I imagine that given the proprietary nature of the OS, it will gain a limited following, which might hinder any possible dev work.
But if you can get into the device using telnet or anything like that, or find a way to flash or modify the filesystem, then you're half way there
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Well.... if their was an XDA section I think it would progress in terms of customization and support.
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Well.... if their was an XDA section I think it would progress in terms of customization and support.
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+1
As discussion could breed a solution!
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Well.... if their was an XDA section I think it would progress in terms of customization and support.
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+200. By adding a BREW forum (like you did with bada) we could most likely get some people on board to look at the HTC Smart and Freestyle.
And then there was silence!
Brew forum needed
I agree about the need for a Brew forum. Discussion breeds ideas
Bought my wife one of these sweet looking phones as her introduction to smart phone what waste of time, thing just keeps freezing, dialling when it likes to random people and openly moves stuff around after she has customized it......
Tried to sync it even that is not strait forward.........downloaded the HTC Sync software and can get it connected but the section on the right is all greyed out and it comes up with tick on of the boxes for it to sync.....but there's nothing to tick..
Anyone else had any problems?? I feel an updated firmware might well help. The no mention of the phone even existing on the HTC website and I only got it xmas just gone. I find that pretty appalling...
Well.... if their was an XDA section I think it would progress in terms of customization and support.
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Hi friends! I just want to start a poll for voting if we want to have a forum for other non-HTC devices, like the following list:
-O2 (like stealth, atom pure, etc)
-Toshiba
-Samsung
-Gigabyte
In the initial time I think that a separate forum for each manufacturer would be ok...
Basically we are here to share knowledge and expertise about using these great devices, and I think that will be great to add this new forums because while the community is becoming more popular, more users are here to research how to enhance their productivity...
Thanks in advance!
Yeah, I agreed to that. Voted already.
i want a forum for Eten x800 VGA with tri-band 3G!
y wouldnt u! Eten x800 is so much better then tytn/hymes.
pros and cons
well if we open up to more manufactures, this would mean more traffic, more knowledge on general forums and more people to donate to this great cause but these are busy forums anyway and the mods and admin have lives to lead. the extra burden is on them so either they appoint more admins and mods or leave it as it is. but as the name is xda developeras maybe they should allow other xda phones from o2.....
Hey, I don't want to scroll even further down!
Seriously, one should be able to hide the unwanted forums.
Hey, I'm trying for four months to get an HTC Cavalier forum on this site and it aint happening. So don't bother.
Cheers
just FYI: whatever the outcome of the poll, this site will be staying HTC only.
why?
Koterpillar said:
Hey, I don't want to scroll even further down!
Seriously, one should be able to hide the unwanted forums.
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why miss out its always good to poke around oter forums decide which phone to get next, check out software hardware etc a lot of stuff works universally and i often get ideas suggestions from other forums dont be so narrow minded you might even be able to help others as no doubt we have all being helped by someone on this forum...
@ midget_1990 is there gunna be a shift forum??
eten forums
netnerd said:
i want a forum for Eten x800 VGA with tri-band 3G!
y wouldnt u! Eten x800 is so much better then tytn/hymes.
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You will get excellent support in www.eten-users.eu, it is xda-devs alike...
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Hey, I'm trying for four months to get an HTC Cavalier forum on this site and it aint happening. So don't bother.
Cheers
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@Midget_1990: Well, if the site remains only for HTC devices, it would be great if all HTC devices would have its own forum ;-)
Q: the T-Mobile Shadow (HTC Kii) was released, any chance to place its own forum?
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why miss out its always good to poke around oter forums decide which phone to get next, check out software hardware etc a lot of stuff works universally and i often get ideas suggestions from other forums dont be so narrow minded you might even be able to help others as no doubt we have all being helped by someone on this forum...
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@Midget_1990: Well, if the site remains only for HTC devices, it would be great if all HTC devices would have its own forum ;-)
Q: the T-Mobile Shadow (HTC Kii) was released, any chance to place its own forum?
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@ midget_1990 is there gunna be a shift forum??
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Flar is the only person who can do this, so i suggest you start by PM'ing her
hey please open for xda stealth we r dying for the ......
I highly agree with new forums for other devices. I think we can find many great software in other manufacture devices as in HTC devices.
Such as: Gigabyte Wise talk, Answering mashine, Easy Menu, DTMF Sounds and ....
Hi, as I am not overly fond of the android operating system,
is the hardware such that you could flash a 6.5 windows mobile rom onto the desire?
is it worthwhile trying?
It is impossible, android is open source and thus can be modified to run on diffrent hardware, windows mobile isnt, plus we have diff bootloaders to winmo phones so a flash wud be impossible
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Do people literally NEVER use the search feature then?
