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ok so heres what has happened. I dropped and broke my Sprint Gs3 scrren + digitizer. Luckily i was on someone elses plan at the time, so i simply created a new plan in my name and got a replacement Gs3 that way. (since the plan i was on had no insurance).
The problem im having is with only 1 app in particular. Its a game called Guilty Dragon, and its only in Japanese. i didnt know until i broke the first phone, that all my character data is stored in 'data/app' folder. the game itself lets you backup you character via logging into twitter, which is supposed to make it easy to migrate your character in situations like this one. Problem is, every time i try to use that twitter function to restore my character data to my new phone, the app crashes. I've already contacted Namco Bandai in Japanese, still no response from them about this. I was hoping there would be some way to get the data/app folder backed up from the original, now broken digitizer, phone, since it is still recognized on my pc with a usb cable. I've tried APK Batch Installer tool v1.5, but it did not back up the data like it said it did, instead it put an empty data folder in the backup directory. Any help, thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated, im on a SPH-L710 with JellyBombRom v13.0.0 , i tried updating to v 15 at first but it was doing the same thing with this app so i thought maybe it was the cause, downgraded to what i had before and still the same problem. I dont think its a problem with the rom though since i even just basic rooted and tried the game before flashing roms and it still also did the same thing.
Is the broken phone rooted? If not, then there's no way you can access the broken phones /data/app directory.
You could potentially try doing an adb backup (Google it) and it may or may not back that up
It your phone is rooted you could also initiate a recovery backup onto the ext sdcard (yes, while the phone is still booted up) and then just advanced restore the data
CNexus said:
Is the broken phone rooted? If not, then there's no way you can access the broken phones /data/app directory.
You could potentially try doing an adb backup (Google it) and it may or may not back that up
It your phone is rooted you could also initiate a recovery backup onto the ext sdcard (yes, while the phone is still booted up) and then just advanced restore the data
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yes the old phone is rooted, they are both basically the same TWRP recovery with JellyBomb v13.0.0. how am i supposed to do a recovery backup (I'm guessing you mean nandroid) when TWRP needs you to touch it to do so, and my digitizer is broken?
CharmingNotSincere said:
yes the old phone is rooted, they are both basically the same TWRP recovery with JellyBomb v13.0.0. how am i supposed to do a recovery backup (I'm guessing you mean nandroid) when TWRP needs you to touch it to do so, and my digitizer is broken?
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Maybe try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818321
tkepk181 said:
Maybe try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818321
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That, or online nandroid dude
Maybe i should point out that the nandroid is not going to help. I already had a nandroid backup of the old phone, when i restored it on the new phone, data/app was not carried over or not backed up by the nandroid. the app itself works on bluestacks, using the Twitter account migration method, but it just keeps force closing on the phone.
CharmingNotSincere said:
Maybe i should point out that the nandroid is not going to help. I already had a nandroid backup of the old phone, when i restored it on the new phone, data/app was not carried over or not backed up by the nandroid. the app itself works on bluestacks, using the Twitter account migration method, but it just keeps force closing on the phone.
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Then you didn't make a proper nandroid or select the right options. A nandroid essentially copies your entire rom and put its in a folder on your sdcard. Either you did something wrong, or the nandroid didn't go right.
CNexus said:
Then you didn't make a proper nandroid or select the right options. A nandroid essentially copies your entire rom and put its in a folder on your sdcard. Either you did something wrong, or the nandroid didn't go right.
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Could it also be that the game data is linked to the Android ID (also known as ) of the phone? I know for some games, even if I restored my TiBu backups it wouldn't work because the Android ID changed. I know with TiBu Pro you can change it. I don't think that'd cause the FCs on the app... most likely shoddy programing caused that.
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Could it also be that the game data is linked to the Android ID (also known as ) of the phone? I know for some games, even if I restored my TiBu backups it wouldn't work because the Android ID changed. I know with TiBu Pro you can change it. I don't think that'd cause the FCs on the app... most likely shoddy programing caused that.
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hmm, might be worth buying TiBu pro if i can change it and try that. how would i be able to find my old id though with a broken Digitizer? Only other thing i can think of is that , there were some reports of the twitter backup not working for a few users on the version before last, i Migrated to bluestacks after my first phone broke, using v2.1 of the game, once i got my new phone there was a new apk release for v2.2 of the game, might be causing the twitter migration option to not work again. With TWRP its pretty damn fool proof to make a nandroid, just hit backup, then swipe, and system data boot and recovery are selected choices by default. could it be that The Android ID is conflicting with the nandroid also? i have like 10 nandroid backups i can try from, only tried 2 so far, maybe ill try a few more.
