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Ridiculously slow speeds and 3G does not stay connected, please help.

My 3g does not stay connected, if I'm lucky it will connect for only a little bit but drop back out. Is this because where I'm located. I don't think it should be this bad. Edge is the only thing that stays connected without a problem. I should note I did get a message from T-Mobile saying I did go over my limit, but shouldn't the 3g still stay connect, but just be slower?
I'm located in Fort Myers, FL.
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3G When it connects
I don't get it...

Can anyone help?

Was this working fine before you went over your quota? If so I suspect it's a result of the throttling.

Once you go over your 5gb(?) cap, you're throttled to EDGE only for the rest of the month. When your billing cycle ends and the new one begins, you're back to 3G and your data pool is reset.
So to answer your question, no, you don't just get "slower" 3G because you went over, you just get EDGE. Which is about fast enough to do weak web browsing and keep your E-mail synced.
This is how T-Mobile gets away with calling their data plans "unlimited". Because you only get 3G up to 5gb (think it used to be 10gb, not sure), then you get EDGE for the rest. You can use as much EDGE as you want, but its just slow.

martonikaj said:
Once you go over your 5gb(?) cap, you're throttled to EDGE only for the rest of the month. When your billing cycle ends and the new one begins, you're back to 3G and your data pool is reset.
So to answer your question, no, you don't just get "slower" 3G because you went over, you just get EDGE. Which is about fast enough to do weak web browsing and keep your E-mail synced.
This is how T-Mobile gets away with calling their data plans "unlimited". Because you only get 3G up to 5gb (think it used to be 10gb, not sure), then you get EDGE for the rest. You can use as much EDGE as you want, but its just slow.
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I thought that's what it was but just wanted to make sure, what a rip.
A couple months ago I thought I seen a post about unlimited data or a hack that they can't throttle you. Is that still on here or even doable?

ballashoes said:
I thought that's what it was but just wanted to make sure, what a rip.
A couple months ago I thought I seen a post about unlimited data or a hack that they can't throttle you. Is that still on here or even doable?
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Not really a "rip". I prefer it this way, for the following reasons
1) they're pretty relaxed on letting people tether for free, which means if you just keep it around 5gb, you dont need to pay to 'unlock' tethering
2) NO overage fees. Continue to use ur phone on EDGE and get use out of it even when you hit the soft cap.
3) 5GB is a lot of data. AT&T customers only see 2GB per month
Yes there was a thread or two about it, but no one really had a sure-fire way around it AFAIK.
That's all. Glad you confirmed your suspicions.

[Q] What's the most data you've used in one billing cycle?

What's the most data you've used in a cycle, and has anyone heard a peep from Verizon? My cycle starts on the 26th and I just cross the 10GB mark. Just curious, and thanks for your response.

Thanks for the reply, I'm wondering if at some point high usage will raise an eyebrow from Verizon. I mean, I'll probably break 15GB this month.

I've never gone over 1GB lol. I'm almost always around Wi-Fi. Most its been was like maybe 600MB.
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Far from my maximum, but I'd say it's about average. When I'm not downloading ROM's over 3G.
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I use around 18 every month... Lol
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Since I have internet at home I dont go over 4Gb....

Fergusonfox7 said:
I use around 18 every month... Lol
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18 gigs? See, now that's what I'm talking about. I'll get close to that this month. Once we get internet set up I won't use so much, or maybe I'll just get an LTE phone and run everthing off that.

Wow I feel so much better now Thanks! Wifi at my house is so flaky I've started tethering my phone, but I stopped since I was worried about using too much data. I'm only at about 4 gb with a week and a half left on my billing cycle. Guess I don't have to worry

At school, I'm always on 3g, because the wifi is flaky. So I usually use 3 gbs. At home, I'll stay on wifi and use about a gig for when I'm out and about.
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3GB on average for me never about 3.5GB

setexascustoms said:
Thanks for the reply, I'm wondering if at some point high usage will raise an eyebrow from Verizon. I mean, I'll probably break 15GB this month.
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Verizon has openly stated that they (will/have already) cap the top 5% of data users. You *might* fall into that category or maybe will soon.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379296,00.asp
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oops I mean throttle, not cap
Also it looks they will just be putting your data on lower priority. So if there's not too much 3G data demand in your area, you'll stream just as quickly.

