Hi guys,
I've read extensively about rooting my new Kindle fire with the latest update.
After quite a few bumps and such, I managed to finish the rooting process.
Right now I'm wondering how in the world do I know if my Kindle Fire is rooted or not as I don't see any difference whatsoever.
Also I tried to copy the Vending.apk file into my system/app folder after mounting it as read and write but everytime I do it, it does nothing so I can't install it via the app folder. Does this indicate that I do not actually have root access? When I mounted the folder it said superuser granted to the folder if that's a vital piece of info.
But my main question as indicated by the thread title would be how do I know if I have root access? If I do, why is it not allowing me to move a .apk file into the app folder?
Thanks!
This Kindle Fire Utility can check for you.
So I ran it and it says
ADB Status: Online
ADB Root: No
Boot Status: 4000
Does this mean it's not rooted?
Or put it to a real world test. See if you can launch a prog like titanium backup and have root access granted to it.
This tool will also check for you.
aoaleman said:
This tool will also check for you.
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Thanks much aoaleman! I used your app there and it says I have root access. So would you happen to know why I cannot paste the Android market installer into the app folder even after I used the Kindle utility to enable read/write? It's just not showing up to let me install it.
renegade1357 said:
Thanks much aoaleman! I used your app there and it says I have root access. So would you happen to know why I cannot paste the Android market installer into the app folder even after I used the Kindle utility to enable read/write? It's just not showing up to let me install it.
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You're welcome!
Are you on stock Kindle Fire software? It might have something to do with that, not sure.
Yeah it is on stock. So I just used the install google apps on the kindle utility and it just did everything that somehow I failed to do. It is right now working for me.
Thanks so much for the help!
I'm now looking for a way to put CyanogenMod onto it. Do you have an opinion on the CM mod and/or if it's even possible for the kindle? What extras does it provide or anything that's useful that merits getting it?
renegade1357 said:
Yeah it is on stock. So I just used the install google apps on the kindle utility and it just did everything that somehow I failed to do. It is right now working for me.
Thanks so much for the help!
I'm now looking for a way to put CyanogenMod onto it. Do you have an opinion on the CM mod and/or if it's even possible for the kindle? What extras does it provide or anything that's useful that merits getting it?
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Well if you've ever used CyanogenMod on any other device like an Android phone you will know that it's just awesome. So much you can do and you have full control of what goes on and what you can install on it. I would definitely recommend CM over Stock Kindle software.
It basically turns into a fully functional tablet.
Right now I'm running GO Launcher EX, I'm assuming that's another version of a ROM right? Sorry kinda noobish with the vocab
renegade1357 said:
Right now I'm running GO Launcher EX, I'm assuming that's another version of a ROM right? Sorry kinda noobish with the vocab
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It's okay, everybody starts somewhere.
GO Launcher EX is basically just software to reorganize your applications and how you navigate your operating system. But if you're using GO Launcher that's kind of a preview of how using CyanogenMod would be.
So is there a thread or something that lists our what cyanogen gives?
renegade1357 said:
Yeah it is on stock. So I just used the install google apps on the kindle utility and it just did everything that somehow I failed to do. It is right now working for me.
Thanks so much for the help!
I'm now looking for a way to put CyanogenMod onto it. Do you have an opinion on the CM mod and/or if it's even possible for the kindle? What extras does it provide or anything that's useful that merits getting it?
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What file browser were you using to move the file? You must use a "root browser" to modify the system directory and some of them (like sufbs) require you to mount the system dir as rw before modifying.
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beyondlife said:
What file browser were you using to move the file? You must use a "root browser" to modify the system directory and some of them (like sufbs) require you to mount the system dir as rw before modifying.
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I was using File Expert to do it. I've been lead to believe it has root access. Am I wrong?
Thanks
aoaleman said:
This tool will also check for you.
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it doesnt work on rooted 6.3, maybe they need an update
aoaleman said:
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so how does one go about installing this app/tool?
i'm running 6.3.1
renegade1357 said:
I was using File Expert to do it. I've been lead to believe it has root access. Am I wrong?
Thanks
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Last time when I used KFU to root my KF, I needed to re-install the Superuser app (adb install C:\kfu\software\Superuser.apk) to gain root access. I use Root Explorer as my file browser. It allows you to choose Read Only or Read/Write for the folder you are working with.
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Can you clue me in on how to install this on my KF to check to see if I am rooted? I've run the KFU already, but not sure I'm rooted.
Thanks for the help!
Did you run the root on kfu? Do you have the play store?
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do haret users need to root? trying to modify a file in the android system folder, and can't does, that mean i'm not rooted?
thanks
mallard729 said:
do haret users need to root? trying to modify a file in the android system folder, and can't does, that mean i'm not rooted?
