I was s-off and bootloader unlocked before sending it in but they must have replaced something major to change that... Do we have anything to get s-off and unlock the bootloader on the latest update or am I stuck with stock? Thanks!
stuck with stock until an new exploit is release. i am in the same boat
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stuck with stock until an new exploit is release. i am in the same boat
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Me too. Currently the best hope appears to be the sunfire exploit. seems like jcase and beaups are currently working on an exploit and have published a lot of them previously. but nothing at the moment. I believe that you may be able to get temp root from a version of towelroot but the kernel exploits that were previously used, rumrunner, etc. are not compatible with the new kernel in 4.4.2 aka Sense 6.0.
At least that's what I have been able to determine from skimming over these forums. :good:
by sunfire do you mean sunshine? i'd gladly pay for it if it works with the m7 with 4.4.2 and sense 6. i miss AOSP
d0m_ said:
by sunfire do you mean sunshine? i'd gladly pay for it if it works with the m7 with 4.4.2 and sense 6. i miss AOSP
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That's my main thing too, I really grew to like aosp on the one...
I've been wanting to try a custom ROM on my Verizon m8. I have used weaksauce to gain root access and just recently got adb up and running thanks to you fine folks (I was having some driver issues). My next step is to gain s-off and I downloaded firewater and followed the instructions. I'm able to get all the way to final step "/data/local/tmp/firewater" and nothing happens. Firewater does not run. Anybody have any ideas why? Thanks a ton, I'm new to this and have learned a lot from the forums.
Are you making sure to wait for weaksauce to regain root before running the su command? Either way, firewater is probably not going to work for you, as it's now out of date. The current working exploit is sunshine, which is a commercial application and will cost $25. But so far, they've been well spent for me!
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Are you making sure to wait for weaksauce to regain root before running the su command? Either way, firewater is probably not going to work for you, as it's now out of date. The current working exploit is sunshine, which is a commercial application and will cost $25. But so far, they've been well spent for me!
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I redownloaded firewater and it worked fine. I'm now s-off and have twrp installed. Next stop new Rom. Any suggestions as to which one to try?
Thanks again guys. Appreciate it.
I want to try Android Revolution HD on mine, but can't get it to flash. If you try that one and it works I'd be interested to know...
If you go the AOSP route, CM11 M9 is butter. PA is great as well.
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If you go the AOSP route, CM11 M9 is butter. PA is great as well.
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I started off with Viper. I really like it so far. Thanks again!
I just got my M8 yesterday after running over my previous phone, and immediately started looking into s-off and root. Am I screwed with the 4.4.3 update when it comes to s-off, because it seems like firewater won't work. Is there a different exploit that works? I couldn't find anything searching. My apologizes about the noobness, I'm always like this when I first get a new device. Many thanks in advance, sorry for any errors grammar-wise, I'm on my phone.
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I just got my M8 yesterday after running over my previous phone, and immediately started looking into s-off and root. Am I screwed with the 4.4.3 update when it comes to s-off, because it seems like firewater won't work. Is there a different exploit that works? I couldn't find anything searching. My apologizes about the noobness, I'm always like this when I first get a new device. Many thanks in advance, sorry for any errors grammar-wise, I'm on my phone.
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You need to use Sunshine. It costs $25 and not transferrable to a different phone, but it is worth it IMHO.
http://theroot.ninja/
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You need to use Sunshine. It costs $25 and not transferrable to a different phone, but it is worth it IMHO.
http://theroot.ninja/
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Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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I did, then I must have done something wrong. had a pretty constant reboot problem. Ended up buying S-Off and flashing GPE ruu.
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I did, then I must have done something wrong. had a pretty constant reboot problem. Ended up buying S-Off and flashing GPE ruu.
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Sweet, thank you very much. I'm just a bit tight after buying this phone and having a 1k mile road trip this week. Good to know I can get my root on.
I just did the same thing I love it no more sense or HTC preventing me from running the latest software
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Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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Correct, but I preferred to get S-off with sunshine then root and unlock the bootloader without having to get the HTC developer unlock. This way HTC doesn't have any record of the bootloader being unlocked.
