should I use auto update if I'm going to root and install custom rom later?
For me only, once I rooted I purposely used titanium backup to freeze "system updates".
I still get normal app updates, but don't want any system updates, that may break root, until my phone is unlocked.
Ok thanks, if I update can I still root after? After the update if I do a factory reset will the update be lost?
An update can remove root, and patch the methods that a particular root uses to take effect, depending on what it does. That is why I am avoiding updates until the phone is unlocked.
By the way, I can't post on dev forum so I'll take advantage of this topic here.
I already know that Purple Drake's root is working till the V10I update.
I rooted my G3 and disabled OTA's. If I enable them again, run the OTA update (V10I) I'll probably lose root, right?
But, if I apply PD root, will I get root again w/o losing all my data?
thanks!
What is the advantage of the update, should I even bother with it?
alfablac said:
By the way, I can't post on dev forum so I'll take advantage of this topic here.
I already know that Purple Drake's root is working till the V10I update.
I rooted my G3 and disabled OTA's. If I enable them again, run the OTA update (V10I) I'll probably lose root, right?
But, if I apply PD root, will I get root again w/o losing all my data?
thanks!
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I have a question about this whole Towelroot thing. If I use it on this new att G3, and an update comes from att, would the phone still be able to accept the ota update?
I'm thinking yes, but just want to confirm.
If you root, you lose OTA updates.
Is there a video showing Towelroot for the G3? And then I think you have to install Superuser somehow?
It is all new to me but I would have to decide about not getting updates afterwards but I may cave and try it anyway if it is straightforward.
Well since this method does not mess with boot loader or recovery I figured you still could.
I'm also new to rooting the G3, but if I understand correctly to be able to receive OTA updates you need to unroot, either via Superuser or the LG PC Suite, both methods will not wipe your device. After updating just reroot again.
Bus Driver said:
I'm also new to rooting the G3, but if I understand correctly to be able to receive OTA updates you need to unroot, either via Superuser or the LG PC Suite, both methods will not wipe your device. After updating just reroot again.
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Assuming the root is not patched in the OTA
So I got my phone today and rooted it directly. When I was browsing through the apps, I saw it has an update but it didn't let me install it because the phone was rooted. So, I had to go back to stock rom with a kdz file wiping everything, which seems to be the latest rom right now. I'm thinking about if i should root or not right now. Will I have to wipe everything again when the phone gets another update? Are you all in this situation or do i not know something correctly?
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
If you want to use apps like g3 tweaksbox, titanium backup etc, you will need root! I think you can do so much more when your Phone is rooted, so i would root it immediately!
homer285 said:
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
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I also took an OTA for my F460S while rooted and it worked. My phone also is fine (it didn't die, crash or kill itself). When I get my next OTA I'll upload a video to show that it does work for some odd reason (only for a few people that I have seen). The benefits of rooting outweigh the drawbacks. If you root your phone, than you should be comfortable flashing a KDZ to restore it.
OTA updates often modify existing pre-installed apps, otherwise known as bloatware, so they check to be sure those targets are present and unmodified. If you have rooted but not deleted or removed or frozen any such apps, your system will pass that OTA test.
Some OTA's also look for su being installed, and hiding su can fool that, depending...
Sometimes the OTA is just mean altogether, for your protection.
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Hi,
I just got my LG yesterday, and I rooted it via PurpleDrake.
Today, everyone once in a while, a pop-up comes up about LG's Software Update, asking me to update.
So, my question is this, will updating cause issues because of rooting?
Also, if so, how can I get rid of this stupid pop up asking me to update? [I did turn off OTAs, so I'm assuming this is not one?]
Thanks.
I doubt it is. For an OTA update as rooting your device will stop that happening,most likely an app update or something to do with lg agreements.
Ruttix said:
Hi,
I just got my LG yesterday, and I rooted it via PurpleDrake.
Today, everyone once in a while, a pop-up comes up about LG's Software Update, asking me to update.
So, my question is this, will updating cause issues because of rooting?
Also, if so, how can I get rid of this stupid pop up asking me to update? [I did turn off OTAs, so I'm assuming this is not one?]
Thanks.
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A software update can still attempt to install if you have not disabled OTA updates from your carrier somehow. Since you are rooted you should freeze the System updates process so it will not attempt to install the update and potentially remove root, or break something during the OTA install. This is not disabled automatically by just rooting, although some methods during root may also disable updates. I am not familiar enough with PurpleDrake to say if it does this or not. I do know that with IORoot you will still need to manually freeze the system update process.
Hello guys,
I'm sorry I created a new thread to ask some questions but nobody responded when I asked on an existing thread. Also, I think you should keep this thread for new users who what to know everything about rooting their LG G3.
