My 3g does not stay connected, if I'm lucky it will connect for only a little bit but drop back out. Is this because where I'm located. I don't think it should be this bad. Edge is the only thing that stays connected without a problem. I should note I did get a message from T-Mobile saying I did go over my limit, but shouldn't the 3g still stay connect, but just be slower?
I'm located in Fort Myers, FL.
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3G When it connects
I don't get it...
Can anyone help?
Was this working fine before you went over your quota? If so I suspect it's a result of the throttling.
Once you go over your 5gb(?) cap, you're throttled to EDGE only for the rest of the month. When your billing cycle ends and the new one begins, you're back to 3G and your data pool is reset.
So to answer your question, no, you don't just get "slower" 3G because you went over, you just get EDGE. Which is about fast enough to do weak web browsing and keep your E-mail synced.
This is how T-Mobile gets away with calling their data plans "unlimited". Because you only get 3G up to 5gb (think it used to be 10gb, not sure), then you get EDGE for the rest. You can use as much EDGE as you want, but its just slow.
martonikaj said:
Once you go over your 5gb(?) cap, you're throttled to EDGE only for the rest of the month. When your billing cycle ends and the new one begins, you're back to 3G and your data pool is reset.
So to answer your question, no, you don't just get "slower" 3G because you went over, you just get EDGE. Which is about fast enough to do weak web browsing and keep your E-mail synced.
This is how T-Mobile gets away with calling their data plans "unlimited". Because you only get 3G up to 5gb (think it used to be 10gb, not sure), then you get EDGE for the rest. You can use as much EDGE as you want, but its just slow.
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I thought that's what it was but just wanted to make sure, what a rip.
A couple months ago I thought I seen a post about unlimited data or a hack that they can't throttle you. Is that still on here or even doable?
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I thought that's what it was but just wanted to make sure, what a rip.
A couple months ago I thought I seen a post about unlimited data or a hack that they can't throttle you. Is that still on here or even doable?
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Not really a "rip". I prefer it this way, for the following reasons
1) they're pretty relaxed on letting people tether for free, which means if you just keep it around 5gb, you dont need to pay to 'unlock' tethering
2) NO overage fees. Continue to use ur phone on EDGE and get use out of it even when you hit the soft cap.
3) 5GB is a lot of data. AT&T customers only see 2GB per month
Yes there was a thread or two about it, but no one really had a sure-fire way around it AFAIK.
That's all. Glad you confirmed your suspicions.
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Hi, I've been having issues with my 3G speeds since the 4.24 update.
I'm on the stock rooted rom ...
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I'm new to Sprint and just thought that 3G was that slow, but I cannot get speedtest to even complete 60% of the time.
Things to check if you haven't.
Update radios to latest versions (Can be found in development section)
Be sure you updated your PROFILE and/or PRL (though I dont think PRL will fix anything unless you are roaming).
How long has this been going on? Is it possible that Sprint is having network difficulties?
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Ur internet shouldn't be that slow,,,,, but what area do u live in ,,, please leave a zip and the reason is that sprint is changing networks up a putting I den,3g,4g in one cell site and it will give a range of signal from 800mhz to 4.3ghz from one sit and they have 80,000
Cell sites
yestrue do check the updates or do a ##72786#,,,,, enter msl,,,,tap menu,,,,,select reset
this is not a factory reset. It is a scrtn ( service code return to new) and it erases the programming and does the hands free
I'm on 680 PRL. and everything is up to date on the phone according to all the update buttons(firmware/prl/htc)
this is a brand new phone and I have tested it in 5 different locations around northwest Houston and it is always crawling. when I switch 4G on I'm good to go, but 3G takes forever to get google.com to load even on full bars.
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I'm on 680 PRL. and everything is up to date on the phone according to all the update buttons(firmware/prl/htc)
this is a brand new phone and I have tested it in 5 different locations around northwest Houston and it is always crawling. when I switch 4G on I'm good to go, but 3G takes forever to get google.com to load even on full bars.