CharmingNotSincere said:
hmm, might be worth buying TiBu pro if i can change it and try that. how would i be able to find my old id though with a broken Digitizer? Only other thing i can think of is that , there were some reports of the twitter backup not working for a few users on the version before last, i Migrated to bluestacks after my first phone broke, using v2.1 of the game, once i got my new phone there was a new apk release for v2.2 of the game, might be causing the twitter migration option to not work again. With TWRP its pretty damn fool proof to make a nandroid, just hit backup, then swipe, and system data boot and recovery are selected choices by default. could it be that The Android ID is conflicting with the nandroid also? i have like 10 nandroid backups i can try from, only tried 2 so far, maybe ill try a few more.
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Open your backup and go to /data/data/package-name-of-game-here/ and check to see if that directory even exists and if there are files there.
So here's a question for you guys.....................
I have the HTC One M8 and am rooted and S-OFF, as well as ViperOne M8 and Titanium Backup.
Whenever I get an update from Team Venom for ViperOne, I notice it says just as it's finishing the reboot (post-install) that it's upgrading my apps. So does that mean that the backups that I have (for my apps) which are stored in Titanium Backup are no longer current? I don't think the upgrade process affects the backed up data that was done pre-install, so it seems like that data would be outdated at this point?
Please answer if you think you know.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
So here's a question for you guys.....................
I have the HTC One M8 and am rooted and S-OFF, as well as ViperOne M8 and Titanium Backup.
Whenever I get an update from Team Venom for ViperOne, I notice it says just as it's finishing the reboot (post-install) that it's upgrading my apps. So does that mean that the backups that I have (for my apps) which are stored in Titanium Backup are no longer current? I don't think the upgrade process affects the backed up data that was done pre-install, so it seems like that data would be outdated at this point?
Please answer if you think you know.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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No it doesn't, usually when developers release a new ROM update they also update all of their stock apps on their ROM to the newest versions. Because of that, when you reboot it tends to say that because it is updating the apps for it and or caching them. (this is to my knowledge of how it works, still though your backups are fine)
Hopefully you are only talking user installed apps? Is not a good idea to be restoring system apps.
correct, YOUR apps, that you backed up to TB are current as of the day you backed them up.
once you restore them, via TB, then of course, open play store, and let it check and see if there are any updates to YOUR previously backed up apps.
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No it doesn't, usually when developers release a new ROM update they also update all of their stock apps on their ROM to the newest versions. Because of that, when you reboot it tends to say that because it is updating the apps for it and or caching them. (this is to my knowledge of how it works, still though your backups are fine)
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So ViperOne is updating TB for me? If so, is that updating the TB backups as well??
Thank You,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
So ViperOne is updating TB for me? If so, is that updating the TB backups as well??
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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It is updating any apps that come with the ROM such as the HTC TV app or other HTC apps, TB is not included because it is not one of the pre-loaded apps that the developer included with the ROM. Also as stated above, the TB backups are not touched by this, they stay the same as they were when you made them soo you have to update the backups yourself if you wanted to.
Shadowz,
Ok, that's what I thought. I just needed to hear you say it in a different way to be sure. lol
So anytime there's a new update, I'm gonna need to re-backup all the apps with TB then. Seems like TB is only good if you mess something up and wanna restore the apps' data. When you're just doing an incremental update, or especially a full ROM install, then it's useless. I may just uninstall it.
Thanks Shadowz!
RockStar2005
Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
stathis95194 said:
Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
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THIS is the proper way to use TB...
I've used TB for years. After flashing clean, I just restore my user apps, data also for some and aside from a few system settings.... I'm right back how I was.
I use Nova, so restoring it's settings puts my home screens right back how they were too.
Not sure why people would want to mess with Nandroid data restores when this whole process above takes hardly any time and never brings issues. ?
stathis95194 said:
Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
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Ehh, it was late last night when I posted that, and I was cranky. lol
I don't have the PRO/donate version ($5.99?? geez), so I can only schedule up to 2 days max for automatic backups.
Thanks Stathis.
RockStar2005
this was one of the first apps I bought years ago, as it has saved my butt many times over the years..
KJ said:
I've used TB for years. After flashing clean, I just restore my user apps, data also for some and aside from a few system settings.... I'm right back how I was.
I use Nova, so restoring it's settings puts my home screens right back how they were too.
Not sure why people would want to mess with Nandroid data restores when this whole process above takes hardly any time and never brings issues. ?
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Hi KJ,
Yeah I noticed that too as I also have Nova.
So you're saying you never do any nandroid backups? Interesting. Where do you save the TB backup files? I don't like saving them on internal storage, so I just transfer them to a flash drive or OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).
Thanks,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Hi KJ,
Yeah I noticed that too as I also have Nova.
So you're saying you never do any nandroid backups? Interesting. Where do you save the TB backup files? I don't like saving them on internal storage, so I just transfer them to a flash drive or OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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I occasionally do a nandroid. Only for a full restore. And usually just before wiping and Flashing something. I don't always, cause I can flash roms or stock manually just as easy.
