I've been wondering how it could be that T-mo could get such an extensive 5G network up so quickly? Then today while perusing through my phone I came across this sweet little nugget.
Spoiler: Fake it til ya make it!!!
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This explains the slowing of older 4G devices on T-mo's network. They're just pushing more bandwidth over 4G to "special devices" and making a grip on suckers like us buying into "5G". Same thing ATT did with an icon change, but ours is baked in.
Someone doesn't seem to know how NSA works. Your screenshot even shows NR-RSRP with NR-SNR.
TheGuysGuysGuy said:
I've been wondering how it could be that T-mo could get such an extensive 5G network up so quickly? Then today while perusing through my phone I came across this sweet little nugget.
Spoiler: Fake it til ya make it!!!
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This explains the slowing of older 4G devices on T-mo's network. They're just pushing more bandwidth over 4G to "special devices" and making a grip on suckers like us buying into "5G". Same thing ATT did with an icon change, but ours is baked in.
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It only shows true when 5g data is being actively used.
It only registers it when in active use because of the fact that 4g is the default default when it comes to most phone functions.
Texting, phone calls, mms all go through 4g.
You can also verify that whole deal through my LTE configuration in the screenshot.
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Someone doesn't seem to know how NSA works. Your screenshot even shows NR-RSRP with NR-SNR.
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Gotta remember, it wasn't too long ago that people thought granting permission for internal storage would end up with their info gone or some other semi-sensationalist dribble.
This was the same way with early 4G phones. The first gen 4G radios used HSDPA+ which late gen 3G radios would connect to, but not fully utilize. How products and services are marketed are always divorced from what they really are, they won't outright lie, but they take advantage that the average customer won't read the fine print, are not engineers, and would complain to bbb(where ratings are bought) and never think about complaining to the FCC. The radio in my n10 pulls 10+ mbps consistently, no LTE branded radio I've had would get better 5 mbps. It's clearly using hardware that, for example my One+ 6T, does not have. According to xml's found in vendor partition, and info from system/vendor props Qualcom engineers have it classified as LTE, T-MOBILE marketing calls it 5G. Labels aside, network performance suggests this device has upgraded hardware. If your not impressed, try disabling ipv6 in your APN, and /proc/net/ipv6 files. You need root/adb anymore to do this. I attest to dramatic differences in network performance as it bypasses some network throttling. I don't know about you, but I waste the 30 gig throttle limit the first two days on the new radio.
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I'm pretty confident the warranty on my Evo will expire before 4G comes to my home area, despite the salesperson stating that it would here prior to 2010 year-end, Sprint has not even announced plans for my city yet.
So, I just wan to make sure it's working without having to travel 3 hrs minimum to test it on an actual WiMax signal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861989&highlight=rsa+keys
This will check to make sure your RSA keys are intact. Not sure of a way to actually test the signal without 4G in your area.
tempguest said:
I'm pretty confident the warranty on my Evo will expire before 4G comes to my home area, despite the salesperson stating that it would here prior to 2010 year-end, Sprint has not even announced plans for my city yet.
So, I just wan to make sure it's working without having to travel 3 hrs minimum to test it on an actual WiMax signal.
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Mail me your phone and I'll test it....
seriously though, Your keys can be in tact and all but it could be possible 4g still doesn't work... It's pretty much impossible to know without putting yourself in a 4g area.
dglowe343 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861989&highlight=rsa+keys
This will check to make sure your RSA keys are intact. Not sure of a way to actually test the signal without 4G in your area.
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I've actually backed them up already, but only after I rooted, nand unlocked, and install a custom ROM. I wasn't aware I could do this before I did.
I ran the grep command and the output was in order, but from what I understand, that output isn't a sure-fire way to insure that it's working.
Any other thoughts?
EDIT: Just noticed that we're both waiting on the same location for 4G.
leenypost said:
Mail me your phone and I'll test it....
seriously though, Your keys can be in tact and all but it could be possible 4g still doesn't work... It's pretty much impossible to know without putting yourself in a 4g area.
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I'm assuming you're in an area covered by 4G then? You know that the 4G is working on your phone, right?
Let me ask you this, then: what happens in your phones 4G settings menu when you're not getting a signal? Will your phone scan for a few seconds, then after not finding a signal, look like this:
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4G stays on but says disconnected after a few seconds?
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EDIT: Just noticed that we're both waiting on the same location for 4G.
