So I got my phone today and rooted it directly. When I was browsing through the apps, I saw it has an update but it didn't let me install it because the phone was rooted. So, I had to go back to stock rom with a kdz file wiping everything, which seems to be the latest rom right now. I'm thinking about if i should root or not right now. Will I have to wipe everything again when the phone gets another update? Are you all in this situation or do i not know something correctly?
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
If you want to use apps like g3 tweaksbox, titanium backup etc, you will need root! I think you can do so much more when your Phone is rooted, so i would root it immediately!
homer285 said:
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
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I also took an OTA for my F460S while rooted and it worked. My phone also is fine (it didn't die, crash or kill itself). When I get my next OTA I'll upload a video to show that it does work for some odd reason (only for a few people that I have seen). The benefits of rooting outweigh the drawbacks. If you root your phone, than you should be comfortable flashing a KDZ to restore it.
OTA updates often modify existing pre-installed apps, otherwise known as bloatware, so they check to be sure those targets are present and unmodified. If you have rooted but not deleted or removed or frozen any such apps, your system will pass that OTA test.
Some OTA's also look for su being installed, and hiding su can fool that, depending...
Sometimes the OTA is just mean altogether, for your protection.
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Ok, I have tried to follow a couple of root guides here in the forums, this one, both on Mac and Win7 (via Bootcamp). I get the device rooted but the, almost immediately, I get Android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly after the newest OTA. The error comes almost directly after the last update {Build number: IMM76D.I747UCALH9}.
I am interested in root to be able to install Google Now over S-Voice, Google Wallet over Isis and I would like to de-bloat the ROM. If I can also get CWM on there for occasional ROM backups that would be cool too. But I also want the newest update as it contains the one thing I really longed for in the stock TouchWiz ROM... Screen brightness from the Notifications menu.
Can anyone offer a point in the right direction for me?? I have rooted a Nexus before, but I tell ya, Non Nexus devices are a different ball game HAHA.
There are a number of ways to root this phone, and I don't know which one to recommend that would be easiest for you. However, you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing. It's guaranteed to kill your root, if not your phone as well. You either have to root the phone and then flash a rooted stock ROM with the latest OTA update, or update your (unrooted) phone to the latest OTA update, and then root it.
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There are a number of ways to root this phone, and I don't know which one to recommend that would be easiest for you. However, you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing. It's guaranteed to kill your root, if not your phone as well. You either have to root the phone and then flash a rooted stock ROM with the latest OTA update, or update your (unrooted) phone to the latest OTA update, and then root it.
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Or, root, use Voodoo Root Keeper to back up root, do ota, then use Root Keeper to restore root. But, not sure if that works 100% on LH9 (haven't tried it myself, so I'm not completely,100% going to say it works). It does work on lg1, as i did that myself.
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Or, root, use Voodoo Root Keeper to back up root, do ota, then use Root Keeper to restore root. But, not sure if that works 100% on LH9 (haven't tried it myself, so I'm not completely,100% going to say it works). It does work on lg1, as i did that myself.
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I can confirm it works on lh9, i am running it now and used voodoo to restore root.
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...you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing.
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I'm pretty sure I updated the stock unrooted rom before deciding to rooting, like I'm sure it was a good 24-48 hrs before I decided to root. Anyway, I guess I'll go back to the drawing board and do some research.
Thanks for post though!
Hello to anyone who decides to read this, and thank you for taking the time to haha.
I'm new here, and I'm relatively new to the whole rooting and modding scene, although I'm pretty confident in using Odin and various software involved in this, so, hopefully this won't be too complicated.
I have a question about my Note 10.1 2014. I have the WiFi model (P6000), which was bought in China since I was a student there for a year. Now I'm back in England. I flashed my ROM to a UK version so I could use Google Play services and Facebook integration, along with several other features and services which are blocked in China for various reasons. Now, my problem is, I have no real reason to have a rooted device other than for this. I also know I didn't need to root my device to flash the ROM, but I had some problems with my keyboard in China, but I have since solved them and have no use for the root. I want to take advantage of OTA updates since apparently my device should have one, but I can't because I'm rooted. Is it at all possible to unroot and lock the bootloader so I can update, without losing the ROM flash that is making my device run the UK firmware? If so, how would I go about doing this on my device? If it's not possible, is there are method in which I can update my firmware?
Sorry if I'm a little clueless about this stuff, and thanks in advance.
haofeng93 said:
Hello to anyone who decides to read this, and thank you for taking the time to haha.
I'm new here, and I'm relatively new to the whole rooting and modding scene, although I'm pretty confident in using Odin and various software involved in this, so, hopefully this won't be too complicated.