POQbum said:
Verizon has openly stated that they (will/have already) cap the top 5% of data users. You *might* fall into that category or maybe will soon.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379296,00.asp
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Thanks for the info, no cap yet. If they do I'll be sure to let y'all know.

My highest was like august last year....13.6 gigs, the same month I rooted it lol
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I rarely go over 500MB, but I usually only read news on 3G. I use wi-fi every chance I get, too, though.

Well I'm well over 20 gigs and my cycle ends on the 26th, I'll let y'all know how it turns out. Do you realize if I was on the tiered plan that's supposed to be implemented on July 7th that'd be over $200 worth of data? That's rediculous...

I'm looking at 2.4GB and i'm only in day 3 of my cycle lol
Gotta love Netflix at work

The highest I believe I've gone is ~800-900MB. I think I average ~500MB per month. I'm around wifi a lot and I frequently turn my data off when I'm not using my phone.

setexascustoms said:
Well I'm well over 20 gigs and my cycle ends on the 26th, I'll let y'all know how it turns out. Do you realize if I was on the tiered plan that's supposed to be implemented on July 7th that'd be over $200 worth of data? That's rediculous...
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yah but since you have unlimited data you can keep that. verizon is goning to let you grandfather it.

werdna87 said:
yah but since you have unlimited data you can keep that. verizon is goning to let you grandfather it.
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I know, I'm just using that as an example. The pricing is ridiculous. I'm actually giving my wife the Inc and getting a Thunderbolt so we'll have two grandfathered unlimited plans. And we have LTE here, wonder how much data I'll use then.
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I was around 16GB last month. I've only had a data plan for a few months now...the Dinc being my first smartphone. I'll be honest, I'm on a budget and I always get good 3G in my apartment (usually reach around 1Mbps, which is acceptable to me), so I dropped my $40/mo AT&T DSL in favor of using my phone as my main internet via tethering, and I haven't looked back. So glad I'm grandfathered with my unlimited data, but I'm totally prepared if my plans fall through and I have to go back to DSL...I figure it's just a matter of time.

[Verizon] something is eating my data...

i have been trying to figure what could possibly be eating my data each few minutes...
so far the only ideas i had was
1) facebook notifications - turned them off today.
2) i am using go weather widget it had autoupdating i turned it off like 3 days
ago.
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my billing cycle is since the "Feb 5 " and i am at 400 MB
i did few speedtests and tested out hotspot but those 0.01 so many times? no idea!
Texts (MMS) are not suppose to count as internet data are they? atleast not on att

Hard to tell but seems like most of it is trying every 30 minutes or so. You got anything synced in that interval?
I'd remove some widgets that have the slightest potential and start uninstalling apps you don't need.

What do usage stats on your phone look like in settings-data usage?

Off topic, but I shudder at the sight of 2gb of metered data...

mwalt2 said:
What do usage stats on your phone look like in settings-data usage?
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take a look at the attachment i included
i dont really use that much that would use my background data...
im attaching another one showing my internet apps (other apps are like sirius xm or pandora but that i know when i use it)

The .01 is from using 40mb on speedtest -___-
patt2k said:
i have been trying to figure what could possibly be eating my data each few minutes...
so far the only ideas i had was
1) facebook notifications - turned them off today.
2) i am using go weather widget it had autoupdating i turned it off like 3 days
ago.
my billing cycle is since the "Feb 5 " and i am at 400 MB
i did few speedtests and tested out hotspot but those 0.01 so many times? no idea!
Texts (MMS) are not suppose to count as internet data are they? atleast not on att
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jumaaneface said:
The .01 is from using 40mb on speedtest -___-
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looks kind of weaird if you ask me lol
it would be much easier to show 40 mb not 0.01 321321312 times

ericshmerick said:
Off topic, but I shudder at the sight of 2gb of metered data...
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Me too. After the first billing cycle where I kissed my 4GB limit, I just went ahead and added on the 10GB plan instead. Screw it, not worth the hassle of worrying about it...and I'm a rouge tetherer.

jumaaneface said:
The .01 is from using 40mb on speedtest -___-
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Explain why you think that. That's a huge time frame for speed test to use 40mb. It would poll it at once. Checking my usage details on Verizon, I don't seem to have the same usage pattern as he does and I used speedtest yesterday morning.

