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Has anybody returned a rooted/unlocked phone?

Due to the issues in my other post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24049918#post24049918)
I'm likely going to have to return my phone. And because I can't get any computer to recognize the phone, I can't de-root/re-lock the phone.
I'm wondering if anyone's heard what happens when a rooted/unlocked phone is returned. I know it voids warranty - I'm just wondering if anybody's ever tried and gotten away with it.

Try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro
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Wow mobile Odin....now I think I have seen everything in terms of apps. I never thought I would see an app for odin.

Great idea - thanks!
I must admit, I don't really understand how to use ODIN - I've read their website and the XDAforums page on it, and I'm still a bit confused.
How do I find the firmware files to flash on to the phone? They don't seem to be included. And once I find them, how do I get them on to the SD card?
If I'm not mistaken, can you even remove the SD card from the phone?

ianian28 said:
If I'm not mistaken, can you even remove the SD card from the phone?
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I wouldn't have a clue for your former question but for this, there isn't a physical SD card in the Galaxy Nexus, just a virtual SD card that is really just a partition.

ianian28 said:
Great idea - thanks!
I must admit, I don't really understand how to use ODIN - I've read their website and the XDAforums page on it, and I'm still a bit confused.
How do I find the firmware files to flash on to the phone? They don't seem to be included. And once I find them, how do I get them on to the SD card?
If I'm not mistaken, can you even remove the SD card from the phone?
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Nope - no physical SD card in our Gnex
You could use Airdroid for example to get the files on your "sd card"
edit: never used Odin - but I THINK these are the images you're after: http://code.google.com/intl/nl-NL/android/nexus/images.html

You could try chain fires other app supersu which can perminatly unroot your phone. Dont think you can relock bootloader without a PC though https://play.google.com/store/search?q=supersu&c=apps
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No matter how much flashing you do from the device, you must have a computer to actually re-lock it once it's stock. So without a computer, you won't be able to fully lock it again sadly.

ianian28 said:
Due to the issues in my other post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24049918#post24049918)
I'm likely going to have to return my phone. And because I can't get any computer to recognize the phone, I can't de-root/re-lock the phone.
I'm wondering if anyone's heard what happens when a rooted/unlocked phone is returned. I know it voids warranty - I'm just wondering if anybody's ever tried and gotten away with it.
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I think its simply
"You're not doing it right"
You've had it connect when it wasn't rooted so its probably a driver issue on your computer.

use dropbox or a bluetooth connection to your computer to get the files onto the phone.

Evostance said:
I think its simply
"You're not doing it right"
You've had it connect when it wasn't rooted so its probably a driver issue on your computer.
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Read this and cry: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23789#makechanges

[Q] MobileTV denied on rooted S3 - Problem

HI,
i have rootet my T-MobileGalaxy S3 and leave the original FIrmwarfrom T-Mob on it. No custom Rom.
Now i wanted to show TV with my MobileTV App. But there comes a disclaimer, that i don't use original firmware
from T-mobile so i can't watch. Than the app closed.
A talk to T-Mobile custom care have no solution, cause they can't stop the romcheck in the app.
Anyone any idea? And please, don't the unroot it. I have rooted it cause i need AF-Firewall. Unrooting is no solution.
Please help :crying:
Thanks

How did you root? If your status shows "modified" things like this will not work. Only one way I know for sure to gain root without causing the status to change. Even then, system modifications can also trigger it. Has to do with DRM policies where any drm content will not work with rooted devices.
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DocHoliday77 said:
How did you root? If your status shows "modified" things like this will not work. Only one way I know for sure to gain root without causing the status to change. Even then, system modifications can also trigger it. Has to do with DRM policies where any drm content will not work with rooted devices.
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Hi, i rooted it with "oneclick 7.0", from here.
everything works. only MobileTV denied.
But I'm not the only one with this prob.
forum.telekom.de/foren/read/service/mobile-nutzung/mobiletv/root-romchek-in-mobiltv-zwingend-noetig,875,11148223,11148223.html

Only way to root w/o causing the device status to change is the root66 method. (Sorry I didn't put that in before, too tired i guess!)
Even then, if you apply any mods it'll change to modified. (I just tested a root method that failed, so I'm 100% stock, and just the attempt seems to have changed it)
Ill reflash root66 in a bit to verify I'm not remembering wrong. Will let you know.
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Oh, OK, thats not fine. I searched here for a while, and find the one-click-root .
And now, i don't think i can reset it.
But the most fail is, that the MobileTV app is checking the ROM.
Why, its not necessary. :silly:
....
LG

