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[Q] Is Kingo root really dangerous

Hello,
I write from Germany and I've read this HERE. Is this true? Is Kingo root really dangerous? Is there any alternative root for LG G Pad?

Pittermann said:
Hello,
I write from Germany and I've read this HERE. Is this true? Is Kingo root really dangerous? Is there any alternative root for LG G Pad?
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Rooted my lg pad 8.3 safely so I would not worry.

Mine is rooted successfully with Kingo too.
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Rooting isn't the problem. This works fine. I know. But what is with grabbing/spy and other sensitive data? That's the question. I've read that personal data be spied by a china server.
Please read my link.
Two quotes from my link:
I can confirm that something unknown/suspicious is being uploaded to your PC on running the android root.exe file. The IP address (hex) corresponds to a website/location in ZH (China) (whois). My antivirus and firewall blocked it out, and the programme halted on my PC, and I couldn't root my mom's New Samsung galaxy trend duos. I uninstalled the app & thank goodness I was running the file sandboxed.....caveat emptor everyone......
Dead Cookies leave no trails...
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Bumping this thread to clear some things up:
The tool isn't allowed on the forums right now, we're still working out some issues with them. Biggest issue being sending sensitive data unencrypted to their servers in China and grabbing the IMEI with no apparent reason. When that is solved the whole issue will be reassessed.
Thread closed. (for now)
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I think this tool Kingo Root is very risky.

Pittermann said:
Rooting isn't the problem. This works fine. I know. But what is with grabbing/spy and other sensitive data? That's the question. I've read that personal data be spied by a china server.
Please read my link.
Two quotes from my link:
I think this tool Kingo Root is very risky.
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I would hope it is clean... You can always try the G2 root method to see if it works, they are very similar.
btw questions go in the Q&A section not the general... that is why it exists

joshuadjohnson22 said:
I would hope it is clean... You can always try the G2 root method to see if it works, they are very similar.
btw questions go in the Q&A section not the general... that is why it exists
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Hello,
"hope" is too uncertain for me. And similar is not the same. I think that doesn't work fine. Or do you 100% know that it works?
Sorry, I'm here for the first time and I doesn't know that with Q&A. But now I know it.
And sorry for my english. Ist not the best. I know :fingers-crossed:

Pittermann said:
Hello,
"hope" is too uncertain for me. And similar is not the same. I think that doesn't work fine. Or do you 100% know that it works?
Sorry, I'm here for the first time and I doesn't know that with Q&A. But now I know it.
And sorry for my english. Ist not the best. I know :fingers-crossed:
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It does work, if you look here you will see that a lot of people had success with it.

Although the exe seems clear, the problem is that it requires permission from my firewall to connect to internet and download additional drivers(?). This is definitely suspicious as they could had been included in the exe. And as a user said it tries to connect to some ip that is chinese. I wanted to root my lg g pad using kingo but i had seen the thread you mention and as xda doesnt support this app i ll wait till they find a way to unlock bootloader and install a custom recovery.

I will wait too. That's for me also too suspicious.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
It does work, if you look here you will see that a lot of people had success with it.
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Again, I know that kingo works. but I think this tool contains a trojan.
And with my question, I did not mean kingo, but I meant the root method of G2. Do you 100% know that it works also with LG G Pad?

Pittermann said:
I will wait too. That's for me also too suspicious.
Again, I know that kingo works. but I think this tool contains a trojan.
And with my question, I did not mean kingo, but I meant the root method of G2. Do you 100% know that it works also with LG G Pad?
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Nope , no one has tested it and i dont have my g pad yet. The G2 and G Pad are very similar as far as OS
But if you are worried about kingo even though no one has had any issues with their g pad then dont root. I will take my chances when i get mine if there are not alternative methoda.

Worked great on mine, rooted it about an hr after I got home with it.
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donharden2002 said:
Worked great on mine, rooted it about an hr after I got home with it.
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I rooted mine too w/ Kingo... it was so fast, didn't have time to be nervous,,,,lol as for risky, whattheheckisntriskythesedays?!
Ms D

The question isn't if this tool works (it works as it is verified by so many members), it's if this tool is dangerous and none of you could answer to that.
gangsterjoop said:
The tool isn't allowed on the forums right now, we're still working out some issues with them. Biggest issue being sending sensitive data unencrypted to their servers in China and grabbing the IMEI with no apparent reason. When that is solved the whole issue will be reassessed.
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kennyglass123 said:
As far as can be seen the information is grabbed and sent during the rooting process which is why it will not work without an active internet connection. Kingo is working on a revision to remove the data collection.
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posted by poyensa, xda recognised developer:
poyensa said:
Until this method is verified to be working safely and without malware, I would advise everyone not to use this method.
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Apparently, all of you who have rooted your g pad with kingo app had your private data and imei sent to an unknown chinese ip.