I know this is completely off topic, but op, switch to the 4gb plan now since the double data promotion is back!
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WillEat4F00d said:
I know this is completely off topic, but op, switch to the 4gb plan now since the double data promotion is back!
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wait no way? my friend got the 4gb data pack i dont see it on verizons website :/
link me please
EDIT: upgraded thank you!!!!!!!!

This phone comes with data tracking in the settings will tell you which apps use how much foreground and background data..yo should be able to not allow background data or set it to only allow on wifi
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WillEat4F00d said:
I know this is completely off topic, but op, switch to the 4gb plan now since the double data promotion is back!
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I was told that was for new activations.
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[Q] LTE speed drop

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that their LTE transfer speed drops after 3-4 seconds of high speed bursting.
I can consistently see this in the speedtest.net app, and also in large google market downloads.
The problem seems to kick in when the transfer speed goes over >~24mbps, and then it will just suddenly drop right down to pretty much 0, before slowly continuing at a much reduced speed. Same happens with the upload speed, but it seems to kick in around ~20mbps or less.
I've seen this at various places around the Bay Area in CA, so its not related to any local radio towers :-/
I hope my radio is not a lemon.. I first saw this when the phone was straight out the box, but I just shrugged it off. But its persistently there... (and I've 0x1'd my know now..)

Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
Sent from my Note 3

benefit14snake said:
Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
Sent from my Note 3
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Thanks, I will try the band idea.
I've asked the question on Tmobile's support forms, the issue may be QoS related, but who knows.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/56049
I have an ATT/straighttalk SIM coming on Monday to do some additional tests with.

benefit14snake said:
Check out some T-Mobile specific forums for your answer. I don't think it's your phone. Try setting your phone for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band to see if that is different.
It's believed that tmobile is still working on their tiered QoS. If you have unlimited you get bumped, for now.
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How do we do this? And any issues if you do?

i get this issue as well. one thing i have noticed is that when you download a large app (50+ megs, which is actually a small app..) it will throttle me to less than 500 kbps after the first 20 seconds or 50-60 megs of progress. it stays there and never speeds back up.. i have cancelled many 100+ mb apps during downloading because they were literally constantly slowing down to the point where i didn't think they'd even finish until i hit my home wifi point. it does this on stock rom, darthstalker rom, saber kernel, compulsion kernel, stock kernel... i don't think it's the device, i think it's the service. going to keep on testing different combinations and see if i can find a fix irregardless. slow and insanely inconsistent data speeds are gonna make me go back too ATT even though i just switched to T-Mobile 2 days ago. a reliable connection is worth the extra $40/month to me.
*it's also worth noting, since i activated the TMo service yesterday, i haven't once seen more than two bars of service although i am in an area that is not largely populated and vastly surrounded by "great connection" area on T-Mobile:s page.

teknowiz23 said:
slow and insanely inconsistent data speeds are gonna make me go back too ATT even though i just switched to T-Mobile 2 days ago. a reliable connection is worth the extra $40/month to me.
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Are you on the 5GB/$30 prepaid plan? I wonder if the throttling is an unofficial policy on the prepaid plans.

Nope, on the normal plan that was supposed to take the place of the contracts. I get a bill at the end of the cycle like I did with att. Still happening. Its like anything I download hits a throttle after the first 200 megs. Lte speeds of 3-6 megs per sec, then bam... Sub 1 meg per sec the rest of the download. Even if there's 1gb+ left to go.
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I've been discussing this same problem over on HowardForums forums for a while: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1814258-Video-Streaming-being-throttled?p=15278529
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Recently, I've personally concluded that it has to do with T-Mobile working on towers in my area. There was a period of about a week or so where I was experiencing odd performance on both HSPA+ and LTE, where speeds will be fantastic for about 3-5 seconds, before dropping WAY down. Things have greatly improved recently. I did several tests the other day in several locations, and only one tower in particular resulted in the odd speeds in multiple tests. The next day, things were perfect. Then again, they recently went from 5x5 LTE to 10x10, so that could've had something to do with it.
My recommendation is to wait it out.
FYI: I'm on the $30/mo. prepaid plan (5GB @ high-seed, unlimited @ 2G).

https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/405454376916897797
"Very small # customers saw slower data recently and only when downloading very large files. Minor software issue; Fix going in place today"
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"Very small # customers saw slower data recently and only when downloading very large files. Minor software issue; Fix going in place today"

Can some one explain what tmobile is doing?

