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Are we finally happy or not? (FroYo)

So how do you feel in general after the update?
- Was it worth it?
- Can we say that our Desire got significantly faster?
- Are we happy now after 3 days of refreshing and checking for updates?

not happy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741566

Hell yeah i am happy.
This will give the Chef's a better base for their custom sense rom's.
Now we only need the sourcecode released

Overall Im happy, my phone performs just as well if not better (some videos played through RockPlayer are also smoother), and the new features are nice, on top of personally having had no issues.
Obviously would still like another update with the promised xvid/divx however, and preferably if they decide to call it a 'media' update; it'd be nice if they extended codec support to h264, aac etc.

So how do you feel in general after the update?
- Was it worth it? - Without doubt!
- Can we say that our Desire got significantly faster? - Yes, also scrolling and animations are smoother but that's not everything that's good about FroYo
- Are we happy now after 3 days of refreshing and checking for updates? - Hell I am!!!

Really happy with the update, the phone flies, I just tested ChromeToPhone and it is amazing !
Well done HTC and Google.

I'm happy with the update. I think is because my phone is working well and stable. Plus I like the feeling of original.
However, there are still some rooms for it to improve.
such as.......If I can call someone by voice dialing over the bluetooth headset....

513 said:
Really happy with the update, the phone flies, I just tested ChromeToPhone and it is amazing !
Well done HTC and Google.
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Where u get ChrometoPhone?

rico8787my said:
Where u get ChrometoPhone?
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http://code.google.com/p/chrometophone/downloads/list
Click the crx file to install the extension on Chrome.
Install the apk on you phone. And login on both. You're done.

513 said:
Click the crx file to install the extension on Chrome.
Install the apk on you phone. And login on both. You're done.
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or Send To Phone addon for Firefox

Not Happy - camera failing.

Yes all happy now, I've actually unrooted and installed it after a deep breath. I waited to see if the general opinion was and went for it. Got fed up of flashing my phone twice a day cos of some issue or other with custom roms. All stable for me at the mo, will see how it goes.

I pressed update on my phone but says no updates available... im from the philippines...
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Am I happy? Yes and no. I'm happy that my phone has a speed increase and all the other features, but I'm not happy that out of the 39 apps I have installed only 4 of them can be moved to the SD card! Making my months of waiting for a way to get more space on my device totally wasted. Epic fail by goggle by not making the option built in to the OS and not the apps.
Rooting the device is looking more attractive to me now, pitty I cant now I've upgraded. Here's hoping they get it rooted soon.

is support for wiimote controller removed in froyo sense too?

Happy to have some new features to play around but really frustrated for not being able to voice dial via bluetooth. The most useful feature to me is not presente without reason.

I am quite happy. Have moved most apps to the SD (via the greencodeblog app) and have about 140 apps installed. Only Tunewiki and TagToDo had to be shifted back because the widgets didn't work any more.

Yes very happy!
- Faster
- apps2sd works like a charm
- nice new apps and widgets
- overall feel is faster and more smooth
- camera performance is faster
I tested apss2cd with a 10 mb app. it moved about 8mb to the sdcard.
small prob:
- some apps i bought in the market place i deleted before the update. They don't show up in the market place anymore. Not with downloads, not with searching (Raging thunder 2 for example)

To be honest it's not a very noticeable upgrade (hence only the .1 increase probably) but it does feel snapier and brings some extra functionality. What makes me happy is that HTC has treated the Desire as a flagship and has delivered Froyo to us just 1 month after the Nexus One (and before any other manufacturer). This gives me confidence that we will benefit from further upgrades in a timely matter. Well done HTC!
One happy HTC customer.

Yes very happy!

Should I hack my Desire?

Hey, im sorry if I used the wrong term (hack) but I am not knowledgable in this field. I was wondering though what benefits there are to using "custom roms" (I think thats right).
The main complaint with my Desire is the extreme lack of internal memory and slow software updates from telus (froyo and honeycomb for example in case I used the wrong term again). If either of these issues could be fixed from hacking my Desire (primarily the memory one) I would more then likely go through with it. (I have 15 mb of free memory and its a Huge annoyance)
You see, I hacked my psp back in the day because I could play games for free , get cutom themes and all that cool stuff. I was wondering what special things you can do with a "custom OS".
Im sorry if I said anything wrong, blatantly obvious or if this topic has been made before. I just want my phone to be all it can be, thanks a million and all the best.

i do have desire too, have rooted recently , have tried, various roms , like , leedroid, starburst, coolz etc, now using gingervillian ,
i felt like you before but rooting will give you choice of OS to install and you dont have to wait OTA update to use gingerbread or latest OS.
if you need more space then starburst might be your choice.