How many people are going to post the same ridiculously foolish question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697718
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6731090
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677930
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675647
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6183231
Use the bloody search.
its not a foolish question, i have been active on various sections of xda developers forums and have contributed and gained from each of them, tinkering with a variety of models, I was thinking of buying a desire but wanted to see just how much I can mess with it first .
I have found the majority of people on these forums to be helpful and whilst I understand your frustration, I will be new to this part of the site. And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for
What differs in the hardware to make it impossible? is it just partitioning of the space on the phone? surely if someone wrote a bootloader it would be possible?
If you want to dual boot, you might want to get a HD2 instead, my understanding is that the android rom is in developement.
The desire is pretty much a pure Anroid phone, im not sure that there would be much demand to get winmo workingon it since most people have switched from winmo out of choice and don't really feel the need to go back, but thats just my slant on it. crazier things have happened on this forum.
For starters the drivers were written using the android open source project, every single driver for every tiny piece of hardware would habe to be rewritten lol
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i have read your other posts and understand your frustrations but the whole reason I buy each model is to see how much I can mess with it
would be interesting to see such development in the ROM developement section
but if there is a technical reason why its impossible ( apart from the lack of SPL)
then someone please tell me, as I have not brought the handset yet hehe
what I always say is where there is a will there is a way
as for why ? i dont know... just to see if it can be broken - whats the point in having system you cant break or change Zzzzz
although I do appreciate somethings are impossible.
Can some one explain (if any) the differences in hardware from the hd2 to the desire that will make this task impossile ?
would be much appreciated xxx thanks
I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...
Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? )
The rock bottom is it wud be illegal, it would be in violation of microsofts intelectual rights and for that matter is neva gunna happen here, when we owned windows phones we bought a licence to use windows mobile, with our desire we get no such licence, this would also make it piracy
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With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal? Do that on a Windows PC and you'd get sued!!
But yeah, agree with you
Microsoft have tried to shut xda dwn for that reason many times, but they have always backed down, if a project lyk this was started on a non winmo phone i guarantee they wudnt
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its not a foolish question
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It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.
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And with so many threads its not always easy to find exactly what your looking for
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The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.
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With that argument surely baking and distributing custom ROMs would also be illegal?
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Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.
I have seen many questions asking if windows mobile can be ported to the desire. But this post explains it better than any other why it can't.
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Aitese said:
Android is open source...Windows Mobile isn't.
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That's what I meant, Microsoft sueing chefs for distributing custom WinMo ROMs...I know Android doesn't matter
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It is when it's been asked and answered multiple times. Being such a long standing XDA user you'd think you'd have had a gander at the rules by now or at least attempt to adhere to them.
The 6 posts I posted were found with a single search of "Windows Mobile, Desire" up in that search box you completely ignored. So, yes, it is easy...you just didn't even try.
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Aitese, I do understand your frustration, multiple posts are a no no yes, but I was putting a different slant on it. ie I didnt really grasp from the other threads technically what was stopping us from achieving this task so thats not stupid in my opinion and hasnt been broken down in major detail. My curiosity is that the HD2 and desire seem exactly the same in terms of hardware, yet people suggest that swapping operating systems is impossible.
however, I do now accept that it may not be worth doing
but none of the previous threads seem to explain why that is in any great technical detail (no doubt ul find this now haha), at least now we have discovered whats stopping some one from doing it.
ps I reserve all right to be a lazy noob, to my knowledge I have not broken any other forum rules, as this is not exactly a double post, similar subject yes but if anything this thread would save a curious person like myself from attempting something that might be infringement ..
at least now I wont try
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I doubt it'd be impossible - but it's take a huge ammount of R&D and developers on here don't have that sort of time/money to undertake such a task...
Just get an HD2 if you want WinMo (can buy my old one if you want? )
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.. how much ; )
ps what varies from the desire to the hd2 in terms of hardware
looks like nowt
love this thread!
ive been trying to get away from my touch HD to android - had to go via a free HD2 upgrade to get here......trust me, windows needs a major overall to tempt me to go back
thats what everybody says .. but my curiosity is that in terms of hardware specs the hd2 and the desire look the same, apart from a bit more ram on the desire ?!?
so... er ... why would the drivers vary that much ?
pls be patient with me I just like messing with stuff
on further playing with android I must say it does seem to have the edge over win mob
persisting with this annoying thread (sorry guys) but what is to stop me using mtty to format my device and flashing the hd2 stock rom to the desire?
ie what would the compatibilty issues be? (as by looks of it hardware is the same give or take a bit of extra ram)
could this be done, and would it just be a case of using a tweaked RUU that would ignore the model number? would this work?
