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Rooting with Visonary 14 killed me phone

I didnt think this was possible but I think I bricked my phone by using Visionary and permroot.
I clicked on the permroot, the icon went on, rebooted and got stuck at the HTC green screen.
After pulling the battery;
I tried doing a factory reset, nothing.
I tried a stock image of tmobile, nothing (at least I think I did this right)
ADB doesnt recognize the device in windows
I have only seen a red triangle and exclamation point after trying several posts suggestions.
I'm stuck on what to do, and have a replacement coming, but not soon enough.
Can I do anything with this? Like get the original Tmobile image back on? If so, how? I'm not the brightest bulb when it comes to this, as the g1 was so much easier. A bit of instructions would be great.
Thank you!

People have been warned about visionary's high chance of bricking over and over again and that they should just use the rage method but they can't seem to get it.
Also: you do realize that the nand lock was to prevent this exact thing: people bricking their phones then returning them hoping to get them replaced. If it doesn't get replaced then you full well deserve it for not reading the countless posts about people bricking their phones using visionary.
First off: are you s-off?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

You didn't read the post which said you should not try to install the stock rom?
fastludeh22 said:
Ok mods, I know this normally isn't the place, but I think this is very important as I'm seeing more and more semi bricks, some of which are not recoverable without HTC signing keys!
So I ask you mods, please don't lock this, if anything it really needs to be a sticky!
That being said, if you are s-off, do NOT flash the signed offical PC10IMG.zip. if you don't have the correct rom on there when you do, as per the unroot thread you will get stuck.
Let me give u an example of what I've been seeing and why its happening so everyone understands. Example: you perm root/s-off your phone. You decide to do some rom playing. You end up boot looping and can't fully boot into android. So u say hey, ill reload pc10 and start over, WRONG.
What happens is s-off does no checks, sigs, version number etc. So when you load it up it starts to flash. Hboot(s-on) is first, then recovery, then radio. Thing is it has to reboot to do radio, so it reboots, at this point your s-on so it does a version check. "Main is older" then it quits before ever touching the system.img or boot.img. at this point you are locked. You have s-on, stock recovery, and can't boot android. Long story short, your screwed.
Now depending on the rom/kernel u had/have installed you may have adb access. At this point you have a small chance of recovering, which is better then some. I just spent the last 5 hours working with someone on a fix and think we got it, but the bat has died and will have to pick back up tomo. If this works or not, I also have one more idea we can try. I will update OP with any fixes we find.
*If your system was bootable when you started this, it may still boot. but you will be s-on, stock recovery, and still on whatever rom you were running. at this point you will have to hex edit to downgrade, or wpthis.ko if there is one for your kernel to get back to s-off.
*ive seen some people saying. i did it, it worked for me, but don't add any supporting info. this is bad for people new to android cause it makes them feel they will be ok. the only way this can work is if you have a version installed as old or older then the official img, or if you take hboot out of the update which then makes it no longer the official update. but my question is why are you flashing this? if you want to fully unroot, then follow the unroot guide. if you just want to go back to stock w/root, grab one of the stock w/root roms.
Long story short, do your rom flashing from recovery. Stay out of hboot unless you are following proven instructions to a T, or being walked though be a "pro". I hope this helps save some people!
* if you just read all this going DAMN, i already did that, then go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
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@ddgarcia05 - that should be ok if he wasn't at S-OFF with the eng hboot though, which I don't believe that Visionary applies.

ibemad1 said:
People have been warned about visionary's high chance of bricking over and over again and that they should just use the rage method but they can't seem to get it.
Also: you do realize that the nand lock was to prevent this exact thing: people bricking their phones then returning them hoping to get them replaced. If it doesn't get replaced then you full well deserve it for not reading the countless posts about people bricking their phones using visionary.
First off: are you s-off?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
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I checked and it said S-On and this was in recovery

ddgarcia05 said:
You didn't read the post which said you should not try to install the stock rom?
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ADB doesnt recognize the device in windows and this was also in recovery

Anyone? Bueller?

cwis said:
ADB doesnt recognize the device in windows and this was also in recovery
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Check out the adb guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
If you install the HTC Sync software, as mentioned in that guide, that should give you the drivers that you need.

This looks bad. Being that you're new. this can be very bad.
You have three choices:
1: study each thread about Bricking G2.
2:find a more experienced person to help you unbrick your phone.
3:find a very strong magnet and place it on your phone leave it there for an hour and bring it back.