I have a question about my Note 10.1 2014. I have the WiFi model (P6000), which was bought in China since I was a student there for a year. Now I'm back in England. I flashed my ROM to a UK version so I could use Google Play services and Facebook integration, along with several other features and services which are blocked in China for various reasons. Now, my problem is, I have no real reason to have a rooted device other than for this. I also know I didn't need to root my device to flash the ROM, but I had some problems with my keyboard in China, but I have since solved them and have no use for the root. I want to take advantage of OTA updates since apparently my device should have one, but I can't because I'm rooted. Is it at all possible to unroot and lock the bootloader so I can update, without losing the ROM flash that is making my device run the UK firmware? If so, how would I go about doing this on my device? If it's not possible, is there are method in which I can update my firmware?
Sorry if I'm a little clueless about this stuff, and thanks in advance.
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What rom version you're running right now? Do you have a full UK factory firmware 4.4 available?
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What rom version you're running right now? Do you have a full UK factory firmware 4.4 available?
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Sorry for the late response, I was travelling.
I'm not entirely sure haha. Here's my device info, does this explain my situation?
As for the second question, I'm not entirely sure what you mean? I looked for the firmware for flashing but couldn't find a Android 4.4 version, despite my device telling me I have an available update and the internet saying my device should be updated to 4.4?
haofeng93 said:
Sorry for the late response, I was travelling.
I'm not entirely sure haha. Here's my device info, does this explain my situation?
As for the second question, I'm not entirely sure what you mean? I looked for the firmware for flashing but couldn't find a Android 4.4 version, despite my device telling me I have an available update and the internet saying my device should be updated to 4.4?
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OK, you have 4.3 and waiting for 4.4 OTA update. If you open your SuperSU app, then go to settings, scroll down to "Full unroot", select that and it should unroot. After done reboot your device and verify that the SuperSU is no longer in your app draw. I don't know if you modify anything else on your device like build.props or installed any rooted apps, if you do you need to remove them ALL, unfreeze any system apps using Titanium backup and revert build.props back to factory original, BEFORE YOU UNROOT. Once everything done you should be ok to take the OTA update. The OTA update will not erase your data so you should be fine there.
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OK, you have 4.3 and waiting for 4.4 OTA update. If you open your SuperSU app, then go to settings, scroll down to "Full unroot", select that and it should unroot. After done reboot your device and verify that the SuperSU is no longer in your app draw. I don't know if you modify anything else on your device like build.props or installed any rooted apps, if you do you need to remove them ALL, unfreeze any system apps using Titanium backup and revert build.props back to factory original, BEFORE YOU UNROOT. Once everything done you should be ok to take the OTA update. The OTA update will not erase your data so you should be fine there.
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Thanks for the speedy reply. I tried to option within SuperSU, but it seems to have been uninstalling for about 15 minutes with no result. I realised that I froze the stock Samsung keyboard since it overtakes the Google Chinese Pinyin Input when using a keyboard, and I work primarily in Chinese. Could this be the reason why the uninstall seems to have failed or got stuck? Not sure what to do now, oops.
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Thanks for the speedy reply. I tried to option within SuperSU, but it seems to have been uninstalling for about 15 minutes with no result. I realised that I froze the stock Samsung keyboard since it overtakes the Google Chinese Pinyin Input when using a keyboard, and I work primarily in Chinese. Could this be the reason why the uninstall seems to have failed or got stuck? Not sure what to do now, oops.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Yeah, I did read the instructions. It was just a moment of stupidity on my behalf, completely forgot I'd frozen the stock keyboard. I'll leave a little longer and then reboot.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Well, it seems to have gone a little weird. I have no root access anymore but SuperSU is still installed and my device status is still custom, so the OTA update won't run. I'm guessing I ought to reroot and properly clear out/unfreeze stuff, right? Sorry for being a pain haha...
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Well, it seems to have gone a little weird. I have no root access anymore but SuperSU is still installed and my device status is still custom, so the OTA update won't run. I'm guessing I ought to reroot and properly clear out/unfreeze stuff, right? Sorry for being a pain haha...
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You need to remove the SuperSu app by go to playstore search for Supersu then you should see the uninstall option. The OTA failed probably because it detected that you have modified the system. You need to think what you did to your system and revert back before try again. I would just use towelroot app and reroot then unfreeze any frozen apps, then uninstall then try again. If you can't remembered what you did and the OTA stills failing, then the next step is use Odin and flash factory firmware either 4.3 or 4.4. Remember to read my instructions before and ask if in doubt before taken any action. After you re-root, make sure you use Titanium to run a full backup of all your userapps. if you don't want to be bother, then just use Odin to flash either 4.3 or 4.4 but you need to re setup and re-download all your apps.
should I use auto update if I'm going to root and install custom rom later?
For me only, once I rooted I purposely used titanium backup to freeze "system updates".
I still get normal app updates, but don't want any system updates, that may break root, until my phone is unlocked.
Ok thanks, if I update can I still root after? After the update if I do a factory reset will the update be lost?
An update can remove root, and patch the methods that a particular root uses to take effect, depending on what it does. That is why I am avoiding updates until the phone is unlocked.
By the way, I can't post on dev forum so I'll take advantage of this topic here.
I already know that Purple Drake's root is working till the V10I update.