katsika said:
The question isn't if this tool works (it works as it is verified by so many members), it's if this tool is dangerous and none of you could answer to that.
posted by poyensa, xda recognised developer:
Apparently, all of you who have rooted your g pad with kingo app had your private data and imei sent to an unknown chinese ip.
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Correctly. This is fact. You're one of the few who understood what I mean with my post. But everyone needs to know in what danger he sets himself.
But I wish you continued fun with the stolen imei and personal data theft :silly:

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Pittermann said:
Correctly. This is fact. You're one of the few who understood what I mean with my post. But everyone needs to know in what danger he sets himself.
But I wish you continued fun with the stolen imei and personal data theft :silly:
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I see...so the root works but your data is being sent to a Chinese Data mining operation then being sent back to the NSA? ( lol joke sorry i had to say it).
Well it's a good thing i research stuff before i jump in.

katsika said:
The question isn't if this tool works (it works as it is verified by so many members), it's if this tool is dangerous and none of you could answer to that.
Apparently, all of you who have rooted your g pad with kingo app had your private data and imei sent to an unknown chinese ip.
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oh ok, took down my pic, (no need to "advertise" how bad I am at reading a post, my name says enuf!) i got it now : )
ty for giving me yet another thing to worry about..lol j/k
k, well since there's nothing that I can do about it now since some Chinese guy is pouring over my Gmail acct as we speak,
i'll just go over there -----> & join the row of "sitting ducks" and "Chicken Littles" waiting for the sky to fall : )
Ms D

I updated the root thread with a little warning. I would recommend restoring to stock and then try rooting that way you have nothing in your data to be stolen (besides the IMEI). I hope someone will be brave enough to try the other root method from the G2 so we don't risk anything... anyone try it yet? (from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887)
If someone can confirm it to work I will update the root thread with that root method. I would try but I do not have the G pad yet

joshuadjohnson22 said:
I updated the root thread with a little warning. I would recommend restoring to stock and then try rooting that way you have nothing in your data to be stolen (besides the IMEI). I hope someone will be brave enough to try the other root method from the G2 so we don't risk anything... anyone try it yet? (from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887)
If someone can confirm it to work I will update the root thread with that root method. I would try but I do not have the G pad yet
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I tried the root method for the G2. While it worked very well for my d800 G2, it did NOT work on my G Pad.
SuperUser was copied onto my pad, but root was not successfully obtained There are no ill effects from the failure though.
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I have rooted with Kingo. Out of curiosity I ran malwarebytes anti malware tool from google play. Everything came up clean no trojans, etc. Not a guarantee but somewhat comforting,
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I just checked the "android_root.exe" on VirusTotal.com . Found 3/47 Trojan. So I'm definitly not running it on my os. -.- Waiting for a more secure method.
Here ist the link to the analyse: https:// w w w .virustotal.com/de/file/c524e47232f22fb4e619827c5e502984ff8360802c4b181444c0376b86c7b1cf/analysis/1384731756/

De La Vega Root Question

Does the De La Vega root method survive an OTA update. If I have a stock 4.3 T-Mobile Note 3, which I rooted with this method, will Root survive the OTA process? If so, can I just take the T-Mobile OTA, or should I use an alternate method?
I want to preserve my knox status for retail purposes, and don't want to use CF-Root to trip it. The thread is unclear, wondering if someone can confirm.
Thanks

I'm sorry but I personally have answered this 5 or 6 times. .. so here it is again. .. If you update you will lose root and there is no 0x0 knox method atm...It's only been a day so I'm sure someone is working on it. ...
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Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!

nygmam said:
Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!
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Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?

nickles96 said:
Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?
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I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.

nygmam said:
I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.
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I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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djtheraven said:
I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?

nickles96 said:
Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
BTW. Sorry your question did not get answered. The Q&A for the update was moved to the general section instead of this one, so i've been missing alot of Q&A actual questions.

