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Evo Screen Outer Layer, Glass or Plastic?

I just got a brand new evo.
Took it to the beach once and now I have a very very shallow scratch on the surface due to sand.
It is totally unnoticeable unless I spend a few minutes moving it so the light hits it perfectly.
Then I see it, and once I see it theres no going back.
I am considering replacing it since it hasn't been 30 days, would I get a new or refurb?
(P.S. i wouldnt replace it just cause of that, also have screen separation issues and a stuck pixel)
My main question is, can I use Displex? They say that it shouldn't be used on touchscreen devices unless they have a "plastic lens"?
However the product is available here http://www.thinkevo4g.com/displex-1039.html
So i'm assuming it IS plastic then.
Can anyone verify before I worsen the situation.

Its made out of glass, FOR SURE. I shattered the crap out of one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6755678#post6755678

Damn, serial?
I suppose that means no on the displex.
It works only with plastic I guess.
Why would thinkevo4g have it then? Am I missing something?
Maybe you broke the second layer and there was a very thin plastic layer on top.
Do you remember anything like that?
*hoping*

No, he's right, it's DEFINATELY glass.
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WHOA WHOA! Warn someone when you're going to show something that graphic and gross. NSFW! NSFW!!

SteelH said:
No, he's right, it's DEFINATELY glass.
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I just threw up. Uncool dude, uncool.
Sent via the Sprint HTC EVO

Pours some out for fallen evo...Damn that's brutal.

Wow and I thought iPhone glass cracked! WTF happened to that poor EVO?!

I think steel asked himself Will it blend?
I msged thinkevo to see what they have to say. Ill update you guys when i know

topdnbass said:
I just got a brand new evo.
Took it to the beach once and now I have a very very shallow scratch on the surface due to sand.
It is totally unnoticeable unless I spend a few minutes moving it so the light hits it perfectly.
Then I see it, and once I see it theres no going back.
I am considering replacing it since it hasn't been 30 days, would I get a new or refurb?
(P.S. i wouldnt replace it just cause of that, also have screen separation issues and a stuck pixel)
My main question is, can I use Displex? They say that it shouldn't be used on touchscreen devices unless they have a "plastic lens"?
However the product is available here http://www.thinkevo4g.com/displex-1039.html
So i'm assuming it IS plastic then.
Can anyone verify before I worsen the situation.
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So sand scratching the screen made you think that it was plastic? White sand is quartz which is a 7 on the Mohs scale of hardness. Glass is generally around 6-7 so sand is a clear winner here. The problem is, the harder you make the screen, the more likely it is to shatter when you drop it. You can make it pretty much scratch proof by installing a sapphire lens such as is used on higher end watches and has a Mohs hardness of 9. Then all you have to do is keep your diamond ring away from it. But how would something like that handle drops? Probably not as well. Until nano materials get cheaper, it's all a compromise.

EtherealRemnant said:
Wow and I thought iPhone glass cracked! WTF happened to that poor EVO?!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712580
Read that link to find your answer...

ThinkEvo4G had a very lame response, they said that the displex isn't meant for the DISPLay but for the plastic parts around it.
If only they mentioned that before people bought it for their screen..
It's definitely glass.

[Q] Scratched Camera EVO

Curious to know what solutions if any there are for this issue.
The lense cover on my EVO is pretty scratched up, any solutions to get it clear again? I already tried a little of the compound from my headlight lens restore kit, and that helped some, but its still pretty blurry.
Can the Sprint stores replace it? I also saw some posts in the HTC Desire forum where they used Sapphire glass to replace it, but theirs is built into the cover, ours isn't

I used to be a tech for Sprint and yes they can replace it, in fact its extremely easy to fix. The lens isnt even a lens, its just part of the back housing. If you have insurance it should be free (if the charge you, tell them you know better.) If you dont have insurance you can pay them $35 and they can replace it or you can buy a back housing from ebay for about $10. Its very easy to do but you will need a T4 screwdriver which can be purchased for a couple bucks at any hardware store.

Hmm, eBay solution sounds much better, already have the T4. Any disassembly how-to's anywhere that I should know about?

http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2010/06/01/htc-evo-4g-teardown/
He says he used a T5, but I double checked and my takes a T4. Its super easy but the screws can strip easy so take your time on them.
Hope this helps. Feel free to PM if you have questions and thanks are appreciated!