And I just keep my TB backups on the device.
KJ said:
I occasionally do a nandroid. Only for a full restore. And usually just before wiping and Flashing something. I don't always, cause I can flash roms or stock manually just as easy.
And I just keep my TB backups on the device.
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KJ,
I see. Ok. I'm still gonna do them, but more for emergencies than anything.
I did that but then one time recently something happened and my internal storage got wiped clean. I save a copy on my external SD card, but then I thought "what if my phone got lost?", and decided to just store it on flash or cloud. Just wish TB would let you store it on THEIR own server so you don't have to worry about doing it manually or automatically elsewhere. The options they have like Google Drive don't offer as much space. I have Google Drive but don't want to give up the space. And I think DropBox is only 1 GIG? There is that Titanium variant that stores them automatically for only $2.99, but that got bad reviews.
Thanks,
RockStar2005
I've used TB for a few years now (paid version). I use it mainly to backup my user data just in case. Right now my M8 is stock (just got it and I wait until my warrenty is up before rooting etc) so I'm not really using it now. When I do root I'll be able to take my user data from a few games I'm playing on my rooted Transformer Prime and put the data on my phone. That's really the only thing I use TB for execpt for freezing bloatware so I can unfreeze, use Voodo Root Keeper (if it works on the device) and get OTA's. User data is always my biggest priority. I can reinstall any apps from the play store. Yes, this can take some time but doing it this way, when I f-up I can pick and choose what apps I put back on and leave off apps that I installed in the past but never use anymore. To each is own I guess. One good example was about a year ago Google updated the standard music app. I hated it. It screwed up all my album art and I hated the new interface. I used TB to restore the older version and it was like it never happened.
Hopefully someone can help, I just finally upgraded my rooted LG G2 to and LG G3. When I got the G3 I rooted right away without any issues and then used Titanium Backup to restore my apps and system files. Now when I use my spiffy new ROUND smartcover the app puts up the old RECTANGULAR clock and apps from my G2.
Tried wiping the phone and starting over with a fresh factory reset and then re-rooting. All worked fine. Then tried to use Titanium to restore just my apps but not the system files. Ended up in a bootloop (didn't get past the red Verizon screen) and had to go through the factory reset, root and TB restore of my apps and system files.
Two questions:
1) how can I fix my smartcover app to work for the G3 round form factor? Current version of LGSmartCover is 4.21.28. Is this the right one or the old one from my G2?
2) what other system apps have I potentially buggered and just haven't realized yet?
Many thanks for your assistance!!!!
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Hopefully someone can help, I just finally upgraded my rooted LG G2 to and LG G3. When I got the G3 I rooted right away without any issues and then used Titanium Backup to restore my apps and system files. Now when I use my spiffy new ROUND smartcover the app puts up the old RECTANGULAR clock and apps from my G2.
Tried wiping the phone and starting over with a fresh factory reset and then re-rooting. All worked fine. Then tried to use Titanium to restore just my apps but not the system files. Ended up in a bootloop (didn't get past the red Verizon screen) and had to go through the factory reset, root and TB restore of my apps and system files.
Two questions:
1) how can I fix my smartcover app to work for the G3 round form factor? Current version of LGSmartCover is 4.21.28. Is this the right one or the old one from my G2?
2) what other system apps have I potentially buggered and just haven't realized yet?
Many thanks for your assistance!!!!
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Can you post a screenshot of this issue
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
The only way besides using the cloud backup would to have a second phone running pie. Wipe it and set it up as new then use the transfer tool to transfer everything over. Then do the same to your pixel when you need the backup.
It's alot of work and most people don't have a spare phone, but it is an option
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You could just unlock the phone and run a TWRP backup. Does not require root.
Of course, because you didn't unlock the phone when you received it, doing so now will wipe the device.
superchilpil said:
The only way besides using the cloud backup
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By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
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By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
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I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium. My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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No there is not. You may try one of the many non-root backup programs like Swift Backup that are better at restoring app settings. That is why it is always better to unlock as soon as you get the phone. Any time at all spent setting the phone up is wasted until after it is properly unlocked. Google backup has come a very long way and it will quickly restore all your (Play) user apps but has many caveats as you have found. If the app data is small, it usually is restored, but if you have game data, MMS, music, etc. It obviously will not. The combination Google cloud backup + Titanium Backup (to restore missing apps and data) is the best way I have found when starting with a completely blank slate. In advance of a complete wipe, I transfer a copy of my latest TiBu folder to the PC, along with Nova Launcher backup. After initially setting the phone up (not using data transfer), I allow Google backup to restore until fully complete 100%. When it is done, I transfer the TiBu folder back on to the PC and run it to restore only missing apps and data. Lastly I use the Nova backup file to restore all launcher settings, shortcuts and widgets. This doesn't take very long and gets me to about 95%.
kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You can try running the backup command in adb. https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Eudeferrer said:
I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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And the problem is you won't get notifications for many of the apps if they are restored using Titanium Backup
Hi!
