Is there anything wrong switching back and forth between ART VS DALVIK?
IT seems that some games won't operate properly in one or the other.
That said I notice that I cannot install real racing 3 from the play store. In fact if I search for it. It does not show up. If I click a direct link for it it says my device not supported.. Any ideas?
TKG26 said:
Is there anything wrong switching back and forth between ART VS DALVIK?
IT seems that some games won't operate properly in one or the other.
That said I notice that I cannot install real racing 3 from the play store. In fact if I search for it. It does not show up. If I click a direct link for it it says my device not supported.. Any ideas?
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Did you modify your dpi?
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No box stock just have used art and dalvik through developer options ..
No alterations to anything
TKG26 said:
No box stock just have used art and dalvik through developer options ..
No alterations to anything
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Maybe the game doesn't officially support our resolution.
For some apps that don't want to install via play store I install them through Amazon app store, but that's only if they are also available on there because it doesn't do some of these "officially" supported checks.
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That's what I'm thinking too.
Anyway to my origal question. Is there any issues switching back and forth
TKG26 said:
That's what I'm thinking too.
Anyway to my origal question. Is there any issues switching back and forth
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No issue at all. Have smashed b/w dalvik and ART several times. Finally on ART, no lag, amazing battery life.
OK cool thanks. So save to experiment
Curious, I switched to ART once and after every time the phone was rebooted it came up as one app was being optimized, anyone else had this happen?
stevessvt said:
Curious, I switched to ART once and after every time the phone was rebooted it came up as one app was being optimized, anyone else had this happen?
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This doesn't happen to me on my G3 or Nexus 7. Both of them only upgraded the apps once, so I have no idea what's going on with your phone.
nathan575 said:
This doesn't happen to me on my G3 or Nexus 7. Both of them only upgraded the apps once, so I have no idea what's going on with your phone.
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Same here. After switching to ART, every time the phone is rebooted, it optimizes apps.
ART runs better for me.
Dalvik should have better compatibility.
I know some games simply don't work with ART, they FC immediately. Developers probably won't update it until L is out for a while.
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Riddle me this: I'm sitting here looking at a working Google Maps. Yet, Play says it's incompatible with my Nexus 7. And, that's not the only one! Apps like Boat Browser and, of all things, GMail! Anyone else running into this?
gjtoth said:
Riddle me this: I'm sitting here looking at a working Google Maps. Yet, Play says it's incompatible with my Nexus 7. And, that's not the only one! Apps like Boat Browser and, of all things, GMail! Anyone else running into this?
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Screenshots? (power+volume down)
Off the top of my head, if you flashed a custom ROM, it could be that.
I ran a WW firmware ROM on my US Transformer Prime and certain apps became incompatible.
jaycustom said:
Screenshots? (power+volume down)
Off the top of my head, if you flashed a custom ROM, it could be that.
I ran a WW firmware ROM on my US Transformer Prime and certain apps became incompatible.
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Screenshots forthcoming. Stock but rooted ROM.
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Changing your DPI can cause compatibility issues. If you haven't changed that, you may wanna try wiping data for play store app in settings.
Caliyork said:
Changing your DPI can cause compatibility issues. If you haven't changed that, you may wanna try wiping data for play store app in settings.
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What is the default DPI? I changed some settings with Rom Toolbox Pro and that may have been one of them. Not sure, though.
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What is the default DPI? I changed some settings with Rom Toolbox Pro and that may have been one of them. Not sure, though.
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LCD Density = DPI
Did you change your screen size to make things either smaller or larger? that will break compaitiblity in the play store.
jbrawley1 said:
LCD Density = DPI
Did you change your screen size to make things either smaller or larger? that will break compaitiblity in the play store.
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Found it, thanks! I reset it to 213. Still no joy.
gjtoth said:
Found it, thanks! I reset it to 213. Still no joy.
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OK, I cleared caches, and that seems to have done the trick for MOST of the apps that showed incompatible. Strangely, GMail still shows incompatible, but I can deal with that. I was having autorotation problems and that's fixed now, too.
