Im currently trying to run wicked v1 kitkat but I can't get past the galaxy note 3 logo when I try to install the rom I heard I had to be on the new bootloader to run evil1art's new rom since i come from a 4.3 rom with an old bootloader any help would be much appreciated.
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Im currently trying to run wicked v1 kitkat but I can't get past the galaxy note 3 logo when I try to install the rom I heard I had to be on the new bootloader to run evil1art's new rom since i come from a 4.3 rom with an old bootloader any help would be much appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
thats if you dont mind upgrading to the new bootloader, which you cant downgrade from.
as for me, i am still trying to read up the pros and cons before i jump to the kitkat bootloader.
I don't see any draw-backs to upgrading the bootloader and modem, and did it about a month ago or so. The only down-side is that you can't go back to 4.3 roms.
Odin to stock, accept OTA, and then you can reroot and be on your way!
Sent from my ZeroLemon Powered Galaxy Note 3
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I don't see any draw-backs to upgrading the bootloader and modem, and did it about a month ago or so. The only down-side is that you can't go back to 4.3 roms.
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Are you getting bad battery life? Seems like there are some people who wants to go back to 4.3 because of battery life
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Are you getting bad battery life? Seems like there are some people who wants to go back to 4.3 because of battery life
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Nope, I get better battery life it seems.
Before anybody reads this and tries to update the bootloader, be aware that you could end up with a hard brick. Happened to me & Samsung fixed it by replacing the board but it was not worth it since the 4.4.2 bootloader offers zero benefits over the old one and wasted 2 weeks waiting for it to get back. Maybe if you're stuck on Jizzer roms and got ants in your pants for the 4.4 update then I wish you best luck in your update quest.
Back on BeanStalk and I won't be doing any more bootloader updates on this N900T.
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I've been using a factory ROM Sprint Samsung Galaxy SPH-L710 happily for quite a while. Outside of custom launchers and Widget Locker type stuff I've been trying hard to live [happily] within the factory constraints. Then I discovered Tasker, Daily Roads Voyager, and a bunch of other really fun stuff. And down the rabbit hole I went.
So thus far I've rooted using the excellent Saferoot found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50744761
Now I want to be able to do nandroid backups so I can capture snapshot-in-time backups of my device. I keep seeing reference for using Snapshot on the Sprint S3 but the only sources I've seen for downloading Safestrap do not specifically reference the Sprint Galaxy S3 so I'm unsure if it's supported or not.
Safestrap site: http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/
XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605648
Does anyone know?
Thganks.
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gastric123 said:
I've been using a factory ROM Sprint Samsung Galaxy SPH-L710 happily for quite a while. Outside of custom launchers and Widget Locker type stuff I've been trying hard to live [happily] within the factory constraints. Then I discovered Tasker, Daily Roads Voyager, and a bunch of other really fun stuff. And down the rabbit hole I went.
So thus far I've rooted using the excellent Saferoot found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50744761
Now I want to be able to do nandroid backups so I can capture snapshot-in-time backups of my device. I keep seeing reference for using Snapshot on the Sprint S3 but the only sources I've seen for downloading Safestrap do not specifically reference the Sprint Galaxy S3 so I'm unsure if it's supported or not.
Safestrap site: http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/
XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605648
Does anyone know?
Thganks.
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You dont need safestrap on the sprint version of s3 since we dont have locked bootloaders. Its mainly for the variants with locked bootloaders. You can ODIN either TWRP, CWM or Philz.
It was my understanding that the latest OTA 4.3 release specifically locked the bootloader and installed Knox. Which is why I went with Saferoot to begin with.
The firmware only installed KNOX apps and bootloader. SO, you can remove KNOX from the phone but not the bootloader. NEVER try to downgrade the bootloader as you will brick. You are stuck on that bootloader until someone figures something out.
Edit: The bootloader is not locked.
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The firmware only installed KNOX apps and bootloader. SO, you can remove KNOX from the phone but not the bootloader. NEVER try to downgrade the bootloader as you will brick. You are stuck on that bootloader until someone figures something out.
Edit: The bootloader is not locked.
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So, the conclusion is there's no work around or tool to allow nandriod backups even after rooting the OTA 4.3 update. No Safestrap viable for this particular device and factory ROM?
