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well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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I recently also moved from HD2 to Desire HD and also don't see the reason for rooting.
I messed around with HD2 because I didn't like WM and I wanted Android.
Now that I have Android as a native OS I also really don't see the need for rooting. I belive that official updates are always way better than the unofficial ones (this ment with all due respect to all of the chefs out there that are trying their best) because unofficial ones have testing cycle that are way smaller and so new versions with fixes tend to come out at least once in a couple of days.
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. If you think I'm also wrong, please say so.
If you're happy with your phone now then by all means leave it as it is. But as long as you follow instructions to the word, you're not going to brick your device.
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I belive that official updates are always way better than the unofficial ones (this ment with all due respect to all of the chefs out there that are trying their best) because unofficial ones have testing cycle that are way smaller and so new versions with fixes tend to come out at least once in a couple of days.
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. If you think I'm also wrong, please say so.
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I would have to say that the ROMs I have used (ARHD many versions and CM7 Rc1) that the testing cycle might be smaller but support is generally a lot better than with the official updates.
But in answer to your question is Rooting worth it, well that all depends on what you want from your phone tbh. If you want a customised ROM or the ability to move ALL apps in their entirety to your SD (this is a root only feature) a heavily improved battery life (in some circles) or stock android experience etc, then yea Root that bad boy and enjoy.
If however you are a standard user then it really is not worth it. I rooted mine as i wanted to eek out some extra battery and performance. It was worth it.
I'm new to rooting & flashing roms this week, had my dhd since oct last year & kept it legit until now.
Everything's gone fine for me - downgraded from official ota 2.2.1 (1.72.xxx.x) to 2.2 (1.32.xxx.x - PD98IMG.zip file) so i could root (didn't need goldcard, phone unlocked & unbranded from new)
I got a RUU just in case though.
Did the s-off & radio off thing (couldn't be any easier), put revolution rom on first, but didn't think much of it, so now i'm on CM7... loving it, but it's early days.
Still got to work out how to get the market back (google apps file needed i think).
Originally rooted so i could get my bluetooth keyboard working with my dhd, revolution made no difference, CM7 is looking promising.
kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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Hi!
Is root worth it?
Well. I can only speak for my self of course. Where I live, Google has not yet opened up for paid apps. It is possible to circumvent but, for me, the easiest solution requires root.
If I want to clarify a problem or a solution, e.g. at xda, it is nice to be able to add a screen dump. This is possible through Android SDK, but i haven't, as of yet, figured out how to do this. Anyway you need to be hooked up to a computer to do this which kind of negates the idea of posting from the phone. There's an app to do this as well but again, this requires root.
Living in a small arctic town the weather app hasn't got my location in the database. It is possible and quite easy to remedy this issue but - u guessed it - requires root.
I guess it comes down to personal preferences which, at least for me, has got a lot to do with where I live.
Can you get by without root? Good for you, best of luck etc.
I can't.
Regards Elo.
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Like it was pointed out, the main advantage are the custom ROMs or kernels. The apache 13 kernels have great performance.
If you don't plan on using them root isn't that needed though. On the other hand rooting is almost risk free with the new one click tools.
If you have to ask. Then no.
Personally, I'm not much for sense and I love to play around with different Roms, kernels, overclocking and all that.
I can only think of one thing worth rooting for if you're not going to flash, overclock and so on. And that is the fact one can remove those bloody ads with Adfree.
kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
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Bottom Point: HUGE BATTERY LIFE IMPROVEMENT!!
You decide.
im in a urban area so i dont need root to unlock app market and hidden apps and paid apps.. im have 16 hrs a day n my phone is usually connected to the pc... so charging is not a problem fr me... n 2.2.1 did improve the battery by alot... i did nt touch the phone fr 7 hours and the battery only went down by 2%
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If you are pleased with your DHD with sesnse don't. But you asking therfor i think you are courious. Read about it here in XDA and the different threads, collect information and when your couriosity gets to big you know where to find the info.
All the effort i see invested in CM9-CM10_AOKP with as mayor problem that all the memory gets consumed so that only few applications can run ????
I ask myself why !!!
Tried out CM9/CM10/OAKP(franklin)) and installed a2sdx and int2ext4+ .... just to be able to get some applications running
Not only is the thing getting horribly slow and very buggy it is in fact completely unusable at this time.