You can purchase the lense cover on eBay for about $7. It's only held on by a small ring of adhesive. I had to replace mine a few months ago.
Simply remove the battery cover and use a small precision flat head screw driver or razor blade to pry off the scratched lense cover.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-OEM-HT...051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb8590f03

bsims85 said:
You can purchase the lense cover on eBay for about $7. It's only held on by a small ring of adhesive. I had to replace mine a few months ago.
Simply remove the battery cover and use a small precision flat head screw driver or razor blade to pry off the scratched lense cover.
Not trying to bash just making an observation...that seems like a lot of work to save $3, totally just my opinion.
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does your scratched cover actually cause issues with picture taking? I've got 1 really easy to see scratch on mine when looking at it but none of my pictures ever appear to be affected.

deathsled said:
does your scratched cover actually cause issues with picture taking? I've got 1 really easy to see scratch on mine when looking at it but none of my pictures ever appear to be affected.
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Oh yea. The pictures look fuzzy and just terrible, but its pretty significantly roughed up.

akilestar said:
Not trying to bash just making an observation...that seems like a lot of work to save $3, totally just my opinion.
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I'd agree, watching that teardown video your solution seems much simpler. Just bought a new back housing for $9 on eBay.

Well that was easy. $9 solution for the win! Pictures are nice and clear now...sample.
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SweepinJR said:
Well that was easy. $9 solution for the win! Pictures are nice and clear now...sample.
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My pics look exactly like your first pic and my lens is all scratched up, thanks for photos now i know that is def my camera problem.

Galaxy Nexus XDA case

The Galaxy Nexus XDA case is now on amazon with Free Prime Shipping
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B6ZO13U/
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Holy crap, thanks for this mate, I was wondering when they would be back in stock

Quality is ****,I think mine lasted a week before it started peeling,other as supporting xda would not recommend this case free shipping or not.
Tapatyping from my GNex

Damn...already placed the order anyway, when I get mine I'll let you guys know if it is any different.

are those sold in Europe or they should be shipped from the US
have a nice day

archibrid said:
are those sold in Europe or they should be shipped from the US
have a nice day
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they are shipped from the us

I got mine last week. It seems quality enough to me. I'm not sure what there is to peel, the color/paint seems to be pretty well on there. Maybe the guy with the peeling one just got a bum case? Don't mind the crap photo. Its from an old Pantech phone as my GNex is in the photo.

icase81 said:
I got mine last week. It seems quality enough to me. I'm not sure what there is to peel, the color/paint seems to be pretty well on there. Maybe the guy with the peeling one just got a bum case? Don't mind the crap photo. Its from an old Pantech phone as my GNex is in the photo.
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This is what people mean by the case peeling:
Mine was fine on arrival. But I rubbed the case the wrong way putting the phone in and it scratched it. That scratch led to the print peeling off. My friend that has it for his Nexus 4 even has the same issue.

trainplane3 said:
This is what people mean by the case peeling:
Mine was fine on arrival. But I rubbed the case the wrong way putting the phone in and it scratched it. That scratch led to the print peeling off. My friend that has it for his Nexus 4 even has the same issue.
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Same here quality is poor and is too much hassle to claim a new one as I am in Europe,ah well at least I am supporting XDA

Just got mine today and I have to say it is a good quality.
Will test is this week going in and out of some different pockets and see if I get the same peeling problem.
Just from feeling it right now, it feels like a quality case, I also have the Diztronic tpu case which is great, but this feels a bit more premium.

One week in and the case is still holding up really well, I guess the guys who got the peeling problem may have gotten some that
were not supposed to pass quality control. It happens, so far so good for me, not a problem with it and people are asking me where
did I get that case

amd-dude said:
One week in and the case is still holding up really well, I guess the guys who got the peeling problem may have gotten some that
were not supposed to pass quality control. It happens, so far so good for me, not a problem with it and people are asking me where
did I get that case
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I wouldn't be so sure. Mine is just faintly starting to turn white at the flashing seam.

icase81 said:
I wouldn't be so sure. Mine is just faintly starting to turn white at the flashing seam.
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Dang, that sucks, mine is still in good condition, just oils and what not from my fingers on the back.

N7 Repair - what electronics are IN the bezel?

So.... I had a VERY tough week at work and was exhausted, stumbling getting out of my car... and dropped my Nexus 7 (LTE!!!)... Screen was still fully visible but non-responsive and glass extremely shattered over the entire surface.
Like an IDIOT, I believed some of the tips and only ordered the glass/digitizer and not the LCD. Well there's $50 down the tube as you CANNOT separate them without destroying the LCD (do not believe anyone who says otherwise)..
So.... Hairdryer would not soften the glue at all so I had to buy a heat gun. On the lowest setting (for safety) it barely softened the glue and required a LOT of persuasion to get the glass loose. The LCD was (as pointed out by those who have actually done this) destroyed in the process... OK, now $100 for the full glass/LCD combo.
However, I have ONE huge concern. During the process, the bezel on the top got overheated and the plastic is damaged. The bezel still snaps securely to the back. However, I noticed there is a small circuit board *inside* the bezel with three metal contacts. What is that? Is it possible that's damaged? The plastic around it shows definite signs of heat damage. Since you CANNOT order a replacement bezel for a N7 2013, and since this is an LTE device, I'm pretty committed to fixing it still. But I'm nervous about ordering parts with the damaged bezel if there are irreplaceable electronics that have been damaged inside the bezel...
So... my question: What is that circuit board that is molded inside the bezel with the metal contacts? What are the odds it was destroyed?
(Posting photos in a few from the phone)