So adb, fastboot, all that stuff works perfectly. I can push firewater to my device, it's properly set to 755:
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But when the script is run, it eventually hits the message:
********** whelp, this sucks, firewater can not work on your device **********
********** no amount of reflashing, retrying, or ruuing will fix... **********
********** DO NOT COME TO IRC ASKING FOR UPDATES OR ETAS!!!!!! **********
********** if we are able to fix this issue, it will be announced **********
********** bye bye.....sorry it didn't work out. **********
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I'm like 95% sure I've had it s-off in the past, but I realized it was s-on when I tried to update the firmware.
So what gives?
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So adb, fastboot, all that stuff works perfectly. I can push firewater to my device, it's properly set to 755:
-rwxr-xr-x root root 4522136 2014-10-30 20:56 firewater
But when the script is run, it eventually hits the message:
I'm like 95% sure I've had it s-off in the past, but I realized it was s-on when I tried to update the firmware.
So what gives?
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It's the other 5% that is correct.
Firewater doesn't work any more, HTC patched the exploit.
But....
there is the Sunshine method made by the same devs that did Firewater. It costs $25, but is guaranteed to work.
If you don't get s-off, you don't pay. But I'm certain that you will pay. It works. Period.
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It's the other 5% that is correct.
Firewater doesn't work any more, HTC patched the exploit.
But....
there is the Sunshine method made by the same devs that did Firewater. It costs $25, but is guaranteed to work.
If you don't get s-off, you don't pay. But I'm certain that you will pay. It works. Period.
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No ****? Wow, I thought unlocking, s-off, rooting, custom ROMs... all of that would basically disable any manufacturer/provider's ability to push updates and other crap to us. That's really eye opening...
Thanks for your reply, not sure I can justify $25 just to s-off for a firmware update. I need a bigger reason or half the price for that exploit (I totally support devs but that's too expensive for too little personal gain in my situation).
It will support the devs an encourage their work in the future ......
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No ****? Wow, I thought unlocking, s-off, rooting, custom ROMs... all of that would basically disable any manufacturer/provider's ability to push updates and other crap to us. That's really eye opening...
Thanks for your reply, not sure I can justify $25 just to s-off for a firmware update. I need a bigger reason or half the price for that exploit (I totally support devs but that's too expensive for too little personal gain in my situation).
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It does disable them. But it doesn't matter dude.
When you are rooted, you can update before your carrier updates to the new version.
F*ck OTAs!!! That is part of the wonderful world of the rooting community.
But for most users, s-off is unnecessary.
You only need it to flash firmware not specifically meant for your device (non matching CID and/or MID).
Also for reverting to older firmware.
If you just want to install ROMs and mods, you can do it. Just use versions meant for your firmware.
Also, almost every Sense based ROM has a link to update firmware in OP.
EDIT: I just re read your post, and I get what you mean now.
I used firewater when I got mine, but that was before the patch. They don't get to what they can't push updates to. Plus,you don't have to do s-off twice. Once and you are done. You weren't s-off before.
Also, I have a feeling that Firewater will work on a brand new M8 before connecting to the web/signing in to your G account. Unconfirmed and un-asked. But I have a feeling.
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No ****? Wow, I thought unlocking, s-off, rooting, custom ROMs... all of that would basically disable any manufacturer/provider's ability to push updates and other crap to us. That's really eye opening...
Thanks for your reply, not sure I can justify $25 just to s-off for a firmware update. I need a bigger reason or half the price for that exploit (I totally support devs but that's too expensive for too little personal gain in my situation).
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With s-off you will always be able to flash the latest and greatest.
Plus you will have the ablity to revert back if the need be.
Plus you can go SuperCID and use the updated firmware from any carrier in the world.
I have the Harmon and Kardon Sprint ADSP and audio/libs on my phone. The sound is like the music of angels.
You need S-Off for that.
They work hard on this stuff. It takes a lot of time to write those scripts.
I see no problem with them asking for the cash. $25 really isn't very much money.