Ex standard applications as Google play are completely failing ....
it is possible to download aps and install them manually but then you can not support it any more.....
These are NOT rom's for daily use. not in a long shot .
its back to good old Piethtz who took pride in finishing stuff untill it was WORKING AND STABLE.
Bugs in AOKP (franklin) just use it it fails and crashes
bugs in CM9 lagging like hell practicably impossible to use the keyboard
and do not tell me not to use a2sd functionality it's simply not worth it for 2 applications/not even for 30 ... then Stock roms are way better.
A long as that memory limitation problem is there android notebooks and phones are dead, not worth investing in not in 2012
If their architecture is such that this is killing the use we should abandon android architecture its mis concieved
this is not the quality of windows
this is not the quality of linux
this is not yet .....
if installing multiple applications use a simple symbolic or direct link is getting in so much trouble the real quality of the whole is not Good
with all respect for the work of ericas and ....
signing off
you should know there isnt an old windows phone or whatever that can run windows 8 via an unofficial way.
ics/jb is not made for our gio's, and so, it wont work as good as you want it to be. if you want that, buy a galaxy s3. they even give you a better screen and processor.
so stfu and live with it or get rich and buy high end smartphones.
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Did you try link2sd?
By the way I've just installed this rom, and I think it's the first usable Android 4 for Gio.
Camera and camcorder working finally, everything's running stable and smooth (yet).
The only thing I haven't experienced yet is battery life. If it can take 1.5-2 days with average usage, it will pass my high standards that no other non-stock based rom have passed yet.
Oh, and after installing some basic apps(Skype, Maps, GMail, TC, etc...), I still have 108MB free on internal mem.
So no, it's not a joke, it's the best ROM out currently for Gio (a smooth camcorder like the TW Camera in stock would be good, but this is just a minor negative point if you take the features that ICS gives into consideration).
I say this after trying about 30 different ROM's in the past half year...
I'm sorry to ask you this: did you pay for his work? which makes you right for komplain about it?
installed a2sdx and int2ext4+ .... just to be able to get some applications running
this is your problem
two scripts that do the same thing
chose only one of them (i recomment cronmod int2ext+ if you want that kind of script, i use link2sd and link only the games)
and in developer settings choose force gpu rendering(for better battery aver all) and smartassv2 or interactive
Some bugs
Can someone please post this in the dev thread? I don't have 10 posts yet...
So far I've found these four bugs:
-(MINOR) Ringtones play only once if there's no ANDROID_LOOP=true OGG metatag in the sound file. By the metatag it seems rather a feature than a bug, but in 2.3.x roms it was not needed, and it can really troll new rom users. Please fix if possible, or write instructions (convert file to ogg and set the metatag, that's all but it needed me a lot of googling to find it)
-(MAJOR) Init.d settings (at rom settings) cause heavy load, and settings won't stay (su permission request accepted of course). It can't be enabled at all because of this.
-(MAJOR) Google Talk from gapps-ics-20120429 FC with "Need GTalk_SERVICE permission".
Tried first by just installing talk.apk (extracted from gapps) as system app, then by flashing the whole gapps zip, then with full wipe, rom reflash and flashing gapps immediately after rom flash, but no luck. Tried CWM fix permission too (no effect), but couldn't try rom init.d feature fix permissions due to the previous bug.
-(CRITICAL) If I go outside the signal area of a WIFI AP (without turning off wifi) and there's no other available connection (I don't have mobile net atm), the whole system crashes when an application tries to initiate a connection.
No response to:
-Touch
-Back softkey long set to kill
-Pwr hardkey, home hardkey
Only removing battery helps, however my live wp (phase beam, the one that's integrated in the rom) moves until that.
It happened two times:
-Wifi dropped due to signal loss, unlock phone, push browser icon, browser icon glows, crash
-Wifi dropped due to signal loss, unlock phone, open wifi settings (with wifi powerswitch longpress), select another ap to connect to, start to enter wpa passphrase, crash after typing 4 chars (some process in the background may have tried to initiate a connection meanwhile)
If you can't reproduce tell me and I'll try in USB Debug to get a logcat dump.
