I have had several issues with the 4.4.2 OTA update on my I747 . The most annoying is the battery drain and "hot phone syndrome" which apparently is a bug related related to the camera daemon. Details can be found here http://tinyurl.com/KK-Batt
My goal is to throw 4.4.2 in the bit bucket and go back to stock 4.3 (when life was perfect), however I am leery of the older ROM's running on the newer NE4 bootloader and modem. I have done much reading on XDA for the past week (scortched eyeballs) but haven't found a 4.3 ROM that gives me any confidence ( they all state specifically to flash the MJB or MJ2 level firmware)
Has anyone sucessfully accomplished running 4.3 on the new NE4 bootloader / modem ?
I read a post from @DocHoliday77 that said this "should" be possible .....but I cannot afford a brick. The phone is my ISP, as I have no cable or DSL available , just a mediocre LTE signal from ATT (for which I am grateful)
I am considering this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504903
Thanks for any info or suggestions that you may have
You can flash any ROM you like as long as the ROM does not attempt to flash a new bootloader or modem.
The reason many ROMs require the 4.3 bootloader and modem is the fact that the ROM requires these two things to function properly.
audit13 said:
You can flash any ROM you like as long as the ROM does not attempt to flash a new bootloader or modem.
The reason many ROMs require the 4.3 bootloader and modem is the fact that the ROM requires these two things to function properly.
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Thanks for the response audit13 , that all makes perfect sense ..... I was hoping maybe someone out there had suffered the same plight and tried this solution.
I read that the problem won't be corrected until android "L" (they attempted to fix it in 4.4.3 but failed). To me this is like Ebola for Android so I don't understand the lack of urgency by Google to correct it ??? Also, one would think a developer would have suffered this plague and been motivated to fix it.
This is not necessarily a Google problem. Samsung ROMs use Samsung kernels, not stock Google kernels.
Samsung is on 4.4.2 while custom ROMs are at 4.4.4.
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This is not necessarily a Google problem. Samsung ROMs use Samsung kernels, not stock Google kernels.
Samsung is on 4.4.2 while custom ROMs are at 4.4.4.
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Yes but the problem exists in the Nexus line as well, looks like Sam inherited it in the source code. I have thought about trying a different kernel , but IDK if the problem is with the kernel or the daemon or a combination of both.
@audit13 since I am mostly a NOOB here maybe you can help me. I am about to try a custom ROM but am leery that they may mess with my bootloader and modem (NE4) is that possible or typical when you flash a ROM? or do they always state it if they do?
I was running the latest version of Liquid Smooth 4.4.4 and never experienced excessive battery drain or a hot phone on my Nexus 4. After a few days, I installed a custom kernel and my battery life improved but not by very much. Maybe I have been lucky with my Nexus 4. I tried Android L on my Nexus 4 for a while but didn't like the interface. Again, battery drain did not appear excessive on L.
I Don't have KK on my s3 as it is running 4.3 bootloader and modem with a custom ROM.
It is possible that a custom ROM will attempt to flash a bootloader or modem but I have never seen this happen other than a couple of ROMs for a Nexus 4. To ensure that a new bootloader/modem is not going to be flashed to your phone, make sure you look at the first few posts for instructions and warnings.
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I was running the latest version of Liquid Smooth 4.4.4 and never experienced excessive battery drain or a hot phone on my Nexus 4. After a few days, I installed a custom kernel and my battery life improved but not by very much. Maybe I have been lucky with my Nexus 4. I tried Android L on my Nexus 4 for a while but didn't like the interface. Again, battery drain did not appear excessive on L.
I Don't have KK on my s3 as it is running 4.3 bootloader and modem with a custom ROM.
It is possible that a custom ROM will attempt to flash a bootloader or modem but I have never seen this happen other than a couple of ROMs for a Nexus 4. To ensure that a new bootloader/modem is not going to be flashed to your phone, make sure you look at the first few posts for instructions and warnings.
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Thanks for the feedback @audit13 much appreciated ...... I feel better now. I think I will try upgrading first since there has been no specific feedback on downgrading and my gut tells me it may not be the best idea SlimKat 4.4.4 looks interesting.
Hopefully you will not see a post from me in the future that starts with HELP !!!
I also have never seen a rom that flashes the bootloader or modem. Doing so would be a HUGE mistake!
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I also have never seen a rom that flashes the bootloader or modem. Doing so would be a HUGE mistake!
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@DocHoliday77 ....... Thanks Doc
Related
For no valid reasons AT&T Galaxy S3 stock ROM I747UCDLK3 has been nowhere to be found for download.
