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Does the De La Vega root method survive an OTA update. If I have a stock 4.3 T-Mobile Note 3, which I rooted with this method, will Root survive the OTA process? If so, can I just take the T-Mobile OTA, or should I use an alternate method?
I want to preserve my knox status for retail purposes, and don't want to use CF-Root to trip it. The thread is unclear, wondering if someone can confirm.
Thanks
I'm sorry but I personally have answered this 5 or 6 times. .. so here it is again. .. If you update you will lose root and there is no 0x0 knox method atm...It's only been a day so I'm sure someone is working on it. ...
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Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!
nygmam said:
Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!
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Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?
nickles96 said:
Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?
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I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.
nygmam said:
I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.
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I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
nickles96 said:
Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
BTW. Sorry your question did not get answered. The Q&A for the update was moved to the general section instead of this one, so i've been missing alot of Q&A actual questions.
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Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
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I'm sorry I mean no disrespect, but what are you talking about? Breaking third party access to SD card is a feature?
And BTW yours is 3rd explanation for this mess, I heard security concerns and some other nonsense before, but to speed the device is a new one and biggest BS so far. How is SD card any concern for Google, since none of their current devices have SD card to begin with?
And as already mentioned the fix requires root and root breaks the Knox warranty on Samsung phones, so it's not an option for many.
If the speed was a reason for this so called "feature", how come all apps that come with firmware have access to SD card already, negating so called "feature" out of the box? Only third party apps that user may or may not install later are broken.
And how come the fix is not an option in the menu, available to all users, but requires root?
Sorry, but Google sabotaged SD card access on purpose to push people to their cloud services, that is the only logical explanation and this is not the first time they did that.
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You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home
nygmam said:
Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home
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Yeah but that only works with 4.3...if you already updated then you are sol...
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Hi guys,
I'm new here and was hoping one of you maybe able to help? I rooted my phone last night at work and all went fine. I thought as I was on a role I would do the camera mod too but that's when it all went wrong!
I was rebooting my phone over and over with no issue at all trying to trouble shoot. The phone was working great well apart from the camera lol But when i rebooted it it now just sticks at the LG splash screen with the top led flashing green/blue!
Now I can hold down the button config to get into recovery and it just offers a factory reset so I selected this and it just boots back into this state again!
I have had the battery out for a while and even left it just sitting but it seems knackered for some reason..PLEASE HELP. PLEASE.
Now I have only had the phone for 3 days so what are the odds of getting it replaced and stating it's faulty?
Plug it into your PC and use LG PC SUITE. Restore to factory state
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radicalisto said:
Plug it into your PC and use LG PC SUITE. Restore to factory state
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Hi, As it is stuck on the boot logo the pc will not see the phone. I tried connecting it to the lg pc suite a few times when it was running but it would not find the phone.
There's a guide in the general section to restore stock firmware. Give it a whirl
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radicalisto said:
There's a guide in the general section to restore stock firmware. Give it a whirl
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Hi, Yeah i have seen that but most of it goes over my head about the F400 s/k/l models etc i have the uk version and cannot find a straight forward guide. But that's because it is so new i guess.
I may just call the provider and say it's shot! Is there any way they can prove it's been played with when it is this bricked?
Should be a guide for the D855, same model as I have. - depends who the carrier is. O2 can be pissy as can Vodafone and EE. THREE are easy to deal with tho. Because it's in your 14 days, they'll probably replace no questions asked for now.
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Should be a guide for the D855, same model as I have. - depends who the carrier is. O2 can be pissy as can Vodafone and EE. THREE are easy to deal with tho. Because it's in your 14 days, they'll probably replace no questions asked for now.
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I'm on 02, there doesn't seem to be any UK TOT files what ever they are only europe/America etc bit to early yet. I really don't see why it has failed it was working perfect then just died.
Give O2 a bell and see what they say. Within the 14 days they'll replace it for you. Unless you get a root savvy salesman who tries to be snotty lol. But tbh you'll be OK for a replacement.
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radicalisto said:
Give O2 a bell and see what they say. Within the 14 days they'll replace it for you. Unless you get a root savvy salesman who tries to be snotty lol. But tbh you'll be OK for a replacement.
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Thanks for your input mate. i will see what they say but should be ok. think I'm leaving well alone on the next one lol
flibbertygibbet said:
Hi, Yeah i have seen that but most of it goes over my head about the F400 s/k/l models etc i have the uk version and cannot find a straight forward guide. But that's because it is so new i guess.
I may just call the provider and say it's shot! Is there any way they can prove it's been played with when it is this bricked?