I still say this is the best ICS/JB rom out for Gio, but if you can fix these it'll be completely perfect
cojeapetru said:
installed a2sdx and int2ext4+ .... just to be able to get some applications running
this is your problem
two scripts that do the same thing
chose only one of them (i recomment cronmod int2ext+ if you want that kind of script, i use link2sd and link only the games)
and in developer settings choose force gpu rendering(for better battery aver all) and smartassv2 or interactive
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Enthusiastic Gio User
Very glad with the work done
But sometimes a pusher for results( nothing bad intended)
dreuzel said:
Enthusiastic Gio User
Very glad with the work done
But sometimes a pusher for results( nothing bad intended)
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installing multiple a2ad.. methods one after the other gives similar errors that disappear when not installed. Up to no one published this serious memory handling BUG in the center of ics cm9/scm10/aokp biggest problem area.
problems in the center area need to be solved if people want to believe in any future for the Rom.
why invest time in any os if people are not assured the main problem lack of memory handling poses a risk of complete failure
that is the reason for the"is this a joke?"
the hard work of the developers is NOT assured questioned nor diminished
I refered to linux and windows as basic fundamental robustness as a base.
individual apps anoi one person.failure into the core make everything fail
Enthusiastic Gio User
Very glad with the work done
But sometimes a pusher for results( nothing bad intended)
you have crash on my rom? R u kidding me ? R u using any tweak? I use that for gaming/internet and music at same time and no crash, try reflashing rom, also cm is bigger than aokp, that's why cm9/cm10 are laggier, but with aokp jb or ics rom isnt crashing
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you have crash on my rom? R u kidding me ? R u using any tweak? I use that for gaming/internet and music at same time and no crash, try reflashing rom, also cm is bigger than aokp, that's why cm9/cm10 are laggier, but with aokp jb or ics rom isnt crashing
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In my opinion I find your AOKP to be the most efficient and stable ROM I have installed on my phone so far. The battery so far has lasted up to 2 days while I have been receiving calls and playing games and its only at 66%! I am loving your ROM. No crashes so far. Thanks for all your (and erikcas, jellaxy's) hard work.
Frankin96 said:
you have crash on my rom? R u kidding me ? R u using any tweak? I use that for gaming/internet and music at same time and no crash, try reflashing rom, also cm is bigger than aokp, that's why cm9/cm10 are laggier, but with aokp jb or ics rom isnt crashing
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No tweak. Some apps uninstalled from system (trebuchet, live wp's), and link2sd that's all. With link2sd Google Maps is on SD, maybe it's background service doesn't like it, apart from it there's nothing wrong I could've done.
CPU settings: clocks at stock, governor is SAv2.
About 1 crash / day. Newer crashes seemed unrelated to wifi signal drop.
Set higher minfree value
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G0B1IN5486 said:
In my opinion I find your AOKP to be the most efficient and stable ROM I have installed on my phone so far. The battery so far has lasted up to 2 days while I have been receiving calls and playing games and its only at 66%! I am loving your ROM. No crashes so far. Thanks for all your (and erikcas, jellaxy's) hard work.
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CPU Settings? Because mine lasts only one day, but I use phase beam live WP, so that could be the cause if you use similar settings as I.
Frankin96 said:
Set higher minfree value
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Thanks, I'm gonna try it
Lwp cause lag..
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Look "dreuzel" xda is not for whiny kids, accept it or gtfo.
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You can use linke2sd on AOKP(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968537) it works for me.
And stop complaning in every thread. The developers are making their work for fun and most important for FREE.
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
d_gkal said:
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
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If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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alexnh said:
I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
tarroyo said:
It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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So, my problem is that every ROM I flash that isn't htc sense, like cyanogenmod for instance, my ram fills up to the max. Progressively after using the phone for about an hour (it, generally being very, very fast), it'll slow right down. I got to my running apps to find out if anything is running up my ram, close everything, and I still have 0.0 bytes of free ram... like, wtf? I'm decently experienced with android coding and thought I'd seen it all.. Any help?
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Hey! Sorry for not checking back for so long, I thought the thread was dead.
Just to clarify me and Lars problem for anyone who's trying to help:
We can run any sense based rom 100% okay, I've even tried the new MIUI (sense based) and it works flawlessly(the ram issue I mean). With any ROM on ics or jb that is NOT sense based, our phone will freak out after a short amount of usage and lock up really horribly, to the point of complete silence from the device. It just won't do anything.