Both links from Sammobile and Samsung-updates only says "This file is either removed due to copyright claim or is deleted by the uploader"
There must be something fishy goin on right here, they don't even released the full stock of recent UCDMG2 update. This is the first time I heard somebody filed copyright infringement of those stock firmware? Why the heck it's only the UCDLK3 and not all other older stock versions like LEM and LG1. So watch out AT&T subscribers!
Its still up in the development forum if needed.
It can still be flashed from the official KIES software.
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Its still up in the development forum if needed.
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It can still be flashed from the official KIES software.
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I think the thing is not that can't find file, but that he noticed that specific file is target for ©/unloaded.
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For no valid reasons AT&T Galaxy S3 stock ROM I747UCDLK3 has been nowhere to be found for download.
Both links from Sammobile and Samsung-updates only says "This file is either removed due to copyright claim or is deleted by the uploader"
There must be something fishy goin on right here, they don't even released the full stock of recent UCDMG2 update. This is the first time I heard somebody filed copyright infringement of those stock firmware? Why the heck it's only the UCDLK3 and not all other older stock versions like LEM and LG1. So watch out AT&T subscribers!
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4.1.1 and earlier can be easily unlocked thru dialpad... calculator then dial pad for tablets like tab 2. Can't think of a more money hungry reason. AT&T... Rethink Enslavement
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4.1.1 and earlier can be easily unlocked thru dialpad... calculator then dial pad for tablets like tab 2. Can't think of a more money hungry reason. AT&T... Rethink Enslavement
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I think it's more because of the boot loader update... Just to avoid idiots bricking their phones flashing software with odin. It was removed for avoidance of disaster...
Maybe
DexedrineXR said:
I think it's more because of the boot loader update... Just to avoid idiots bricking their phones flashing software with odin. It was removed for avoidance of disaster...
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But why take down the stock firmware? I just needed it to fix auro rotation in one of my kids s3. I found it with help from an op anyway and it did the trick. I just remember 4.1.1 and earlier were simple to unlock. 4.1.2 done away with that method. 4.1.2 is still available for download also. I elieve 4.0.4 is too though, so my theory has some holes in it if it is. Whats tough is finding US stock firmware for sgh-i497. I flashed umama1 or umama2 and lost my wifi for a day. Found 1 rom finally and fixed it with 4.0.4. Need to find or make a JB rom for it after it gets repaired y Samsung. LCD went bad Gotta update N S3 to kk soon also... I never like flashing a new bootloader and knox bugs me 8n the new version.
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I think it's more because of the boot loader update... Just to avoid idiots bricking their phones flashing software with odin. It was removed for avoidance of disaster...
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You were right about the bootloader, but wrong with the reason. Its identical to the S4 bootloader aside from the S4 having a critical value of '1' in this code somewhere... Thing us though, that the LK3 bootloader could remain intact and signed, therefore flashed and accepted by the S4 as an update... That us IF it turns out to be truly identical lol. I got a lotta code to read over. Caffeine time.
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I am VERY new to all of this. I had a Windows 640, which I hated. And got this S3, I love everything except the os. (Previous device Sprint S4 w/lollipop). Anyway, I have the 4.1.1 os. Its rooted to Metro (was AT&T). But I want to upgrade the os to slimkat 9.0. I just don't have a clue what I need or how to do it. And can it be done w/o pc? As a note (included r screenshots). I have supersu, it has a feature to "full root", do I want to mess with that? If so, what are the benefits. I don't want to brick this and want to learn how. Maybe someday try to unlock sim on Sprint S4 ( has knox)!
Anyone who can help with the right info will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
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SGH-I747. ROOTED
AND VER: 4.1.1
BASEBAND: UCDLK3
TWRP (BASIC) RECOVERY
DRIVER NAME d2att
ROM INSTALLER APP Changelog 1.2.6.2
GOO MANAGER
SUPERSU V2.46
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I am VERY new to all of this. I had a Windows 640, which I hated. And got this S3, I love everything except the os. (Previous device Sprint S4 w/lollipop). Anyway, I have the 4.1.1 os. Its rooted to Metro (was AT&T). But I want to upgrade the os to slimkat 9.0. I just don't have a clue what I need or how to do it. And can it be done w/o pc? As a note (included r screenshots). I have supersu, it has a feature to "full root", do I want to mess with that? If so, what are the benefits. I don't want to brick this and want to learn how. Maybe someday try to unlock sim on Sprint S4 ( has knox)!
