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I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
Thanks , I got root last night
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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You can run anything you want, it's not going to hurt root. Root is really only a door, or access, to settings/system files that you wouldn't normally have. Any app that you can run without root can be run safely with root. The opposite is not true. There are a number of apps that cannot be run without root. A good way to find most of the apps that require root is to go to the Play Store and just search for "root apps". There's a bunch out there that you may want to try.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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The only thing you have to be aware of to protect root is taking an OTA update. Now that you have a custom recovery and root the likely hood that you would be able to find and download an OTA is not likely, but if by chance you receive a notice that an OTA is available do not download and install it. If by chance the phone automatically downloads it and tries to install it, the OTA should fail so you'll be alright.
Be careful not to flash or ODIN a retail firmware. That is probably the biggest warning I can offer. Retail firmware, when flashed, will lock your bootloader. You can flash a modem or a kernel or a recovery, but not the entire firmware .tar md5 file.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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By the way. Since you are new to root and custom recoveries, the first thing you should do, right now, is do a backup. Power off your phone, go into TWRP recovery (hold down the volume up, home and power buttom all at the same time). Continue to hold them down until you see the TWRP splash screen, then you can let them go. From the on screen menu select backup. Choose which file you want backed up. I recommend you do boot, system, data, modem, EFS and recovery as a minimum. After the backup is complete return to the main menu and select reboot. Do it right now
wifi hotspot
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
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I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
Automatic Back Up?
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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It's diffidently a good idea to have a recent backup and the original backup of your stock ROM. The only problem with a lot of backups is keeping straight what backup is what and the amount of space they consume. Memory is cheap I know, but backups can eat up storage real fast, LOL.
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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No there is not a stock md5 for the DE and there most likely will not be. In the past Samsung has never released a firmware package for their DE phones, not that I have ever seen anyway. What your phone came with is what you got. NO OTAs and no updates of any kind in the future...that's if Samsung behaves like they have in the past. That's why making a good back up of your stock (no root) when you first get recovery is so important. And, making a backup after root of course.
Do you mind me asking how you sync..............
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Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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your TWRP folder to your Dropbox account.. Did you transfer the folder to your computer first or can you sync the folder on your phone to DropBox directly ?
I use dropsync select the folder and it just does it automatically.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
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I'm assuming that the Greenify is the one with the leaf?
Is LagFix the purchase version? Is it an app by itself, or does it require exposed?
Do you use the SD Maid Pro Version?
Does the Adaway require exposed as well?
Thanks so much in advance.
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
!!!Make a backup prior to this step!!!
Will update post when I am home with more suggestion's.
Thanks, that's somewhat helpful. At least it give me the names of programs. I have no idea what I'm doing though. Can you give me a link to a step-by-step guide, or at least explain what the different things are and what they do? Sorry for being such a noob with this.
Instructions
MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE FILES FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DEVICE (T700, T705, T800, T805, etc.)
You will need Odin (This is the software that will allow you to install the root and other files [FLASHING])
CF-AutoRoot (Will provide Root access for your device): You will be flashing this with Odin
Optional: Install custom recovery TWRP. This is also done with Odin. This will allow you to make backups and flash .zip files, including custom roms, apps, etc.
Just google for guides on rooting Samsung Galaxy Tab S. They will show you step by step on how to do the Odin flashing, PDA, settings, autoreset or not, etc.
I recommend backing up your device at this point. Reboot into recovery (instructions will be in the rooting guides), go to backup and backup everything for now. In the future when you feel comfortable enough that you can/will select to only backup what you deem necessary.
Your device is now rooted, the first boot after installing CFAutoRoot will take awhile +/-3 - 5 minutes.
Now download Titanium Backup, and you can google or search XDA for a list of "safe" things to uninstall. Just go into TitaniumBackup and look for the app you want to Freeze (This will prevent the app from running but it will NOT delete it, thus it will still take up space) or Remove.
Busybox: Will be required by certain apps.
Optional:
Link2SD App, this allows you to install/move/link your apps to the SD Card, it essentially frees up your internal memory of the device and tricks the device into installing apps and their data files onto your second partition of your External SD Card (Google or Search XDA for guides on Link2SD). This will allow you to install a lot more apps than you normally would be able to. (Example: Vice City, San Andreas, Plants vs Zombies, etc. I mention these because of their large data size). Not all apps will work when linked, just trial and error. I can't seem to get Word, Excel, Powerpoint linked to my SD Card without at least one of the failing, same with Facebook. You will have to test each app and see what files you can link/bind and which you can't.
