Nexus 5x is slow now, root without data loss? - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks

haxxo said:
hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks
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If your bootloader is not unlocked then absolutely. Unlocking it will wipe the device.
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Yes - unlocking bootloader will wipe everything, so make sure photos/videos/music/sms/mms is backed up in cloud or on PC.
Since you're gonna lose everything anyway, why not try factory reset (but backup the things I mention above first Then see how your phone acts when adding back the 3rd party apps.
Have you taken all OTA's? 8.1 is out for Nexus 5X.
I'm on it now and not rooted. Have rooted up to now, but so far I am impressed with stock non-rooted performance.

haxxo said:
hi guys,
my nexus 5x is getting a bit old and is very very slow a lot of the time. i see 2 options:
1: factory reset and hope it speeds up
2: root, and install a light weight ROM ( crDroid looks good) and also use root features like disable auto start on apps.
i feel like the 2nd option would be best, i think a major issues with my phone is that i have a lot of apps that i use maybe once a week, but its impossible to disable auto-start apps without root based on my knowledge (Ive tried several apps, it doesn't work). and i dont want to install/reinstall a dozen apps each month.
i have google backup enabled, and i also backed up my SMS data with a 3rd party app (apparently google doesn't back up SMS). if i were to unlock bootloader and flash a new ROM, would i loose any data thats currently on my phone (ie, data/apps that wont come back after restoring backup)?
Thanks
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If you can live without root I think you should try first the wiping/factory reset. Performance is pretty good with 8.1 stock for me.One restart everyday is recommended also.

the 8.1 OTA update worked great for 24 hours, and after that it became incredibly slow again. for some crazy ass reason, every single app is running all the time, even if i limit background process and even disable apps with background check. when there is a heavy computing load, random apps that are rarely ever used start crashing (not responding error). and since you cant stop apps from running anymore without root, i think a root is required or a new phone as its unusable 75% of the time.
if i use google backup, and backup my sms through a 3rd app, will i be able to restore everything on my phone after root? if not, what will go missing so i can back it up separately.
if google backup includes all apps/app data, contacts, pictures/videos and call history, and i backed up my sms with a 3rd party app. seems like everything should get restored after root.

I was watching catlog *:W and *:E and saw that OOM killer was failing and a bunch of errors, even with the Jan 5 2018 / 8.1.0 r7 update. The phone is ridiculously slow at starting chrome, loading webpages, downloading attachments from email, updating apps from the play store.
I deleted the dalvik-cache and cache and started every app manually and rebooted a bunch of times, but the phone seems to degrade into this pathetically slow mode. It seems as if the flash is 10-100x slower than it should be.

mickrussom said:
[...]It seems as if the flash is 10-100x slower than it should be.
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This is what I'm too afraid off. Maybe Google has done something to slow the device down like Apple did recently?

How are you guys seeing 8.1 already? I'm on T-Mobile. TIA.

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How are you guys seeing 8.1 already? I'm on T-Mobile. TIA.
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Updates arrive at different intervals for Nexus devices. If you do not want to wait, adb sideload the full OTA image:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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[Q] trouble with my S2

So for the past 2 months i have been having issues with my S2. I been wanting to do a factory reset on the phone but I am a little reluctant. Here is what is going on.
My phone has been pretty much freezing every time it can, and i mean freezing for a good amount of time.
It still under Android 4.0.3, not yet updated to latest because I am a bit scare. I have not followed up with anything lately. And I have been trying to catch up but for some reason today, everything seems to be for me like I am reading Chinese.
When I first and only time rooted my phone was last year and it was for the sole purpose of installing S Voice, a feature that i never even use. At the same time, to do so, i had to delete a few apps. Now, i checked Titanium backup and they showed backed up.
So here is what i want to do. My system app, shows 0MB free. I will like to uninstall completely Svoice, update my phone to the lates and start fresh. Then, reroot, so i can only freeze apps, not uninstall them.
Will this be possible with missing system apps? will i run the risk or bricking or what steps should i take first?
For clockwork, i think i still am under 5.0.2.7 touch, that i have not even update. Thats how far back i am. Looking forward to get back in the game. Will continue to do some more search and reading.
As for you wanting to go back to stock, i would reflash 4.0.3 stock (that would give you those missing system apps and less of a risk for bricking ) then use titanium to recover your other apps that is missing.. As far for root, you can do that after the reflash or after you install apps from titanium, your choice.
This is what i did when i had some problems and works for me
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Galaxy Nexus suddenly slow