Anyone who can help with the right info will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Tried to upload sshots but couldn't. Here's the info
SGH-I747. ROOTED
AND VER: 4.1.1
BASEBAND: UCDLK3
TWRP (BASIC) RECOVERY
DRIVER NAME d2att
ROM INSTALLER APP Changelog 1.2.6.2
GOO MANAGER
SUPERSU V2.46
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Before doing anything else, I would recommend doing the free sim (carrier) unlock while you are still on 4.1.1. This will give you more options in the future. The method can be found in these forums.
If you were on AT&T I would say there is a chance you could take OTA updates to get to a bootloader that would work with SlimKat 9.0. I don't imagine you can do this.
Just noticed you have TWRP. Which version do you have? you will need a fairly new version to flash SlimKat 9.0 and a newer bootloader and modem, check HERE for both .tar and .img files.
You will probably be able to run slimKat from the MJB bootloader and modem (from the 4.3 rom). You could even do so with the MJ2 bootloader and modem, but you would need a custom kernel such as ktoonsez to do so. If MJB does not work well for you NE4 definitely would, it is from the 4.4.2 release.
Thank you for your response. After posting, I did a root check and found that the phone had only been partially rooted. I downloaded the apk root master. From there I had already downloaded the slimkat 7.0, I was mildly impressed, and now desperate as this is my only working device. Plus, I was terrified I was about to brick it. Anyway, I found LiquidSmooth KitKat os. 4.4.4, downloaded it plus gapps. Everything seems great! Still don't get the connectivity Metro shows for my area, but no bad. But I do have an issue with the front camera. When you take a pic, the phone reboots. The gapps came with Google camera. Tried the camera 360...exact same issue. Not that big a deal. I know have far more flexibility with my service provider in the settings.
So, thanks again for the info. I still have a SCH-720T I wanna do a sim unlock. Between Sprint,Knox and lollipop. Everything I've read says I've got my work cut out !
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Thank you for your response. After posting, I did a root check and found that the phone had only been partially rooted. I downloaded the apk root master. From there I had already downloaded the slimkat 7.0, I was mildly impressed, and now desperate as this is my only working device. Plus, I was terrified I was about to brick it. Anyway, I found LiquidSmooth KitKat os. 4.4.4, downloaded it plus gapps. Everything seems great! Still don't get the connectivity Metro shows for my area, but no bad. But I do have an issue with the front camera. When you take a pic, the phone reboots. The gapps came with Google camera. Tried the camera 360...exact same issue. Not that big a deal. I know have far more flexibility with my service provider in the settings.
So, thanks again for the info. I still have a SCH-720T I wanna do a sim unlock. Between Sprint,Knox and lollipop. Everything I've read says I've got my work cut out !
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I have seen reports that Open Camera solves some of the camera issues on AOSP/CM roms.
I am beginning to have some problems with liquid smooth. I would still like the slimkat 9.0. I have twrp v 2.8.0.1, and recently downloaded the tar and img. I believe the modem I have is 4.1, I'm not sure as I just downloaded the liquid smooth KitKat 4.4.4. I'm still new to ALL of this. So I don't know how to get the most appropriate bootloader or kernal you mentioned. Is the slimkat 9.0 better? My connection really sucks now and so does batt life. SOS!!!!
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SOS!!!, Need help with bootloader and modem
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I am beginning to have some problems with liquid smooth. I would still like the slimkat 9.0. I have twrp v 2.8.0.1, and recently downloaded the tar and img. I believe the modem I have is 4.1, I'm not sure as I just downloaded the liquid smooth KitKat 4.4.4. I'm still new to ALL of this. So I don't know how to get the most appropriate bootloader or kernal you mentioned. Is the slimkat 9.0 better? My connection really sucks now and so does batt life. SOS!!!!
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. i recently installed the liquidsmooth 3.1 kitkat 4.4.4, but my baseband is DLK3. i have terrible connectivity issuses as you can imagine. here is the info i have and please i need help asap as this is my only working device. Its a SGH-I747, Liquidsmooth kk 4.4.4, v 3.1, baseband UCDLK3, kernal 3.4.91-deathly-1.7, TWRP v2.8.0.1. i tried to flash MJB but recieved a message "failed to recognize signature" Please help ObiWan, you're my only hope!