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By chance did you take a look at these TOT files? If you are having an issue where your device is only booting to the LG screen and then nothing else, try this. Remove the battery, put battery back in. Plug in your device via USB to your Windows computer, then hold Volume + and the Power button to launch the Download Mode. Download the files TOT file, DLL file, LG Flash Tool, LG Driver and follow the instructions in the above link and this should lead you to restoring your device.
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By chance did you take a look at these TOT files? If you are having an issue where your device is only booting to the LG screen and then nothing else, try this. Remove the battery, put battery back in. Plug in your device via USB to your Windows computer, then hold Volume + and the Power button to launch the Download Mode. Download the files TOT file, DLL file, LG Flash Tool, LG Driver and follow the instructions in the above link and this should lead you to restoring your device.
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Hi yes, Shame but there are no UK ones for o2 yet.:crying:
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Hi yes, Shame but there are no UK ones for o2 yet.:crying:
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I wasn't referring to restoring your device to the carriers specific settings, I was referring to restoring your LG D855 which that is the device you own is that correct? If so, have another look at my suggestion.
KachowPow said:
By chance did you take a look at these TOT files? If you are having an issue where your device is only booting to the LG screen and then nothing else, try this. Remove the battery, put battery back in. Plug in your device via USB to your Windows computer, then hold Volume + and the Power button to launch the Download Mode. Download the files TOT file, DLL file, LG Flash Tool, LG Driver and follow the instructions in the above link and this should lead you to restoring your device.
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Hi Guys sorry for the late reply,
I have my phone up and running now by flashing the EUR 16GB TOT. And it's working like a charm. Now in the software it states V10a-EUR. My question is. Is this right for the UK and will it void the warranty?
I have read on here that some with the EUR software have trouble with 02/tesco 4g but I can say mine has been running great with 4G.
Thanks again for all the help.
flibbertygibbet said:
Hi Guys sorry for the late reply,
I have my phone up and running now by flashing the EUR 16GB TOT. And it's working like a charm. Now in the software it states V10a-EUR. My question is. Is this right for the UK and will it void the warranty?
I have read on here that some with the EUR software have trouble with 02/tesco 4g but I can say mine has been running great with 4G.
Thanks again for all the help.
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Only just seen this thread and glad to see that you have saved your device. Just for the record, you could have restored your device if you used the lg pc suite with your device plugged in in download mode.
flibbertygibbet said:
Hi Guys sorry for the late reply,
I have my phone up and running now by flashing the EUR 16GB TOT. And it's working like a charm. Now in the software it states V10a-EUR. My question is. Is this right for the UK and will it void the warranty?
I have read on here that some with the EUR software have trouble with 02/tesco 4g but I can say mine has been running great with 4G.
Thanks again for all the help.
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Here is a KDZ link to the O2 firmware
[LG-D855] LG D855 Phone Firmware D85510A_00 O2(United_Kingdom)16G Edition
http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW919006432109876543213/D85510a_00.kdz
flibbertygibbet said:
I'm on 02, there doesn't seem to be any UK TOT files what ever they are only europe/America etc bit to early yet. I really don't see why it has failed it was working perfect then just died.
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EDIT: seems the problem is solved haha
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bobsie41 said:
Only just seen this thread and glad to see that you have saved your device. Just for the record, you could have restored your device if you used the lg pc suite with your device plugged in in download mode.
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Hi, I wrote earlier that it was stuck on the LG splash screen and bricked. The PC would not see it..So I was stuck with options.
scarecrow2012 said:
Here is a KDZ link to the O2 firmware
[LG-D855] LG D855 Phone Firmware D85510A_00 O2(United_Kingdom)16G Edition
http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW919006432109876543213/D85510a_00.kdz
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Thanks, Is there a cirtain program I need to open that? As I cannot and it just states to search the web to find a program to open it?
Is it possible now just to try to connect it to the lg pc suite and restore back to the uk version?
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Thanks, Is there a cirtain program I need to open that? As I cannot and it just states to search the web to find a program to open it?
Is it possible now just to try to connect it to the lg pc suite and restore back to the uk version?
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Yes, it should do that if your device was originally a UK one.
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Yes, it should do that if your device was originally a UK one.
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Hi, Ok great sounds like a plan. Was having major issues trying to get it to link to the pc suite so trying on another pc. hope this works this time.