You can create backups from CWM, TWRP or Philz at anytime even on 4.3 MK3 without any issues. There is no safestrap for the sprint variant only ATT and Verizon (to my knowledge).
For clarification then the Sprint variant can use odin safely? Are there specific ROMs that are we are limited to? I went the SafeRoot route myself but have been petrified to try anything else because it seems every post I read contradicts the one before it. I downloaded the Online Nandroid Backup app and it seems to be working. I landed here trying to educate myself on SafeStrap. All I want is 4.1.2 back on my phone. This OTA has totally made my once silky smooth handset a laggy battery sucking pos!
JD
I have used ODIN numerous times and have had no issues! You can flash any ROM you wish just dont downgrade the bootloader or you will brick. BTW, 4.3 is silky smooth for me! I have my S3 running at least 24hrs and around 2.5 to 3hrs screen time (moderate to heavy use) per charge.
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I have used ODIN numerous times and have had no issues! You can flash any ROM you wish just dont downgrade the bootloader or you will brick. BTW, 4.3 is silky smooth for me! I have my S3 running at least 24hrs and around 2.5 to 3hrs screen time (moderate to heavy use) per charge.
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Thanks. My stock device started freezing up intermittently and randomly locking up and rebooting. Typing is a joke because it will freeze mid sentence and then all the sudden crap out all the keystrokes like it had to stop and think about what it was doing. Also the Google Maps change and YouTube change annoy the hell out of me. Maps will not lock in on GPS unless i pull down the info bar from the top of the screen and toggle the GPS button off and on. Just a major frustration. This is the only phone I've had to date that I had absolutely no complaints about until 4.3. Sorry for the rant but thanks for the info.
JD
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Thanks. My stock device started freezing up intermittently and randomly locking up and rebooting. Typing is a joke because it will freeze mid sentence and then all the sudden crap out all the keystrokes like it had to stop and think about what it was doing. Also the Google Maps change and YouTube change annoy the hell out of me. Maps will not lock in on GPS unless i pull down the info bar from the top of the screen and toggle the GPS button off and on. Just a major frustration. This is the only phone I've had to date that I had absolutely no complaints about until 4.3. Sorry for the rant but thanks for the info.
JD
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WOW....sorry to hear that. Go ahead and try some of the 4.3 custom roms as they are very fast, stable and smooth. Good luck!
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My stock device started freezing up intermittently and randomly locking up and rebooting. Typing is a joke because it will freeze mid sentence and then all the sudden crap out all the keystrokes like it had to stop and think about what it was doing. Also the Google Maps change and YouTube change annoy the hell out of me. Maps will not lock in on GPS unless i pull down the info bar from the top of the screen and toggle the GPS button off and on. Just a major frustration. This is the only phone I've had to date that I had absolutely no complaints about until 4.3. Sorry for the rant but thanks for the info.
JD
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I've been perfectly happy with 4.3 and have had no issues, in fact it's made my S3 the first Android phone I haven't specifically hated after using an iPhone for almost 2 years. Everything works great, and it's fast, and I've loaded all sorts of custom launchers and lock screens and now have it rooted and running various Tasker automation. Great stuff. I'm finally sold on Android.
Regarding your random reboots/locks I had a Galaxy S2 with a dying power button switch that used to do that for months before I finally attributed it to the power switch specifically (when it finally died completely I finally realized it was the switch all along). That doesn't explain any other issues you're having, but it's something to consider. If you're rooted you can probably disable the power switch and assign some other hard button to work as the power button for a couple days as a test.
Good luck.
Thanks for the insight. I don't think it's hardware related since it was never an issue before the OTA but I am willing to try anything and will try it if I ever get the SuperSU to keep from randomly stopping.
JD
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The firmware only installed KNOX apps and bootloader. SO, you can remove KNOX from the phone but not the bootloader. NEVER try to downgrade the bootloader as you will brick. You are stuck on that bootloader until someone figures something out.
Edit: The bootloader is not locked.