Here are the pictures.
In one side you can see the contacts. The other side the circuit board in question is visible in a small opening.
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EDIT: I looked at the part from iFixit, and the bezel is quite different on the LTE model from the Wifi model. It appears that this is the wifi antenna ... the bottom of my bezel has another similar one which is probably part of the LTE antenna. ... so the question is, what are the chances the heating damaged the wifi antenna... not sure what I think about a 4G only tablet...
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

UPDATE
Okay... I figured out the wifi antenna (and LTE 4g antenna at bottom?) are actually stickers... it appears they're not damaged as best I can tell. Hope so. The bezel is warped noticeably at one end, but it still snaps into the back side of the case just fine, and the circuit bords fit. So hopefully... *crosses fingers*... it is still repairable.
Honestly, at this point though, I wish more people who had actually DONE the repair would have suggested that it is NOT something to be done by end users. Reassurances that it's "easy if you follow the directions" are highly misguided. At this point I would have paid ASUS for a repair and come out ahead, once you count the resale value of a device that now has a visibly damaged bezel if I even get it working again. I've never had a problem repairing devices in the past, but this one is not as easy as so many "guides" make it sound.
I should have realized sooner that most of those who said it is easy are also in the business of selling glass/digitizers (USELESS!!!) and LCD/Glass/Digitizer combos.

quite similar experience to what i had trying to repair my old n7 glass, only did i order the glass/lcd combo from the beginning. cracked it while trying to fit it in the warped bezel tho.

Yeah, breaking glass due to the warped bezel is what worries me. Unfortunately the LTE bezel appears to be different than the WiFi, so buying a cheaper one and swapping the bezel doesn't appear to be an option either.
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Lenovo P2 Cracked Screen.

I've had this phone since release and it's possibly one of the best devices i ever had for it's price, yesterday and while i was sleeping(i always keep my phone to the left of my pillow) i somehow managed to push it off the bed(probably less than 0.5m distance) and it landed on its screen against ceramic floor, result?
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I've had my fair share of accidents over the years with different phone models and brands but i never seen a phone crack like this from such a fall, it's like it's made of regular glass even though they claim it's gorilla glass.
What's worse is i called the local repair center and they said that they don't provide replacement parts for this phone anymore, and searching around on the internet it looks like replacing the screen manually would cost over $100 for a phone that i bought for around $200 when it was released and a screen that breaks so easily.
Now that my rant is over, my question is how can i tell if it's only the glass or the actual LED screen? i turned it off immediately as it was making very weird noises and i was afraid it would completely black out without being able to recover the data off it, i have very sensitive and important data that i need to extract and i don't trust sending it to a 3rd party repair thing.

Ruudvangoal said:
I've had this phone since release and it's possibly one of the best devices i ever had for it's price, yesterday and while i was sleeping(i always keep my phone to the left of my pillow) i somehow managed to push it off the bed(probably less than 0.5m distance) and it landed on its screen against ceramic floor, result?
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Yes ceramic is harder than your gorilla glass 3. So the ceramic wins. Nothing special.
Ruudvangoal said:
I've had my fair share of accidents over the years with different phone models and brands but i never seen a phone crack like this from such a fall, it's like it's made of regular glass even though they claim it's gorilla glass.
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Every fall is different from each other. To compare that is useless except you do this on laboratory conditions.
Ruudvangoal said:
What's worse is i called the local repair center and they said that they don't provide replacement parts for this phone anymore, and searching around on the internet it looks like replacing the screen manually would cost over $100 for a phone that i bought for around $200 when it was released and a screen that breaks so easily.
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That a material with lower hardness (which is brittle) breaks on an impact (maybe in bad conditions/impact angle..) with an harder material is nothing unusual.
As I read it's gorilla glass 3. This is 3 times harder than gorilla glass 2 to be more resistant against scratches. Whats the drawback of this? It is more brittle, see your result.
Because ~70% of the screen damages are from falling damage, they made gorilla glass 4 softer than level 3 to make it more resistant against falling damage. But this makes Level 4 vulnerable to scratches again.
Gorilla glass doesn't mean that it is unbreakable and unscratchable at the same time especially with the early ones.
Ruudvangoal said:
Now that my rant is over, my question is how can i tell if it's only the glass or the actual LED screen? i turned it off immediately as it was making very weird noises and i was afraid it would completely black out without being able to recover the data off it, i have very sensitive and important data that i need to extract and i don't trust sending it to a 3rd party repair thing.
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Turn it on and you will know if the led screen is working or not. Got a P2 with the same shattered glass and the screen works as usual. I don't think theres anything special (magical) you can do. It works or it doesn't. You can also open your device and look if the cable from the screen is still plugged in. No guarantee from my side..