Confirm that I bricked my phone please?

... before i shell out for another phone because I'm an idiot.
Anyway, I'd been doing some reading and had a thin history of rooting with my G1 which went rather well.(in that I never bricked it)
I did the same with my phone now, the G2. I got it when it first came out, got comfortable with it and finally decided to root it. I guess I didn't do enough research because I used Visionary to root and I believe I am now bricked. I have been up and down the forums for a solution or even a confirmation that I'm bricked for the last 4 hours. I kid you not. I even went into different phone sections in case I found something that could help but zilch.
So yell at me for not doing enough research and reading before i started rooting, but don't yell about this same question being asked over and over again.
Anyways, I can only get to the first white "HTC" screen and freezes.
I can get to HBOOT and that says:
Vision PVT SHIP S-ON
H-Boot-0.02.0000
Microp-0425
Radio-26.03.02.26_M
cMMC-boot
HBOOT
If I try to go to recovery it goes to that little black phone with the red traingle.
If I try to go to factory reset it goes to a green circle with a load bar that just looks like it's working but then it goes back to the white HTC screen and stays.
I have SDK and even though my computer recognizes that an Android 1.0 device is attached, when I "adb devices", nothing is listed.
So what's my diagnoses pros?
Thanks for any help or any response at all in advance.
Dea.

Its not looking good my friend, what exactly have you done to your phone so far?
If it is stuck in a boot loop and you have S-on the only possible thing you can to do fix it is flash the stock PC10IMG, but this will only work if you had the pre-OTA rom on your phone 1.19 and I really doubt that you did. If you had the wifi calling app you had the OTA 1.22 rom not the 1.19 rom. Trying to flash the stock PC10IMG onto your phone if it had the OTA rom 1.22 will cause it to do exactly what is happening now.

There's a file called "pc10img.zip" (the default firmware) that can be placed in the root of your SD, and should automatically be detected and offer to start flashing. I think this is how I recovered my phone which was in a similar state. Someone here could probably link you to the proper file (I'm sure there's different versions for DZ and G2). Good luck...I think you can probably save it.
I'm pretty sure mine was doing the same thing yours is, and I'm happily rockin' CM7 now, and loving it more than ever.

@joemm, Well I had 1.22 on there since I remember having wifi calling. I know you advised me not to but I might look into the PC10img.zip just because it can't get much worse than this honestly.
@hexapus, thanks for the advise. I'll have to look for my sdcard adapter first though. can't seem to find it at the mo'.
And when it does its sd card check on HBOOT, by the way, it says that all the files it wants to load, it says "No image!"

dealunae said:
And when it does its sd card check on HBOOT, by the way, it says that all the files it wants to load, it says "No image!"
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Thats because its looking for the file named PC10IMG.zip, this is the only file name it will load and it must be on the root of your sdcard.
Check your PM i will message you right now.

This is a link to a page containing instructions for a manual update to 1.22 and a link to the update.zip. Maybe this will work if all else fails by applying the OTA update again.
http://www.talkandroid.com/20232-tutorial-manually-update-t-mobile-g2-remove-google-goggles/

You might be able to hex edit the pc10img.zip so it thinks its version 1.22.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

I also had this same issue, in that I tried visionary and had the same issue. I took mine to the tmobile store and let try to fix it, which they couldn't, and when they asked me what happened I said I was uninstalling an app that was a live screen because it was acting werid. Because I was still under warrenty they help me get a new one sent to me.
Worked out for me, now I read and read and read more. I am rooted via rage and gfree but still run stock.
Good luck
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Well, everyone, after further button pushing, it looks like I can get into stock recovery. Should I do a wipe and flash a manual update of 1.22? The only reason I ask at this point is that if I try to do this, fail and then try to get it replaced, they might see that I tried to root and not replace it. (I have insurance as well btw.)

dealunae said:
Well, everyone, after further button pushing, it looks like I can get into stock recovery. Should I do a wipe and flash a manual update of 1.22? The only reason I ask at this point is that if I try to do this, fail and then try to get it replaced, they might see that I tried to root and not replace it. (I have insurance as well btw.)
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The link I gave to you above has some great instructions on applying the manual update again. In my opinion its your best option at this point. BTW I have insurance too. I'm always worried that I might lose my phone!