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I really need some help here. I'm looking to switch to the s3 but all this talk of knox and stuff is really turning me away from it because rooting and using custom roms are a big thing to me, i just need a device that can support it well. So what exactly do you mean when you say downgrade the bootloader? and would i be able to flash roms that run kitkat? or would i have to update my device to kitkat and root while running 4.4?
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I really need some help here. I'm looking to switch to the s3 but all this talk of knox and stuff is really turning me away from it because rooting and using custom roms are a big thing to me, i just need a device that can support it well. So what exactly do you mean when you say downgrade the bootloader? and would i be able to flash roms that run kitkat? or would i have to update my device to kitkat and root while running 4.4?
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This is what I would do if you dont have 4.4:
1 Odin the official stock ND8
2 Flash TWRP 2.6.3.0
3 Go to the dev thread and folow the direction in OP and flash Wicked X 7.3 (custom 4.4) & thank bilgerryan
If you have 4.4 then proceed with 2 & 3!
You will then have a custom 4.4 rom on your S3!
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This is what I would do if you dont have 4.4:
1 Odin the official stock ND8
2 Flash TWRP 2.6.3.0
3 Go to the dev thread and folow the direction in OP and flash Wicked X 7.3 (custom 4.4) & thank bilgerryan
If you have 4.4 then proceed with 2 & 3!
You will then have a custom 4.4 rom on your S3!
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2. flash Philz recovery cause that one supposedly works best with ND8
My note 2 has always been stable on 4.1.1 stock and I debloated it myself. So when ever an update came out rather than risking my stable phone I would just flash the new baseband from it and keep 4.1.1, until tesh stopped updating his thread. Recently my screen cracked so I used my insurance for the first time. The new phone came with 4.3 and the knox bootloader plus the CMK7 baseband. I did a cwm backup on my cracked screen phone. Used odin to flash cwm onto the new phone, which did cause knox to show I did but who really cares since the phone is so far out of warranty anyway. Then loaded my cwm backup onto the new phone. What I ended up with is my nice stable phone with everything working plus the new baseband CMK7 stayed but the bootloader is still the new knox one. Everything is working just fine, so whats the big thing with everyone saying you cant go back from 4.3? I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 just fine via cwm.
Cool story bro
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My note 2 has always been stable on 4.1.1 stock and I debloated it myself. So when ever an update came out rather than risking my stable phone I would just flash the new baseband from it and keep 4.1.1, until tesh stopped updating his thread. Recently my screen cracked so I used my insurance for the first time. The new phone came with 4.3 and the knox bootloader plus the CMK7 baseband. I did a cwm backup on my cracked screen phone. Used odin to flash cwm onto the new phone, which did cause knox to show I did but who really cares since the phone is so far out of warranty anyway. Then loaded my cwm backup onto the new phone. What I ended up with is my nice stable phone with everything working plus the new baseband CMK7 stayed but the bootloader is still the new knox one. Everything is working just fine, so whats the big thing with everyone saying you cant go back from 4.3? I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 just fine via cwm.
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If you use PC Odin to go backwards there are uncomfortable results.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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Cool story bro
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How many of your posts are worthless? All of them? You sir are whats wrong with xda. The fact that every one thinks you cant go backwards from 4.3 just got proven wrong as long as you do it with cwm and not odin apparently.
There are multiple threads regarding your cool story.
The issue people are having is not being able to downgrade to 4.1.x OS. Its the bootloader that people were discussing and when coming from a 4.3 bootloader is impossible to downgrade to the 4.1.x bootloader/s.
Maybe doing a search in the future will get you some answers about the whole 4.3 bootloader and downgrading that you're taking about.
Good luck to you..
Ok but like I said I have the 4.3 bootloader and a 4.1 rom with no issues using cwm. So there is no issue with having a 4.1.1 rom and the 4.3 bootloader. If you have nothing constructive to add then dont post anything.
I mostly Lurk on XDA, But you sir are a different kind of stupid.
Clearly you haven't played with 4.1 long enough to see what the issues are, Its been well known that you can return to a older rom.
but knox has issues by doing so.
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Ok but like I said I have the 4.3 bootloader and a 4.1 rom with no issues using cwm. So there is no issue with having a 4.1.1 rom and the 4.3 bootloader. If you have nothing constructive to add then dont post anything.