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exactly as reddragon said, everything is the latest as far as rom, radios, prl, even the latest hboot, which i know has nothing to do with it, but as soon as everything is updated i try to keep up with it.
the 4g is awesome when i'm on the 11th floor in midtown manhattan full blast i get close to fiber optic speed when i tether... but maybe it's just the area i work in but it has severely diminished since i got the phone. ongoing i want to say it's been about 3 weeks now that my 3G has been this bad.
I will try that reset and see if it gets better and post the results. Thanks for the contributions!
Ok, so here's the update:
I did ##72786#
Entered MSL
Pressed Menu
Reset...
and it went to .10Mbps d/l and .02Mbps u/l
tried retesting my speed when I got home and got 0.03 d/l and 0.02 u/l with a 990ms ping.
When I had did the 3G boost hack before the update, things were fine, it wasn't all that great but it was at least the speed of dial up.
dragoniusFUZE said:
exactly as reddragon said, everything is the latest as far as rom, radios, prl, even the latest hboot, which i know has nothing to do with it, but as soon as everything is updated i try to keep up with it.
the 4g is awesome when i'm on the 11th floor in midtown manhattan full blast i get close to fiber optic speed when i tether... but maybe it's just the area i work in but it has severely diminished since i got the phone. ongoing i want to sayhouston is it's been about 3 weeks now that my 3G has been this bad.
I will try that reset and see if it gets better and post the results. Thanks for the contributions!
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Houston is down due to the upgrade I spoke of in earlier quotes <<< direct information
Can't tell of source but it is true and so chi town and few other areas next is new York
So, for the majority of last month I recall having absolute **** speeds on 3G ranging from 20 to 70 Kbps occasionally reaching to something like 120Kbps. This is in my normal coverage area where I can often get from 1100 to 1800 Kbps. I had thought that I might be getting throttled since I used a total of like 14GB of 3G last month. The new billing cycle started today and I'm still getting the same horrid speeds. What gives? I've already reflashed my ROM and modem without any benefit. Anyone else know what could be going on?
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Sprint is the problem. LOL I'm not sure have you tried contacting Sprint? I'm jelly that you can even achieve 1200kbps.
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Hahahahahahaha I remember those days. Man that's how bad sprints service is. That's why I left them and went with Verizon.
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Seriously? Who would stay with a carrier that would take 5 minutes just to load a picture? I'll be sure to call them later. For some reason that never crossed my mind.
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I tried Sprint briefly years ago, sounds like they haven't improved much since then.
if not for the LTE in my area (san antonio) sprint would be unusable.
It sounds like 1X data speeds and not 3G, some of the stock roms display a 3G icon even when connected to 1X data. If you use the speedtest app
it will show a graph of the results, if the speed graph looks like it hits a ceiling around 100k,.it is probably connected to 1X data.
If you see multiple spikes in the graph well above 100k, it is probably a crappy connection/signal.
Same here. I'm on Virgin Mobile, but it's apart of Sprint too. It's been crappy for the past week.
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I'm on Sprint. Get about 500 to 1000kbits on 3G in my area. I understand they're not great in all areas, but the price is good.
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So. Uh. If that isn't the best speed test you've ever seen? I think Jellybro has the 1x indicator fix and the normal upload speeds seem to indicate I'm on 3G. Sprint dude just said to take it to a store. I guess I'll do that. Unless going back to complete stock might fox something. I'll try that next.
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So. Uh. If that isn't the best speed test you've ever seen? I think Jellybro has the 1x indicator fix and the normal upload speeds seem to indicate I'm on 3G. Sprint dude just said to take it to a store. I guess I'll do that. Unless going back to complete stock might fox something. I'll try that next.
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Wow!!!
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Hi there,
I have a rooted Z1 Compact (used the UK firmware) on T-Mobile network, and I've just payed for a 4G data plan and also replaced my age-old SIM card with a 4G-capable one.