Hey Patric
here is my patched Mobile TV app. This one works with rooted/custom ROMs. Plus landscape mode in both directions.
Hmm but i can not post links... I will send you a private message.
BootyPatric said:
Oh, OK, thats not fine. I searched here for a while, and find the one-click-root .
And now, i don't think i can reset it.
But the most fail is, that the MobileTV app is checking the ROM.
Why, its not necessary. :silly:
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LG
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Hi EqPO,
having the same issues with my HTC One and ARHD 30
Any chance that I could have it too?
Thx :good:
EqPO said:
Hey Patric
here is my patched Mobile TV app. This one works with rooted/custom ROMs. Plus landscape mode in both directions.
Hmm but i can not post links... I will send you a private message.
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BootyPatric said:
Oh, OK, thats not fine. I searched here for a while, and find the one-click-root .
And now, i don't think i can reset it.
But the most fail is, that the MobileTV app is checking the ROM.
Why, its not necessary. :silly:
....
LG
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Badthe23 said:
Hi EqPO,
having the same issues with my HTC One and ARHD 30
Any chance that I could have it too?
Thx :good:
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Guys, please Reset your Flash Counter and all will be well. You will be able to use the original App. You should get the App Called "Triangle Away". Please do read the OP completely, of the thread before using the app.

I've just deinstalled MobileTV.
The only way.

Rooting sm-n900t. What is the safest way to root my device, this is my first time.

Usually I have someone root my devices but I was told there are easier ways to root The note 3. I have the T-Mobile version.
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Do you care if you trip Knox?
If not, then I would suggest using Chainfires root method. You can find it in the "Original Android Development" section.
If you do NOT want to trip Knox(warranty issues), then look into Root De La Vega.

I was going to go with Root De La Vega, then stumbled across Kingo Root.
http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
It's just a one-click app, no ADB knowledge needed. Although I wasn't worried about it, it didn't trip the Knox counter. I did that on my own later...

trek7000 said:
I was going to go with Root De La Vega, then stumbled across Kingo Root.
http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
It's just a one-click app, no ADB knowledge needed. Although I wasn't worried about it, it didn't trip the Knox counter. I did that on my own later...
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+1 to kingo, I rooted with De la Vega the first time but after that my spen wasn't taking screenshots, and the screenshot with palm action wasn't working either. I went back to stock via Odin and rooted again with kingo, and everything start to work the way is supposed to.
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trek7000 said:
I was going to go with Root De La Vega, then stumbled across Kingo Root.
http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
It's just a one-click app, no ADB knowledge needed. Although I wasn't worried about it, it didn't trip the Knox counter. I did that on my own later...
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I thought this method wasn't recommended due to sending your IMEI to some unknown server? Has this issue been addressed?
The above is the only reason I didn't recommend it.

idtheftvictim said:
I thought this method wasn't recommended due to sending your IMEI to some unknown server? Has this issue been addressed?
The above is the only reason I didn't recommend it.
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I had read a little about that before I did it. At the time, I was suffering the brutal stock boot loop issue and just needed a quick way of rooting it to load TWRP so I could troubleshoot it. It wasn't stable enough for me to get ADB up and running.
To be honest, I figured even if they did get the IMEI for whatever reason, I was probably going to warranty swap the phone because I didn't realize the boot loop was a known software problem.
So far, everything seems legit.

trek7000 said:
I had read a little about that before I did it. At the time, I was suffering the brutal stock boot loop issue and just needed a quick way of rooting it to load TWRP so I could troubleshoot it. It wasn't stable enough for me to get ADB up and running.
To be honest, I figured even if they did get the IMEI for whatever reason, I was probably going to warranty swap the phone because I didn't realize the boot loop was a known software problem.
So far, everything seems legit.
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I have pretty much chosen to pursue this route, however my phone (SM-900T) does NOT have a "Dev" section in settings, best I can manage is "Unknown Sources"...it is checked but to no avail. Please advise.
Peace

augustorm said:
I have pretty much chosen to pursue this route, however my phone (SM-900T) does NOT have a "Dev" section in settings, best I can manage is "Unknown Sources"...it is checked but to no avail. Please advise.
Peace
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They hid the developer options by default in Jelly Bean. You have to go to Settings/About Phone and tap Build Number until you get a prompt to enable dev options.
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Damn...duh...forgot about that....ty
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Root Failed with Kingo.....First failure at rooting. Hmmm

2nd time was a charm.