Hi guys, I need some help with my phone.
More or less one month ago it suddently started to slow down in many ways: the most of the apps take from 2 to 10 seconds to open when I tap on their icon, sometimes apps and videos lag, pretty often apps force crash.
I'm on Android 4.3 stock, stock kernel, never flashed anything different from stock ROMs, I just rooted it before but now it's not even rooted.
I don't even have many apps installed.
I'd like to know if there's something I can do to have back the fast phone I had 'til some months ago; I'd prefer not to do a full wipe (at least if there something else I can do).
Thanks
First Root your phone then install LagFix and trim your memory.
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seriousia said:
First Root your phone then install LagFix and trim your memory.
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is there a way to root it without wiping the phone?
Ehm...guys?
jerley said:
is there a way to root it without wiping the phone?
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Yes.
Gingerbread1611 said:
Yes.
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http://www.androidrootz.com/2012/08/how-to-root-galaxy-nexus-jelly-bean-ice.html
This will delete EVERYTHING on your phone!
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jerley said:
http://www.androidrootz.com/2012/08/how-to-root-galaxy-nexus-jelly-bean-ice.html
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Just backup everything you've got and root + install a custom ROM, possible performance/battery life gains are totally worth it.
latenightchameleon said:
Just backup everything you've got and root + install a custom ROM, possible performance/battery life gains are totally worth it.
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Can you suggest me any ROM in particular?
I'm not interest in having the newest OS with the coolest functions, but I want it to be the most stable possible with no FCs at all (obviously if it is possible to have this with some new cool features I'll be happier ).
Thanks
jerley said:
Can you suggest me any ROM in particular?
I'm not interest in having the newest OS with the coolest functions, but I want it to be the most stable possible with no FCs at all (obviously if it is possible to have this with some new cool features I'll be happier ).
Thanks
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Sure. I can recommend going with SlimKat. Its really fast, snappy, and the battery life is decent. Look no further than here
Well, thank you very much, I'll try it ASAP.
And regerding the backup how can I do it?
1) backup sms, contacts, call logs, etc by using super backup from play store. apps can be backed up with titanium backup.
2) copy everything from internal storage to pc
3) Unlock + root, install the rom and gapps
4) copy contents back
5) restore sms, contacts, etc with super backup. restore apps with titanium backup. later I also recommend installing greenify to prevent battery drain
You can shoot me a msg or post here if anything goes wrong or if you need any more help/explanations:good:
latenightchameleon said:
1) backup sms, contacts, call logs, etc by using super backup from play store. apps can be backed up with titanium backup.
2) copy everything from internal storage to pc
3) Unlock + root, install the rom and gapps
4) copy contents back
5) restore sms, contacts, etc with super backup. restore apps with titanium backup. later I also recommend installing greenify to prevent battery drain
You can shoot me a msg or post here if anything goes wrong or if you need any more help/explanations:good:
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Thank you very very very much, you've been super kind.
I'll try later on today and will let you know how it went
I have to thank you all again, SlimKat gave new life to my GNex, it's just amazing!
I was even thinking of buying a new phone, but now i'll keep this one 'till it will stop working
Aaargh, talked too soon.
It's not a big problem but it's pretty annoying: after I restored the SMS with Super Backup I got the notification on the Messages app that I have 163 new SMS (the number of restored SMS) and there's no way I can remove the notification.
I also disabled the app since I use Hangout but the notification is still there.
It only disappeared when I cleared data from settings, but if I open Messages the notification appear again, and also if (without opening the app) I restart the phone.
Of course reading the SMS won't change anything
What should I do?