However, I still cannot register to the 4G network so I only have 3G. Could this be because I'm in Central Europe (Hungary, to be exact) so I should flash the CE ftf because it won't work with the UK one?
Thanks,
Ben
Check your access point settings and make sure you have 4G coverage.
Shouldn't be a matter of UK or CE firmware.
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Check your access point settings and make sure you have 4G coverage.
Shouldn't be a matter of UK or CE firmware.
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I've checked my settings and everything seems to be in order, and I'm in the capital which is covered by T-Mobile.
Interestingly though, I've flashed the CE firmware (without wiping) last weekend and now it seems to register on the 4G network, so it seems that my problem is solved, although I've yet to see the 4G sign when I'm on mobile data.
It might be a case of your data plan monthly date not being reached. Here in France, changes to a subscription are in effect once one reaches the day in the month on which the contract was started (if you started your contract on the 5th of the month, then any subsequent changes will be put into effect on that day).
My own Z1c has yet to show a 4g symbol, but my contract renews with the 4g option on the 25th... Wait and see.
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So today I'm on the renewal day of my monthly contract, and tadaaaaa ! 4g now showing on the phone.
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This is how it should look like:
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I guess I'll have to wait a bit more.
The whole story is this: I went over my monthly data limit a day or two before I posted this thread, so my net became crazy slow. I thought, might as well look at the mobile data plans again, see if they might have a better option.
Turns out they do have a 4G data plan with 1Gb transfer per month, for just a bit more than what I've paid for my plan before.
So I've switched my plan, and then I realised that my SIM card is probably not capable of 4G because it's basically from the past century.
Now, I have a brand new 4G-capable SIM card, and a 4G data plan that was supposedly activated on the spot, i.e. about a week ago. Still, when I try to connect to the 4G network, this is the message I get:
And it reverts back to the 3G connection.
Jaacckk1992 said:
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You need to check your access point setting and it doesn't matter you have UK firmware or
EC firmware and one more thing there should be 4G coverage then you have to register for 4 g service
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Unfortunately that seems to be a dead-end as well. As far as I can tell it should be internet.telekom, and it is.
Yeah I probably just have to wait til the original plan expires or something. I'll call them if it's still the same after next week. Thanks for the help and enjoy your device
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Hello, I'm currently shopping mobile carriers and checking their coverage and it seems like Sprint might be an option.
According to their coverage map they FINALLY have 4g lte in my area. I'm really considering changing some things up financially to save a little bit more and was wondering if rooting would get me around Sprints tethering. What I'd like to do is cancel my cable internet and just utilize my mobile connection. Thanks
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Hello, I'm currently shopping mobile carriers and checking their coverage and it seems like Sprint might be an option.
According to their coverage map they FINALLY have 4g lte in my area. I'm really considering changing some things up financially to save a little bit more and was wondering if rooting would get me around Sprints tethering. What I'd like to do is cancel my cable internet and just utilize my mobile connection. Thanks
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I am rooted on stock firmware there was and app to remove sprints lock on "Wifi Hotspot" I can connect devices to it.
is it possible to use your phone as home internet service, sure. Yon can pay the $30/mn for the hotspot service, which I think it limited to 5GB/mn.
If rooted, you can use some app called GalaxyTools to unlock the native hotspot. Another app is WiFi Tether Router and cost just over $3; it is actively maintained. I personally use this.
If not rooted, there are apps you can use, but require apps to be installed on your clients and also cost a little money.
What you may want to do before jumping ship, check how the service is working in your area. Also, the bandwidth speeds. Just before it's 4G, doesn't mean the speeds are great compared to others. Where I live, I've had LTE for over two years. I only get 5mbs down, and 1mbs up. On my phone, and tether to a laptop or tablet, it works fine. For my needs at work, it would be an outright failure; never mind that 4G connection is a bit inconsistent.