I am guessing the buttons would have to be remapped but what other compatibilty issues would there be ? basically is it possible or is the file structure totally different in a way that would not allow it?
(ps sorry if its something obvious and im making myself look a dummy but from what I can see the HD2 and the Desire are very similar in spec)
Okay, I assume the dev forum is the right place for this, since it would involve taking things apart.
I was wondering, for those of us who like Sense (don't hit me, to each his own), has anybody ever tried to seperate it from Android and port it to non HTC devices?
There are some great new things coming down the pipe, and I am not a developer, so I don't pretend to know if this is even remotely possible.
Just a wish of mine that maybe HTC would make it available in the Market for other devices to install.
Thanks for any contructive input,
Dennis
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Wrong section and then some. Try the forum section for the non HTC phone you speak of.
I don't speak of any particular phone. I have an Incredible.
And I suspect that since Sense is only on HTC phones, somebody who works with them would have to do it, if it even can be done.
I was asking because I see other devices, like the new Samsung Tablet, that I would really like if they had Sense.
Of course if HTC came out with one, that would solve my problem anyway.
Dennis
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Okay, I assume the dev forum is the right place for this, since it would involve taking things apart.
I was wondering, for those of us who like Sense (don't hit me, to each his own), has anybody ever tried to seperate it from Android and port it to non HTC devices?
There are some great new things coming down the pipe, and I am not a developer, so I don't pretend to know if this is even remotely possible.
Just a wish of mine that maybe HTC would make it available in the Market for other devices to install.
Thanks for any contructive input,
Dennis
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Back before I got the Incredible I was following a port to the Moto Droid of SenseUI. I don't know if they ever finished because there were HUGE hurdles that had to be overcome like the RIL. It was the zeusdroid team, you can try googling them to see if any of their work comes up. Like I said its quite possible they may have bagged it because it was such a big undertaking to create a new RIL from scratch.
will it be possible for ppl to port wp7 onto the desire? altho it's probably strictly not legal cos of the closedness of wp7..
honestly.. why?
How many times are we going to see the exact same question posted over and over (and over)? Did you think to search before posting? Wait, don't answer that, it's a stupid question since we all know the answer already (you're obviously pressed for time since you couldn't be bothered to type all of the letters in some of your words)
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you got more chance of getting windows 7 on your desire lol
+1 for wp7 on desire
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+1 for wp7 on desire
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well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom
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well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom
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Oh, is that all
AndroHero said:
well first of all your gunna have to buy a licence, then your going to have to brick a few desires while you modify your radio to work with the os, then all you have to do it write all the drivers and modify the desire's bootloader structure, and finaly cook a rom
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Pshhhhh, can do that in an evening...
Why W7 when android but rapes all other mobile OS?
People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.
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Why W7 when android but rapes all other mobile OS?
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i like android but it abso does not 'rapes all other....'. gpu acceleration of the UI, for some utterly retarded reason, is missing and that makes the phone laggy at times when you're multitasking.
modern phones like ours have gpus and the damn UI should have been hardware accelerated as of android 2.1.
our desires as they are now (2.2) with hard accel or the UI would make it iphone/winmo 7 smooth (winmo is smooth - see hte anandtech article on it).
that's what i want for my desire above anything else at the moment - well, that and the ability to do the absolutely 100% legal task of recording my calls.
google are so stupid sometimes. hopefully winmo and a decent webos phone will light a fire under em to get some of the basics right before moving on to something else.
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People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.
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Its harder than that. Yeah, Android can be ported to devices becaise its open source.
And how are there no good answers? I guess youve just completely ignored AndroHeros reply, and fhe 2 people who have quoted him... [/rage]
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fraW said:
People have bothered to run Android on iPhone, so why wouldn't people try to run WP7 on an Android Device?
HTC is releasing 5 phones at moment with WP7, some of them have similar HW to Desire.
People keep asking because there are no good answers to this topic.
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There have been plenty of good answers (which generally are "no, because WP7 is closed source"). The definition of a good answer usually is "the answer is more or less correct" whereas your definition of a good answer appears to be the same as what my kids would define as a good answer in response to "dad can I..." questions - meaning "yes, of course you can."
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There have been plenty of good answers (which generally are "no, because WP7 is closed source"). The definition of a good answer usually is "the answer is more or less correct" whereas your definition of a good answer appears to be the same as what my kids would define as a good answer in response to "dad can I..." questions - meaning "yes, of course you can."
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+1
Indeed!
Just because people don't like the answer that's given doesn't make it a bad answer, or any less correct (assuming it is correct!).