Can anyone tell me how to backup the data partition on a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 10+ 5G without any sort of root or custom recovery that would trigger Knox flag? I am fully stock and I'm pretty sure Samsung has a tool that allows them to do a dd or full data dump of the partitions on the phone
I want to be able to back it up, fully factory reset it, and potentially restore the data partition so it is back into the pre wiped state.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!
Samsung smart switch app is one approach
dyehya said:
Hi!
Can anyone tell me how to backup the data partition on a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 10+ 5G without any sort of root or custom recovery that would trigger Knox flag? I am fully stock and I'm pretty sure Samsung has a tool that allows them to do a dd or full data dump of the partitions on the phone
I want to be able to back it up, fully factory reset it, and potentially restore the data partition so it is back into the pre wiped state.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!
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I fail to see the point?
For the purpose of backups such as Titanium Backups with app data included or just download the firmware root files ?
If the later, wouldn't it be easier to just unpack a firmware?
If the first ... without root I don't think you can at first thought. Maybe an Odin Dump? But since root is encrypted (I think as this never crossed my mind) I don't really know if it's possible or maybe Heimdal if it still exists ?
Any tips? I'm looking to do this as well. The purpose is to have an efficient backup process for dozens of apps and their configuration files residing in their appdata directory (which I can view using Solid Explorer). I spent a long time building these configurations and continue to update them so I'd like to regularly back them up once a month.
The problem is I am not rooted otherwise this would be very simple. I'm a bit wary to root when there are still OTA updates being provided.
Without root, the only options are Samsung Switch (doesn't do non-Samsung app data), Google Drive backup (doesn't do data), and Helium (doesn't work).
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Any tips? I'm looking to do this as well. The purpose is to have an efficient backup process for dozens of apps and their configuration files residing in their appdata directory (which I can view using Solid Explorer). I spent a long time building these configurations and continue to update them so I'd like to regularly back them up once a month.
The problem is I am not rooted otherwise this would be very simple. I'm a bit wary to root when there are still OTA updates being provided.
Without root, the only options are Samsung Switch (doesn't do non-Samsung app data), Google Drive backup (doesn't do data), and Helium (doesn't work).
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I deliberately use apps that allow disk backup like Poweramp, Digi Clock, ColorNote, Samsung Contacts and Package Disabler.
I use SmartSwitch to transfer home settings only so all the icons and shortcuts need to be recreated but at least the base setup is there. I use ApkExport to make installable copies of all my apps including system apps and updates then stash them on the SD card. Everything I need for a full reload is on the SD card. I then redundantly backup the SD card.
Yeah I wish I could clone the drive like I can with a PC...
There's issues rooting a Samsung and the same goes for OTA updates. I don't update my N10+'s and spend very little time doing maintenance. This one in my hand is still running on Pie, its current load is over 2yo; still snappy fast and stable. Security is not an issue. My other N10+ is running on 10, I prefer Pie. Neither will likely ever be upgraded.
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There's issues rooting a Samsung and the same goes for OTA updates. I don't update my N10+'s and spend very little time doing maintenance. This one in my hand is still running on Pie, its current load is over 2yo; still snappy fast and stable. Security is not an issue. My other N10+ is running on 10, I prefer Pie. Neither will likely ever be upgraded.
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Haha wow, and you haven't rooted either of them? If I had two, I would love to have one rooted for experimenting. What issues exactly are there with rooting? I'm guessing typical hardware issues like thumbprint for some ROMs?
And yeah it sounds like I will have to manually copy things to a synced folder... maybe I'll make a really lengthy macro that exports from my most important apps one-by-one.
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Haha wow, and you haven't rooted either of them? If I had two, I would love to have one rooted for experimenting. What issues exactly are there with rooting? I'm guessing typical hardware issues like thumbprint for some ROMs?
And yeah it sounds like I will have to manually copy things to a synced folder... maybe I'll make a really lengthy macro that exports from my most important apps one-by-one.
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The one is a backup, that's how much I like them.
They run well, security isn't an issue and they fullfill their mission; I have very little to gain by rooting except lose time and potentially a device.
There's no way to root these except maybe a granting a paid 3rd party vendor complete access to phone to unlock the bootloader, a huge security risk. No.
I don't worry about app data except for the ones I already backup especially Poweramp. Recreating that would take a long time. The other app data is best tossed, and could have been responsible for the reload. This N10+ in my hand was last reloaded over 2 years ago. Still fast and stable; that what Android is capable of.
Going over the settings and apps when reloading helps you to find things you may have overlooked. It also refreshes your memory of the how and why things work on your custom setup.