I never regret rooting my phone, it is awesome! Really do recommend it!

Of course
It's better,faster,smoother,more space for apps

Yes, you should've.
Take a look on Leedroid ROM, its fairly easy to start with. Ofcourse you need to Root your phone first. (lots of guides on forum just search)
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Hey, im sorry if I used the wrong term (hack) but I am not knowledgable in this field. I was wondering though what benefits there are to using "custom roms" (I think thats right).
The main complaint with my Desire is the extreme lack of internal memory and slow software updates from telus (froyo and honeycomb for example in case I used the wrong term again). If either of these issues could be fixed from hacking my Desire (primarily the memory one) I would more then likely go through with it. (I have 15 mb of free memory and its a Huge annoyance)
You see, I hacked my psp back in the day because I could play games for free , get cutom themes and all that cool stuff. I was wondering what special things you can do with a "custom OS".
Im sorry if I said anything wrong, blatantly obvious or if this topic has been made before. I just want my phone to be all it can be, thanks a million and all the best.
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Yeah, you can "fix" your main complaints rooting your phone and installing a Custom ROM. The lack of internal memory can be fixed using App2SD+ or a clean AOSP ROM (like Oxygen, my current ROM) and a custom HBOOT partition (giving less space to the /system partition and a lot more space to /data). Of course, in this case you lost HTC Sense, but if you really like Sense just search for App2SD+. And Custom ROMs are updated a lot more than oficial, you can already have Gingerbread on your Desire and even Honeycomb (early and broke port, but it's getting better).
And a rooted phone is way more fun IMHO. You can use some great apps that will never work without root (like Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, ROM Manager, ShootMe, SetCPU etc) and you can do almost anything to the system. It's great.

Joshua3109 said:
Hey, im sorry if I used the wrong term (hack) but I am not knowledgable in this field. I was wondering though what benefits there are to using "custom roms" (I think thats right).
The main complaint with my Desire is the extreme lack of internal memory and slow software updates from telus (froyo and honeycomb for example in case I used the wrong term again). If either of these issues could be fixed from hacking my Desire (primarily the memory one) I would more then likely go through with it. (I have 15 mb of free memory and its a Huge annoyance)
You see, I hacked my psp back in the day because I could play games for free , get cutom themes and all that cool stuff. I was wondering what special things you can do with a "custom OS".
Im sorry if I said anything wrong, blatantly obvious or if this topic has been made before. I just want my phone to be all it can be, thanks a million and all the best.
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There isn't a single Desire running an official version of Honeycomb so you're not missing out there. 2.2 is out on Telus now so really don't know what you're on about!!
Anyway, yes a custom ROM is good but it's not the be all and end all. I've got over my ROM-flashing days and now only change when something is worth switching for. Otherwise I use my own ROM. That way I can add/remove what I want and not what someone else thinks I should be using
Read up a lot, ask questions (if you can't find answers) and don't let others dictate what you do. Root it because YOU want to, not because everyone says to

I unrooted my Desire recently, i realised that i dont need root anymore.
Froyo A2SD is good enough for me and i prefer Sense. Currently im waiting for the GingerSense update that ships in June. The leaked Saga ROM looks very promising - it even has a build in notification power widget.
You could use a GoldCard do debrand if you dont want to wait for Telus to push OTA updates.

The simple answer, in my humble opinion, is root your phone! I agree with the comment before mine and you should only mod your phone if your want to and are happy to tinker with it. Like the old days playing with PSP's and the like all mods carry risks of bricking but most answers I needed were in this forum somewhere. I have never regretted rooted my Desire and have helped several friends do theirs. Along the way I've tried different roms and made a few mistakes but I now enjoy my phone more than when I first got it. For rooting I would recommend searching out unRevoked it's one click rooting is brilliant although make sure you have the right adb drivers for your computer before starting! I first started with LeeDroid as the Apps to SD Card is already implemented for you so very little fiddling to do, you will need to be able to partition your SD card to use this function tho but you sound like you have some base knowledge so that shouldn't be too tricky. I'm now using GingerVillain 1.6 and love it, its quick smooth and meets all MY needs it might not be the one for you tho. Biggest tip? Read research and ask before starting anything there's normally someone out there that has done or about to do whatever you're thinking of so find out first before pressing enter and swearing for several hours!