And there is *no* excuse for not using search. From the forum rules:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Note that this is rule 1! The OP is not a newbie, so should have known better!
Regards,
Dave
Sure WP7 is closed source, but closed source has never stopped devs before.
The answer "No" with nothing else following it is generally a really bad answer, for many reasons.
It is possible to port WP7 to desire, the question is rather Who and When then If.
People said that the PS3 NEVER will be hacked, look what happened 4 years later.
Don't be so closed minded.
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I don't really understand the pessimism. Many handsets that didn't get officially WinMo 6.5 EVER, got it from ROM chefs here at XDA. Why should it be different this time?
This has been asked and answered quite a few times. Search and Google are your friends.
Thread closed.
I dont know if this is the appropriate forum but i think it would be cool if we could get windows phone 7 running on our EVOs, the HD2 recently got it and its similar in hardware so i dont see why it wouldnt be possible
+1 That would be sweet!
Well first wrong forum. Second yeah, it would be cool but if you look at the rom for the hd2 there are a lot of tiles still not working. Also the hd2 is GSM and there are GSM wp7 phone out. Without a wp7 phone on cdma it is hard as getting the radios to work is difficult. At least hat was the impression I had.
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Well first wrong forum. Second yeah, it would be cool but if you look at the rom for the hd2 there are a lot of tiles still not working. Also the hd2 is GSM and there are GSM wp7 phone out. Without a wp7 phone on cdma it is hard as getting the radios to work is difficult. At least hat was the impression I had.
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That don't mean nothing. The acer liquid is only gsm and there is a port of that for the EVO.
+10 on this, I looked at one the other day and those things are pretty sweet. Absolutely love android but this would still be an awesome port.
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Well first wrong forum.
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Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.
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Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.
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+1, exactly what I was wondering
mattykinsx said:
Why is this wrong forum?
It's a development related request.
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corybucher said:
+1, exactly what I was wondering
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Development section is for releases, not questions
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Development section is for releases, not questions
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It should be reworded but it's basically a request.
And being how it's a developmental issue it seems to be the right place for it.
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It should be reworded but it's basically a request.
And being how it's a developmental issue it seems to be the right place for it.
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It's still not a release though. As soon as some work is (if ever) started on it, this would be the correct section.
You're in the right forum, don't worry
Does anyone else thing that the WP7 look is incredibly ugly, or is it just me? haha
It would be quite wonderful to port WP7 to a phone like the EVO. But I believe it will be a daunting task as the HD2 has it easy(ish) they have windows mobile already installed on the device. If there is a similar device with the same hardware as the EVO running WP7 then it might be easier.
Drivers are the hardest to get working, the software could problably be made to work relatively easy. But without drivers to communicate with the cpu, storage, display, and etc there would not be much to see at all even if the software was able to run.
Plus and from my understanding that WP7 is pretty locked down at the moment and not all features would be accessible. Though that is a thought without any research into the subject.
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Plus and from my understanding that WP7 is pretty locked down at the moment and not all features would be accessible. Though that is a thought without any research into the subject.
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Yeah, I don't believe they have the full API for the camera among several other things.
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You're in the right forum, don't worry
Does anyone else thing that the WP7 look is incredibly ugly, or is it just me? haha
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I agree 100%. It was designed for tweenagers to be able to do all their social networking. Its kin 2.0 and they are even considering adding a new 'kin' studio. Personally, I don't recommend trying to port it over to an android device as Microsoft might not take too kindly to the licensing issue.
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If there is a similar device with the same hardware as the EVO running WP7 then it might be easier.
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HTC HD7 is a pretty much an HD2 with WP7 if I'm not mistaken...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818607
The hd2 is pretty much a evo just GSM.
flame and troll and flame and troll and bash someone for bringing up a great idea now back to flame and troll and flame and troll.
To the OP love the idea hope to see it come to light, ill definitely try it if someone can do it.
devs should not waste time with other OS's. reason being is that too much work is needed just to get everything working, and thats the job of the manufacturer. i rather they spend it adding/improving features to the solid foundation we have already, android.
plus android is free, windows is not and nor htc or you paid for windows on the evo so even if they had a fully working port you'd somehow have to get a license from MS and since they only sell oem license to manufacturer dont know how you could even legally get one. just my 2 cents
This would be REALLY sweet, but i dont see it working out until a CDMA WP7 is released, porting from GSM is 1000x harder to get working real well E.X. - Desire HD/Acer liquid ports.
I was in the microsoft store at my mall, they said a sprint CMDA WP7 is due this year. I'd be willing to bet itll be ported within a week after its released.