It won't let you apply the 1.22 update zip because it is not a full rom, people have tried before and it doesn't work, but I guess like you said what have you got to lose.
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joemm said:
It won't let you apply the 1.22 update zip because it is not a full rom, people have tried before and it doesn't work, but I guess like you said what have you got to lose.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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joe, check out the second part of that link I provided above. The part about those with the google goggles fix. Do you think that would be a good second choice? I don't know if the OP knows how to do a fastboot flash, but it seems like it is more comprehensive. Do you think that it would reverse the effects of the Visionary perm root attempt?

EdKeys said:
joe, check out the second part of that link I provided above. The part about those with the google goggles fix. Do you think that would be a good second choice? I don't know if the OP knows how to do a fastboot flash, but it seems like it is more comprehensive. Do you think that it would reverse the effects of the Visionary perm root attempt?
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At this point for him I don't see how its gonna hurt to try, but in my experiences in this forum I have not seen anyone able to flash the update 1.22 .zip after being stuck in a S-On Bootloop. Its either gonna work or it wont let him flash it at all, so I really cant see how it could hurt to try. As far as the 1.19 rom it wont let him flash it because it will give a error that the main version is older.

EdKeys said:
The link I gave to you above has some great instructions on applying the manual update again. In my opinion its your best option at this point. BTW I have insurance too. I'm always worried that I might lose my phone!
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yea. It's how I realized I could still get into recovery. Thanks for the link. I'm at work right now so I won't be able to work on it till later but Wish me luck!

dealunae said:
yea. It's how I realized I could still get into recovery. Thanks for the link. I'm at work right now so I won't be able to work on it till later but Wish me luck!
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OK, good luck! I hope that it, or something else, eventually works for you. Keep us updated....

So ended up getting a new phone. An htc g2. (sigh) I still really want to to root but am not officially terrified. ha. Looks like a lot of research and reading is in my future.

dealunae said:
So ended up getting a new phone. An htc g2. (sigh) I still really want to to root but am not officially terrified. ha. Looks like a lot of research and reading is in my future.
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Lol... no need aha. If you have the basic concept of rooting you should be fine. Of course u just follow each step for rooting. Wish u luck
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk

You didn't fix the old one? The pc10img fix almost certainly would have cleared it all up.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Urgent questions about Root + S-off

Hey guys,
I am currently coming from a HTC Desire HD and am planning on picking up a One X tomorrow from a guy who got it with his phone contract.
It's about two months old and simlock free.
I cannot seem to find an answer to some really urgent questions I am having now..
From what I've read it is much harder (or impossible?) to succesfully root and S-off the device then for example on my HTC desire HD?
Is this true? I would like to use the ARHD rom but I am not sure now if I can make it work without being stuck on one ROM or not having any custom roms at all.
Can someone please explain to me what is really the situation with the One X currently.
is it possible to root and s-off so I can flash different roms? and are there any other relevant things I should know?
I'm hoping on a quick answer before I pull the trigger and buy a One X
Thanks a million for anyone helping me out here!
:fingers-crossed::good:

benno4403 said:
Hey guys,
I am currently coming from a HTC Desire HD and am planning on picking up a One X tomorrow from a guy who got it with his phone contract.
It's about two months old and simlock free.
I cannot seem to find an answer to some really urgent questions I am having now..
From what I've read it is much harder (or impossible?) to succesfully root and S-off the device then for example on my HTC desire HD?
Is this true? I would like to use the ARHD rom but I am not sure now if I can make it work without being stuck on one ROM or not having any custom roms at all.
Can someone please explain to me what is really the situation with the One X currently.
is it possible to root and s-off so I can flash different roms? and are there any other relevant things I should know?
I'm hoping on a quick answer before I pull the trigger and buy a One X
Thanks a million for anyone helping me out here!
:fingers-crossed::good:
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root= yes
s-off= no but being worked on by 2 brilliant dev's (at least them 2 if not more?)
You can flash different roms yes but would need to see which action is needed for each rom, i.e some need cache etc wiped blah blah blah