All SMS apps crashing

Hello! Yesterday I decided to update my OP3 to the latest version, and as usual, I rooted it and restored with titanium backup. Everything went as usual, but today I decided to send a SMS and the stock app kept crashing, so I tried to use messenger (from Facebook) it crashed when I enabled SMS.
Later, I searched about this and found that i needed to clean data and cache, but when I checked on the application section I had none, the cache and data were empty.
I've already tried to use 3rd party apps to send messages, but all crashed the same way as the stock.
How can I fix this? I don't want to factory reset again my phone, is a pain to restore the data.
Desparacebido said:
Hello! Yesterday I decided to update my OP3 to the latest version, and as usual, I rooted it and restored with titanium backup. Everything went as usual, but today I decided to send a SMS and the stock app kept crashing, so I tried to use messenger (from Facebook) it crashed when I enabled SMS.
Later, I searched about this and found that i needed to clean data and cache, but when I checked on the application section I had none, the cache and data were empty.
I've already tried to use 3rd party apps to send messages, but all crashed the same way as the stock.
How can I fix this? I don't want to factory reset again my phone, is a pain to restore the data.
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Thats been an issue with the OTA updates. Seems not to work right (never advised anyone to do ota as a single millisecond of data loss causes issues)
You may have to end up Factory resetting. Also TIBU messes up google messaging service so you will end up with apps not giving notifications properly.
zelendel said:
Thats been an issue with the OTA updates. Seems not to work right (never advised anyone to do ota as a single millisecond of data loss causes issues)
You may have to end up Factory resetting. Also TIBU messes up google messaging service so you will end up with apps not giving notifications properly.
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So, how can i backup my data and then restore it without messing with the google messaging service?
Desparacebido said:
So, how can i backup my data and then restore it without messing with the google messaging service?
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People have said that reinstalling the apps without wiping the data works. I just set everything up again. But then I like most developers use less then 10 apps on our devices other then the stock apps.
zelendel said:
People have said that reinstalling the apps without wiping the data works. I just set everything up again. But then I like most developers use less then 10 apps on our devices other then the stock apps.
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Ok. I'll try a factory reset and reinstaliing the apps without TiBu. I'll get back to you when I finish this.
It worked, thanks!
Desparacebido said:
It worked, thanks!
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You could have pressed the thanks button also.

Complete Backup without Root?

Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
The only way besides using the cloud backup would to have a second phone running pie. Wipe it and set it up as new then use the transfer tool to transfer everything over. Then do the same to your pixel when you need the backup.
It's alot of work and most people don't have a spare phone, but it is an option
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You could just unlock the phone and run a TWRP backup. Does not require root.
Of course, because you didn't unlock the phone when you received it, doing so now will wipe the device.
superchilpil said:
The only way besides using the cloud backup
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By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
kmandel said:
By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
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I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium. My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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No there is not. You may try one of the many non-root backup programs like Swift Backup that are better at restoring app settings. That is why it is always better to unlock as soon as you get the phone. Any time at all spent setting the phone up is wasted until after it is properly unlocked. Google backup has come a very long way and it will quickly restore all your (Play) user apps but has many caveats as you have found. If the app data is small, it usually is restored, but if you have game data, MMS, music, etc. It obviously will not. The combination Google cloud backup + Titanium Backup (to restore missing apps and data) is the best way I have found when starting with a completely blank slate. In advance of a complete wipe, I transfer a copy of my latest TiBu folder to the PC, along with Nova Launcher backup. After initially setting the phone up (not using data transfer), I allow Google backup to restore until fully complete 100%. When it is done, I transfer the TiBu folder back on to the PC and run it to restore only missing apps and data. Lastly I use the Nova backup file to restore all launcher settings, shortcuts and widgets. This doesn't take very long and gets me to about 95%.
kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You can try running the backup command in adb. https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Eudeferrer said:
I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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And the problem is you won't get notifications for many of the apps if they are restored using Titanium Backup

How to Backup Data Partition Without Root?