So, my questions are the following:
I just bought the LG G3 (D855, runs Lollipop out of the box) and I want to root to it (I've rooted many devices before) but will I be able to receive OTA updates? Does LG has any security feature like Samsung's Knox that is triggered by the rooting process and marks my device? Is there any danger in general?
If later on I decide to flash TWRP and custom ROMs will I have to unlock the bootloader?
Thank you for your time, and again, sorry for the new tread.
I am not sure about the Lollipop version but when I was running KitKat I was notified of OTA updates but when I've tried to run it I got a pop up that update couldn't be applied because my phone was rooted. had to get rid of root than I could update it.
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I am not sure about the Lollipop version but when I was running KitKat I was notified of OTA updates but when I've tried to run it I got a pop up that update couldn't be applied because my phone was rooted. had to get rid of root than I could update it.
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From what I heard a simple unroot from SuperSu app was not even enough, because the stock fw has a counter that is incremented in case you root, and therefore even if you remove root the counter will still prevent you from applying the OTA.
tylerdurden83 said:
From what I heard a simple unroot from SuperSu app was not even enough, because the stock fw has a counter that is incremented in case you root, and therefore even if you remove root the counter will still prevent you from applying the OTA.
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I've flashed a stock firmware and updated. There may have been a simpler way, but I am not an expert.
Again I am not sure if things got easier or harder with Lollipop but to be very honest in the last few firmware updates I did not see anything life changing from LG that would worth the hassle. I think being rooted is much more valuable than the latest firmware updates were.
For me personally anyways
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From what I heard a simple unroot from SuperSu app was not even enough, because the stock fw has a counter that is incremented in case you root, and therefore even if you remove root the counter will still prevent you from applying the OTA.
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Thank you guys for the answers! :good:
So, LG indeed has a "security" feature that messes with your device. Can someone confirm it?
If the counter is software can't we alter/erase it? Or is it hw-based like Samsung's Knox Warranty Void? If it is hw-based we cannot do something.
hey, someone could have warned that the OTA updates don't work anymore after rooting the phone -.-... first with somehow reverted recovery (don't know how it happened) it failed, and now with TWRP it doen't do anything and sits idle in recovery mode, with no alarm clock... -.-
also I'm used to have a all-in-one-thread with links to the latest firmwares etc, I can't find this here.
so, what's the latest firmware, are there differential patches I can install with TWRP or only the >1GB full images?
I'm on version 10B or so, something with 'b'. from june.
Only solution is to flash v10b "stock" and lose root (by that you'll be able to Ota update), or the newer version (using LG flash tool). Note that you'll lose all date on your phone.
Edit:
By flash I meant using LG flash tool. (for which version you'll like to install.)
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*Of course* OTA updates won't work with root...what else could you have been thinking??
You actually have been warned if you had read the root thread...
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In the past, not all rooting automatically meant that OTA updates were stopped. This was an optional step you could take. Early on, when a phone is first released, updates from the provider should be expected - this is something why I might hold off on rooting ASAP. As the life cycle of the phone starts to wear on, less updates (or no more updates) so less of a concern. There was/is an app I use to use call OTA Root Keeper that allowed one to not turn off the OTA updates - as some are valuable like the coming Stagefright patches we should expect - and get the OTA updates and then also keep root. Taking an OTA update could mean you loose root even with OTA Root Keeper if part of the update is closing an exploit. That was always a risk. But for me, having updated proper software often outweighed the risk with losing root and in fact, OTA Root Keeper always worked for me so I never lost root on my phones or tablets. But as we know, phone makers and providers hate root so they work to close every exploit and I suspect that would be why shutting off OTA updates is part of the current root tool/method you refer to. Most are cool with shutting off OTA updates.
For example, in this current root method it clearly says "Now that you're rooted, MAKE SURE YOU DISABLE OTA UPDATES, if you accidentally take an OTA, you might not be able to roll back or fix it." so it looks as if in this case OTA updates are NOT shut off and you have to manually take that step if you want to.
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*Of course* OTA updates won't work with root...what else could you have been thinking??
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this is not true.. this is exploit specific
the bootload is unlocked, therefore we have full access anyway, it's totally impossible to deny root to a phone with open bootloader.
therefore it should be doable to unroot, revert recovery back to stock, to ota, and do it all again. but it's annoying.
I tried to flash the OTA update (it's in /cache/xxxota/something), after renaming it to .zip and .img, but it didn't work.
any other way to simply extract the files from the OTA?
I was have root and update software via lg bridge. Now i dont have root but i dont need it till we have twrp and custom rom/s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3175493
Try this one
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