Plus, Sprint is going to be looking for this kind of bandwidth sucking. It is true they give you unlimited data. BUT they also say they will throttle is the network is congested and you're a heavy data user. Sprint says they'll sent a text or something to warm you to give you an opportunity to change your behavior before throttling.
I know I'm a heavy data user, but I don't think I'm in heavy data usage area, so I can't comment on throttling other than it's possible to get. I use usually around 115 to 125GB of data per month on Sprint. My home internet is closer to 400GB per month. I think Sprint might say something if I was using 500GB of data on their service.
I'm not trying to say it won't work for you and your needs. I''m just suggesting to do some more research and get some information to make a better informed decision.
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Hello, I'm currently shopping mobile carriers and checking their coverage and it seems like Sprint might be an option.
According to their coverage map they FINALLY have 4g lte in my area. I'm really considering changing some things up financially to save a little bit more and was wondering if rooting would get me around Sprints tethering. What I'd like to do is cancel my cable internet and just utilize my mobile connection. Thanks
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or Bonsai hotspot mod
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I downloaded the apk and tried to install it thru twrp and it failed any suggestions?
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I downloaded the apk and tried to install it thru twrp and it failed any suggestions?
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You don't install an .apk file through TWRP. When your phone is up just use a file manager to go to where you saved the apk and click on it. it should give you the option to install it. Just follow the directions and you should have it running in no time.
I agree if you don't know how to install an apk. file then you should try a different route to get your wifi to work. Yes TWRP is not needed as stated above
the reason i mentioned TWRP was because when i downloaded it off of your link it downloaded as a .zip not a .apk there is no reason to get snotty about it.
I've been wondering how it could be that T-mo could get such an extensive 5G network up so quickly? Then today while perusing through my phone I came across this sweet little nugget.
Spoiler: Fake it til ya make it!!!
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This explains the slowing of older 4G devices on T-mo's network. They're just pushing more bandwidth over 4G to "special devices" and making a grip on suckers like us buying into "5G". Same thing ATT did with an icon change, but ours is baked in.
Someone doesn't seem to know how NSA works. Your screenshot even shows NR-RSRP with NR-SNR.
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I've been wondering how it could be that T-mo could get such an extensive 5G network up so quickly? Then today while perusing through my phone I came across this sweet little nugget.
Spoiler: Fake it til ya make it!!!
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This explains the slowing of older 4G devices on T-mo's network. They're just pushing more bandwidth over 4G to "special devices" and making a grip on suckers like us buying into "5G". Same thing ATT did with an icon change, but ours is baked in.
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It only shows true when 5g data is being actively used.
It only registers it when in active use because of the fact that 4g is the default default when it comes to most phone functions.
Texting, phone calls, mms all go through 4g.
You can also verify that whole deal through my LTE configuration in the screenshot.
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Someone doesn't seem to know how NSA works. Your screenshot even shows NR-RSRP with NR-SNR.
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Gotta remember, it wasn't too long ago that people thought granting permission for internal storage would end up with their info gone or some other semi-sensationalist dribble.
This was the same way with early 4G phones. The first gen 4G radios used HSDPA+ which late gen 3G radios would connect to, but not fully utilize. How products and services are marketed are always divorced from what they really are, they won't outright lie, but they take advantage that the average customer won't read the fine print, are not engineers, and would complain to bbb(where ratings are bought) and never think about complaining to the FCC. The radio in my n10 pulls 10+ mbps consistently, no LTE branded radio I've had would get better 5 mbps. It's clearly using hardware that, for example my One+ 6T, does not have. According to xml's found in vendor partition, and info from system/vendor props Qualcom engineers have it classified as LTE, T-MOBILE marketing calls it 5G. Labels aside, network performance suggests this device has upgraded hardware. If your not impressed, try disabling ipv6 in your APN, and /proc/net/ipv6 files. You need root/adb anymore to do this. I attest to dramatic differences in network performance as it bypasses some network throttling. I don't know about you, but I waste the 30 gig throttle limit the first two days on the new radio.