Adblock Plus: Self explanatory
Xposed: A bunch of customization options for your device
ES File Explorer Pro: The best file management/directory app IMO
Greenify: Battery saver
Aptoide: Secondary App Store
Hancom Apps: I feel these work better on occasion then the Microsoft Office apps (Example large excel files with multiple formulas and filters)
NovaLauncher: Custom launcher, a lot more customizations then TouchWiz will provide you. (Your home screen)
Tasker: Limitless possibilities with this app (Search google/XDA for info)
TWRP Manager: TWRP Recovery app.
VLC: Video player
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
If you are happy with your device up to this point, I would create another backup after you are done with the initial set up and have installed the apps of your choosing. Save a copy on the device, PC, NAS, etc. just in case you lose one of your copies. Some TWRP versions do not allow you to backup directly to the external SD Card, you may have to backup into the Internal and then transfer the information over to the external SD Card.
Good Luck.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
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Is this the link I should be using? I'll know for sure what it's model number is once I receive the tablet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
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Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
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This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
Thanks again for any help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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This link works, although there are newer versions of TWRP, you can install these after however, no big deal.
Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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The previous link contains TWRP, read above. The normal CF Autoroot comes with CWM Recovery I believe (A custom recovery similar to TWRP). You can use the link you posted. Chagallwifi is the "nickname" of the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 WiFi, it is one way to search for a device, the other being the model number T800, for instance or the long commercial name.
This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
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You get the app from the playstore, correct. I am not sure about GApps, I want to say it isn't necessary unless you will be installing a custom rom (you can double check this on the rooting guides, if it asks for GApps, then flash the GApps)
The system back up is done via TWRP or CWM, boot into recovery and choose backup.
Titanium Backup allows you to back up the app and its data file. So you don't lose the progress of your games. Also backs up email, WiFi passwords, etc.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
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Most of the errors cause soft bricks, you can recover from these. I would recommend you backup after rooting, in case you mess something up toying with Titanium, Link2SD, SuperSU, etc. You can always use SamMobile and find a Stock Rom to flash back onto the device, again via Odin. Not sure if the KnoxTrip flag will still show up, you can trying Googling how to root without tripping Knox, I know there are methods, however I have never used them. I have soft bricked my device before, I deleted everything with TWRP, I wanted to factory reset, and I selected erase System..... scary times.
Stock Rom: SamFirm (Outdated) or Updato
Thanks for all your help and advice. I just got my tablet today. Still kinda playing around with it. I probably won't do anything for a couple of days. At least till my next day off from work (Thursday) so I can concentrate on what I'm doing. I was really scared when I first turned it on, everything was in Korean. I had to find a YouTube video showing how to go through the initial setup to change the language. All good now. Once I got it fully running, it downloaded a 350mb update and rebooted. I'm now running Lolipop 5.0.2. Is that going to cause any issues? Also, I can now confirm that it is model SM-T800.
Thanks again!
ChewVodka, once your past the learning curve rooting etc. can be done in your sleep. After some research, I rooted a 10.1 tab 4 a while back with no problem. Definitely better o have more control over the device, I think. Just got a new 10.5 also, and am looking around for the best way to administer the Android system - the Galaxy Tab S for Dummies book seems to me to be actually a good place to start. I'll check back here with any choice info I find on the 10.5.
Also, I have this case for my 10.1, and this is the best under $20 case you can get for the 10.5 - so cheap I bought two of them! Type in search: Xtra-Funky Exclusive Samsung Galaxy Tab S, 10.5 -- the black and navy blue are cool -- the others kinda garish.
Easy Way, allow installation of 3rd party apps in settings download this for android https://kingroot.net/ run it select install anyway when you get the pop up, and root device , open Playstore download flashify for root users, run it allow it access , click recovery image then download twrp choose the 3.0.2-0 release and install to your tab and reboot into recovery, at this point you can use it to make a backup of your current rom or install a custom rom (following the directions on the page for the rom that you choose), this is easier method if you aren't familiar with odin and don't have the drivers and all set up on pc. You can also change kingroot over to super user in a few different ways can download and use supersume from play store and run it or, just flash the newest superuser in twrp and remove whats leftover from kingroot manually after reboot. If you intend on doing a custom rom i suggest choosing first and having all files available before you start. However if you intend on using odin You might want to install this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 so you have full communication with the device in case anything does go wrong there will be other options. This is of course if you are not already setup with this already. Also I would like to note there are a few roms here based on the stock firmware if you like it just look through the forum see what you like, and read everything.