Now, I've managed to narrow down the problem myself, although I can't really act on it because I'm not experienced with coding at all. I believe the phones RAM gets taken up because of the com.android.media process. This process will open when the phone turns on and will try to scan for new media, although something strange happens. My RAM continues to fill up for as long as this process is running, the number or free mb slowly getting smaller, until it reaches zero. When this happens, the media process (along with most other processes that would still be running) throw themselves into a loop of restarting and restarting again, until I eventually manage to click the stop button. However, this doesn't help. The phone remains in it's intensively laggy state.
Can anyone help?
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I've managed to discover more information about this problem, and it appears to be stemming from my SD Card. When my sd card is not inserted, media storage doesn't have to run. The phone runs smoothly when this happens, and I have almost 100 mb of RAM free. Although, once I insert the card, media storage starts up and eats up all the RAM on the device until the number reaches 0.0bytes free, in which case the device becomes inoperable. This trend will not change, and I'd like to see if anyone can help me out.
Many thanks,
Marcus // Rekreant
I have the exact same problem. For me it came after a repair under warranty by HTC. Did you get a repair too? If so HTC probally screwed us.
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lars1216 said:
I have the exact same problem. For me it came after a repair under warranty by HTC. Did you get a repair too? If so HTC probally screwed us.
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No, because sadly it works fine with the HTC stock ROM so I can't call their bluff on it.. I need to figure this out though, sense is killing me. I need my aosp or miui fix ahha
same. but i dont know the problem than, for me it worked just fine on cm10 before the repair, flashed back to stock, send it in for repair, got it back, reflashed cm10 or any other cm based rom for that matter and had ram problems, so in my case i think htc screwed me. here's to hoping someone may know a fix
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same. but i dont know the problem than, for me it worked just fine on cm10 before the repair, flashed back to stock, send it in for repair, got it back, reflashed cm10 or any other cm based rom for that matter and had ram problems, so in my case i think htc screwed me. here's to hoping someone may know a fix
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Well **** eh, you think that they'd still take it if the bootloader was relocked?
Probally not. I had mine relocked and had to make a big fuss in the store to get a free repair. They were gonna charge me €300 while the phone itself was €289 at that time. (And I only had the yellow spot screen problem....)
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Probally not. I had mine relocked and had to make a big fuss in the store to get a free repair. They were gonna charge me €300 while the phone itself was €289 at that time. (And I only had the yellow spot screen problem....)
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Ew, that's retarded man. I'm kinda dreading having this phone, the first one I got had it's antenna broken out of the box, that was gay. And this one, I can't change the rom or else it freaks out and has no ram.
Pissing me off so much man.
I know how you feel kinda wish I had just coped with the yellow spots, its less annoying than being stuck on sense...
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/bump, anyone know a fix?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33523220
Please read that scruffy. Android doesn't manage apps like windows does. Free ram is useless ram when it comes to android.
Hope that helps, also which governor for CPU you use? Could be a cause of the slowdowns also.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33523220
Please read that scruffy. Android doesn't manage apps like windows does. Free ram is useless ram when it comes to android.
Hope that helps, also which governor for CPU you use? Could be a cause of the slowdowns also.
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hi there.. sorry but this ain't a battery problem, its the phone slowing down.. i'm facing the same problem.. im on cm9 and phone lags so often.. i checked the ram and less than 20mb free while i did'nt use any app.. it shows only usual process (settings, launcher, google service, swiftkey, facebook, poweramp)
i have used cm9 for months without problems.. i tried some sense roms lately and revert back to cm9 and now i'm having these problems
Alborotz said:
hi there.. sorry but this ain't a battery problem, its the phone slowing down.. i'm facing the same problem.. im on cm9 and phone lags so often.. i checked the ram and less than 20mb free while i did'nt use any app.. it shows only usual process (settings, launcher, google service, swiftkey, facebook, poweramp)
i have used cm9 for months without problems.. i tried some sense roms lately and revert back to cm9 and now i'm having these problems
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i didnt say it was a battery problem. the governor you use can greatly affect the speed of your phone. i usually use smartassv2, because it adjusts the cpu speeds to your usage.
ill say it again, free ram in android is wasted ram. processes get cached, held in the background in ram until they are needed again. because it says you have 20mb free of ram, thats 20 mb thats not being used, which means its useless ram. android task killer (built in by the way) automatically caches or closes old processes that arent in use anymore to make way for the stuff you do use.