Zinta said:
root= yes
s-off= no but being worked on by 2 brilliant dev's (at least them 2 if not more?)
You can flash different roms yes but would need to see which action is needed for each rom, i.e some need cache etc wiped blah blah blah
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hmm.. still a little confused here but I appreciate your help! :good:. how can it be possible to flash/install custom ROMS when the phone is still S-ON?
Do you only need root acces then? and I guess you cannot just flash .zip files like from a custom recovery (like 4EXT recovery) like I did it on my Desire HD or can I?
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me

benno4403 said:
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
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The bit where you can make it look like you never had a custom ROM and recovery installed.
On htcdev.com, there is an unlock method, but HTC have been known to invalidate their warranty for unlocked phones.
Your statutory rights are not affected, but it you'd have to go back to the retailer with problems (at least in the UK)

benno4403 said:
hmm.. still a little confused here but I appreciate your help! :good:. how can it be possible to flash/install custom ROMS when the phone is still S-ON?
Do you only need root acces then? and I guess you cannot just flash .zip files like from a custom recovery (like 4EXT recovery) like I did it on my Desire HD or can I?
What part are we essentially missing right now with the Security being on?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can make this clear to me
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When son you have to flash the boot.IMG for the ROMs using the computer. That means every time you want to flash a new ROM you have to use a computer also.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX

First of all,
Thanks a lot to everyone who have been answering my questions.
Okay so if I read and understand everything correctly it is still relatively simple to install custom roms but I need a computer everytime I install a new ROM and HTC can see there was a custom recovery and ROM installed. (and this will possibly void my warranty)
Is that the right way of summarizing this or is there more?
and.. do you guys think there will ever be a S-OFF option?
Thanks in advance:good:

benno4403 said:
First of all,
Thanks a lot to everyone who have been answering my questions.
Okay so if I read and understand everything correctly it is still relatively simple to install custom roms but I need a computer everytime I install a new ROM and HTC can see there was a custom recovery and ROM installed. (and this will possibly void my warranty)
Is that the right way of summarizing this or is there more?
and.. do you guys think there will ever be a S-OFF option?
Thanks in advance:good:
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Yup, you got it all right. S-off is gonna be released for sure, just don't know when.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX

Tingelholm said:
Yup, you got it all right. S-off is gonna be released for sure, just don't know when.
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
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Okay. thanks
I hope we might see a S-OFF for the one x in the near future then!
so to be clear, when I receive my phone tomorrow and want to install a custom ROM (for example android revolution)
I need to:
1. Root the phone
2. Install a custom recovery (like clockworkmod)
3. and then what?
because the description in the Android Revolution ROM topics states:
" You need:
HTC One X unlocked with htcdev.com (S-ON) or S-OFF <-- but I do not have to unlock it via htcdev to be able to install it?
ClockworkMod Recovery or 4EXT Touch Recovery (coming soon)
Firmware package from downloads section" <-- and does he mean by firmware package just ROM or?
sorry for all these questions but I am new to the One X and this other procedures
Thanks for the help and patience

You need htcdev unlock for permanent root.
Then you flash clockworkmod, take a backup and flash Rom and kernel (boot.img).

BenPope said:
You need htcdev unlock for permanent root.
Then you flash clockworkmod, take a backup and flash Rom and kernel (boot.img).
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Okay thanks, much clearer now.
aren't there any manuals or guides for this? I tried to find something detailed but I could not find it.

benno4403 said:
Okay thanks, much clearer now.
aren't there any manuals or guides for this? I tried to find something detailed but I could not find it.
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Check out YouTube. Cursed4Eva have some good tutorials, that's what I used when I unlocked my HOX
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX

Tingelholm said:
Check out YouTube. Cursed4Eva have some good tutorials, that's what I used when I unlocked my HOX
Sent from my fauxed HOX running ViperX
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Okay thanks, I will check it out.

...or u take a look at THIS

Just so you know, once you unlock the bootloader there is no going back. You can relock it but it will show RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. So HTC will always know, and they can deny warranty claims if they chose to do so.

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Just so you know, once you unlock the bootloader there is no going back. You can relock it but it will show RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. So HTC will always know, and they can deny warranty claims if they chose to do so.
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I think that only warranty connected with software not hardware
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Don't root it today use it for a few days quite a few devices have had issues out of the box if test it first,
The warranty thing is all hearsay we have no fact I've heard several people get their phones fixed/replaced htc are legally obliged to stick to their warranty especially if it is a hardware fault. Not 100% sure on where we stand but htc can't just cancel our consumer rights
Sent from my HTC One CMX

Okay guys just received my one x.. so some of you suggest to wait before unlocking, rooting and flashing? (Just to test hardware or wait for soff?)
So are there many 'problem' phones?
Thanks guys
Sent from my Desire HD using xda app-developers app

I modded mine to my liking almost immediately, never looked back.