What are the benefits to a custom ROM? I assume you're talking about things like Cyanogenmod. There are some people in another forum I visit that like it, but I don't know what it is or why I would want it. Does it allow installing pirated software or something? It's probably not allowed to be discussed here, and I'm not saying I would purposely do something like that (not that I wouldn't if possible lol). It all comes down to the fact that I'm completely new to the tablet world, other than the fact that it's a bigger and better Kindle Fire that I can get more usage out of by not being limited to Amazon's ROM and store for apps. The biggest things I'm looking to do is get rid of bloatware that came preinstalled (of which a lot was added with the update) and the ability to make backups of the entire system should something screw up.
It sounds like "rooting" is essentially giving you the administrative control access to the system (like in Windows) instead of being limited to a generic "user". That allows you to install more system accessible programs, where a generic user would get a UAC prompt and then be told and Administrator needs to preform that action. As for "recovery", it sounds like that is sort of like the CMOS/BIOS of a PC. It's the first "program" that runs when you boot up (even requiring a specific keypress to enter). This allows you to access the system before the system boots, to get you backup/restore functions, and the ability to install new OS's. It also sounds like the built in version from Samsung is what is getting changed (like updating the BIOS of the PC) to allow more functionality (like backups, etc). The only thing you don't have access to is stuff like disk drives, but things like RAM and CPU can be adjusted once you have ROOT.
The more I learn about it, the more I'm eager to do it. I really don't like feeling confined to a predetermined set of available things to do, and I really don't like having somebody decide to install software I'll never use on my system that just takes up space. I especially hate that said programs can't even be uninstalled. Looks like this is what I'm gonna have to do!
Decided not to wait and rooted it tonight. I have the freedom now to play, though I'm not sure where to start. Currently I have the CF-Autoroot thing done, and it installed SuperSU. Then I did the TWRP recovery, and made a backup of all the partitions. I was kinda hoping I could backup remotely (like on the computer) rather than stored on the same device. I have a microSD card ordered and on the way, so my next task will be to back up to that. There is a tool I use on my Kindle Fire called ES File Explorer. I'll see if I can get that on this. Then I can find the backup and transfer it over the wifi.
I'll check out your other recommended apps as I have time. Thanks again!
Now I'm having a bunch of trouble. I was able to get the Chainfire root to go through, and verified it with a Root Checker. I then installed the TWRP recovery so I could make a backup. I even have a few backups. Then I went and installed an app called TWRP Manager, that was supposed to enable me the option of making backups LIVE (without having to boot into TWRP). It wasn't working, so I went to do a "Classic Backup" which reboots into TWRP and starts the backup then reboots normally. Well, TWRP never booted. I just had a black screen. Nothing seemed to work. I couldn't power on with the power button, and I couldn't manually boot into TWRP. The only option that did anything was ODIN (Download) Mode. I'm really freaking out at this point. I found a way to connect to XDA's IRC Channel and talked with some really nice guys and was told to try re-flashing the stock. I did that, and it worked. But now I'm stuck again. Basically starting from scratch with a stock system, I went through to install the Chainfire root again. It seemed to work ok, and SuperSU showed up. Ran the Root Verifier and it confirmed it was successful. I then went to flash TWRP. ODIN says it passed, but I still can't boot into it. Here's the kicker.. even if it appears that it's not working, if I do the keypresses on my tablet correctly and wait like 2-3 minutes then try again, TWRP will actually be up but the screen locked. WTF??
So did I something wrong? I'm really lost. Like I told the guys in the chatroom, I'm going on blind faith here, not really knowing what I'm doing. I figured once I have stock installed, I'm basically back to square one and can go through the whole process again. Doesn't seem to be working. I have to go to work now but hopefully somebody has something of a suggestion I can try by the time I get home.
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4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
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Before I try this myself and bootloop, would I be safe flashing the 4way multiwindow on the new stock 6.0.1 ROM? (SM-T805)
hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks
haxxo said:
hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks
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If your bootloader is not unlocked then absolutely. Unlocking it will wipe the device.