So I removed the root expecting to do an ota and after the ota re-root. However the server response is "device has been altered" or something similar and wont allow me to update. So I go back to Kingo to re-root and nothing. it connects but i dont even get the superuser prompt to grant access. I'm wondering if I need to do a factory reset then try again. Anyone have any ideas? All I have ever done is root. I'm at a loss.

So I removed the root expecting to do an ota and after the ota re-root. However the server response is "device has been altered" or something similar and wont allow me to update. So I go back to Kingo to re-root and nothing. it connects but i dont even get the superuser prompt to grant access. I'm wondering if I need to do a factory reset then try again. Anyone have any ideas? All I have ever done is root. I'm at a loss.
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You might not get OTA update because of rooting your phone. Try flash the update using odin.
SM-N900T: Powered by X-Note V13/CivZ-SnapKat 2.1

Yeah I was going to do that. But now I cant get re-rooted with the same method. But I think I may have found another method using odin.
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augustorm said:
Yeah I was going to do that. But now I cant get re-rooted with the same method. But I think I may have found another method using odin.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
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Supposedly using mobile Odin correctly allows 4.2.2 root without tripping Knox. If you don't care about KNOX use CF-Autoroot. I stopped caring and installed Beastmode Kernel and TWRP.

Thanks..yeah the orig method I used reported not tripping knox but apparently did...now I can no longer receive ota's bfd. I dont care. I'll use odin to flash kk and root from there. If not, I have JUMP and I'll just replace it.
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Towelroot. Is it working on the G3?

Did someone try to root the G3 with Towelroot?
http://towelroot.com/

Yes, it will. Even on the S5 without tripping KNOX. Just try it yourself, no risk involved. I haven`t tried it myself but i`am absolutely sure it will get you root.

Good to know.
I should get my G3 next week so I will definitely use it.
Thanks.

liamR said:
Did someone try to root the G3 with Towelroot?
http://towelroot.com/
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Just confirmed with my international D855 unit.
Works flawlessly. Tested with Root checker and Titanium backup.
Still dazed as to how this works... possibly the fastest root method ever! :good:

MasK said:
Just confirmed with my international D855 unit.
Works flawlessly. Tested with Root checker and Titanium backup.
Still dazed as to how this works... possibly the fastest root method ever! :good:
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Appearently its a vulnurability in all android kernels that are build before june 3rd that lets the exploit do its work and install root during the boot sequence without beeing detected.

Yes. It's amazing. This guy have a great talent. He just left the iOS system and went for Android (He developed the iOS Jailbreak). Now Chainfire and other good developers here have competition

Working good

To unroot do u just need to do a reset? This works on uk model g3 with 2gb ram?
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vimto25 said:
To unroot do u just need to do a reset? This works on uk model g3 with 2gb ram?
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Yes, it works with all android devices atm and a data factory reset or flashing a factory image will unroot.

warranty still void tho I guess? I'm wanting to root really badly, but holding off as long as I can in case of problems as phone is litteraly hours old

557953 said:
warranty still void tho I guess? I'm wanting to root really badly, but holding off as long as I can in case of problems as phone is litteraly hours old
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I've never worried about the 'warranty voided' stories. If software could physically damage a device then the device is poorly made. I had three different rooted Samsung that failed due to the 'sudden death syndrome'. They were all fixed under warranty. Never heard of anyone having problems with warranty on a rooted device - only urban myths!
Sent from my SM-9500N using Tapatalk Pro.
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557953 said:
warranty still void tho I guess? I'm wanting to root really badly, but holding off as long as I can in case of problems as phone is litteraly hours old
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Rooting has always voided warranty. .. There were just ways to return it to stock like it was never rooted.
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Epix4G said:
Rooting has always voided warranty. .. There were just ways to return it to stock like it was never rooted.
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Not with my rooted phones - any that died or had faults have always been fixed under warranty - going right back to the 'Hero'. If I buy a brand name Windows PC, wipe the hard disk and install Linux, the manufacturer still has to honour their hardware warranty under EU law. Same with mobiles/phones/tablets.
Maybe North American consumer protection laws are not as good as those here in Europe.
For instance, in the EU we can return anything we buy via mail order for a full refund within 14 days for any reason under the 'distance selling' regulations. Goods bought in shops or via mail order also have to be of 'merchantable quality'. As it currently stands, EU customers could obtain a full refund for the LG G3 as it does not work reliably with the Google Chromecast. This is probably why Samsung fixed a similar problem with a software patch when some of their devices had the same problem.
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Sucessfully rooted my D855 using Towelroot as well.Tested with root checker and adblock to verify it's working.
One problem I had was when I installed SuperSU,it says need to have binary updated.However,when I clicked "Normal"..it says installation failed?