[Q] Will rooting to 2.3 disable htcsense.com?

Hi! I got my shiny new Desire HD yesterday (upgraded from an iphone) and by god do I love it, just perfect for me.
Although with it comes a lot of.. junk that I simply do not need (scrolling through a good 30 apps just to get to my most used), plus I heard that 2.3 (Specifically Cyanogenmod 7) brings with it better battery, better performance and with it being rooted, more features.
I'm looking to root it as soon as possible before I start putting a lot of things on it, rather than do a lot with it now and then have to do it again a couple months down the road.
My main question is, I love htcsense.com and I love the extra features it gives me, especially being able to track the phone, gives me much needed peace of mind, if I root to a 2.3 ROM (probably cm7) will htcsense.com no longer work?
Thankyou for any/all replies, oh and a little quickie at the end, I'm planning to go with cm7 because it seems the most basic and customizable for my needs, and battery life is a huge plus for me as I'm planning to use this beauty in and around college, is cm7 a good idea?
Thank you and have a great day.

If that HTC feature relies on having the app on the phone then it wont work as CM7 is not a Sense ROM and contains no sense applications.
Neither do I believe simply installing the apk, if possible, would work.
Be nice to be wrong though.
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Ahh, so in short, no?
Fair enough, is there a way to install the part needed for it to work after rooting it with cm7?

Probably not. Again, hope I'm wrong because it is a great utility that would otherwise cost you (Wavesecure app for example and I believe one of the anti-virus apps provides same functionality).
If anyone has the apk I'd happily try it but IIRC the apps rely on the Sense framework.
Bear with me, just checking this out.
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Confirmed. Without the apk installed the phone can't communicate with the HTC servers.
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Hi there,
i've recently rooted my Desire HD (and upgraded to 2.3.3) & I can tell you that HTCsense still works. No idea about if it still works on non-sense roms such as CM7 or not.
I've been using RCMix and Android Revolution roms in the past week & both of them are a lot better than the stock Froyo that my phone came with though.

Did a search and found an apk but it is confirmed that it will not run on AOSP ROMs such as Cyanogenmod.
The only option you have would be to run a Sense based ROM then install something like ADW.Launcher which has categorised app drawer (meaning you can choose what apps appear).
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Thankyou for the replies you've really helped.
Does sense rom mean, a rom that has HTC sense enabled? I assume it does.
Also, if I want to get 2.3+ android with sense so I can use the htcsense.com service, which rom would be best to root too? I've only ever heard of cm7, that's about it.
Thanks again!

Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!

h3dfuk said:
Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!
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Does it improve the battery life at all?
Oh also, is it easy to change back to the original ROM that came with the phone in-case of any warranty issues? Coredroid just doesn't look as.. polished as cyanogen, I could be completely wrong though.
If so, I'll root it today! Love the community by the way, I can't say anything bad about the iPhone community really, although they seem to care a lot less.
Does rooting to an Android 2.3 ROM bring everything that normal Android 2.3 brings and then depending on the ROM, special things? So it doesn't matter what ROM I get that's 2.3 they'll all have 2.3 Android features?

Do a backup in Tom manager in case you want to go back to your previous rom. Coredroid is a very fast rom IMO, but its dependent on how you use it much like any other rom really.
batery life is better than stock but again you will need to be mindful of gps and wifi etc. An awesome gingerbread kernel to improve battery life does not yet exist.

Fantastic, I'll give CoreDroid a try then, thankyou for your help, you've been very useful and informative.
One last thing before I begin the process, what is Tom manager? I did a quick google search and a look into the market but found nothing, did you mean Rom manager?

my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.

h3dfuk said:
my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.
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Ahh, I got it and I'm trying to backup my current ROM but I need to install "clockwordmod recovery" and whenever I try I get a "An error occurred while attempting to run privilged commands!" which is a shame.
Oh, and is there an up-to-date guide on how to root? Pardon my ignorance.

You need root first.
There's several "how to's" in the development forum. More information than we could put here (or should).

Sorry, I'm being incredibly silly, I keep getting ROM's and rooting mixed up, I'm in the process of rooting it now then I'll install a ROM, I haven't decided which yet but I might.. shop around, sorta speak.
Thanks for the help guys, take care.