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. i recently installed the liquidsmooth 3.1 kitkat 4.4.4, but my baseband is DLK3. i have terrible connectivity issuses as you can imagine. here is the info i have and please i need help asap as this is my only working device. Its a SGH-I747, Liquidsmooth kk 4.4.4, v 3.1, baseband UCDLK3, kernal 3.4.91-deathly-1.7, TWRP v2.8.0.1. i tried to flash MJB but recieved a message "failed to recognize signature" Please help ObiWan, you're my only hope!
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Are you having phone connectivity issues or data connectivity issues? If it is phone connection you may need a newer modem.
Before changing modems, have you checked that your APN settings are correct? You may need to verify this with Metro.
Since you said you tried to install the MJB modem but received an error, I guess we need to try to eliminate that problem. Did you try to install only the modem or both modem and bootloader? I would recommend installing the MJB baseband (=Modem) and bootloader together. Once you get past MJB version you must keep the bootloader and baseband matched, so we may as well start that practice now. Is it possible you had a bad download of MJB? Re-downloading may solve the problem.
Do not skip MJB and go to NE4 or NJ1, both newer versions of the modem and bootloader. All I have read indicates that you should update in order without skipping or risk bricking the device.
Your version of TWRP is recent enough that it should work with the files you need. (TWRP is now up to 2.8.7.0 for the d2att.)
I have data issues. I've located 2 sources to download the modem/bootloader you mentioned. The first is out of Quebec and has a bad signature. My device also skips md5 , not sure about the issue there. And the other source has too much red tape before I can get to the down load. I have the correct network settings. But I should have excellent 4g. I don't and I believe there is a conflict with the baseband/modem and the 4.4.4 liquidsmooth os.
And thanks a ton for all the help you have given!
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Should I undo the changes? And start over building from the original 4.1.1? If so, how would I undo these? Then just link me the the appropriate thread to do this correctly. Again, you have been a great asset. Thank you.
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I have data issues. I've located 2 sources to download the modem/bootloader you mentioned. The first is out of Quebec and has a bad signature. My device also skips md5 , not sure about the issue there. And the other source has too much red tape before I can get to the down load. I have the correct network settings. But I should have excellent 4g. I don't and I believe there is a conflict with the baseband/modem and the 4.4.4 liquidsmooth os.
And thanks a ton for all the help you have given!
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Should I undo the changes? And start over building from the original 4.1.1? If so, how would I undo these? Then just link me the the appropriate thread to do this correctly. Again, you have been a great asset. Thank you.
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Frequently data issues are a matter of bad APN settings. Have you checked to see if yours are correct?
This thread by enewman17 discusses upgrading modem and bootloader starting at DLK3. He has links to bootloader and modem files. There should be no issues with signed files.
I have the SGH-I747
AND VER. :4.4.4
BASEBAND: MJ2
KERN #: 3.4.101 BMS-ASOP-G9528580
LS-KK-v3.1
BUILD: liquid_d2lte-userbug4.4.4KTU84P
8e3288b41test-keys
TWRP: 2.8.0.1
I have no WiFi, loses signal constantly, no front camera (shuts phone off when taking pictures )
Will not take MJ2 to NEW zip
And how do I UPGRADE TWRP?
Please someone help fix my issues. Connectivity was great at first, wasn't aware of WiFi issue till today. Front camera I can live without but if I can fix with the other issues, that would be great. The connection is stronger but drops like a rock, sometimes have to reboot phone.
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mcrue69 said:
I have the SGH-I747
AND VER. :4.4.4
BASEBAND: MJ2
KERN #: 3.4.101 BMS-ASOP-G9528580
LS-KK-v3.1
BUILD: liquid_d2lte-userbug4.4.4KTU84P
8e3288b41test-keys
TWRP: 2.8.0.1
I have no WiFi, loses signal constantly, no front camera (shuts phone off when taking pictures )
Will not take MJ2 to NEW zip
And how do I UPGRADE TWRP?
Please someone help fix my issues. Connectivity was great at first, wasn't aware of WiFi issue till today. Front camera I can live without but if I can fix with the other issues, that would be great. The connection is stronger but drops like a rock, sometimes have to reboot phone.
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That has information that may be the key to solving your issues.
I am extrapolating from much reading about people using the MJB, android 4.3, bootloader and modem on KitKat ROMs. The ROMs I read about were TouchWiz based, but the info may still apply. (MJ2 was the leaked release of MJB. The only difference I recall is that MJ2 did not include KNOX, and you can downgrade from it.)