JxXxn said:
Sucessfully rooted my D855 using Towelroot as well.Tested with root checker and adblock to verify it's working.
One problem I had was when I installed SuperSU,it says need to have binary updated.However,when I clicked "Normal"..it says installation failed?
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Yup.. likewise with SuperSU.
I uninstalled it and never bothered with it

To unroot, can somebody install SuperSu and try to uninstal root pls?
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qwerty1q said:
To unroot, can somebody install SuperSu and try to uninstal root pls?
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Doing so removes your root access (as you expect) but your device will still refuse to install OTA's
Sent from my LG G3

JxXxn said:
Sucessfully rooted my D855 using Towelroot as well.Tested with root checker and adblock to verify it's working.
One problem I had was when I installed SuperSU,it says need to have binary updated.However,when I clicked "Normal"..it says installation failed?
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MasK said:
Yup.. likewise with SuperSU.
I uninstalled it and never bothered with it
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Alright.. I decided to try it again and now SuperSU works flawlessly.
I think you need to reboot and run it again. This time for me, it didn't ask me for a binary update. Just started working. Try it.

Lennyuk said:
Doing so removes your root access (as you expect) but your device will still refuse to install OTA's
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OK so I can unroot with SuperSu, the only disadvantage is no OTA, and to unroot with OTA I'd need to perform factory reset, right? How to do it?
After Factory reset,
Do LG backup app restore the whole rom with settings and apps, please?
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MasK said:
Alright.. I decided to try it again and now SuperSU works flawlessly.
I think you need to reboot and run it again. This time for me, it didn't ask me for a binary update. Just started working. Try it.
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Yes..it works now!And Hello from yr fellow Singaporean!!

kingroot

I saw a video of someone using kingroot on their verizon galaxy note 4 and they were rooted. That person was running kitkat when i tried it on my note 4 running lollipop nothing happened. Should i downgrade or wss the video fake. Is it possible to downgrade using a mac.

madchainsawer said:
I saw a video of someone using kingroot on their verizon galaxy note 4 and they were rooted. That person was running kitkat when i tried it on my note 4 running lollipop nothing happened. Should i downgrade or wss the video fake. Is it possible to downgrade using a mac.
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Search is your Friend ....
As far as i Know it doesnt work on lollipop & only works for KitKat. it doesnt work for mine on Lollipop. Also its not a Perm Root, Root is lost upon reboot
Search the Form there is a bunch more info on it

Yup, only works on kitkat and it's temporary only.
The devs are working on a permanent solution. I personally have held off with trying king root because I don't trust it.

I am downgrading and i am going to attempt kingroot because i wanna get rid of bloatware and i never turn my phone off unless i really need to.
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I believe there is a debloater that's been out for lollipop that doesn't need root.
I also think I've read that even if you don't reboot, over time or after messing with certain parts of the system, you'll lose root.

Debloater doesn't remove bloatware, only disables it.
Kingroot has been reported to cause random reboots, which is why I haven't tried it in spite of the fact that I rarely if ever reboot my phone either.
Also, something I've come to wonder... What good would deleting bloatware be if those no custom ROM with reworked partitions? We wouldn't be gaining any space from the ROM partition (where system apps are stored) But we can already delete all the updates for system apps (since they go in internal storage instead of overwriting the original app in ROM storage). At least this is the way I've come to understand it from using Titanium Backup on my old devices.

I didn't think king root was actually rooting your main system rom? Thought that was why you had to use multisystem and from that point you would install the rooted kitkat rom, etc..
But if kingroot does root the factory system, then you could simply root with kingroot remove the bloatware then it wouldn't matter if you lost root after a reboot. Correct?