EDIT: Nevermind: got the token to work was something on the HTCDEV website

whynot66 said:
Don't root it today use it for a few days quite a few devices have had issues out of the box if test it first,
The warranty thing is all hearsay we have no fact I've heard several people get their phones fixed/replaced htc are legally obliged to stick to their warranty especially if it is a hardware fault. Not 100% sure on where we stand but htc can't just cancel our consumer rights
Sent from my HTC One CMX
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It's like this: There are statutory rights. In addition to that there is a warranty. HTC are perfectly within their right to cancel a warranty, but your statutory rights continue.
In the UK, in practice, your rights are with the retailer, unless you purchased it on credit, in which case they stand with the finance company (in theory, but as a matter of practicality, hit up the retailer first).
Oh, IANAL.

Problems trying to gain s-off with Firewater

I've been wanting to try a custom ROM on my Verizon m8. I have used weaksauce to gain root access and just recently got adb up and running thanks to you fine folks (I was having some driver issues). My next step is to gain s-off and I downloaded firewater and followed the instructions. I'm able to get all the way to final step "/data/local/tmp/firewater" and nothing happens. Firewater does not run. Anybody have any ideas why? Thanks a ton, I'm new to this and have learned a lot from the forums.

Are you making sure to wait for weaksauce to regain root before running the su command? Either way, firewater is probably not going to work for you, as it's now out of date. The current working exploit is sunshine, which is a commercial application and will cost $25. But so far, they've been well spent for me!

Flylowguy said:
Are you making sure to wait for weaksauce to regain root before running the su command? Either way, firewater is probably not going to work for you, as it's now out of date. The current working exploit is sunshine, which is a commercial application and will cost $25. But so far, they've been well spent for me!
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I redownloaded firewater and it worked fine. I'm now s-off and have twrp installed. Next stop new Rom. Any suggestions as to which one to try?
Thanks again guys. Appreciate it.

I want to try Android Revolution HD on mine, but can't get it to flash. If you try that one and it works I'd be interested to know...

If you go the AOSP route, CM11 M9 is butter. PA is great as well.
Sent from my One M8 using XDA Free mobile app

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If you go the AOSP route, CM11 M9 is butter. PA is great as well.
Sent from my One M8 using XDA Free mobile app
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I started off with Viper. I really like it so far. Thanks again!

[Q] S-Off achievable on newest H-Boot and OTA?

I just got my M8 yesterday after running over my previous phone, and immediately started looking into s-off and root. Am I screwed with the 4.4.3 update when it comes to s-off, because it seems like firewater won't work. Is there a different exploit that works? I couldn't find anything searching. My apologizes about the noobness, I'm always like this when I first get a new device. Many thanks in advance, sorry for any errors grammar-wise, I'm on my phone.

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I just got my M8 yesterday after running over my previous phone, and immediately started looking into s-off and root. Am I screwed with the 4.4.3 update when it comes to s-off, because it seems like firewater won't work. Is there a different exploit that works? I couldn't find anything searching. My apologizes about the noobness, I'm always like this when I first get a new device. Many thanks in advance, sorry for any errors grammar-wise, I'm on my phone.
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You need to use Sunshine. It costs $25 and not transferrable to a different phone, but it is worth it IMHO.
http://theroot.ninja/

FreydNot said:
You need to use Sunshine. It costs $25 and not transferrable to a different phone, but it is worth it IMHO.
http://theroot.ninja/
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Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?

themacman1000 said:
Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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I did, then I must have done something wrong. had a pretty constant reboot problem. Ended up buying S-Off and flashing GPE ruu.

phil.culler said:
I did, then I must have done something wrong. had a pretty constant reboot problem. Ended up buying S-Off and flashing GPE ruu.
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Sweet, thank you very much. I'm just a bit tight after buying this phone and having a 1k mile road trip this week. Good to know I can get my root on.

I just did the same thing I love it no more sense or HTC preventing me from running the latest software

themacman1000 said:
Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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Correct, but I preferred to get S-off with sunshine then root and unlock the bootloader without having to get the HTC developer unlock. This way HTC doesn't have any record of the bootloader being unlocked.