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From wat i understand its already rooted.
while i'm booted into android, i can't edit any files in the system folder.
mallard729 said:
while i'm booted into android, i can't edit any files in the system folder.
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how are you trying to edit those files?
the phone is rooted, but it doesn't mean it sudo every single app you run. plus if i'm not mistaken, / is mounted as read-only. you'll need to remount it as r/w
i' ve tried with andexplorer (downloaded from market) and root explorer. trying to edit build.prop file
do haret users need to root? trying to modify a file in the android system folder, and can't does, that mean i'm not rooted?
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From wat i understand its already rooted.
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so does that mean we can posibly or more thn likely run the android apps that require rooting? i see ton of cool apps but said needed to be rooted plus have busybox(whatever that is, ill find out soon enuff) i have rootexplorer but worried to go changing stuff around since this isnt a true rom..but trying to push the limits or go deep into the world of Android..lol
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Can anyone show how to mount the system as R/W ??
From wat i understand its already rooted.
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so does that mean we can posibly or more thn likely run the android apps that require rooting? i see ton of cool apps but said needed to be rooted plus have busybox(whatever that is, ill find out soon enuff) i have rootexplorer but worried to go changing stuff around since this isnt a true rom..but trying to push the limits or go deep into the world of Android..lol
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I already confirmed. Rooted apps wrk on this build. I downloaded and they wrk fine. so I guess we are already rooted. so we got 1 up on regular Android devices. ;-)
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yea how do we mount as R/W i need to edit my build.prop file
Because AdFree is not working on Desire:
I've made hosts file which is compilation of two lists and some manual additions (for correct blocking of admob). So I decided to share with my list. Use it if You want to. Please tell me if this forum is wrong for that list.
Sorry for the n00b question but how do you install this?
Nice one mate. You've just reminded me I needed to redo my hosts file after installing Modaco Froyo, and I might as well use yours as it'll be more up to date than mine.
Ghisy said:
Sorry for the n00b question but how do you install this?
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ditto this, instructions for us noobies?
unzip the host file
than enter recovery
adb-windows shell mount /system
adb-windows shell mv /system/etc/hosts /sdcard/backuphost
adb push c:\hosts /system/etc
that should wrok if you unziped hosts.zip to c:\ and if something goes wrong you have your original hosts file backed up in /sdcard/backuphost
hope this helps
p.s. i didn't try this
did everything, and adfree is still not working in froyo...
Thanks anyway!
Edit: Now, Adfree FCs!
Edit 2: I did it again and it worked!
Could someone please create a zip file, that can be falshed through clockworkmod recovery? This would be fantastic.
Try this, mate. [Click!]
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Try this, mate. [Click!]
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Thanks dnlgee I put it in my repo on ROM Manager
This is great, thanks for sharing - it seems to work great. I might go back to a stock hosts though - I like to block ads when browsing, but I feel bad about doing it for ad-supported applications. That's just me though
shawe_ewahs said:
Thanks dnlgee I put it in my repo on ROM Manager
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No worries, just checked your repo, there's a lot of stuff there haha.
dnlgee said:
No worries, just checked your repo, there's a lot of stuff there haha.
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Yes, trying to do thinks more easy for all people
Thank you. I have been looking for this for a long time
Great work, it worked a charm until I changed to a new rom, went to use it again and it was gone from the downloads in Rom Manager.
Big thanks.
Panic over, It was saved as a download on my SD card, Rom Manager flashed it again from the saved location no problem.
Love it.
danbst said:
Your stuff is gone from Rom Manager it seems mate.
Would I be right in assuming I can put this on my card renamed as update.zip (if I need to?)
Use rom manager to boot into recovery and flash it manually?
Great work BTW, it worked a charm until I changed to a new rom, went to use it again and as I say it was gone.
Big thanks.
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You don't need to rename the zip file if you're using ROM Manager, but yes you should be able to install this through the manager.
If you can't download it through the ROM Manager report, my link is always online and will be updated when possible.
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Just a confused question;
If we have a rooted device, what's the reason for having to use the recovery menu? Can you not simply overwrite the file?
Thanks
Yea you can, provided you reboot into recovery and mount the system, then pull or push the device back into the system.
Either way you need to boot into recovery as there's no root method that fully allows read/write access for the Desire at the moment.
Psy-Blade said:
Just a confused question;
If we have a rooted device, what's the reason for having to use the recovery menu? Can you not simply overwrite the file?
Thanks
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It should work like this. Unfortunatelly you can't mount system partition as read/write. That is because system is blocking this in some way.
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Another quick one:
I used the zip file which people are using in the rom manager. I rebooted into clockwork and selected apply update from zip and selected the file. Appears I broke the system though lol .
Is this not the right way of doing it?
