[Q] Root Apps - Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry If this is the wrong section. I'm kind of new here.
So anyways, I have had my kindle fire rooted for over a year with the hashcode 4.3 AOSP rom. I have recently tried to use screencast apps off the play store that say root-only, and thinking my tablet is rooted I install them. Whenever I try to use them it says something similar to "Must root device before use!" or whatever. Is there something I need to do to make them work??

BillBill17 said:
Sorry If this is the wrong section. I'm kind of new here.
So anyways, I have had my kindle fire rooted for over a year with the hashcode 4.3 AOSP rom. I have recently tried to use screencast apps off the play store that say root-only, and thinking my tablet is rooted I install them. Whenever I try to use them it says something similar to "Must root device before use!" or whatever. Is there something I need to do to make them work??
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In apps drawer (where all the apps are) there should be a superuser app, or maybe in Settings>Advanced options
Superuser is like a firewall to root access.
Sometimes superuser responds to slow, may need to check automatic response, default should be prompt.
Could try changing to allow , and see if that works, may not be good to leave it like that, but is ok for testing.
also could try root checker, or installing a different superuser

Superuser
sd_shadow said:
In apps drawer (where all the apps are) there should be a superuser app, or maybe in Settings>Advanced options
Superuser is like a firewall to root access.
Sometimes superuser responds to slow, may need to check automatic response, default should be prompt.
Could try changing to allow , and see if that works, may not be good to leave it like that, but is ok for testing.
also could try root checker, or installing a different superuser
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So I look I need some type of superuser app? Do I get that from kfu?

BillBill17 said:
So I look I need some type of superuser app? Do I get that from kfu?
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It's included in custom roms
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sd_shadow said:
It's included in custom roms
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Oh must be me ROM

BillBill17 said:
Oh must be me ROM
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Did you look for superuser in settings?
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[Q] Confirming Kindle Fire Root

Hi guys,
I've read extensively about rooting my new Kindle fire with the latest update.
After quite a few bumps and such, I managed to finish the rooting process.
Right now I'm wondering how in the world do I know if my Kindle Fire is rooted or not as I don't see any difference whatsoever.
Also I tried to copy the Vending.apk file into my system/app folder after mounting it as read and write but everytime I do it, it does nothing so I can't install it via the app folder. Does this indicate that I do not actually have root access? When I mounted the folder it said superuser granted to the folder if that's a vital piece of info.
But my main question as indicated by the thread title would be how do I know if I have root access? If I do, why is it not allowing me to move a .apk file into the app folder?
Thanks!
This Kindle Fire Utility can check for you.
So I ran it and it says
ADB Status: Online
ADB Root: No
Boot Status: 4000
Does this mean it's not rooted?
Or put it to a real world test. See if you can launch a prog like titanium backup and have root access granted to it.
This tool will also check for you.
aoaleman said:
This tool will also check for you.
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Thanks much aoaleman! I used your app there and it says I have root access. So would you happen to know why I cannot paste the Android market installer into the app folder even after I used the Kindle utility to enable read/write? It's just not showing up to let me install it.
renegade1357 said:
Thanks much aoaleman! I used your app there and it says I have root access. So would you happen to know why I cannot paste the Android market installer into the app folder even after I used the Kindle utility to enable read/write? It's just not showing up to let me install it.
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You're welcome!
Are you on stock Kindle Fire software? It might have something to do with that, not sure.
Yeah it is on stock. So I just used the install google apps on the kindle utility and it just did everything that somehow I failed to do. It is right now working for me.
Thanks so much for the help!
I'm now looking for a way to put CyanogenMod onto it. Do you have an opinion on the CM mod and/or if it's even possible for the kindle? What extras does it provide or anything that's useful that merits getting it?
renegade1357 said:
Yeah it is on stock. So I just used the install google apps on the kindle utility and it just did everything that somehow I failed to do. It is right now working for me.
Thanks so much for the help!
I'm now looking for a way to put CyanogenMod onto it. Do you have an opinion on the CM mod and/or if it's even possible for the kindle? What extras does it provide or anything that's useful that merits getting it?
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Well if you've ever used CyanogenMod on any other device like an Android phone you will know that it's just awesome. So much you can do and you have full control of what goes on and what you can install on it. I would definitely recommend CM over Stock Kindle software.
It basically turns into a fully functional tablet.
Right now I'm running GO Launcher EX, I'm assuming that's another version of a ROM right? Sorry kinda noobish with the vocab
renegade1357 said:
Right now I'm running GO Launcher EX, I'm assuming that's another version of a ROM right? Sorry kinda noobish with the vocab
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It's okay, everybody starts somewhere.
GO Launcher EX is basically just software to reorganize your applications and how you navigate your operating system. But if you're using GO Launcher that's kind of a preview of how using CyanogenMod would be.
So is there a thread or something that lists our what cyanogen gives?
renegade1357 said:
Yeah it is on stock. So I just used the install google apps on the kindle utility and it just did everything that somehow I failed to do. It is right now working for me.
Thanks so much for the help!
I'm now looking for a way to put CyanogenMod onto it. Do you have an opinion on the CM mod and/or if it's even possible for the kindle? What extras does it provide or anything that's useful that merits getting it?
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What file browser were you using to move the file? You must use a "root browser" to modify the system directory and some of them (like sufbs) require you to mount the system dir as rw before modifying.
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beyondlife said:
What file browser were you using to move the file? You must use a "root browser" to modify the system directory and some of them (like sufbs) require you to mount the system dir as rw before modifying.
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I was using File Expert to do it. I've been lead to believe it has root access. Am I wrong?
Thanks
aoaleman said:
This tool will also check for you.
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it doesnt work on rooted 6.3, maybe they need an update
aoaleman said:
This tool will also check for you.
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so how does one go about installing this app/tool?
i'm running 6.3.1
renegade1357 said:
I was using File Expert to do it. I've been lead to believe it has root access. Am I wrong?
Thanks
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Last time when I used KFU to root my KF, I needed to re-install the Superuser app (adb install C:\kfu\software\Superuser.apk) to gain root access. I use Root Explorer as my file browser. It allows you to choose Read Only or Read/Write for the folder you are working with.
aoaleman said:
This tool will also check for you.
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Can you clue me in on how to install this on my KF to check to see if I am rooted? I've run the KFU already, but not sure I'm rooted.
Thanks for the help!
Did you run the root on kfu? Do you have the play store?
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Need a new ROM