I am not sure but i am trying to downgrade my note 4 right now and i hope it doesnt brick
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I looked that up on xda and kit kat doesnt need root lollipop does
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I was wondering if I went through this temp root path and modified my hosts file as well as using "SDFix: KitKat Writable SD" to give me write access to sd. Would they stay that way modified host file and write access if I hard rebooted and removed king root or SU after doing those things originally with root permissions?
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No they won't

drewcam888 said:
No they won't
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Is this reply to my post regarding hosts file and sd write?
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amsgh said:
Is this reply to my post regarding hosts file and sd write?
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Yes it is a response to you. Write protection takes over on a reboot

drewcam888 said:
Yes it is a response to you. Write protection takes over on a reboot
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Ok thanks. Does that also mean that the hosts file reverts?
sent from my SM-P600 RLS5.0

Everything reverts back to original

madchainsawer said:
I am not sure but i am trying to downgrade my note 4 right now and i hope it doesnt brick
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Were you able to downgrade? Root and remove bloatware?
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ubigred said:
Were you able to downgrade? Root and remove bloatware?
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You can downgrade to NJ5 4.4 rom and get temporary root with King root, if you're on OAF. However, if you took the OTA upgrade to OF1 or above, you cannot downgrade. You stuck with LL with no way to root.

buhohitr said:
You can downgrade to NJ5 4.4 rom and get temporary root with King root, if you're on OAF. However, if you took the OTA upgrade to OF1 or above, you cannot downgrade. You stuck with LL with no way to root.
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Damn I'm on OG5. I really can't downgrade?
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I dont think kingroot is root at all.
I dont understand the term "temporary root"
Even if its temporary, changes it makes to the system should be permanent yet they go back to normal.
I tried using system app uninstaller and it said "succeeded "
I tried to use AdAway and it said "successful"
I even opened up the system/hosts file to confirm the change was made, yet after reboot everything went back to stock.
Not only that, but kingroot comes with FULL SCREEN ads that pop when you exit application that requested root access, and they are annoying playing videos and eat up your data.
I think kingroot creates virtual root environment inside RAM. Changes made inside RAM do not apply to device storage. Nothing is changed to say the very least but allot of garbage and spyware is added.
Even after uninstalling the app, its service is left behind and you gotta remove thru "Settings/applications/All"
Smart Chinese should have put their knowledge into cracking the locked bootloader instead of creating fake trash like this.

droidx2.3.3 said:
Yup, only works on kitkat and it's temporary only.
The devs are working on a permanent solution. I personally have held off with trying king root because I don't trust it.
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I was playing with my buddy's note4 (sm-n910v) this evening and I used Kingroot's Purify app. After running it, I went through every option and it finally gave me a link to the Kingroot.net download (XDA's wouldn't parse for me).
I installed Kingroot and ran it... fail.
Rebooted
Ran Purify again, followed by Kingroot.... Root Successful!
Ran RootChecker..... haha... tripped the knox.... auto reboot. (Note to self... don't run RootChecker)
Ran Kingroot.... much faster root success this time!
Verified root by turning on the root explorer in ES File Explorer's options.... Root was asked for and granted.
Instead of removing the bloatware using ES File, I opted to give the Purify app another try in hope of getting root to stick.
That's when I came Purify's 'Debloater' app.... It started ok, so, I handed my buddy his phone and told him."Better get some while the getting is good!".... He had about 30 apps checked when I stopped him and suggested he make a back up before he does anymore!
Apps uninstalled successfully and my buddy rebooted (ok...I guess we're done).
After reboot.. root was gone but, so were the 30+ apps!
Long story short.... Getting root is possible... You just have to get root when you need it and be decisive in your actions.... Remember anything that trips the knox and try to avoid it!... Work Purify and Kingroot back and forth like a couple of wedges... I think I was close to getting root to stick permanently but, my buddy had to go home and he took all the toys with him
I guess the next step is getting rid of, disabling or re-configuring the knox.... So, please read up on the knox system change detect-o-matic before trying to uninstall it... Do it right and you'll be a champ!
But... if you automate it for everyone with a small program and you'll reach 'Hero' status for sure!
Oh yeah.... That Note4 was running Lollipop 5.1.0 (or 5.0.1?... I didn't pay much attention)
Hope that helps
<8^)
P.S. Sorry if I posted incorrectly ... I'll get it right one of these days!