Also how do you type commands in the recovery? :S
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Try this, mate. [Click!]
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Link dead ??!! "File does not exist. Make sure you specified correct file name."
I am a complete noob and I have a question. I am going to root my kindle fire with "Kindle Fire Utility 0.98+" and I know that I have to install permanent root, but what else on the menu do I need to install, and is there any particular order to install them, and how to UN-root if I have too.
Sorry for a stupid question but I am not accustom to these things like the younger generation.
Thanks,
Scotty
Make sure what kindle version you got. You don't want to brick it. All the tools you need should be in kfu. Good luck
rickballs said:
Make sure what kindle version you got. You don't want to brick it. All the tools you need should be in kfu. Good luck
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I have version 6.3.2 on the kindle fire. I have done research and reading but can not figure out if I need to install eveyrthing that is on the menu or what these things do. Once I figure that out, I can go ahead and root but not until.
Thank you for your reply,
Scotty
LicoricePete said:
I have version 6.3.2 on the kindle fire. I have done research and reading but can not figure out if I need to install eveyrthing that is on the menu or what these things do. Once I figure that out, I can go ahead and root but not until.
Thank you for your reply,
Scotty
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If all you need to do is root, just select the root option in the menu. It will install everything you need.
Enjoy!
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awidawad said:
If all you need to do is root, just select the root option in the menu. It will install everything you need.
Enjoy!
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Thank you so much awidawad for the reply. I think I only need root. Will I be able to Un-root if I need to or do I need something else ?
LicoricePete said:
Thank you so much awidawad for the reply. I think I only need root. Will I be able to Un-root if I need to or do I need something else ?
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I know there is, but the only option I can give you is to uninstall superuser when you are rooted. That will not give anything access to root. Is this the same as unrooting? I don't know.
Also, you could flash the stock update.zip after taking appropriate measures in TWRP and wiping the things you need to to go back to the unmodded kindle fire OS.
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I do not count myself any higher than anybody else.
LicoricePete said:
Thank you so much awidawad for the reply. I think I only need root. Will I be able to Un-root if I need to or do I need something else ?
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Yes, just download one of the update files from KFU and install them and you will be unrooted. Or uninstall superuser after deleting su in the /system directory.
Sorry If this is the wrong section. I'm kind of new here.
So anyways, I have had my kindle fire rooted for over a year with the hashcode 4.3 AOSP rom. I have recently tried to use screencast apps off the play store that say root-only, and thinking my tablet is rooted I install them. Whenever I try to use them it says something similar to "Must root device before use!" or whatever. Is there something I need to do to make them work??
BillBill17 said:
Sorry If this is the wrong section. I'm kind of new here.
So anyways, I have had my kindle fire rooted for over a year with the hashcode 4.3 AOSP rom. I have recently tried to use screencast apps off the play store that say root-only, and thinking my tablet is rooted I install them. Whenever I try to use them it says something similar to "Must root device before use!" or whatever. Is there something I need to do to make them work??
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In apps drawer (where all the apps are) there should be a superuser app, or maybe in Settings>Advanced options
Superuser is like a firewall to root access.
Sometimes superuser responds to slow, may need to check automatic response, default should be prompt.
Could try changing to allow , and see if that works, may not be good to leave it like that, but is ok for testing.
also could try root checker, or installing a different superuser
Superuser
sd_shadow said:
In apps drawer (where all the apps are) there should be a superuser app, or maybe in Settings>Advanced options
Superuser is like a firewall to root access.
Sometimes superuser responds to slow, may need to check automatic response, default should be prompt.
Could try changing to allow , and see if that works, may not be good to leave it like that, but is ok for testing.
also could try root checker, or installing a different superuser
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So I look I need some type of superuser app? Do I get that from kfu?
BillBill17 said:
So I look I need some type of superuser app? Do I get that from kfu?
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It's included in custom roms
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sd_shadow said:
It's included in custom roms
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Oh must be me ROM
BillBill17 said:
Oh must be me ROM
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Did you look for superuser in settings?
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I'm currently running rbox's updated 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 ROM. I can still grant superuser access to apps that request it, and apps that require su function properly, but I can't open the SuperSu app itself, it just crashes. When I try to open it from the KFTV launcher, the screen blinks and it returns to the applications menu. If I try to open SuperSu from XBMC, it causes XBMC to crash as well.
Logcat after trying to start SuperSu: http://pastebin.com/QNTd684U
BlaqkAudio said:
I'm currently running rbox's updated 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 ROM. I can still grant superuser access to apps that request it, and apps that require su function properly, but I can't open the SuperSu app itself, it just crashes. When I try to open it from the KFTV launcher, the screen blinks and it returns to the applications menu. If I try to open SuperSu from XBMC, it causes XBMC to crash as well.