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Yes - unlocking bootloader will wipe everything, so make sure photos/videos/music/sms/mms is backed up in cloud or on PC.
Since you're gonna lose everything anyway, why not try factory reset (but backup the things I mention above first Then see how your phone acts when adding back the 3rd party apps.
Have you taken all OTA's? 8.1 is out for Nexus 5X.
I'm on it now and not rooted. Have rooted up to now, but so far I am impressed with stock non-rooted performance.
haxxo said:
hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks
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If you can live without root I think you should try first the wiping/factory reset. Performance is pretty good with 8.1 stock for me.One restart everyday is recommended also.
the 8.1 OTA update worked great for 24 hours, and after that it became incredibly slow again. for some crazy ass reason, every single app is running all the time, even if i limit background process and even disable apps with background check. when there is a heavy computing load, random apps that are rarely ever used start crashing (not responding error). and since you cant stop apps from running anymore without root, i think a root is required or a new phone as its unusable 75% of the time.
if i use google backup, and backup my sms through a 3rd app, will i be able to restore everything on my phone after root? if not, what will go missing so i can back it up separately.
if google backup includes all apps/app data, contacts, pictures/videos and call history, and i backed up my sms with a 3rd party app. seems like everything should get restored after root.
I was watching catlog *:W and *:E and saw that OOM killer was failing and a bunch of errors, even with the Jan 5 2018 / 8.1.0 r7 update. The phone is ridiculously slow at starting chrome, loading webpages, downloading attachments from email, updating apps from the play store.
I deleted the dalvik-cache and cache and started every app manually and rebooted a bunch of times, but the phone seems to degrade into this pathetically slow mode. It seems as if the flash is 10-100x slower than it should be.
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[...]It seems as if the flash is 10-100x slower than it should be.
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This is what I'm too afraid off. Maybe Google has done something to slow the device down like Apple did recently?
How are you guys seeing 8.1 already? I'm on T-Mobile. TIA.
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How are you guys seeing 8.1 already? I'm on T-Mobile. TIA.
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Updates arrive at different intervals for Nexus devices. If you do not want to wait, adb sideload the full OTA image:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
The only way besides using the cloud backup would to have a second phone running pie. Wipe it and set it up as new then use the transfer tool to transfer everything over. Then do the same to your pixel when you need the backup.
It's alot of work and most people don't have a spare phone, but it is an option
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You could just unlock the phone and run a TWRP backup. Does not require root.
Of course, because you didn't unlock the phone when you received it, doing so now will wipe the device.
superchilpil said:
The only way besides using the cloud backup
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By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
kmandel said:
By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
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I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium. My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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No there is not. You may try one of the many non-root backup programs like Swift Backup that are better at restoring app settings. That is why it is always better to unlock as soon as you get the phone. Any time at all spent setting the phone up is wasted until after it is properly unlocked. Google backup has come a very long way and it will quickly restore all your (Play) user apps but has many caveats as you have found. If the app data is small, it usually is restored, but if you have game data, MMS, music, etc. It obviously will not. The combination Google cloud backup + Titanium Backup (to restore missing apps and data) is the best way I have found when starting with a completely blank slate. In advance of a complete wipe, I transfer a copy of my latest TiBu folder to the PC, along with Nova Launcher backup. After initially setting the phone up (not using data transfer), I allow Google backup to restore until fully complete 100%. When it is done, I transfer the TiBu folder back on to the PC and run it to restore only missing apps and data. Lastly I use the Nova backup file to restore all launcher settings, shortcuts and widgets. This doesn't take very long and gets me to about 95%.
kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You can try running the backup command in adb. https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Eudeferrer said:
I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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And the problem is you won't get notifications for many of the apps if they are restored using Titanium Backup
Hi, I don't know if it's the right place to ask for help, but I'll still try.
A couple of days ago while travelling I updated my OnePlus 9 Pro with the latest update of Android 12 not knowing that update was apparently quite buggy as I found out later. Previously all updates have always run smoothly on my phones, so I wasn't really cautious about it. As a result after update phone didn't work anymore, it started always to vibrate after giving sim card PIN kinda trying to start (similar to the sound of whirring hard drive), but it couldn't go beyond the home screen's wallpaper. As I needed my phone, I had to choose "Format user data" under Wipe data from the boot menu as there weren't any other options under Wipe. I got a working phone after that, but I lost all my data.