I will be needing to use Barclays app tomorrow for a number of different meetings tomorrow but as I have root access on my phone it currently doesnt work.
Can anyone recommend me a ROM to flash that doesnt have root and will therefor allow me to use the barclays app?
Thanks in advance...
xploitUK said:
I will be needing to use Barclays app tomorrow for a number of different meetings tomorrow but as I have root access on my phone it currently doesnt work.
Can anyone recommend me a ROM to flash that doesnt have root and will therefor allow me to use the barclays app?
Thanks in advance...
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Could go back to stock your stock rom
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OK will have to look and check which tomorrow I need - any easy way to do this?
xploitUK said:
OK will have to look and check which tomorrow I need - any easy way to do this?
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Sure have a read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 to see if your stock rom is listed & don't forget to hit the :thumbup: for @Mr Hofs thread
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md5 mismatch on hasoon2000's M8 toolkit
edit nvm
or, you could try this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-rootcloak-completely-hide-root-t2574647
@wase4711 I don't know of any that work for Barclays app, because it uses native code to check.
wase4711 said:
or, you could try this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-rootcloak-completely-hide-root-t2574647
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BenPope said:
@wase4711 I don't know of any that work for Barclays app, because it uses native code to check.
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Thanks, have already tried that, as @BenPope pointed out, not working at the moment though
Managed to get Barclay's app working - used twrp recovery file manager to delete the su files and apk