nickles96 said:
Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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dragonstalker said:
That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
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I'm sorry I mean no disrespect, but what are you talking about? Breaking third party access to SD card is a feature?
And BTW yours is 3rd explanation for this mess, I heard security concerns and some other nonsense before, but to speed the device is a new one and biggest BS so far. How is SD card any concern for Google, since none of their current devices have SD card to begin with?
And as already mentioned the fix requires root and root breaks the Knox warranty on Samsung phones, so it's not an option for many.
If the speed was a reason for this so called "feature", how come all apps that come with firmware have access to SD card already, negating so called "feature" out of the box? Only third party apps that user may or may not install later are broken.
And how come the fix is not an option in the menu, available to all users, but requires root?
Sorry, but Google sabotaged SD card access on purpose to push people to their cloud services, that is the only logical explanation and this is not the first time they did that.

djtheraven said:
You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home

nygmam said:
Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home
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Yeah but that only works with 4.3...if you already updated then you are sol...
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Towelroot. Is it working on the G3?

Did someone try to root the G3 with Towelroot?
http://towelroot.com/

Yes, it will. Even on the S5 without tripping KNOX. Just try it yourself, no risk involved. I haven`t tried it myself but i`am absolutely sure it will get you root.

Good to know.
I should get my G3 next week so I will definitely use it.
Thanks.

liamR said:
Did someone try to root the G3 with Towelroot?
http://towelroot.com/
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Just confirmed with my international D855 unit.
Works flawlessly. Tested with Root checker and Titanium backup.
Still dazed as to how this works... possibly the fastest root method ever! :good:

MasK said:
Just confirmed with my international D855 unit.
Works flawlessly. Tested with Root checker and Titanium backup.
Still dazed as to how this works... possibly the fastest root method ever! :good:
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Appearently its a vulnurability in all android kernels that are build before june 3rd that lets the exploit do its work and install root during the boot sequence without beeing detected.

Yes. It's amazing. This guy have a great talent. He just left the iOS system and went for Android (He developed the iOS Jailbreak). Now Chainfire and other good developers here have competition

Working good

To unroot do u just need to do a reset? This works on uk model g3 with 2gb ram?
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vimto25 said:
To unroot do u just need to do a reset? This works on uk model g3 with 2gb ram?
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Yes, it works with all android devices atm and a data factory reset or flashing a factory image will unroot.

warranty still void tho I guess? I'm wanting to root really badly, but holding off as long as I can in case of problems as phone is litteraly hours old

557953 said:
warranty still void tho I guess? I'm wanting to root really badly, but holding off as long as I can in case of problems as phone is litteraly hours old
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I've never worried about the 'warranty voided' stories. If software could physically damage a device then the device is poorly made. I had three different rooted Samsung that failed due to the 'sudden death syndrome'. They were all fixed under warranty. Never heard of anyone having problems with warranty on a rooted device - only urban myths!
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557953 said:
warranty still void tho I guess? I'm wanting to root really badly, but holding off as long as I can in case of problems as phone is litteraly hours old
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Rooting has always voided warranty. .. There were just ways to return it to stock like it was never rooted.
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Epix4G said:
Rooting has always voided warranty. .. There were just ways to return it to stock like it was never rooted.
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Not with my rooted phones - any that died or had faults have always been fixed under warranty - going right back to the 'Hero'. If I buy a brand name Windows PC, wipe the hard disk and install Linux, the manufacturer still has to honour their hardware warranty under EU law. Same with mobiles/phones/tablets.
Maybe North American consumer protection laws are not as good as those here in Europe.
For instance, in the EU we can return anything we buy via mail order for a full refund within 14 days for any reason under the 'distance selling' regulations. Goods bought in shops or via mail order also have to be of 'merchantable quality'. As it currently stands, EU customers could obtain a full refund for the LG G3 as it does not work reliably with the Google Chromecast. This is probably why Samsung fixed a similar problem with a software patch when some of their devices had the same problem.
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Sucessfully rooted my D855 using Towelroot as well.Tested with root checker and adblock to verify it's working.
One problem I had was when I installed SuperSU,it says need to have binary updated.However,when I clicked "Normal"..it says installation failed?