Hello, I went into retard mode and tried to flash TWRP using CloudyFa's app that is designed for the G2 (experimentation is dangerous ). Basicly his app wrote over the Bootloader, Baseband and recovery partition. So is there any way to manually flash the LG G3 partitions back onto the device? It wont charge (visibly), wont boot, wont go into download mode and wont go into recovery. It's pretty dead. Anyone who can, please help! Thanks!
EDIT: Issue sorted. New G3 inbound!
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Hello, I went into retard mode and tried to flash TWRP using CloudyFa's app that is designed for the G2 (experimentation is dangerous ). Basicly his app wrote over the Bootloader, Baseband and recovery partition. So is there any way to manually flash the LG G3 partitions back onto the device? It wont charge (visibly), wont boot, wont go into download mode and wont go into recovery. It's pretty dead. Anyone who can, please help! Thanks!
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have you tried using the LG PC Suite app(i think that's the name)
Enddo said:
have you tried using the LG PC Suite app(i think that's the name)
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Yup, I've tried everything. KDZ flash, TOT flash and the PC Suite.
leomd333 said:
Yup, I've tried everything. KDZ flash, TOT flash and the PC Suite.
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Is your phone detected by your computer, if not try installing g2 drivers as well!
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Is your phone detected by your computer, if not try installing g2 drivers as well!
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Yes it is detected as "LGE AndroidNet USB Serial Port" and ill give that a try thanks!
No luck . Spent all day today and most of yesterday trying to fix it. I'll try and swap it for a new one from my carrier and play dumb.
ROOT? WHAT IS THIS ROOT YOU SPEAK OF!?
leomd333 said:
No luck . Spent all day today and most of yesterday trying to fix it. I'll try and swap it for a new one from my carrier and play dumb.
ROOT? WHAT IS THIS ROOT YOU SPEAK OF!?
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Good luck .. !! :laugh:
Fauert said:
Good luck .. !! :laugh:
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Thanks haha! I deserve it for being an idiot but they should replace it as it's a brand new device
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Thanks haha! I deserve it for being an idiot but they should replace it as it's a brand new device
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No deserved at all! You should be patted on the back for trying something that could of made a big break through for nodding the G3. Hope you get it sorted:good:
ant78 said:
No deserved at all! You should be patted on the back for trying something that could of made a big break through for nodding the G3. Hope you get it sorted:good:
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Thank you sir! :angel: I just thought to myself before I did it "Oh, what if the file system and partition layouts are similar on the G2 to the G3, may aswell flash some G2 stuff and see what happens!" xD Still, things like that need lokified and ported to run on the G3. When and IF I get a new G3 (A few days hopefully) Ill have a look at actual development as i'd love to get a working build of CWM ported over. But that is probably unlikely as I dont have a huge knowledge in Android. I've ported plenty of roms, eg: Chasmodo's Asylum from the N7000 to run on the Nexus 5 (It worked ) But I've no experience in tinkering with recoveries!
@Fauert @ant78 They are sending out a new G3, it will be here on Wednesday! Once again fantastic customer service from Three! :victory:
i recently bought a brand new Note-ll, as i purchased it from UAE and now in Pakistan so when i start using it i noticed that it was not functioning well, when i tried to make a call a message box appeared saying " No mobile network available or something like that" while there were full signals. i sent it to a nearby repair center but helpless. they said it can not be repaired. i had to use it like an iPod or something. There is another problem which makes me think like there is no hardware issue cause its Model is N7100 and the android done on it is of SGH-1317 (NOTE-ll AT&T) variant [version 4.1.2]. There is also some great issue with the signals, which are not stable at all. NEVER ROOTED NOR UPDATED. Can you guys please help me out :crying:
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Ajaz Wali Khan said:
i recently bought a brand new Note-ll, as i purchased it from UAE and now in Pakistan so when i start using it i noticed that it was not functioning well, when i tried to make a call a message box appeared saying " No mobile network available or something like that" while there were full signals. i sent it to a nearby repair center but helpless. they said it can not be repaired. i had to use it like an iPod or something. There is another problem which makes me think like there is no hardware issue cause its Model is N7100 and the android done on it is of SGH-1317 (NOTE-ll AT&T) variant [version 4.1.2]. There is also some great issue with the signals, which are not stable at all. NEVER ROOTED NOR UPDATED. Can you guys please help me out :crying:
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try to flash official rom available for ur country with odin.
thanks bro
wanipravin19 said:
try to flash official rom available for ur country with odin.
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but i don't know how to do that, completely unaware of these modifications :/
i got to do this. okay now where do i get this "flash official ROM available for my country" ?
second problem is that i cant even connect my device to p.c via kies even all the drivers are installed correctly. help me out with this thing as well.