People were having issues running the KK roms from both the MJ2 and MJB bootloader and modem while using the kernel that came with the custom TouchWiz ROMs. Their issues were solved by changing to one of two specific kernels. ibuddler developed one of the kernels, links to it can be found in the OP of LikeWise ROM. The other kernel was by ktoonsez, I don't have a link to his thread. You can not use a kernel for a TouchWiz ROM with an AOSP based ROM. Fortunately ktoonsez also has a kernel for AOSP roms.
Full disclosure, earlier Kitkat ROMs ran fine on MJ2 and MJB, it was later builds that needed either updated firmware or the custom kernels.
I found the kt747 zip and tried v3&v4 of ibuddler. Tried to reboot and each would not boot( over 10 min). But I was able to find this ad so far(fingers crossed) it seems to work just fine. I does switch from 4g to 3 when it is at idle.
3.4.101 leankernel-aosp_kitkat-9.9-+
lk_s3aosp_kitkat-v9.9.zip
I'm still trying it out,but so far so good. I'm still having issues getting an update for twrp. Speaking of updates. Liquidsmooth updated this morning. It updated the kernel and it was way wrong for my os.
Thank you so much for your patience with me in this journey into something I had no clue of. I still would like to update my bootloader and modem to NE4. But I want to wait before I screw something up. Do some more research as I am unable to use odin.
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I've been using a factory ROM Sprint Samsung Galaxy SPH-L710 happily for quite a while. Outside of custom launchers and Widget Locker type stuff I've been trying hard to live [happily] within the factory constraints. Then I discovered Tasker, Daily Roads Voyager, and a bunch of other really fun stuff. And down the rabbit hole I went.
So thus far I've rooted using the excellent Saferoot found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50744761
Now I want to be able to do nandroid backups so I can capture snapshot-in-time backups of my device. I keep seeing reference for using Snapshot on the Sprint S3 but the only sources I've seen for downloading Safestrap do not specifically reference the Sprint Galaxy S3 so I'm unsure if it's supported or not.
Safestrap site: http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/
XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605648
Does anyone know?
Thganks.
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gastric123 said:
I've been using a factory ROM Sprint Samsung Galaxy SPH-L710 happily for quite a while. Outside of custom launchers and Widget Locker type stuff I've been trying hard to live [happily] within the factory constraints. Then I discovered Tasker, Daily Roads Voyager, and a bunch of other really fun stuff. And down the rabbit hole I went.
So thus far I've rooted using the excellent Saferoot found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50744761
Now I want to be able to do nandroid backups so I can capture snapshot-in-time backups of my device. I keep seeing reference for using Snapshot on the Sprint S3 but the only sources I've seen for downloading Safestrap do not specifically reference the Sprint Galaxy S3 so I'm unsure if it's supported or not.
Safestrap site: http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/
XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605648
Does anyone know?
Thganks.
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You dont need safestrap on the sprint version of s3 since we dont have locked bootloaders. Its mainly for the variants with locked bootloaders. You can ODIN either TWRP, CWM or Philz.
It was my understanding that the latest OTA 4.3 release specifically locked the bootloader and installed Knox. Which is why I went with Saferoot to begin with.
The firmware only installed KNOX apps and bootloader. SO, you can remove KNOX from the phone but not the bootloader. NEVER try to downgrade the bootloader as you will brick. You are stuck on that bootloader until someone figures something out.
Edit: The bootloader is not locked.
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The firmware only installed KNOX apps and bootloader. SO, you can remove KNOX from the phone but not the bootloader. NEVER try to downgrade the bootloader as you will brick. You are stuck on that bootloader until someone figures something out.
Edit: The bootloader is not locked.
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So, the conclusion is there's no work around or tool to allow nandriod backups even after rooting the OTA 4.3 update. No Safestrap viable for this particular device and factory ROM?
You can create backups from CWM, TWRP or Philz at anytime even on 4.3 MK3 without any issues. There is no safestrap for the sprint variant only ATT and Verizon (to my knowledge).
For clarification then the Sprint variant can use odin safely? Are there specific ROMs that are we are limited to? I went the SafeRoot route myself but have been petrified to try anything else because it seems every post I read contradicts the one before it. I downloaded the Online Nandroid Backup app and it seems to be working. I landed here trying to educate myself on SafeStrap. All I want is 4.1.2 back on my phone. This OTA has totally made my once silky smooth handset a laggy battery sucking pos!
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I have used ODIN numerous times and have had no issues! You can flash any ROM you wish just dont downgrade the bootloader or you will brick. BTW, 4.3 is silky smooth for me! I have my S3 running at least 24hrs and around 2.5 to 3hrs screen time (moderate to heavy use) per charge.