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Yeah, I'm actually in Tampa right now visiting family and got to test 4G for the first time. It's nice but I dont consider 3G in the Detroit area to be that bad. Plus wifi is everywhere and much better on battery life.
I've updated my PRL and profile several times. My old phone was slow too. Could something be wrong with my account?
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It could be your area. Try testing in different locations. If it's still slow, then it may be your account.
Sometimes if you use a lot of data, there is some evidence to suggest sprint may throttle you.
The other thing could be your phone. If you have a lot of processes going, even ones that don't use data, it can still affect the phones ability to work properly.
I would try ruling those out and then call Sprint.
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Yeah my wifes phone gets about 500k compared to my 50 ish. 4g works good tho..
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Installed a non sense rom and it shows I'm not even connecting to 3g at all..
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There is a thread for this already, a lot of people are having this same problem, including me. It started around November, when before, I would constantly get at least 1500kbps down and up, as both my home and work are less than a block from a tower.
After one day for some reason, I can NEVER get anything above 100kpbs, and it usually doesnt work at all. I have done everything, and sprint, stupidly, thinks that its a hardware problem every time, and since November, they have given me 5 brand new evo's. ALL have the exact same problem. I'm no expert, but 5 brand new phones dont all have the same problem. I have called CS MANY MANY times, and they refuse to check their end, saying every time that "our network is fine".
Whats weird, every friend I have on sprint, their phones are fine, even 3 year old phones. Whats even weirder, my friend with an evo, and the evo's in the sprint store all are fine. But with this thread on here, and a long thread on AF, there seems to be an isolated issue with a lot of people.
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Whats weird, every friend I have on sprint, their phones are fine, even 3 year old phones. Whats even weirder, my friend with an evo, and the evo's in the sprint store all are fine. But with this thread on here, and a long thread on AF, there seems to be an isolated issue with a lot of people.
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Well you can count me in as an isolated issue. My 3G has been fine for like 2 years now, and all of the sudden, I'd say the past month or more, total crap. It's taking me about 5 minutes or more to download a 2mb app update on the market. 4G is still good. I really wish I knew what was going on. I do the same Profile and PRL updates like the OP daily.
Well its definitely not my 3g being "slow". I am just not connecting to it. Qik errors and says I am not connected to 3g. My data status says 1x RTT for my connection. I need to call sprint.
Is there a way to get unthrottled 3g speed back? I don't even get 1mb down.
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If there is any throttling going on, it's done on the carrier side and there isn't anything you can do about it. Unless you're in the top 5% of data users, it's doubtful you're being throttled.
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If there is any throttling going on, it's done on the carrier side and there isn't anything you can do about it. Unless you're in the top 5% of data users, it's doubtful you're being throttled.
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Well, on my previous phone, droid 2, it wasn't carrier side, it was built into the framework and would get triggered when you passed x amount of data. Some guy found the file and created a patch to restore normal speed, I flashed it on my droid 2 and went from the 0.5mbps, to 1.5mbps. Wasn't sure if there was something similar to that patch for the Inc 2.
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Well, on my previous phone, droid 2, it wasn't carrier side, it was built into the framework and would get triggered when you passed x amount of data. Some guy found the file and created a patch to restore normal speed, I flashed it on my droid 2 and went from the 0.5mbps, to 1.5mbps. Wasn't sure if there was something similar to that patch for the Inc 2.
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They had that with the original Inc also. Proved to be nothing in our control. False sense of security. Long thread discussing this and found to be useless to most
Wow. Any ballpark on what the "x" amount of data was?
After reading reception issues on this and other forums, I'm thinking this may be related to poor antenna design.
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If you're being throttled then I suspect you are doing something very wrong. I've broken 8gb without being throttled, including on my Inc2.
In any case...
In most places in my area I break 1mbit pretty easily. However, there are places where it's not unusual to be stuck at 300k-500k. This isn't throttling. This is poor signal quality in the area. The only way to get around it is get a better signal. Not a stronger signal...a better signal.
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If you're being throttled then I suspect you are doing something very wrong. I've broken 8gb without being throttled, including on my Inc2.
In any case...
In most places in my area I break 1mbit pretty easily. However, there are places where it's not unusual to be stuck at 300k-500k. This isn't throttling. This is poor signal quality in the area. The only way to get around it is get a better signal. Not a stronger signal...a better signal.
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So basically, there's nothing I can do, unless I move?