Ajaz Wali Khan said:
but i don't know how to do that, completely unaware of these modifications :/
i got to do this. okay now where do i get this "flash official ROM available for my country" ?
second problem is that i cant even connect my device to p.c via kies even all the drivers are installed correctly. help me out with this thing as well.
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try to follow the steps in the Samsung ODIN section of this link from XDA University "xda-university.com/as-a-user/android-flashing-guide" for flashing an official ROM.
It look like it for my T800
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-T800/
I am in no hurry to update, so i am not going to check for updates, or is it only available though kies.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
It look like it for my T800
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-T800/
I am in no hurry to update, so i am not going to check for updates, or is it only available though kies.
John.
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Hi, I am updating now via Smart Switch (the new Kies)
Good Luck you are my Hero, or should i say guinea pig.
John.
Good luck? Guinea Pig? Really?
It's official firmware, same rom version was already released in other countries, it's quite stable don't worry.
pacc said:
Good luck? Guinea Pig? Really?
It's official firmware, same rom version was already released in other countries, it's quite stable don't worry.
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I didn't take offence it's ok, anyway tablet has just booted up whole process took 40mins.
I did not mean any offense , can you let us know in a few days what you think of lollipop.
John.
maxal said:
I didn't take offence it's ok, anyway tablet has just booted up whole process took 40mins.
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I did not mean any offense , can you let us know in a few days what you think of lollipop.
John.
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I can tell you now because I have been flashing different country's lollipop firmware since the first one one was reliesed and it is nice and smooth, batterey life not as good but all and all I am very happy with it.
Is writing/deleting files from the microsd using third-party apps working now?
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Is writing/deleting files from the microsd using third-party apps working now?
John.
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Not sure what you are wanting to do but I use an app called ES File Explorer and I can transfer anything to my microsd card, I also back up all my roms to my microsd card via TWRP
Does this help or would you like me to test something for you.
I use to use this wifi file transfer app all the time on my phones and other tablets to transfer files to the microsd, but it did not work with my Tab S because of v4.4.2 blocks access to the microsd, it means i have to plug the usb cable in to transfer every file regardless of size, when it took seconds using wifi.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smarterdroid.wififiletransfer&hl=en
Thanks
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I use to use this wifi file transfer app all the time on my phones and other tablets to transfer files to the microsd, but it did not work with my Tab S because of v4.4.2 blocks access to the microsd, it means i have to plug the usb cable in to transfer every file regardless of size, when it took seconds using wifi.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smarterdroid.wififiletransfer&hl=en
Thanks
John.
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Just had a go but I couldn't get it work but as I have never used a wifi transfer app to transfer files I am not sure if I was doing it right.
You do know that if you don't like 5.0.2. firmware you can always flash 4.4.2 firmware via Odin.
I dont really want to flash while i am still in warranty, I wish there was an easy way to root my T800, I tried kingroot the apk and windows version but it did not work.
Thanks anyway.
John.
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I dont really want to flash while i am still in warranty, I wish there was an easy way to root my T800, I tried kingroot the apk and windows version but it did not work.
Thanks anyway.
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Root and custom recovery will void your warranty but using Odin will not.
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After a manual "Check for Updates" it's now downloading over Wi-Fi - only 3 months after the France ROM released.
Can you let us know what you think of lollipop once you have had the chance to test it.
John.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
I dont really want to flash while i am still in warranty, I wish there was an easy way to root my T800, I tried kingroot the apk and windows version but it did not work.
Thanks anyway.
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Root and custom recovery will void your warranty but using Odin will not.
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I've had the France 5.0.2 update on my tablet for a while now. Does anyone have a fast link to download this from so I can flash it to my UK tab?
This might be it.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/49140/T800XXU1BOCC_T800BTU1BOC1_BTU/
John.
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I've had the France 5.0.2 update on my tablet for a while now. Does anyone have a fast link to download this from so I can flash it to my UK tab?
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chipxtreme said:
I've had the France 5.0.2 update on my tablet for a while now. Does anyone have a fast link to download this from so I can flash it to my UK tab?
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Download Smart Switch to a computer and use the program to update, took me 40 mins from start to finish.
I did it that way but unfortunately it wiped my device. I was hoping to get around that but at least i'm back to UK firmware
chipxtreme said:
I did it that way but unfortunately it wiped my device. I was hoping to get around that but at least i'm back to UK firmware
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Sorry to hear it wiped your tablet, I always backup every thing up to my Laptop just incase.