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So adb, fastboot, all that stuff works perfectly. I can push firewater to my device, it's properly set to 755:
-rwxr-xr-x root root 4522136 2014-10-30 20:56 firewater
But when the script is run, it eventually hits the message:
I'm like 95% sure I've had it s-off in the past, but I realized it was s-on when I tried to update the firmware.
So what gives?
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$25 is totally justifiable. I have had to help out a couple of people who were on branded handsets and s on who didnt make backups of thier original software and no nands were in the collection thread.
basically they had a certain firmware but couldnt upgrade it due to being s on and were up sh#ts creek without apaddle as they could not find a rom that would work with thier firmware, leading to problems with no wifi etc. I was able to make these nands as I was s off.
Being s off makes it much easier to solve problems.
Not to mention the time the devs put into it and the amount of devices they brick at thier own personal costs getting these exploits to work.
if its not justifyable and u end up messing ur phone up u were best staying totally stock in the first place
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It's the other 5% that is correct.
Firewater doesn't work any more, HTC patched the exploit.
But....
there is the Sunshine method made by the same devs that did Firewater. It costs $25, but is guaranteed to work.
If you don't get s-off, you don't pay. But I'm certain that you will pay. It works. Period.
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HTC did nothing at all for Firewater to stop working. Founders of Firewater (who are the same people whom founed Sunshine) decided that it is time to charge for every device that is S-OFF. I had two devices (same version of ROM, hboot, firmware, provider, country of origin, etc.) On one (one month ago) I managed to S-OFF with Firewater, second one (two weeks ago) I had to use Sunshine.
Lads should stop even bother to use Firewater, as it won't work now days. All that talking about HTC patching is worth nothing, no need for pretending good lads.
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HTC did nothing at all for Firewater to stop working. Founders of Firewater (who are the same people whom founed Sunshine) decided that it is time to charge for every device that is S-OFF. I had two devices (same version of ROM, hboot, firmware, provider, country of origin, etc.) On one (one month ago) I managed to S-OFF with Firewater, second one (two weeks ago) I had to use Sunshine.
Lads should stop even bother to use Firewater, as it won't work now days. All that talking about HTC patching is worth nothing, no need for pretending good lads.
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Truthfully, that is what I think as well. (I do know that FW and SS are done by the same devs) I'm just repeating what has been stated on this site and really the only knowledge I have on this, but I do have assumptions.
But seriously, I can't blame them. Supply and demand and such. They put in a lot of work, they might as well get paid for it.
But.....
when you say HTC did nothing, are you sure?
It didn't stop working till the update to 4.4.3.
Do you have any links to back that up? I would be interested in reading up on it.
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Lads should stop even bother to use Firewater, as it won't work now days.
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There are still reports once in a while (however uncommon) of someone that buys a new M8 and firewater works. Probably old stock with older software on it (although that is not clear). But firewater is worth running, regardless. Its free and takes maybe 5 minutes to try firewater, no harm in doing so. So why should folks not at least try?
Yes, it should be understood that firewater probably won't work, and that there is an alternative that does work.
Stock ROM and kernel (possibly stock recovery also) has the best chance of firewater working (as well as sunshine).
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I'm like 95% sure I've had it s-off in the past, but I realized it was s-on when I tried to update the firmware.
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If you didn't run firewater (or possibly rumrunner) or sunshine before, you didn't have s-off.
S-off isn't required to flash ROMs, so this often causes confusion (you might think you had s-off, but you didn't).
sunshine
im also done s-off my M8 using sunshine.. its worth paying $25
S-OFF
After trying rumrunner and firewater unsuccessfully, I also had to pay the $25 for sunshine. A good investment IMHO.
Yes, it is a bit expensive but you won't be charged if it cannot S-OFF your device, so you are 100% sure to be S-OFF after using it if you have to pay for it.
So I have a converted GPE htc one m8 and i wanted to return it to sense but i found out its s-on. how do i fix this?