[Q] CM11 WITHOUT root

Morning all!
Possibly a silly question but I run 100% stock because of one app that will not work when rooted - Sky Go (a UK video streaming app). There is nothing that has got it to work when rooted so I've not bothered. I don't even need root access these days. BUT I'd like to give CM11 a go and I was wondering if you can turn off the root access in the ROM and then use a stock kernel and it would still boot/run?
If not, not to worry but seeing as CM11S does't have root it'd be nice to see the same available for other phones and not just the OnePlus One
I guess you could run the super su zip in recovery and then full unroot it through the app. Not sure if you'll run into any issues in cm without root, never tried it before
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otariq said:
I guess you could run the super su zip in recovery and then full unroot it through the app. Not sure if you'll run into any issues in cm without root, never tried it before
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Kinda what I was thinking, it's the kernel I'm more worried about as that needs to be a secure kernel otherwise the app won't work
Might just have to give it a try...
EddyOS said:
Kinda what I was thinking, it's the kernel I'm more worried about as that needs to be a secure kernel otherwise the app won't work
Might just have to give it a try...
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I take it root cloak doesn't work?
grentuu said:
I take it root cloak doesn't work?
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No, otherwise I would've used it
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
App: Sky Go - BSkyB - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bskyb.skygo
Method: Most likely detects root via native library (built with Android NDK). Unsure of exact method, but the Java portion of the app contains "VGDRM_STATUS_DEVICE_IS_ROOTED = -41942891", and based on the library name, it's a safe bet.
Relevant Files: libvgc.so
I think Sky Go looks for more than root doesn't it? I think it looks at kernel and software version also, so if you are running anything "custom" it instantly thinks you are rooted.
I just set up a separate rom on my Nexus 7 (Using multirom) for this exact reason.
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So y did the phone app just ask for SU Permission?

I'm stock 4.4.2 Sense 6 s off unlocked bootloader rooted stock rom, and while browsing xda premium, all of a sudden I got a notification for htc "get started" ,I hit deny and immediately after that I got the SuperSu prompt for phone 'com.htc.dialer… requesting SuperSu rights…. U denied it… anybody have any idea???
bdizzle1686 said:
I'm stock 4.4.2 Sense 6 s off unlocked bootloader rooted stock rom, and while browsing xda premium, all of a sudden I got a notification for htc "get started" ,I hit deny and immediately after that I got the SuperSu prompt for phone 'com.htc.dialer… requesting SuperSu rights…. U denied it… anybody have any idea???
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Verizon
See one of several existing threads: LINK
bdizzle1686 said:
I'm stock 4.4.2 Sense 6 s off unlocked bootloader rooted stock rom, and while browsing xda premium, all of a sudden I got a notification for htc "get started" ,I hit deny and immediately after that I got the SuperSu prompt for phone 'com.htc.dialer… requesting SuperSu rights…. U denied it… anybody have any idea???
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apps installed on the system partition have access to root without the need of SU to control it. When you install an app like superSU you now give that APK control of any request of root rights. When phone asked for root it didnt know that you have an app that is now handling the request and thats why you were notified.
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Verizon
See one of several existing threads: LINK
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synisterwolf said:
apps installed on the system partition have access to root without the need of SU to control it. When you install an app like superSU you now give that APK control of any request of root rights. When phone asked for root it didnt know that you have an app that is now handling the request and thats why you were notified.
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Thanks u guy's, I did a search before I posted but guess I didn't enter the right keywords..
santod040 said:
Verizon
See one of several existing threads: LINK
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Oh n Santod, I'm on 1 of your stock rooted odexed roms, I noticed SuperSu isn't installed as system app when I look in the settings in SuperSu, is it better to leave it as a user app, or go ahead with the install as system app??
bdizzle1686 said:
Oh n Santod, I'm on 1 of your stock rooted odexed roms, I noticed SuperSu isn't installed as system app when I look in the settings in SuperSu, is it better to leave it as a user app, or go ahead with the install as system app??
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It works just fine as is, no need to change anything.