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I mostly Lurk on XDA, But you sir are a different kind of stupid.
Clearly you haven't played with 4.1 long enough to see what the issues are, Its been well known that you can return to a older rom.
but knox has issues by doing so.
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Lol long enough? How about since release day when I bought it? My phone is stable as can be with no force closes completely self deblaoted, working wifi tether, bunch of xposed modules and everything is pefect. For the most part the OS that a phone releases with is typically the most stable, there are obviously exceptions but I have been doing this since the G1 days and as soon as you start getting flash happy is when you have issues. Only thing I update is the baseband/modem. Also dont name call over the Internet its childish but then again most people on here are typically teenagers. Could you elaborate on the issues knox should be causing me but isn't?
This topic has been mentioned many times, there's no room for the useless bickering going on in here.
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Have a great day!
So long story short, I upgraded to 4.3 a while ago - rooted my phone - and as far as I knew then, I couldn't go back to the default stock phone. That's fine. Locked my phone away and got an old iPhone and used that.
But now (due to extenuating circumstances) I'm going to be stuck using my old S III and wanted to find out if there was a way for me to upgrade to 4.4.2 or to at least get back to a Stock (rooted or not) version of 4.3? I'm running a custom ROM (Slimbean) and don't really know where to look as I've been away so long and don't know what info is correct or not.
The links I posted here should help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54800327
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The links I posted here should help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54800327
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Thanks a bunch! Appreciate it!
I have had several issues with the 4.4.2 OTA update on my I747 . The most annoying is the battery drain and "hot phone syndrome" which apparently is a bug related related to the camera daemon. Details can be found here http://tinyurl.com/KK-Batt
My goal is to throw 4.4.2 in the bit bucket and go back to stock 4.3 (when life was perfect), however I am leery of the older ROM's running on the newer NE4 bootloader and modem. I have done much reading on XDA for the past week (scortched eyeballs) but haven't found a 4.3 ROM that gives me any confidence ( they all state specifically to flash the MJB or MJ2 level firmware)
Has anyone sucessfully accomplished running 4.3 on the new NE4 bootloader / modem ?
I read a post from @DocHoliday77 that said this "should" be possible .....but I cannot afford a brick. The phone is my ISP, as I have no cable or DSL available , just a mediocre LTE signal from ATT (for which I am grateful)
I am considering this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504903
Thanks for any info or suggestions that you may have
You can flash any ROM you like as long as the ROM does not attempt to flash a new bootloader or modem.
The reason many ROMs require the 4.3 bootloader and modem is the fact that the ROM requires these two things to function properly.
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You can flash any ROM you like as long as the ROM does not attempt to flash a new bootloader or modem.
The reason many ROMs require the 4.3 bootloader and modem is the fact that the ROM requires these two things to function properly.
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Thanks for the response audit13 , that all makes perfect sense ..... I was hoping maybe someone out there had suffered the same plight and tried this solution.
I read that the problem won't be corrected until android "L" (they attempted to fix it in 4.4.3 but failed). To me this is like Ebola for Android so I don't understand the lack of urgency by Google to correct it ??? Also, one would think a developer would have suffered this plague and been motivated to fix it.
This is not necessarily a Google problem. Samsung ROMs use Samsung kernels, not stock Google kernels.
Samsung is on 4.4.2 while custom ROMs are at 4.4.4.
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This is not necessarily a Google problem. Samsung ROMs use Samsung kernels, not stock Google kernels.
Samsung is on 4.4.2 while custom ROMs are at 4.4.4.
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Yes but the problem exists in the Nexus line as well, looks like Sam inherited it in the source code. I have thought about trying a different kernel , but IDK if the problem is with the kernel or the daemon or a combination of both.
@audit13 since I am mostly a NOOB here maybe you can help me. I am about to try a custom ROM but am leery that they may mess with my bootloader and modem (NE4) is that possible or typical when you flash a ROM? or do they always state it if they do?
I was running the latest version of Liquid Smooth 4.4.4 and never experienced excessive battery drain or a hot phone on my Nexus 4. After a few days, I installed a custom kernel and my battery life improved but not by very much. Maybe I have been lucky with my Nexus 4. I tried Android L on my Nexus 4 for a while but didn't like the interface. Again, battery drain did not appear excessive on L.