dont shoot the messenger, im just explaining how it works. also i have noticed through testing supersick kernels with jb, that some make the phone lag more than others. if you are on cm9, i would advise you to upgrade to cm10, where kernel work is actively being done. ics kernels are not being developed anymore. simon is working on caf kernels and implementing ion, (dont ask me what we use right now, look through his kernel thread for his explanation) which he said what we use right now is not ideal for memory management. there are no guaruntees that what he implements will be pulled back into ics kernels.
cm10 (im on cdma btw) with supersick kernel 12-30 has been rock solid for me. no lag, no slowdowns, and great battery life.
sorry for the wall of text, hope that helps though
Well 20-30 mb free wouldn't be a problem because like you said android does manage things different than windows. But the OP and I have 0 bytes free ram right after boot, so we can't open any app at all, they all crash instantly. So that's our problem, not too little ram, since that's good on android, we have no free ram at all.
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did you relock your bootloader and ruu back to stock? sounds like something went haywire in the unlocking/rooting/romming process. also did you flash multiple roms to see if its just the rom you are on? try cm, aokp, pa, sense, etc. eliminate all loose ends.
if you relock, ruu, and unlock/root/rom again with multiple roms/kernels, and the problem still isnt solved, id say you should contact htc. your mainboard may be going bad.
once again, dont shoot the messenger. im just trying to be helpful. gotta eliminate all possible causes before calling it a hardware defect.
Did do all those things indeed. They may have set me up with a faulty mainboard than (I send it to HTC for repair of the mainboard and after that this problem started) f you HTC.
By the way like we said, the problem isn't there on any sense based rom. Only cm/aosp based Roms. So it may not be the mainboard than I think right? If it was it would be on sense roms too I think.
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are you cdma or gsm? and yeah, htc may have just got your phone, looked at it, laughed, and sent it back. i have heard many horror stories about companies not even working on stuff being sent in before sending it back out, or sending rejected stuff back out as warranty repairs.
strange that it only happens on aosp based stuff, do you use the task killer in sense? it goes against what i just said to say this, but heck, maybe try a task killer for android. or v6 supercharge your aosp based rom. something has to solve the problem.
I'm gsm. And they did fix my phone for sure since it wouldn't boot at all before the repair so I don't think they just send it back. Did supercharge the aosp rom, didn't help. And I don't use a task killer on sense so that can't be it.
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I'm in the same boat. Stock runs fine but all aftermarket roms lag insanely. I've found SIO and NOOP schedulers to be the fastest and even put the CPU on performance and ran the clock up to the max, still lags to the point of being useless. I tried a few roms a few months ago so I forgot which ones but I just tried this ROM again yesterday: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878994 and even w/o installing really any apps, after a half-day I tried to use the browser and got ridiculous lag. I just gave up on AOSP roms on this phone, least there's a plus, you get the burst camera w/ stock
Bumpity bump.
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And up we go. No one has any other ideas?
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HI if i dont care for other stuff other then battery.
What rom/os is the one that i need?
Installed a cm 10.1 it sucked the hell out the battery.
Thnx
Try that one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683638
If you want lasting battery but dont want official samsung rom, you need to go for something like cm 7.2 (gingerbread) and disable background data, not ics, jellybean and such, which are still bugged for gio, although on the right path.. you can force them to suck less juice by disabling services and get good battery too, but for now its better to stick with a 7.2 variant with improved graphics and themes jellybean-like.
with background data disabled the good part is that i can get 4 days of moderate usage with some 1-2 hours screen on during this time...the bad thing is that you get no notifications for new mails and stuff, so not much of a "smartphone" .. current rom cm 7.2 based lasts me 2 days with background data on.. for such a low end phone is satisfactory
Install enhanced2.3.6!!
just try aurora rom 3
Thnx everybody will try em out.
tried cm 7.2 - now my battery lasts 1 day, which is sad. Will try to reflash, no facebok and disable background update as mentioned above. Thanks!
The best keeps the battery is: CyanogenMod 7.2 and CyanMobile X ^^
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For me the best is: CyanogenMOD7 with Touchwiz & LG UI Music. Frequently using intetnet with wifi. End of the day 35% remaining!!!!
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For me the M'rage Rom works fine.
In my opinion Aurora Rom is equivalent (is the same creator^^).