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Torrent downloaders will be throttled. VPN or TOR should combat that

halftonehero said:
Torrent downloaders will be throttled. VPN or TOR should combat that
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Thanks dude for clarifying that

Technically you'll still have unlimited data, just at a much slower speed.

You would be surprised how many company s are doing this already. There are actually many cable company's that are doing this also. This is unfair for those that use peer-to-peer networking to transfer non illegal stuff.

Honestly t-mobile is the only company that offers truly I unlimited at a reasonable price. Att for 2 lines I would have to pay 60 and he 5gb of data to SPLIT between the 2 lines.
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MajorTux said:
You would be surprised how many company s are doing this already. There are actually many cable company's that are doing this also. This is unfair for those that use peer-to-peer networking to transfer non illegal stuff.
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I can honestly say, I've never met anyone who uses torrents for legal stuff.
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mrbkkt1 said:
I can honestly say, I've never met anyone who uses torrents for legal stuff.
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I use them to download Linux distros. You would be surprised how many artist and movies actually release there work on bit torrent sites for free.
https://bundles.bittorrent.com/#!/
https://www.jamendo.com/en/welcome
http://linuxtracker.org/
https://archive.org/details/bittorrent
http://www.mininova.org/featured/cat/
..
I could go on.
A lot of movie studios, record company, and independent artist will do this to hype there movie or even get people to donate to them and lets the consumer pay what they want for the movie. A good example of this would be a small mom and pop store may practically give things away to get people in the door and away from the big business. So in Turn if people can down load the torrents the company will not make money.....But the fact is the portion of people that are doing this is pretty small, but some people still do it. Again just like the amount of people that will shop at a mom and pop store opposed to Walmart,Target,Whole Foods,Ex...

I just ditched att after 6 years because they were throttling my data at 5gs. I unlocked the sim, bought a tmo sim for $10.75 and now I pay 80per month for unlimited data, phone, tx, with zero throttling and no contract. I get extremely fast 20-30 mbps download speeds and have ditched the $45 per month att wifi. I am at almost 100gs this month by running my n3, laptop, and kids ipads. I do not go to torrent download sites at all, am I in jeopardy of being throttled by tmo ???

yep; if you continue to use 100 gigs per month, eventually you will be throttled..

XiPhoneUzer, I did the exact same. I paid more than necessary for YEARS to hold on to my "Grandfathered Unlimited Plan" despite generally using wifi and using (sometimes well) under 2 gigs of mobile data every month for the prior year (not to mention crippled, locked-down bootloader phones). It was the "just in case" mentality, ya know? Well, about a year ago now, "just in case happened"... I lost power in my apartment for like a week (obviously no modem / router / computers...) Man, I sure was glad I held on to that Unlimited plan! Immediately started watching some Netflix and... taking care of business (such as downloading a couple new Linux ISOs). Well, I hit 5 gigs mobile data that night. Got a warning message at like 4990 MB, then 5 mins later, my connection was immediately throtled down to completely "can't load a webpage" unusable. ATT reps were super helpful, like, "Man, that's too bad." and "At least you only have to wait until next Wednesday." Wouldn't even "let" me pay for more data with a usable connection! ... I no longer make use of their services.
On topic... my concern is: Is this going affect people who use clearly legitimate apps / services like BT Sync? That is, am I going to need to keep my KeePass database synced across devices via USB otg every time I update it on my computer, or some multi-step LAN upload? No, I'm not cool with keeping that kind of thing on GDrive or whatever.

You guys need to research and chill. They are only interested in the very top downloaders. These are people moving Terrabytes/month. Your 100GB is probably not even on the radar. They are also only applying the throttle to those users when the network is crowded and those people are causing problems for other users on the network. This is not the time to freak out about it. Watch, and call them on their BS, should it be called for, but for now, it's really not. This isn't a comcast style "kill all connections that look like bittorrent" deal.
To give some idea of scale, they claimed that they were contacting 20 users for this first time. Seems quite reasonable, right now. If they start to get bad, they have to know they will be called out on it. Save the rage, we might need it later.