Logcat after trying to start SuperSu: http://pastebin.com/QNTd684U
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+1. Me too.
mine has no option to launch. is that what you mean?
it seems to work fine when apps request root but cannot be opened itself.
a bit annoying.
jarayn said:
mine has no option to launch. is that what you mean?
it seems to work fine when apps request root but cannot be opened itself.
a bit annoying.
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I think it has to do with the way I'm installing it. In theory if you were to delete the SuperSu.apk from /system/app and sideload the apk yourself, it might work better. And if you horribly break things, you can always just reinstall the prerooted rom to get it back.
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I think it has to do with the way I'm installing it. In theory if you were to delete the SuperSu.apk from /system/app and sideload the apk yourself, it might work better. And if you horribly break things, you can always just reinstall the prerooted rom to get it back.
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I deleted it and sideloaded it back. Same behavior. Just want to get into its settings. I used the latest PlayStore version APK.
Yeah, same here. I ended up installing Clockworkmod's Superuser and uninstalling SuperSU. All I needed was the ability to disable notifications on a per app basis.
BlaqkAudio said:
Yeah, same here. I ended up installing Clockworkmod's Superuser and uninstalling SuperSU. All I needed was the ability to disable notifications on a per app basis.
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Could you explain that? Where is CWM's SuperUser?
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Could you explain that? Where is CWM's SuperUser?
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+1. I installed latest ChainFire's SuperSU. Is there another? Is that our problem? Is there a CWR SU?
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Could you explain that? Where is CWM's SuperUser?
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schneid said:
+1. I installed latest ChainFire's SuperSU. Is there another? Is that our problem? Is there a CWR SU?
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Direct download from CWM website
You'll have to re-approve superuser requests since it's a different app. I believe this is the same superuser app that comes with Cyanogenmod
BlaqkAudio said:
Direct download from CWM website
You'll have to re-approve superuser requests since it's a different app. I believe this is the same superuser app that comes with Cyanogenmod
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I can start including this one in the prerooted instead of supersu if it works better.
rbox said:
I can start including this one in the prerooted instead of supersu if it works better.
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From what I read the supersu is always the best one to choose. Certainly with phones.
I just dont know why we cant launch the app as normal to adjust settings.
Can you launch yours? Can anyone?
jarayn said:
From what I read the supersu is always the best one to choose. Certainly with phones.
I just dont know why we cant launch the app as normal to adjust settings.
Can you launch yours? Can anyone?
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I don't know about "always the best". It's all the same crap really. CM ships with Superuser and it seems to work fine for everyone using that.
I can't launch it either.
jarayn said:
From what I read the supersu is always the best one to choose. Certainly with phones.
I just dont know why we cant launch the app as normal to adjust settings.
Can you launch yours? Can anyone?
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Mine launches fine. I can review which apps have been granted, add and remove them, etc.
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I also had the same issues. However, I was able to fix it by deleting "/system/app/SuperSu.apk" and then side-loading an older version of SuperSu (2.01). So, it looks as if the issue may be with compatibility with more recent versions.
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I also had the same issues. However, I was able to fix it by deleting "/system/app/SuperSu.apk" and then side-loading an older version of SuperSu (2.01). So, it looks as if the issue may be with compatibility with more recent versions.
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same story here + can not erase "Supersu.apk"
"rm failed for /system/app/Superuser.apk, Read-only file system"
I am on pre-rooted 51.1.4.0_user_514006420
opened towelroot again, clicked "make it rain" it tells me "device is not supported" (since pre-rooted rom ?)
getting confused here
coops_one said:
same story here + can not erase "Supersu.apk"
"rm failed for /system/app/Superuser.apk, Read-only file system"
I am on pre-rooted 51.1.4.0_user_514006420
opened towelroot again, clicked "make it rain" it tells me "device is not supported" (since pre-rooted rom ?)
getting confused here
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Did you mount the file system as read/write before you tried to delete it?
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collindv said:
Did you mount the file system as read/write before you tried to delete it?
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nope, did not
thanks for the tip!
SuperSU 2.00 running :victory:
collindv said:
Mine launches fine. I can review which apps have been granted, add and remove them, etc.
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What version of SuperSU are you running ?? And what PreRooted FW are you on too ??
Y314K said:
What version of SuperSU are you running ?? And what PreRooted FW are you on too ??
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Install SuperUser. I moved on form supersu as I too wanted to change and couldn't. Superuser works just fine.
navigates said:
Install SuperUser. I moved on form supersu as I too wanted to change and couldn't. Superuser works just fine.
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Is this the SuperUser that is working for all on the FireTV... Does it matter what version ?? So latest works just fine...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.superuser
If so.. Is there a correct order to get rid of the SuperSU & Sideload the new one ??