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I have used ODIN numerous times and have had no issues! You can flash any ROM you wish just dont downgrade the bootloader or you will brick. BTW, 4.3 is silky smooth for me! I have my S3 running at least 24hrs and around 2.5 to 3hrs screen time (moderate to heavy use) per charge.
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Thanks. My stock device started freezing up intermittently and randomly locking up and rebooting. Typing is a joke because it will freeze mid sentence and then all the sudden crap out all the keystrokes like it had to stop and think about what it was doing. Also the Google Maps change and YouTube change annoy the hell out of me. Maps will not lock in on GPS unless i pull down the info bar from the top of the screen and toggle the GPS button off and on. Just a major frustration. This is the only phone I've had to date that I had absolutely no complaints about until 4.3. Sorry for the rant but thanks for the info.
JD
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Thanks. My stock device started freezing up intermittently and randomly locking up and rebooting. Typing is a joke because it will freeze mid sentence and then all the sudden crap out all the keystrokes like it had to stop and think about what it was doing. Also the Google Maps change and YouTube change annoy the hell out of me. Maps will not lock in on GPS unless i pull down the info bar from the top of the screen and toggle the GPS button off and on. Just a major frustration. This is the only phone I've had to date that I had absolutely no complaints about until 4.3. Sorry for the rant but thanks for the info.
JD
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WOW....sorry to hear that. Go ahead and try some of the 4.3 custom roms as they are very fast, stable and smooth. Good luck!
jdougs said:
My stock device started freezing up intermittently and randomly locking up and rebooting. Typing is a joke because it will freeze mid sentence and then all the sudden crap out all the keystrokes like it had to stop and think about what it was doing. Also the Google Maps change and YouTube change annoy the hell out of me. Maps will not lock in on GPS unless i pull down the info bar from the top of the screen and toggle the GPS button off and on. Just a major frustration. This is the only phone I've had to date that I had absolutely no complaints about until 4.3. Sorry for the rant but thanks for the info.
JD
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I've been perfectly happy with 4.3 and have had no issues, in fact it's made my S3 the first Android phone I haven't specifically hated after using an iPhone for almost 2 years. Everything works great, and it's fast, and I've loaded all sorts of custom launchers and lock screens and now have it rooted and running various Tasker automation. Great stuff. I'm finally sold on Android.
Regarding your random reboots/locks I had a Galaxy S2 with a dying power button switch that used to do that for months before I finally attributed it to the power switch specifically (when it finally died completely I finally realized it was the switch all along). That doesn't explain any other issues you're having, but it's something to consider. If you're rooted you can probably disable the power switch and assign some other hard button to work as the power button for a couple days as a test.
Good luck.
Thanks for the insight. I don't think it's hardware related since it was never an issue before the OTA but I am willing to try anything and will try it if I ever get the SuperSU to keep from randomly stopping.
JD
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The firmware only installed KNOX apps and bootloader. SO, you can remove KNOX from the phone but not the bootloader. NEVER try to downgrade the bootloader as you will brick. You are stuck on that bootloader until someone figures something out.
Edit: The bootloader is not locked.
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I really need some help here. I'm looking to switch to the s3 but all this talk of knox and stuff is really turning me away from it because rooting and using custom roms are a big thing to me, i just need a device that can support it well. So what exactly do you mean when you say downgrade the bootloader? and would i be able to flash roms that run kitkat? or would i have to update my device to kitkat and root while running 4.4?
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I really need some help here. I'm looking to switch to the s3 but all this talk of knox and stuff is really turning me away from it because rooting and using custom roms are a big thing to me, i just need a device that can support it well. So what exactly do you mean when you say downgrade the bootloader? and would i be able to flash roms that run kitkat? or would i have to update my device to kitkat and root while running 4.4?
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This is what I would do if you dont have 4.4:
1 Odin the official stock ND8
2 Flash TWRP 2.6.3.0
3 Go to the dev thread and folow the direction in OP and flash Wicked X 7.3 (custom 4.4) & thank bilgerryan
If you have 4.4 then proceed with 2 & 3!
You will then have a custom 4.4 rom on your S3!
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This is what I would do if you dont have 4.4:
1 Odin the official stock ND8
2 Flash TWRP 2.6.3.0
3 Go to the dev thread and folow the direction in OP and flash Wicked X 7.3 (custom 4.4) & thank bilgerryan
If you have 4.4 then proceed with 2 & 3!
You will then have a custom 4.4 rom on your S3!