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So basically, there's nothing I can do, unless I move?
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Pretty much, yes. You can also try purchasing a repeater/signal booster (note: these are devices that can be expensive that you mount to a structure, not small devices or stickers you attach to your phone).
I found this article interesting, I have had T-Mobile for 2 years, so I've chalked the superior battery life I've gotten on the new technology, but any recent customers have experience with this?
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http://www.greenbot.com/article/246...-better-battery-life-than-other-carriers.html
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I found this article interesting, I have had T-Mobile for 2 years, so I've chalked the superior battery life I've gotten on the new technology, but any recent customers have experience with this?
http://www.greenbot.com/article/246...-better-battery-life-than-other-carriers.html
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My experience is anecdotal of course, but in many years with TMO, I've noticed I've had better battery durations consistently among my peers (same phone) at other carriers, and when discussed, we assumed two factors: 1) TMO coverage has been comparatively sparse, especially indoors, 2) When signal strength is good, it's a more stable 'fix' than other carriers, or the frequencies are simply more energy efficient, combined with tower spread. Sparse coverage means a drop in service level (ie. from 3G->2G) that results in less energy to maintain a connection. TMO focused their fastest service in dense urban areas, and oriented their towers a bit closer together compared to competitors, and here in Cali, also 'borrowed' cell towers in agreements with AT&T in the G, EDGE, 2G, 3G days. The result was that outdoors in urban/suburban areas, one got good to great, stable reception, with little searching to maintain connection. When one went indoors or signal otherwise degraded, a drop in service level was rather immediate, again resulting in less energy consumed maintaining a useable but slower connection. Even TMO's H+/3.5G/'fake 4G' was more efficient than their competitors '4G'. Now, I believe the 10x10 and 20x20 LTE in use is perhaps continuing the TMO lower energy tradition, as they still have denser coverage in populated areas, and expanding in traveling corridors (freeways connection major cities), where their competitors have been for some time. Sprint was all about broadest coverage, ATT was all about fastest service, VZN (in Cali) focused on selling hardware and heavy advertising, but was largely shunned by business, made up by volume and prepaid service. TMO approached their growth differently, and at a disadvantage in spectrum, but trudged through based on value and service, to where it is now. So this article bolsters my perception of how it has gone down.
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Getting these speeds with full bars,half bars,no bars, different areas of my city, Dallas, TX. Local AT&T store says they are aware of the issue........Dammit. Anyone else?
Kinda slow, but not nearly as bad out here in outskirts of Topeka Kansas.
Yeah, it's not normal, takes about 15 minutes to download a 7 mb app....
This is my speed and apn settings
Yea att network is pure crap compared to Verizon, they can't handle the bandwidth. It doesn't matter what city you're in how many bars you have or what time you try, it's randomly sporadic and always slower than Verizon. I have both and travel often and have compared them a lot. Verizon is always consistent, only issues ever are when there's a major concert or sporting event and the towers are overloaded, att almost always sucks, lol
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Yea att network is pure crap compared to Verizon, they can't handle the bandwidth. It doesn't matter what city you're in how many bars you have or what time you try, it's randomly sporadic and always slower than Verizon. I have both and travel often and have compared them a lot. Verizon is always consistent, only issues ever are when there's a major concert or sporting event and the towers are overloaded, att almost always sucks, lol
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This is totally untrue. I have very fast speeds on ATT and have coverage anywhere I go. I carried a Verizon phone for work and ATT for personal and both have spots (very few for either) where they didn't have service but ATT is just as fast.
ATT where I live (Orange County CA) is way faster in speed than friends I have with Verizon phones on their LTE network.
I'm all good from South of Houston. Great speeds where I'm at always consistent.
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Yea att network is pure crap compared to Verizon, they can't handle the bandwidth. It doesn't matter what city you're in how many bars you have or what time you try, it's randomly sporadic and always slower than Verizon. I have both and travel often and have compared them a lot. Verizon is always consistent, only issues ever are when there's a major concert or sporting event and the towers are overloaded, att almost always sucks, lol
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lol, false. I seen AT&T have the exact opposite to what you just said. And seen Verizon have slower to poor data speeds.
I've never seen that anywhere that they both have towers. I'm talking good signal full bars both 4g lte, att is always slower. Quite often atts network won't even work, getting speeds well below 1Mbps , this has been confirmed on multiple att phone's so I know for a fact its the network and not my phone.