Thanks to all for your assistance.
man i am loving it
I'm glad you like it! (My opinion At least) rooting it and installing a jellybean ROM makes it a lot better, plus you get to use some amazinhg apps that require a rooted phone
sweet
blacuda said:
I'm glad you like it! (My opinion At least) rooting it and installing a jellybean ROM makes it a lot better, plus you get to use some amazinhg apps that require a rooted phone
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sweet, actually im running blazer 1.9 ROM with L13 modem and it is supersmooth. I have a question though, how do you update kernel?
You clear the cache partition and dalvik cache, and then install the kernall from SD card. There are some good kernels over at the sprint galaxy s3 original development section, make sure its for your type of ROM first though.
blacuda said:
You clear the cache partition and dalvik cache, and then install the kernall from SD card. There are some good kernels over at the sprint galaxy s3 original development section, make sure its for your type of ROM first though.
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I am now using the BLAZER ROM 1.9 and i am getting an error when trying to get an app. It says ythat I have insufficient storage and i have WAYYY plenty. Ive cleared dalvik and still nothing. I cleared history and nothing. Sux i cannot post in the dev section
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I am now using the BLAZER ROM 1.9 and i am getting an error when trying to get an app. It says ythat I have insufficient storage and i have WAYYY plenty. Ive cleared dalvik and still nothing. I cleared history and nothing. Sux i cannot post in the dev section
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No, actually it's perfect that you can't. Use the Q & A section for that stuff or try searching to see if somene else has had the same issue. I love my SGS3, as well, btw. One of the best devices I've ever owned including my gaming laptop, my original Nintendo, Super Nintendo and XBOX 360.
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No, actually it's perfect that you can't. Use the Q & A section for that stuff or try searching to see if somene else has had the same issue. I love my SGS3, as well, btw. One of the best devices I've ever owned including my gaming laptop, my original Nintendo, Super Nintendo and XBOX 360.
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Ahh ok. I have been looking everywhere for a solution to my problem, Ive surfed the forums and found some others who had issue but their troubleshooting steps are either not helpful or the apps they use cant even be installed on my GS3 because of this bug. For example, I read that using Lucky Patcher is the best solution but then I tried to install it and it said "no storage" available.
Some apps install and some do not..thats is what is wierd about it. Most say its the app trying to authenticate the OS
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Ahh ok. I have been looking everywhere for a solution to my problem, Ive surfed the forums and found some others who had issue but their troubleshooting steps are either not helpful or the apps they use cant even be installed on my GS3 because of this bug. For example, I read that using Lucky Patcher is the best solution but then I tried to install it and it said "no storage" available.
Some apps install and some do not..thats is what is wierd about it. Most say its the app trying to authenticate the OS
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FIXED!!! was ROMTOOLBOX set to save to SD..moved it back to Internal and voila it works
ANOTHER ? LOL
why dont we have a 4G icon? GS3 doesnt support 4G? its only LTE or 3g?
at first i thought this was a iphone 4/4s deal but then i said wth ill get it boy was i surprised at what they did screen is clear it feels good in my hand the overall aspect of the phone is nice
I ended up having a commercial moment the other day. At Starbucks and checking Twitter. Old dude goes, "that's not the new iPhone is it?" I go, "nah it's the galaxy s3." He goes, "nice f'ing screen"
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The Root said:
I ended up having a commercial moment the other day. At Starbucks and checking Twitter. Old dude goes, "that's not the new iPhone is it?" I go, "nah it's the galaxy s3." He goes, "nice f'ing screen"
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thats what im talking bout
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thats what im talking bout
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anyone using romtoolbox? I am unable to change my battery icon even though ive selected the icon many times and it installed many times
Hi. My phone (on Stock unrooted 4.1.2, didn't upgrade to 4.2.2 for no reason) has recently become very, very slow. I guess the reason for that is that I recently copied an MKV movie to it. Ever since I did that, it has been dead slow. Even though I have deleted it now, the sluggishness still persists. There's nothing else that I did (ever since this problem started), and please note, my phone was blazing fast before this, so I don't expect suggestions to flash a new ROM or kernel (because I'm a noob when it comes to flashing ROMs and stuff, and I will have so many more problems doing so). I think my phone can go back to the state on stock ROM and kernel.
Another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988233) mentions the same problem, I've found out that I have the exact same problem. My phone wasn't sluggish before I copied the movie. But now that I have removed it, the phone is stil slow and sluggish*
* what does it mean when i say "slow and sluggish":
- pressing the lock button doesn't turn the screen on, i have to do it a couple of times
- apps take longer to load
- widgets don't load (most of them)
- everything that you can imagine (swiping, sliding, etc) is slow.