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2. flash Philz recovery cause that one supposedly works best with ND8
I'm unsure of what exactly is causing the problem but My T-Mo Galaxy Note 3(SM-900t. Hltetmo) is unable to successfully flash any custom roms. It's running the official 4.4.2 kitkat as well as the bootloader installed from kies 3. Currenty I have a beta version of twrp installed that works with the 4.4 bootloader and I've tried a few different roms with varying issues. Is it just not possible to flash custom roms on this official bootloader currently?
The roms I've tried flashing to name two are Tweaked and W03's Slim. I've only done clean installs and even cleaned out all of the SD card / internal before attempting but the roms either won't boot, and the phone just heats up or loop endlessly. I made a nandroid backup of my stock rooted which I have no problem going back to after each unsuccessful attempt but I've yet to figure out why. If anyone has any tips or advice it's much appreciated.
peanutsrule said:
I'm unsure of what exactly is causing the problem but My T-Mo Galaxy Note 3(SM-900t. Hltetmo) is unable to successfully flash any custom roms. It's running the official 4.4.2 kitkat as well as the bootloader installed from kies 3. Currenty I have a beta version of twrp installed that works with the 4.4 bootloader and I've tried a few different roms with varying issues. Is it just not possible to flash custom roms on this official bootloader currently?
The roms I've tried flashing to name two are Tweaked and W03's Slim. I've only done clean installs and even cleaned out all of the SD card / internal before attempting but the roms either won't boot, and the phone just heats up or loop endlessly. I made a nandroid backup of my stock rooted which I have no problem going back to after each unsuccessful attempt but I've yet to figure out why. If anyone has any tips or advice it's much appreciated.
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Tweaked is 4.3 the ROMs are not interchangable
TWEAKED 2.0 ELEMENT V3.0 NOTE 3
That would definitely explain it for tweaked, but Will's seems to be a kitkat 4.4.2 rom. I'm unable to get that one to work either when many seem to have no issue. Due to my post count I'm not able to directly ask in each of their threads so there's it's anything I can do I'm willing. I'll research if it's possible to downgrade back to 4.3 but from what I read already it doesn't look like it.
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After some research it looks like Will's is modded in some way to have kitkat's version with the 4.3 loader. So that would explain why I'm unable to flash that as well.
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That would definitely explain it for tweaked, but Will's seems to be a kitkat 4.4.2 rom. I'm unable to get that one to work either when many seem to have no issue. Due to my post count I'm not able to directly ask in each of their threads so there's it's anything I can do I'm willing. I'll research if it's possible to downgrade back to 4.3 but from what I read already it doesn't look like it.
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After some research it looks like Will's is modded in some way to have kitkat's version with the 4.3 loader. So that would explain why I'm unable to flash that as well.
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They need different sections here for this. One for 4.3 another for 4.4.2.
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It would probably help sort out things a lot better, yeah. Shame.. I didn't think an update could possibly go this bad but lesson learned. If anything.. I've had zero problems with kitkat it actually does run better and smoother but the locked down issues are unacceptable with Knox.
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It would probably help sort out things a lot better, yeah. Shame.. I didn't think an update could possibly go this bad but lesson learned. If anything.. I've had zero problems with kitkat it actually does run better and smoother but the locked down issues are unacceptable with Knox.
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What lock down issue.
TWEAKED 2.0 ELEMENT V3.0 NOTE 3
From what I understand once updated to the official 4.4.2 kitkat the updated bootloader in 4.4 makes it so you can't downgrade. It's much more locked down compared to the official 4.3 JB. As such I'm stuck on 4.4. From my research there's only one model of the note 3 that can downgrade and it's the W8 model.
Im currently trying to run wicked v1 kitkat but I can't get past the galaxy note 3 logo when I try to install the rom I heard I had to be on the new bootloader to run evil1art's new rom since i come from a 4.3 rom with an old bootloader any help would be much appreciated.
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Im currently trying to run wicked v1 kitkat but I can't get past the galaxy note 3 logo when I try to install the rom I heard I had to be on the new bootloader to run evil1art's new rom since i come from a 4.3 rom with an old bootloader any help would be much appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
thats if you dont mind upgrading to the new bootloader, which you cant downgrade from.
as for me, i am still trying to read up the pros and cons before i jump to the kitkat bootloader.
I don't see any draw-backs to upgrading the bootloader and modem, and did it about a month ago or so. The only down-side is that you can't go back to 4.3 roms.
Odin to stock, accept OTA, and then you can reroot and be on your way!