I Don't have KK on my s3 as it is running 4.3 bootloader and modem with a custom ROM.
It is possible that a custom ROM will attempt to flash a bootloader or modem but I have never seen this happen other than a couple of ROMs for a Nexus 4. To ensure that a new bootloader/modem is not going to be flashed to your phone, make sure you look at the first few posts for instructions and warnings.
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I was running the latest version of Liquid Smooth 4.4.4 and never experienced excessive battery drain or a hot phone on my Nexus 4. After a few days, I installed a custom kernel and my battery life improved but not by very much. Maybe I have been lucky with my Nexus 4. I tried Android L on my Nexus 4 for a while but didn't like the interface. Again, battery drain did not appear excessive on L.
I Don't have KK on my s3 as it is running 4.3 bootloader and modem with a custom ROM.
It is possible that a custom ROM will attempt to flash a bootloader or modem but I have never seen this happen other than a couple of ROMs for a Nexus 4. To ensure that a new bootloader/modem is not going to be flashed to your phone, make sure you look at the first few posts for instructions and warnings.
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Thanks for the feedback @audit13 much appreciated ...... I feel better now. I think I will try upgrading first since there has been no specific feedback on downgrading and my gut tells me it may not be the best idea SlimKat 4.4.4 looks interesting.
Hopefully you will not see a post from me in the future that starts with HELP !!!
I also have never seen a rom that flashes the bootloader or modem. Doing so would be a HUGE mistake!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
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I also have never seen a rom that flashes the bootloader or modem. Doing so would be a HUGE mistake!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
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@DocHoliday77 ....... Thanks Doc
I'm expecting a new replacement phone today and need to take this one back to all stock before I send it back.
Right now I'm running 5.1.1 rooted with TWRP. Unfortunately,I rooted before the method of not tripping Knox was released so,I guess I'm SOL there?
Any help appreciated as to what exact file I need to Odin?
Thanks.
Why are you replacing your phone with another?
Flashing stock firmware with odin should do it.
Delete SU before flash.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
Why are you replacing your phone with another?
Flashing stock firmware with odin should do it.
Delete SU before flash.
Pp.
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It has a couple flaws I can't get past.
Thanks for the reply.
After getting your replacement phone try running stock for a while, you can disable a lot of junk Samsung and t mobile apps and let the phone break in on stock for a while ( rooting and custom recovery is a mess anyway, at least until it gets figured out ) and you'll be surprised at how well this phone can operate and the long battery life you can get just running stock firmware.
I'm very impressed and quite happy with my s6e for now just the way it is, stock.
When this kernel thing gets sorted out or when the proper exploit is figured out, I will root.
Pp.
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After getting your replacement phone try running stock for a while, you can disable a lot of junk Samsung and t mobile apps and let the phone break in on stock for a while ( rooting and custom recovery is a mess anyway, at least until it gets figured out ) and you'll be surprised at how well this phone can operate and the long battery life you can get just running stock firmware.
I'm very impressed and quite happy with my s6e for now just the way it is, stock.
When this kernel thing gets sorted out or when the proper exploit is figured out, I will root.
Pp.
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The replacement came with 5.0,so far it's running great.
Think I'll stay here awhile.
lurk3r2013 said:
The replacement came with 5.0,so far it's running great.
Think I'll stay here awhile.
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I going to upgrade to 5.1.1 do ota, stay away from odin for now.
I did the ota update and this phone runs great for non rooted s6e, for now, or until they perfect root without issues.
Pp.
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I going to upgrade to 5.1.1 do ota, stay away from odin for now.
I did the ota update and this phone runs great for non rooted s6e, for now, or until they perfect root without issues.
Pp.
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I'm itching to pull the plug on the 5.1.1 OTA,do you recommend it?
Battery life is the best it has ever been on this new phone running 5.0.
lurk3r2013 said:
I'm itching to pull the plug on the 5.1.1 OTA,do you recommend it?
Battery life is the best it has ever been on this new phone running 5.0.
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Go for it.
And you too can be one of the many that are enjoying there GS6E to the max with all its features working properly including fingerprint scanner.
Pp. Stock and loving it.