Help, please. Thanks in advance.
Clear the cache of the video player application that you tried to play the video with. That may help. Go into settings>apps>downloaded>your video app>clear cache.
If it's the Gallery, go into all applications instead of downloaded.
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It may be caused by installing too many RAM-hogging apps, if you're rooted you can try using Greenify from the play store and see if that helps.
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Clear the cache of the video player application that you tried to play the video with. That may help. Go into settings>apps>downloaded>your video app>clear cache.
If it's the Gallery, go into all applications instead of downloaded.
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I didn't copy the movie for playing, I copied it to transfer it somewhere else. And I've cleared cache of the video player MX Player just to be sure, and uninstalled it. Still no use.
One more thing. Apps are not responding, even stock apps. Once I open an app, it takes forever to load, and the message pops up: "<app> is not responding, would you like to stop it?" with the options "wait, stop, report".
All this has started ever since I copied that movie to my phone. Before that, it was blazing fast, no RAM hogging apps or anything.
How about you try to save all your pics/files you have on your phone, and do a factory reset? I know that's the highest you will go, but still worth a shot!
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How about you try to save all your pics/files you have on your phone, and do a factory reset? I know that's the highest you will go, but still worth a shot!
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Restore? I wanted to keep that as a last resort!
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Restore? I wanted to keep that as a last resort!
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Well, I have everything on my phone backed up, so I don't find it hard to do a factory reset so ...
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Well, I have everything on my phone backed up, so I don't find it hard to do a factory reset so ...
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Noob question, and I'd rather google it; but now since I have an expert in reach, I'd prefer asking. How do you backup?
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Noob question, and I'd rather google it; but now since I have an expert in reach, I'd prefer asking. How do you backup?
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SMS backup and restore - for SMS ( When and IF I need to back some up ), Titanium Backup for everything else ( if you are rooted ) - though, lately I'm using Carbon - you can back up your sms, data, everything you need without root ...
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SMS backup and restore - for SMS ( When and IF I need to back some up ), Titanium Backup for everything else ( if you are rooted ) - though, lately I'm using Carbon - you can back up your sms, data, everything you need without root ...
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Okay, I found "Helium" to do the backup job just right. Now, how to restore?
P.S. Just updated to 4.2.2 to find utter disappointment (and more lag).
I think may be your memory card is the reason of your problem...
Use your cell without memory card....
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caronaakk said:
I think may be your memory card is the reason of your problem...
Use your cell without memory card....
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Old post I know, but the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have a SD card or any other kind of removable memory card. No Nexus device does.
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This a known issue. The solution is to root the phone (NRT) and run LagFix (fstream). Android 4.3 has fstream already built in.
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fstrim, not fstream. It means FS TRIM.
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Can you enable ART on G3?
prfraczek said:
Can you enable ART on G3?
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Yup just did it and its rebooting.
Its under developer's option > Select runtime system > Use ART
Edit: After booting up the system with ART, the camera app immediately crashed. Whatsapp worked fine. The phone also got really hot when android was switching over to ART from Dalvik. Going to switch back to Dalvik when the phone cools down.
phone got really hot WHEN switching or after switching?
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phone got really hot WHEN switching or after switching?
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Phone gets really hot while switching. It cooled down after it booted into art mode.
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Phone gets really hot while switching. It cooled down after it booted into art mode.
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Its doing a lot switching to art ....
Here are some of the major new features implemented by ART.
Ahead-of-time (AOT) compilation
ART introduces ahead-of-time (AOT) compilation, which can improve app performance. ART also has tighter install-time verification than Dalvik.
At install time, ART compiles apps using the on-device*dex2oat*tool. This utility accepts*DEX*files as input and generates a compiled app executable for the target device. The utility should be able to compile all valid DEX files without difficulty. However, some post-processing tools produce invalid files that may be tolerated by Dalvik but cannot be compiled by ART.
So it its compiling every app you have on the phone to start on time instead of the little lag you get when opening some big apps.....so in reality your phone won't have to work as hard using art after the first time....