Sent from my ZeroLemon Powered Galaxy Note 3
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I don't see any draw-backs to upgrading the bootloader and modem, and did it about a month ago or so. The only down-side is that you can't go back to 4.3 roms.
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Are you getting bad battery life? Seems like there are some people who wants to go back to 4.3 because of battery life
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Are you getting bad battery life? Seems like there are some people who wants to go back to 4.3 because of battery life
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Nope, I get better battery life it seems.
Before anybody reads this and tries to update the bootloader, be aware that you could end up with a hard brick. Happened to me & Samsung fixed it by replacing the board but it was not worth it since the 4.4.2 bootloader offers zero benefits over the old one and wasted 2 weeks waiting for it to get back. Maybe if you're stuck on Jizzer roms and got ants in your pants for the 4.4 update then I wish you best luck in your update quest.
Back on BeanStalk and I won't be doing any more bootloader updates on this N900T.
My note 2 has always been stable on 4.1.1 stock and I debloated it myself. So when ever an update came out rather than risking my stable phone I would just flash the new baseband from it and keep 4.1.1, until tesh stopped updating his thread. Recently my screen cracked so I used my insurance for the first time. The new phone came with 4.3 and the knox bootloader plus the CMK7 baseband. I did a cwm backup on my cracked screen phone. Used odin to flash cwm onto the new phone, which did cause knox to show I did but who really cares since the phone is so far out of warranty anyway. Then loaded my cwm backup onto the new phone. What I ended up with is my nice stable phone with everything working plus the new baseband CMK7 stayed but the bootloader is still the new knox one. Everything is working just fine, so whats the big thing with everyone saying you cant go back from 4.3? I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 just fine via cwm.
Cool story bro
Joe333x said:
My note 2 has always been stable on 4.1.1 stock and I debloated it myself. So when ever an update came out rather than risking my stable phone I would just flash the new baseband from it and keep 4.1.1, until tesh stopped updating his thread. Recently my screen cracked so I used my insurance for the first time. The new phone came with 4.3 and the knox bootloader plus the CMK7 baseband. I did a cwm backup on my cracked screen phone. Used odin to flash cwm onto the new phone, which did cause knox to show I did but who really cares since the phone is so far out of warranty anyway. Then loaded my cwm backup onto the new phone. What I ended up with is my nice stable phone with everything working plus the new baseband CMK7 stayed but the bootloader is still the new knox one. Everything is working just fine, so whats the big thing with everyone saying you cant go back from 4.3? I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 just fine via cwm.
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If you use PC Odin to go backwards there are uncomfortable results.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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Cool story bro
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How many of your posts are worthless? All of them? You sir are whats wrong with xda. The fact that every one thinks you cant go backwards from 4.3 just got proven wrong as long as you do it with cwm and not odin apparently.
There are multiple threads regarding your cool story.
The issue people are having is not being able to downgrade to 4.1.x OS. Its the bootloader that people were discussing and when coming from a 4.3 bootloader is impossible to downgrade to the 4.1.x bootloader/s.
Maybe doing a search in the future will get you some answers about the whole 4.3 bootloader and downgrading that you're taking about.
Good luck to you..
Ok but like I said I have the 4.3 bootloader and a 4.1 rom with no issues using cwm. So there is no issue with having a 4.1.1 rom and the 4.3 bootloader. If you have nothing constructive to add then dont post anything.
I mostly Lurk on XDA, But you sir are a different kind of stupid.
Clearly you haven't played with 4.1 long enough to see what the issues are, Its been well known that you can return to a older rom.
but knox has issues by doing so.
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Ok but like I said I have the 4.3 bootloader and a 4.1 rom with no issues using cwm. So there is no issue with having a 4.1.1 rom and the 4.3 bootloader. If you have nothing constructive to add then dont post anything.
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I mostly Lurk on XDA, But you sir are a different kind of stupid.
Clearly you haven't played with 4.1 long enough to see what the issues are, Its been well known that you can return to a older rom.
but knox has issues by doing so.
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Lol long enough? How about since release day when I bought it? My phone is stable as can be with no force closes completely self deblaoted, working wifi tether, bunch of xposed modules and everything is pefect. For the most part the OS that a phone releases with is typically the most stable, there are obviously exceptions but I have been doing this since the G1 days and as soon as you start getting flash happy is when you have issues. Only thing I update is the baseband/modem. Also dont name call over the Internet its childish but then again most people on here are typically teenagers. Could you elaborate on the issues knox should be causing me but isn't?
This topic has been mentioned many times, there's no room for the useless bickering going on in here.
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Have a great day!