So the question is: is there a way to restore videos and photos from the gallery (my photos weren't synchronizing to Google Photos) after this formatting? And more precisely, eg. by using DroidKit Data recovery tool I can perform only quick recovery unrooted, which doesn't find any files from the gallery. There is an option to perform a deep recovery, but for that I need to root my phone. Rooting apparently requires bootloader unlocking, which most likely wipes all phone data anyway without possibility to restore.
And more questions: would a deep recovery even find those gallery files, if the phone would be rooted? If bootloader unlocking wipes all data completely, so it wouldn't be possible to restore any data after that for sure? Is there an option to perform a deep scan without a phone being rooted? Is there an option to root without bootloader unlocking? There are some apps, which don't really do automatic rooting, and they aren't trustworthy, despite they say that they can root phones in seconds.
I definitely have learned from this recent experience, and I will do better in the future.
I think most likely it's not possible to restore my photos and videos I lost in this case, but I just had to ask to make sure, there are no more tricks I can use... Any thoughts? Thanks!
I would think there would be an app in the app store that would recover your photos and videos without root since they are to located in the root drive. It may take a few tries to find the right app. Good luck. That is why I routinely backup everything on my internal storage to the PC just for this reason.
Your storage is encrypted. There is no way to recover the files as the factory reset generated new keys when wiping the storage. Sorry for the bad news. Make sure to make backups before taking updates in the future is all anyone can suggest.
EtherealRemnant said:
Your storage is encrypted. There is no way to recover the files as the factory reset generated new keys when wiping the storage. Sorry for the bad news. Make sure to make backups before taking updates in the future is all anyone can suggest.
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Thank you for the reply! I just wonder, why then everywhere on so many websites they say, it's possible to recover data after factory reset? But as I tried it seems impossible as you say.
Just one example: https://www.hardreset.info/devices/...possible-to-recover-data-after-factory-reset/.
73ch61rl said:
Thank you for the reply! I just wonder, why then everywhere on so many websites they say, it's possible to recover data after factory reset? But as I tried it seems impossible as you say.
Just one example: https://www.hardreset.info/devices/...possible-to-recover-data-after-factory-reset/.
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Then go after it......
The 8 Best Free Android Data Recovery Software [2023]
Is there any free Android data recovery software? Yes, 100%. The top 8 free Android data recovery software can help you recover deleted files from Android mobile phone carrying a Micro SD card.
recoverit.wondershare.com
73ch61rl said:
Thank you for the reply! I just wonder, why then everywhere on so many websites they say, it's possible to recover data after factory reset? But as I tried it seems impossible as you say.
Just one example: https://www.hardreset.info/devices/...possible-to-recover-data-after-factory-reset/.
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I mean a lot of those places just copy and paste info to drive clicks. Android didn't always encrypt userdata.
TheGhost1951 said:
Then go after it......
The 8 Best Free Android Data Recovery Software [2023]
Is there any free Android data recovery software? Yes, 100%. The top 8 free Android data recovery software can help you recover deleted files from Android mobile phone carrying a Micro SD card.
recoverit.wondershare.com
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I've tried many of those before, but they don't see gallery photos nor videos at all after phone factory reset, though they claim they can do that. What these apps can see and recover in my experience are call history, documents, audio files, sms (all of these things were recovered anyway from the phone backup), photos and videos from Whatsapp (which I don't need as its' chats were backed up before that update). Some of them offer a deep recovery (don't know what a deep scan would find in the end), which requires phone to be rooted, and that requires bootloader unlocking, which will wipe storage for good anyway, so basically all those apps are useless.
73ch61rl said:
I've tried many of those before, but they don't see gallery photos nor videos at all after phone factory reset, though they claim they can do that. What these apps can see and recover in my experience are call history, documents, audio files, sms (all of these things were recovered anyway from the phone backup), photos and videos from Whatsapp (which I don't need as its' chats were backed up before that update). Some of them offer a deep recovery (don't know what a deep scan would find in the end), which requires phone to be rooted, and that requires bootloader unlocking, which will wipe storage for good anyway, so basically all those apps are useless.
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Then I am out of answers, sorry!
TheGhost1951 said:
Then I am out of answers, sorry!
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Thank you for trying to help anyway!