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I wish i can benefit from those point you've pointed out. but unfortunately many of the LG doesn't work with ART and will crash when i attempt to load it up. for instance, the camera app stopped working after switching over to ART.
I think LG should fix the camera issue. I've had the same problem with G2 over year ago.
TA
That is the only thing the apps need to be updated to support art and soon 64bit
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I've switched to art and had no problem with any apps I have everything so far works as it should
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Phone seems faster with art but quadrant score is very low 13k Max
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Switched to ART from day one. Not had a single problem. Camera and everything else I've tried works as it should.
Can somebody check benchmarks both on art and dalvik? It's weird to get worse scores right?
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Switched to ART from day one. Not had a single problem. Camera and everything else I've tried works as it should.
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Same here...
Depends on some apps you use. Not all apps are switched to art yet. I use a few that don't work with art. It's still not supported
I tried switching to ART but the whole phone became extremely slow and laggy. Did any of you guys experience this? Should I leave it for a while to sort itself out?
Also, a lot of my installed apps disappeared from the launcher? Is this normal as the apps do not support Art or should they still show up?
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I tried switching to ART but the whole phone became extremely slow and laggy. Did any of you guys experience this? Should I leave it for a while to sort itself out?
Also, a lot of my installed apps disappeared from the launcher? Is this normal as the apps do not support Art or should they still show up?
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The first reboot after the switch from Dalvik to ART took about 10 minutes for me. It depends how many apps you have installed, as it needs to pre-compile all of them. After that I didn't notice anything being slower or missing.
In theory ART should make it faster to start applications and should help with battery life as well, as it doesn't need to compile the apps on the fly as you start them. That's the theory anyway. I had ART on on my Nexus 5 as well from the beginning and none of the apps I've used misbehaved.
Well, there is an option in Developer Options to select either the old, trusty Dalvik cache or the new, snappy Android Run Time. I'm kind of inclined to select ART, since it promises faster response time... but I wanted to check with you folks to see what YOU decided to use.
So which do you prefer? And why? And have you encountered any issues? I'm using the Developer Edition, rooted with deodexed stock ROM.
ART seems buggy right now. I'll use Dalvik until android L
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I tried the art because I was curious also. It was very sluggish, so I just switched it back and left it..
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ART works well for battery life..... But is really slow to boot up. So if you restart your phone often it will be painful.
My phone got blazing hot after I set it to ART. Set it back to Dalvik and took it apart for a few minutes to let it cool down.
Using ART and everything is great. But ever since I had an update for S Health my phone must optimize 83 apps and it takes a good 5 minutes until I see my lock screen. Haven't tried to use S Health yet but it had FC on me a few times when trying to open it. Should I wipe the app's data and then reboot? Other than that I have seen nothing but positives from using ART.
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Using ART and everything is great. But ever since I had an update for S Health my phone must optimize 83 apps and it takes a good 5 minutes until I see my lock screen. Haven't tried to use S Health yet but it had FC on me a few times when trying to open it. Should I wipe the app's data and then reboot? Other than that I have seen nothing but positives from using ART.
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As soon as i updated s health it no longer worked in ART. It's a bug. I had to Uninstall the updates and it worked again
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As soon as i updated s health it no longer worked in ART. It's a bug. I had to Uninstall the updates and it worked again
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I never set up the app either. I uninstalled, set it up and now im gonna try to update and see if it holds up. Is it a bug related to ART or just in general?
I completely forgot that 4.4 brought ART along with it. Just enabled and yes the initial boot took a while because it recompiled apps from JIT to AOT.
I havent noticed any major slow downs besides right after first boot since then it has been fine. I wonder what this will do for battery life.
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I never set up the app either. I uninstalled, set it up and now im gonna try to update and see if it holds up. Is it a bug related to ART or just in general?
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Oh idk I never bothered updating it in dalvik. Mine was set up and everything.
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Oh idk I never bothered updating it in dalvik. Mine was set up and everything.
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Thanks. I'll have to investigate. Are apps really that picky when it comes to what runtime is used?
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Thanks. I'll have to investigate. Are apps really that picky when it comes to what runtime is used?
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You'd have to ask someone more familiar with it. So far is only been s-health and the fact android upgrades everytime you restart that keeps me off ART. I imagine android 5 will implement ART better
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I ran with ART for a week or so things felt very snappy, but battery was worse for me anyways.
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