JxXxn said:
Sucessfully rooted my D855 using Towelroot as well.Tested with root checker and adblock to verify it's working.
One problem I had was when I installed SuperSU,it says need to have binary updated.However,when I clicked "Normal"..it says installation failed?
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Yup.. likewise with SuperSU.
I uninstalled it and never bothered with it

To unroot, can somebody install SuperSu and try to uninstal root pls?
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qwerty1q said:
To unroot, can somebody install SuperSu and try to uninstal root pls?
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Doing so removes your root access (as you expect) but your device will still refuse to install OTA's
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JxXxn said:
Sucessfully rooted my D855 using Towelroot as well.Tested with root checker and adblock to verify it's working.
One problem I had was when I installed SuperSU,it says need to have binary updated.However,when I clicked "Normal"..it says installation failed?
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Yup.. likewise with SuperSU.
I uninstalled it and never bothered with it
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Alright.. I decided to try it again and now SuperSU works flawlessly.
I think you need to reboot and run it again. This time for me, it didn't ask me for a binary update. Just started working. Try it.

Lennyuk said:
Doing so removes your root access (as you expect) but your device will still refuse to install OTA's
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OK so I can unroot with SuperSu, the only disadvantage is no OTA, and to unroot with OTA I'd need to perform factory reset, right? How to do it?
After Factory reset,
Do LG backup app restore the whole rom with settings and apps, please?
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MasK said:
Alright.. I decided to try it again and now SuperSU works flawlessly.
I think you need to reboot and run it again. This time for me, it didn't ask me for a binary update. Just started working. Try it.
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Yes..it works now!And Hello from yr fellow Singaporean!!

Original Firmware without fully losing root?

There are a couple of apps I want to use which require the fire tv to be unrooted. Is there a way I can run clean firmware without losing the future option to root the device again? I'm currently running one of the latest pre-rooted firmwares, so I've installed clockworkmod recovery.
I'm assuming I can install one of the old firmware versions that is still rootable? Not sure what functionality I'd lose?

What apps require you to be unrooted? Isn't there an Xposed module that will hide root from the app?

Sky Go and Virgin Anywhere. Wasn't aware of a module?

Checked the module and it doesn't work with those apps.

tonton82 said:
Checked the module and it doesn't work with those apps.
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Did you try it, or just read about it? Rootcloak?

On the devs page it tells you it doesn't work with them.

tonton82 said:
On the devs page it tells you it doesn't work with them.
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Again, did you actually try it in case it does? It's not going to bootloop. And was it rootcloak?

Yes, root cloak. It specifically says on the page that it doesn't work, so is it really worth trying? Sky are notoriously strict with iOS and Android platforms.

tonton82 said:
Yes, root cloak. It specifically says on the page that it doesn't work, so is it really worth trying? Sky are notoriously strict with iOS and Android platforms.
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Fine, I'm done begging you to do it. You're on your own, good luck...

ldeveraux said:
Fine, I'm done begging you to do it. You're on your own, good luck...
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Are you always so stroppy? I've explained that the dev says it doesn't work. The thread on xda also says it doesn't work. I'm not going to waste my time checking something that everyone says doesn't work.
Could anyone help with my original question please?

will my changes stay after i unroot and re-encrypt

I rooted so i could change my phone so could wifi tether without paying cricket the $10 a month. but i lost my ability to use android. can i unroot and encrypt my phone again and keep my changes and use android pay?

Your information is very vague, you posted in wrong place this is development for nexus 5x. You didnt say nothing you did! No one can help you! Google is your friend!

hilla_killa said:
Your information is very vague, you posted in wrong place this is development for nexus 5x. You didnt say nothing you did! No one can help you! Google is your friend!
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sorry i used TWRP 3.0.2 and installed super user 2.78

Those 2 things would not make your phone unusable if you have 5x you shouldnt have posted in development

hilla_killa said:
Those 2 things would not make your phone unusable if you have 5x you shouldnt have posted in development
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i can't use android pay, pokEmon, or snapchat

Ok and you never will with root, shouldve researched things 1st, and thsts alot different from not being able to use android smh

hilla_killa said:
Ok and you never will with root, shouldve researched things 1st
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which is why i want to unroot and encrypt my phone, but what i can't find anywhere is if my tethering will be locked again

Just unistall supersu in the app. See if it will work.

milan187 said:
Just unistall supersu in the app. See if it will work.
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tried that, the unlocked bootloader is whats causing my issues

What did you change to get thethering to work? You can lock your bootloader but it's generally not a good idea of you have issues in the future.

why hasn't a moderator moved this thread yet to Q&A yet? lol

milan187 said:
What did you change to get thethering to work? You can lock your bootloader but it's generally not a good idea of you have issues in the future.
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well the guide on here to unlock my tethering didn't work so i downloaded an app called free tether unlocker and it got the job done surprisingly

Just try it and see if it still works.. Only way to really know
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