[Q] Can't open SuperSu

I'm currently running rbox's updated 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 ROM. I can still grant superuser access to apps that request it, and apps that require su function properly, but I can't open the SuperSu app itself, it just crashes. When I try to open it from the KFTV launcher, the screen blinks and it returns to the applications menu. If I try to open SuperSu from XBMC, it causes XBMC to crash as well.
Logcat after trying to start SuperSu: http://pastebin.com/QNTd684U
BlaqkAudio said:
I'm currently running rbox's updated 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 ROM. I can still grant superuser access to apps that request it, and apps that require su function properly, but I can't open the SuperSu app itself, it just crashes. When I try to open it from the KFTV launcher, the screen blinks and it returns to the applications menu. If I try to open SuperSu from XBMC, it causes XBMC to crash as well.
Logcat after trying to start SuperSu: http://pastebin.com/QNTd684U
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+1. Me too.
mine has no option to launch. is that what you mean?
it seems to work fine when apps request root but cannot be opened itself.
a bit annoying.
jarayn said:
mine has no option to launch. is that what you mean?
it seems to work fine when apps request root but cannot be opened itself.
a bit annoying.
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I think it has to do with the way I'm installing it. In theory if you were to delete the SuperSu.apk from /system/app and sideload the apk yourself, it might work better. And if you horribly break things, you can always just reinstall the prerooted rom to get it back.
rbox said:
I think it has to do with the way I'm installing it. In theory if you were to delete the SuperSu.apk from /system/app and sideload the apk yourself, it might work better. And if you horribly break things, you can always just reinstall the prerooted rom to get it back.
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I deleted it and sideloaded it back. Same behavior. Just want to get into its settings. I used the latest PlayStore version APK.
Yeah, same here. I ended up installing Clockworkmod's Superuser and uninstalling SuperSU. All I needed was the ability to disable notifications on a per app basis.
BlaqkAudio said:
Yeah, same here. I ended up installing Clockworkmod's Superuser and uninstalling SuperSU. All I needed was the ability to disable notifications on a per app basis.
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Could you explain that? Where is CWM's SuperUser?
jmerrilljr2 said:
Could you explain that? Where is CWM's SuperUser?
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+1. I installed latest ChainFire's SuperSU. Is there another? Is that our problem? Is there a CWR SU?
jmerrilljr2 said:
Could you explain that? Where is CWM's SuperUser?
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schneid said:
+1. I installed latest ChainFire's SuperSU. Is there another? Is that our problem? Is there a CWR SU?
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Direct download from CWM website
You'll have to re-approve superuser requests since it's a different app. I believe this is the same superuser app that comes with Cyanogenmod
BlaqkAudio said:
Direct download from CWM website
You'll have to re-approve superuser requests since it's a different app. I believe this is the same superuser app that comes with Cyanogenmod
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I can start including this one in the prerooted instead of supersu if it works better.
rbox said:
I can start including this one in the prerooted instead of supersu if it works better.
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From what I read the supersu is always the best one to choose. Certainly with phones.
I just dont know why we cant launch the app as normal to adjust settings.
Can you launch yours? Can anyone?
jarayn said:
From what I read the supersu is always the best one to choose. Certainly with phones.
I just dont know why we cant launch the app as normal to adjust settings.
Can you launch yours? Can anyone?
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I don't know about "always the best". It's all the same crap really. CM ships with Superuser and it seems to work fine for everyone using that.
I can't launch it either.
jarayn said:
From what I read the supersu is always the best one to choose. Certainly with phones.
I just dont know why we cant launch the app as normal to adjust settings.
Can you launch yours? Can anyone?
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Mine launches fine. I can review which apps have been granted, add and remove them, etc.
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I also had the same issues. However, I was able to fix it by deleting "/system/app/SuperSu.apk" and then side-loading an older version of SuperSu (2.01). So, it looks as if the issue may be with compatibility with more recent versions.
wunderdrug said:
I also had the same issues. However, I was able to fix it by deleting "/system/app/SuperSu.apk" and then side-loading an older version of SuperSu (2.01). So, it looks as if the issue may be with compatibility with more recent versions.
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same story here + can not erase "Supersu.apk"
"rm failed for /system/app/Superuser.apk, Read-only file system"
I am on pre-rooted 51.1.4.0_user_514006420
opened towelroot again, clicked "make it rain" it tells me "device is not supported" (since pre-rooted rom ?)
getting confused here
coops_one said:
same story here + can not erase "Supersu.apk"
"rm failed for /system/app/Superuser.apk, Read-only file system"
I am on pre-rooted 51.1.4.0_user_514006420
opened towelroot again, clicked "make it rain" it tells me "device is not supported" (since pre-rooted rom ?)
getting confused here
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Did you mount the file system as read/write before you tried to delete it?
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collindv said:
Did you mount the file system as read/write before you tried to delete it?
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nope, did not
thanks for the tip!
SuperSU 2.00 running :victory:
collindv said:
Mine launches fine. I can review which apps have been granted, add and remove them, etc.
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What version of SuperSU are you running ?? And what PreRooted FW are you on too ??
Y314K said:
What version of SuperSU are you running ?? And what PreRooted FW are you on too ??
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Install SuperUser. I moved on form supersu as I too wanted to change and couldn't. Superuser works just fine.
navigates said:
Install SuperUser. I moved on form supersu as I too wanted to change and couldn't. Superuser works just fine.
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Is this the SuperUser that is working for all on the FireTV... Does it matter what version ?? So latest works just fine...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.superuser
If so.. Is there a correct order to get rid of the SuperSU & Sideload the new one ??

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