Because sense apps aren't running in background, Cyanogen should be less stressful on the battery. However stock roms are usually not developed to maximize battery life in the same way custom roms are (afterall, battery life is a bugbear for developers too!). With this in mind, Coredroid even with sense is still better on your battery life than stock sense. Its all dependent on how you use it though (turn off GPS and wifi when no longer required etc..). Intensive use will naturally drain your battery sooner than conservative use. If you find battery life a pain with any rom, you could try juice defender free to automatically regulate consumption of battery.
Best advice, try a number of mods every week or so, and settle on one you like once you've experienced them. You souls also download battery calibrator from market and use after every flash to help you with the battery.

After a little soulsearching I'm going to give RCMixHD a try, it seems very popular which is usually a good sign, it has sense 3.0 and 2.3.3 Android so it's practically perfect.
The only thing I'm puzzled by now is "radios" I've worked out that they determine call reception and 3G+HSPDA whatnots, but do I actually need a new one before/after flashing to a new ROM? There seems to be a lot of radios out there and I have no clue which to go with and what they do.

Oh, also, does overclocking your phone as you have done have a huge impact on the battery life? I assume it has atleast some impact.

Only certain roms currently support overclocking, with some having the ability only after a kernel flash. CM7.0.2 however comes with ability without need to install anything else. You will need SetCPU to overclock and select a governor to regulate how power is maintained. You need to set minimum frequency when phone is idle etc.. It's easier than it sounds but do read into the overclocking threads for dhd we have here if in any doubt.

[Q] reason to move to cm7

hello everybody
I am totally a noob as you say. i have a defy officialy updated to 2.2.2; since then i have some lag and reboot. in the french forum i have been advised to move to cm7 to avoid such pb. they give me links and tutorials, but it seems very hard to me to go ahead, i roughly succed in recording apk in the sd cards.
they try to help me nicely, but i feel totaly lost moreover with this strange vocabulary you use
this is why i am wondering if it is a good thing for me and the use i have of the defy to try to upgrade it.
basically, i read my emails, skype friends, facebook, read ebooks and take pictures and video of my sons i don't feel any probs with motoblur, don't play game or video or other stuffs like that.
even now, i am writing with my laptop .
i am pissed off when it reboot but it isn't not the end of the world.
what cm7 could bring to sb like me ?
thanks for your help

I do not use the Defy, but it sounds like you are happy with your phone. CM7 streamlines a lot of
unwanted and imo unneeded apps (and lots more really) from your phone. If you are satisfied with your phone's performance I see no need to do anything. I do however use CM7 and love the less is more feel and MUCH better performance.
Read the forums to decide what is best for your own needs.
Cheers
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Hmmm...if y you are new to rooting, flashing and using recovery and is not adventurous, then I suggest to stay with froyo as of now especially if you don't have the time or a spare phone. But if you really want a faster (case to case), good on battery( case to case), beingconstantly updated phone, then change to cm7.
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This is really a nice qn
I have used official eclair froyo miui cm7
cm7 is not so gud in customizations.
They give some hardware acceleration and you will not find much of lags on that gingerbread UI.
For looks, i recommend u to use Launcher pro . I am using it with cm7 and the combination is perfect.
U can definitely move to cm7 latest nightly.If u want good camera then u can move to milestone 2 rom.

On the contrary, CM7 is heavy customizable. Lots of features. I suggest you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798 and the CM7 thread for the latest Google Apps and Cm7. It's not that hard to install, actually it's really easy if you follow their steps.
You can use ADW/ Launcher pro or GO launcher. I personally use Go Launcher and i like it, doesn't crash, loads fast.
You can PM me if you want help in upgrading. Why keep your smartphone on 2.2 when you can unleash it's full potential with 2.3.4. Another reason is apps support, everything works on Gingerbread but not everything on Froyo, Hardware is much more faster ( download Quadrant Standard from the market) i get 2200-2400 . Browsing, doc reading/editing is much smoother. Better battery and the list could go on.
Oh, andf Nightlies are for testing... RC0/RC1 are stable versions to use.