Hi!
Can anyone tell me how to backup the data partition on a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 10+ 5G without any sort of root or custom recovery that would trigger Knox flag? I am fully stock and I'm pretty sure Samsung has a tool that allows them to do a dd or full data dump of the partitions on the phone
I want to be able to back it up, fully factory reset it, and potentially restore the data partition so it is back into the pre wiped state.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!
Samsung smart switch app is one approach
dyehya said:
Hi!
Can anyone tell me how to backup the data partition on a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 10+ 5G without any sort of root or custom recovery that would trigger Knox flag? I am fully stock and I'm pretty sure Samsung has a tool that allows them to do a dd or full data dump of the partitions on the phone
I want to be able to back it up, fully factory reset it, and potentially restore the data partition so it is back into the pre wiped state.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!
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I fail to see the point?
For the purpose of backups such as Titanium Backups with app data included or just download the firmware root files ?
If the later, wouldn't it be easier to just unpack a firmware?
If the first ... without root I don't think you can at first thought. Maybe an Odin Dump? But since root is encrypted (I think as this never crossed my mind) I don't really know if it's possible or maybe Heimdal if it still exists ?
Any tips? I'm looking to do this as well. The purpose is to have an efficient backup process for dozens of apps and their configuration files residing in their appdata directory (which I can view using Solid Explorer). I spent a long time building these configurations and continue to update them so I'd like to regularly back them up once a month.
The problem is I am not rooted otherwise this would be very simple. I'm a bit wary to root when there are still OTA updates being provided.
Without root, the only options are Samsung Switch (doesn't do non-Samsung app data), Google Drive backup (doesn't do data), and Helium (doesn't work).
megamorphg said:
Any tips? I'm looking to do this as well. The purpose is to have an efficient backup process for dozens of apps and their configuration files residing in their appdata directory (which I can view using Solid Explorer). I spent a long time building these configurations and continue to update them so I'd like to regularly back them up once a month.
The problem is I am not rooted otherwise this would be very simple. I'm a bit wary to root when there are still OTA updates being provided.
Without root, the only options are Samsung Switch (doesn't do non-Samsung app data), Google Drive backup (doesn't do data), and Helium (doesn't work).
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I deliberately use apps that allow disk backup like Poweramp, Digi Clock, ColorNote, Samsung Contacts and Package Disabler.
I use SmartSwitch to transfer home settings only so all the icons and shortcuts need to be recreated but at least the base setup is there. I use ApkExport to make installable copies of all my apps including system apps and updates then stash them on the SD card. Everything I need for a full reload is on the SD card. I then redundantly backup the SD card.
Yeah I wish I could clone the drive like I can with a PC...
There's issues rooting a Samsung and the same goes for OTA updates. I don't update my N10+'s and spend very little time doing maintenance. This one in my hand is still running on Pie, its current load is over 2yo; still snappy fast and stable. Security is not an issue. My other N10+ is running on 10, I prefer Pie. Neither will likely ever be upgraded.
blackhawk said:
There's issues rooting a Samsung and the same goes for OTA updates. I don't update my N10+'s and spend very little time doing maintenance. This one in my hand is still running on Pie, its current load is over 2yo; still snappy fast and stable. Security is not an issue. My other N10+ is running on 10, I prefer Pie. Neither will likely ever be upgraded.
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Haha wow, and you haven't rooted either of them? If I had two, I would love to have one rooted for experimenting. What issues exactly are there with rooting? I'm guessing typical hardware issues like thumbprint for some ROMs?
And yeah it sounds like I will have to manually copy things to a synced folder... maybe I'll make a really lengthy macro that exports from my most important apps one-by-one.
megamorphg said:
Haha wow, and you haven't rooted either of them? If I had two, I would love to have one rooted for experimenting. What issues exactly are there with rooting? I'm guessing typical hardware issues like thumbprint for some ROMs?
And yeah it sounds like I will have to manually copy things to a synced folder... maybe I'll make a really lengthy macro that exports from my most important apps one-by-one.
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The one is a backup, that's how much I like them.
They run well, security isn't an issue and they fullfill their mission; I have very little to gain by rooting except lose time and potentially a device.
There's no way to root these except maybe a granting a paid 3rd party vendor complete access to phone to unlock the bootloader, a huge security risk. No.
I don't worry about app data except for the ones I already backup especially Poweramp. Recreating that would take a long time. The other app data is best tossed, and could have been responsible for the reload. This N10+ in my hand was last reloaded over 2 years ago. Still fast and stable; that what Android is capable of.
Going over the settings and apps when reloading helps you to find things you may have overlooked. It also refreshes your memory of the how and why things work on your custom setup.

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