I rooted my G3 and disabled OTA's. If I enable them again, run the OTA update (V10I) I'll probably lose root, right?
But, if I apply PD root, will I get root again w/o losing all my data?
thanks!
What is the advantage of the update, should I even bother with it?
alfablac said:
By the way, I can't post on dev forum so I'll take advantage of this topic here.
I already know that Purple Drake's root is working till the V10I update.
I rooted my G3 and disabled OTA's. If I enable them again, run the OTA update (V10I) I'll probably lose root, right?
But, if I apply PD root, will I get root again w/o losing all my data?
thanks!
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Hey all, wondering if anyone has the update.zip file for the 10/30 Verizon update to Software Build: VS98511C
I have a buddy who's rooted (like me) but is receiving errors trying to install it so I'm hoping this will help. His phone is set up basically exactly the same as mine but only he has had the error and we've exhausted all possibly fixes
Thanks guys
Looking for the same.. Do we have a way to upgrade while keeping root?
I am also looking for update.zip for VS98511C.
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Looking for the same.. Do we have a way to upgrade while keeping root?
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If you can update via the ota, you will keep root. I did it just fine and it's been reported from others that they haven't had a problem either. My friend's phone is having some sort of unique error that we can't figure out :/
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If you can update via the ota, you will keep root. I did it just fine and it's been reported from others that they haven't had a problem either. My friend's phone is having some sort of unique error that we can't figure out :/
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So you kept root while updating? No need to re-root? Any tricks like using root keeper? I never took an ota while rooted so it makes me nervous.. I always manually updated with a rooted version. I have some stuff modified and frozen.. I guess un-doing all my mods and putting things back to stock shouldnt be too much of a pain so i can take the ota. Its always been easier to just flash something though. Maybe i'll wait a few days to see if theres a better way.
If you have twrp installed and take the ota you will boot into twrp until you do a twrp terminal hack or tot/kdz back to fresh stock.
I have twrp installed also. So how do we take the update then without going into a twrp boot loop?
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So you kept root while updating? No need to re-root? Any tricks like using root keeper? I never took an ota while rooted so it makes me nervous.. I always manually updated with a rooted version. I have some stuff modified and frozen.. I guess un-doing all my mods and putting things back to stock shouldnt be too much of a pain so i can take the ota. Its always been easier to just flash something though. Maybe i'll wait a few days to see if theres a better way.
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If you have twrp installed and take the ota you will boot into twrp until you do a twrp terminal hack or tot/kdz back to fresh stock.
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I have twrp installed also. So how do we take the update then without going into a twrp boot loop?
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I don't have twrp installed so I'm not sure
I didn't use any tricks or special apps or anything. I saw that others took the ota while rooted and it turned out fine so I just went for it. I figured there's really no scenario I could get into that I wasn't comfortable finding a fix for so I just lazily shrugged and pushed update LOL. I didn't need to worry though as everything updated fine and normal for me.
Again though, I don't have a custom recovery installed so idk how it'll work out with twrp :/
I didnt have a custom recovery..only root with xposed and some other mods. I defrosted anything that i froze.. put back any tinkered system files..uninstalled xposed. I took the ota system update.. Everything is working great and still have root access.
Recently picked up a Z Play and rooted it (unlocked bootloader, flashed chinese TWRP, flashed Phhh Superuser (and app/Magisk) and I've got everything set up just the way I want it. How do I prevent an OTA from coming through and ruining things or is that something I need to go checking for manually?
Also, when the N update is available, what would be the most advisable way of updating? I have only owned Nexus phones prior to this, so I'm not sure if I should expect Moto to post update factory images for me to flash like google always did the day they released updates, or if there will be some faster/better way?
You can use some sort of root app which has a freezing option, like Titanium Backup.
You have to freeze the "Motorola Updateservices" which is in shown in the attached pictures. "Auftauen" means unfreeze, because i already deactivated the updates service.
For the Nougat question, i would wait until somebody can proof that root is still working flawless before updating.
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Recently picked up a Z Play and rooted it (unlocked bootloader, flashed chinese TWRP, flashed Phhh Superuser (and app/Magisk) and I've got everything set up just the way I want it. How do I prevent an OTA from coming through and ruining things or is that something I need to go checking for manually?
Also, when the N update is available, what would be the most advisable way of updating? I have only owned Nexus phones prior to this, so I'm not sure if I should expect Moto to post update factory images for me to flash like google always did the day they released updates, or if there will be some faster/better way?
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Use a good filer like Solid classic, go privapp, find 3c OTA (try this 1st) or 3c checkin, change .apk to .apk.bak.
Reboot.
You do not have to fuss with permissions if you just rename.
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You can use some sort of root app which has a freezing option, like Titanium Backup.
You have to freeze the "Motorola Updateservices" which is in shown in the attached pictures. "Auftauen" means unfreeze, because i already deactivated the updates service.
For the Nougat question, i would wait until somebody can proof that root is still working flawless before updating.
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Thanks! I don't know why I didn't think of just checking for an updater service app to freeze.
Thanks again