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HTC did nothing at all for Firewater to stop working. Founders of Firewater (who are the same people whom founed Sunshine) decided that it is time to charge for every device that is S-OFF. I had two devices (same version of ROM, hboot, firmware, provider, country of origin, etc.) On one (one month ago) I managed to S-OFF with Firewater, second one (two weeks ago) I had to use Sunshine.
Lads should stop even bother to use Firewater, as it won't work now days. All that talking about HTC patching is worth nothing, no need for pretending good lads.
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You're right. How can an apk S-off your device and yet the fastboot not work anymore?
HTC One M8
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There are still reports once in a while (however uncommon) of someone that buys a new M8 and firewater works. Probably old stock with older software on it (although that is not clear). But firewater is worth running, regardless. Its free and takes maybe 5 minutes to try firewater, no harm in doing so. So why should folks not at least try?
Yes, it should be understood that firewater probably won't work, and that there is an alternative that does work.
Stock ROM and kernel (possibly stock recovery also) has the best chance of firewater working (as well as sunshine).
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If you didn't run firewater (or possibly rumrunner) or sunshine before, you didn't have s-off.
S-off isn't required to flash ROMs, so this often causes confusion (you might think you had s-off, but you didn't).
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I ran firewater, I know that for a fact and it "chugged" 3 bottles. I don't know when it switched back to ON.
Also $25 isn't a lot usually, but when you only have $5 to your name until your next paycheck, $25 is fairly substantial.
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There are still reports once in a while (however uncommon) of someone that buys a new M8 and firewater works. Probably old stock with older software on it (although that is not clear). But firewater is worth running, regardless. Its free and takes maybe 5 minutes to try firewater, no harm in doing so. So why should folks not at least try?
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There was a guy on this forum earlier this week that tried and failed with Firewater and asked for help getting it to work.
Somebody posted to use Sunshine.
He replied that it was okay, that after multiple attempts Firewater ended up doing the job.
So maybe try it a few times to see if it sticks. There is nothing to lose but a little bit of time since it is free.
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There was a guy on this forum earlier this week that tried and failed with Firewater and asked for help getting it to work.
Somebody posted to use Sunshine.
He replied that it was okay, that after multiple attempts Firewater ended up doing the job.
So maybe try it a few times to see if it sticks. There is nothing to lose but a little bit of time since it is free.
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Who is this guy you speak of?
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Who is this guy you speak of?
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I've seen a few reports (maybe 4) of firewater working (on recently purchased devices) in the past several weeks, on various threads. Maybe its old stock phones with old firmware, hboot, etc. Its not clear. But I agree its worth a few tries on firewater, since it costs nothing except a little bit of time.
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Who is this guy you speak of?
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Like its of any use, firewater doesnt work on your device. You don't even listen to the developer of the exploit !
Lol
Mr Hofs said:
Like its of any use, firewater doesnt work on your device. You don't even listen to the developer of the exploit !
Lol
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You're wrong Mr Hofs, I believe firewater can work on my phone. Redpoint73 believes firewater can still work why can't you?
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You're wrong Mr Hofs, I believe firewater can work on my phone. Redpoint73 believes firewater can still work why can't you?
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Because you are trying for weeks now. Just stop it buddy. When you don't listen to the actual developer of firewater you are truly hardheaded !!!
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And seeing you in every thread with the word "s-off" in it and you never succeed or succeeded as of now. It's pure despair and won't get you anywhere. Sunshine is the way and not even a guarantee until version 3 is out !
Is firewater method still working to get s-off?
You will have to use Sunshine.
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Ion Pope said:
Is firewater method still working to get s-off?
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Not since 2014. Seriously folks, why are you trying to still use firewater?
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Not since 2014. Seriously folks, why are you trying to still use firewater?
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I still see tutorials after 2015 that use this method. Thats why im asking.
Ion Pope said:
I still see tutorials after 2015 that use this method. Thats why im asking.
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Don't trust everything you read on the internet, lol. You read bad info. Maybe somebody just quoting old guides, or asking the same question as you (does firewater still work).
Keep with reputable sources, such as XDA members with reputable ratings.