romuloxiii said:
I do not use the Defy, but it sounds like you are happy with your phone. CM7 streamlines a lot of
unwanted and imo unneeded apps (and lots more really) from your phone. If you are satisfied with your phone's performance I see no need to do anything. I do however use CM7 and love the less is more feel and MUCH better performance.
Read the forums to decide what is best for your own needs.
Cheers
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yes, i was happy, except with th lags and reboots i meet since i updated it to froyo, but it isn"t so bad
salingpusa said:
Hmmm...if y you are new to rooting, flashing and using recovery and is not adventurous, then I suggest to stay with froyo as of now especially if you don't have the time or a spare phone. But if you really want a faster (case to case), good on battery( case to case), beingconstantly updated phone, then change to cm7.
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i think your are true, the gain i can havve compares to my use are very low, better stay and crossing my finger for an official upgrading
Deonix said:
On the contrary, CM7 is heavy customizable. Lots of features. I suggest you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798 and the CM7 thread for the latest Google Apps and Cm7. It's not that hard to install, actually it's really easy if you follow their steps.
You can use ADW/ Launcher pro or GO launcher. I personally use Go Launcher and i like it, doesn't crash, loads fast.
You can PM me if you want help in upgrading. Why keep your smartphone on 2.2 when you can unleash it's full potential with 2.3.4. Another reason is apps support, everything works on Gingerbread but not everything on Froyo, Hardware is much more faster ( download Quadrant Standard from the market) i get 2200-2400 . Browsing, doc reading/editing is much smoother. Better battery and the list could go on.
Oh, andf Nightlies are for testing... RC0/RC1 are stable versions to use.
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i had a quick look at the tutorial for noob and it is clearly easier than thr one i read before.
finally i will keep this version but i will keep on reding here, as i am very nosey i will certainely jump the gap one day.
thanks for all your replies and explanation

Had cm7 on my SGS got my defy and knew it had 200mhz less processor but otbwas very laggy needed restarting loads lots of force close. Opening Google maps was a joke.
Installed cm7 all better now and it removed the 800mhz underclock so now rocking a 1ghz and it works better then my SGS. Did some quick boot tests, opened a few apps defy was quicker then the SGS and the iPhone 3gs
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I suggest you to read this thread. People around here usually talk about pros of CM7 (and custom ROMs in general), but you have to be aware that there are certain cons also.

Japro said:
I suggest you to read this thread. People around here usually talk about pros of CM7 (and custom ROMs in general), but you have to be aware that there are certain cons also.
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thanks,
after an attentive look at it, it seems that most probs are on camera and as it is a main use of my defy i will stay with official froyo.
thanks guys

I had some reboots and issues too after updating to official froyo. They were all gone after doing a complete wipe.
If you have many apps installed and stuff on your phone, root your phone using SuperOneClick (is really, REALLY easy.. click, click rooted) and install Titanium Backup. Save all your apps and do a complete Wipe.
After that, your phone should be working perfectly. To do this wipe, with the phone turned off, hold Volume Down and turn it on (while still holding V. Down) at the triangle screen press at the same time Vol up and Vol Down. There you will see the options to Clear Cache and Delete User data.
You could also try only wiping cache, it wont delete any information on your phone, but might fix issues (No rooting or anything special needed for this)
Hope it helps~

Zephyrot' s post speaks true. See if you can't fix the issues with a factory reset / cache clear
For the first few months I didn't want to really root my phone or flash it as I was expecting ear piece problem. When I finally took the plunge I wanted a rom that removed motoblur, it's launcher and almost everything else so I could configure it myself from market apps and always have the latest versions.
This lead me not to CM7 - which is also rather bloated and still rather buggy when i last tried the nightlies it 2 weeks ago - but Barebones: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977989
I installed 1.5.1 after flashing the nordic 2.2.2. I have never been happier.
I have now updated to 1.5.6 + the update.zip for market fixes - used Titanium backup *root* to transfer my apps and settings. I replaced the zoom launcher with launcherPro, milestone overclock to 1100 at 65vsel (after some testing with lower / higher settings).
Finally it was a blurless, bare rom that has the pure minimum as a base and all else can be added via the market afterwards.

Advantages :
its 2.3.4
highly customizable
gr8 performance
lots of options under cyanogenmod settings
mobile will be fully flexible
rest all feature u will come to know only when u try it
all the best

[Q] Are the relatively newer ROMS too heavy for Desire Z ?

Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !

Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!

demkantor said:
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..

d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM

just full wipe and reflash the rom

d_gkal said:
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?

If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....

Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.

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If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?

For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?

Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.

Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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alexnh said:
I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.

tarroyo said:
It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.

Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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